Help! My Daughter Is Naked On The Internet! | KARAMO

A few months ago, I was going through my preteen's phone, and in her search history, I came across a video of her 20-year-old sister having sex with her boyfriend on a porn site. I was actually at a friend's house, and we were— I was going through my kid's phone and she was going through her kid's phone.

And when I found that, I told her I just got up and I just told her I couldn't even stay there anymore. I said, I gotta go. And I said, I'm sorry. She was like, no, you need to breathe. And I was like, I couldn't, I couldn't do it. It was just, it, it broke me. It broke my soul. It broke my heart. And it scared me. What she's losing is so much more than what she's temporarily gaining.

So I've never really been a real big fan of her boyfriend. All I could think of is that it's his idea, that he did it, that he's sitting here pimping out my daughter.

It's not gonna help her get into her modeling career. It's just gonna do nothing but lead her to a path of self-destruction, and this is not what we had planned for her.

I'm a grown adult and I can do what I want to do, and it's not my fault that she saw that. Yes, I'm doing this and I'm the one, but I'm making money. I'm making $20,000 a month.

So when did you decide to start doing online sex work?

It was about a year ago when I actually started getting into it. It's just grown and grown from something to nothing. I put a lot of work and effort into what I'm doing. Like, it's business. It's not just me looking for attention or trying to get a different career or let it lead me into a different lifestyle. It's just me doing what works. And I'm young, I'm hot, like, so why shouldn't I?

But your mother also said in that video that you feel like it's going to lead you to a different path.

Yes, I would like it to lead me into something else, but I think it would stay around forever. It's what's working and it's what's fun.

And you're in college right now.

Yes, I'm a college student. This is my time to be selfish and live my life and have fun. So why can't I?

Okay, okay, that makes sense to me. How do you feel about what your mom had to say about your boyfriend?

It's not her right to dictate who I see and what I do. It's not even his fault that I'm going into this life. Like, I'm the one who proposed it. I started this. I brought the idea to him.

How's your relationship with Cullen?

We've been on the rocks for basically since we started. I was, at the beginning of our relationship, I was a habitual cheater and I slept with his best friend. I slept with so many different guys and I just feel bad, but I've changed from that person.

Why were you cheating on him?

I felt insecure in myself mostly. I was an ugly duckling in high school and I didn't know where my priorities were at. I didn't know, I was just a kid. I didn't know anything about life or relationships and I was just, I thought I was just having fun and doing what I do, but.

Thanks for being honest about that and being vulnerable with that because since you've come out, you've had a lot of confidence, you've had a lot of power with you, which I respect. But to know that you could acknowledge that the reason you'd made certain choices was because there was a point in your life where you felt like your self-esteem wasn't there?

Yeah, I was in the wrong. I definitely was. Like what I did to him is wrong in all ways and I acknowledge that and I know that and I wanna grow from that, but it seems he just can't move on.

So you are on OnlyFans with him, correct? Just only with him?

Yes, only with him.

Okay, got it. Well, first I wanna meet your mom. Erica's mother is joining us remotely. So everyone please welcome Chrissy to the show. Chrissy, you've been watching How do you feel about what has been said?

A little hurt and a little like she's got it a little bit wrong.

I don't have anything wrong. I'm my own person. I have my own life and I do what I do and I'm making money. You're not paying my bills. You're not paying my rent.

You do, but you also have two little sisters that look up to you. Okay. And as a parent, it makes it very hard for me to be proud and brag about what my kid's doing for a living.

Well, you don't have to tell them anything. Just tell them how much I'm making a month and that should be enough for them.

Not when it's at the cost it's at. It's hurting your relationship. It'll always hurt your relationship. It'll always follow.

I understand.

You don't have to do—

I understand how you feel, but I know what I'm doing, and I'm a grown adult, and it's my body, my choice.

That is the path of destruction.

I think you should mind your business.

It causes—

this is my life. This is my life, and I'm doing what I do.

You want to say you're insecure about your boyfriend talking to other women? What do you think porn does to women? Some of them, I guess not all women, don't get me wrong, but it makes us feel insecure.

It makes us look like we're not enough for ourselves. Do you see me, mom? Do you see me, mom? Do you see what I look like?

Yes, you are beautiful.

This is the time of my life where I should be doing what I want and then making money.

You're a little scared to tell me you don't think your kids will find it?

It's just a business exchange, mom. It's not anything big. It's not something that you should be worried about. It's just online. It's just online.

Why do you think your daughter decides to do sex work?

I don't know. She got sexually abused right before it, and I think that made her not value her body anymore. And so that's why she gets to sell it.

That doesn't take away value from myself.

Yes, it does. She took control back of her body 'cause that man took it. So now nobody's gonna take it. She's just gonna make money off of it.

Do you feel like that's what you're doing? That you're taking control back of your body because of a situation where you were molested?

No, I don't feel that way. Yes, it happened and it was an unfortunate situation, but that's not why I'm doing what I do. I'm doing what I'm doing for money and influence. It's like, it's a start to a big, something bigger.

Why do you blame her boyfriend?

Because I thought that he dragged her down that path, but in all actuality, she has a choice. Whether it was his idea or not, she had a choice.

Mom, we're gonna get back to you in a second. I wanna meet Erica's boyfriend, Cullen. So Cullen, come on out. How do you feel about what she's been saying?

I don't agree with any of it for the most part. Her saying that she's done all of this, that she's making $20K a month, that she works so hard. I work so hard. I sit at home and I do all this all day long.

We do it together.

So you feel like you're not getting support in your relationship?

I'm not getting support. I'm not getting loyalty. I'm not getting anything.

You are getting loyalty. I've been loyal to you for the past 2 years. Like I told you when I changed that I would stop. I told you that when I would change that I would stop.

Well, let's get to the unlocking the phone, so. Erica, so we're gonna unlock your phone first. All right, so Cullen, you want to know if Erica has been meeting up or chatting with other guys. Erica says she is not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched her apps and found Erica is telling the truth. There is no evidence that she has engaged in any flirtatious activity. Even her Tinder, her Hinge, her Bumble have all been deleted since 2020. Mm-hmm. Cullen, you want to know if Erica has met up with anyone in the past week or going anywhere near her college. Erica says she did not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched her GPS and found Erica is telling the truth. There was no GPS evidence that she was meeting up with guys to cheat on Cullen this past week. Told you. Cullen, you also wanna know if Erica has been communicating with any of the guys she has cheated with. Erica says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her DMs and found Erica is not telling the truth. I found at least one of her past hookups, but nothing sexually explicit. So they were talking, but nothing sexually explicit. What our unlock the phone investigator did find was a text chain between a male in Erica's phone and what seemed to be you pretending to be Erica and using her phone. Do you remember this? Wait, where?

Can you explain that again?

Sure, can I get the evidence back? So basically what we found, what I thought was interesting was we found you talking to another guy in her phone pretending to be her. And then you immediately then had to say, "This is me, her boyfriend talking to you." So you grabbed her phone to talk to other guys?

Yes.

Okay, great.

It's happened before too.

But then you also then were calling her like hoe and all these other names.

Yes.

While doing that. So you do remember this?

Yes.

So do you think that's appropriate behavior?

No, no, it was inappropriate. And I'd like to take the opportunity to apologize for names I've called you, but—

There's no need to apologize right now. Y'all are in a toxic cycle. That's not gonna help this. Cullen, we also asked you to unlock your phone, but you refused.

Are you fucking kidding me?

But Erica, he had a confession for you that he wanted to tell you something. Take a look.

I've been telling you for a year that I wanna be in an open relationship. And I'm serious. You cheated on me for 3 years, humiliated me for 3 years, slept with my friends, and I'm not taking it anymore. I'm taking my manhood back. If I wanna sleep with other women, that's what I'm gonna do. And I'm not gonna unlock my phone because you're not gonna like what's in there.

Are you for real? Like, are you actually kidding me?

That's what it is at this point. 3 years of cheating.

You just heard Karamo say that there is nothing in my phone and that I've changed and that I've been loyal. And now you're just gonna switch up and you're not even gonna You're not even gonna show me.

I have access to all of that because I manage you, Erika. I already see all those daily.

So?

This relationship is obviously toxic and has become transactional. You both know that. He's saying that if he doesn't get an open relationship, he is going to stop doing OnlyFans with you. And you clearly don't want an open relationship.

No.

And I don't think you should be forced into one. So does this mean you're gonna stop doing this page and do work on your own or what does this mean? Because—

I guess I might have to do it up by myself now.

So you making the decision right now to end this or no?

I think we have to.

Are you gonna continue the OnlyFans?

It's, yeah.

So how will you continue, how will you break up while also continuing the OnlyFans? How would that work?

She can continue doing her thing and— I'll still own the percentage of the page and my work and I'll still have to, 'cause she's gonna use my content as well.

Are you happy with the fact that she wants to?

We've already talked about all of this. That's what I'm saying is I'm not controlling. She can do whatever she wants. It's always been up to her.

Good luck to you. I'm gonna ask you to step off the stage really quickly. I just gotta wrap this up. Thank you so much. There's so many things going on here with your mom, with you and him, and also with your own self. You two are not gonna have the healthy relationship relationship you want, okay? You know that. Your mother loves you. I think she's worried about you and she doesn't know what's going on and she's a little lost. And I think the more that you can open up to her and the more you can communicate, the better off. I hope you really do end this relationship regardless of the financial gain you're getting. This is gonna keep you both trapped. Please do yourself a favor. No matter what, how much $20,000 you're making, it's not worth it. The change of who you are, okay?

Okay, I understand.

Karamo, I wish you the best of luck, seriously, all right? So during the show, we lost connection with Erica's mom, Christy, and we've got everyone back now, and she desperately wants a chance to resolve the situation with her daughter.

Let's continue the conversation. So please welcome Erica and Christy back to the show. So Christy, what do you think about what was said during the show?

I have a whirlwind of emotions from it. I don't think she has the comprehension that she needs to know what she's doing to her future and her life.

What will fix the relationship with your daughter in your opinion?

For her to stop doing what she's doing to get her—

I don't need to stop, Mom. I'm doing what I'm doing and it's my life and I'm doing what I care about and what I'm passionate about and what makes me the most money. And this is what's working and this is what I'm gonna do for as long as I can run with it.

That is for the privacy of your bedroom, not for the world to see.

I get it as a parent when your child makes choices that you don't agree with or that you don't understand. What we forget is that, and I like to use specific language, we actually end up having to grieve that dream or that life that we had for them. And that's what you're in right now. You're outside of any embarrassment you may be feeling or questioning your own parenting, you're grieving this life that you thought your child was gonna have. And that's part of what you're dealing with. You're aware of that?

I am, yes.

If your little sister followed in your footsteps, would you be okay with it?

I mean, not my sister. It's weird to think about. And I understand where she's coming from and how it can affect just people who are close to me, but still, it's the grand scheme of things.

So don't, I just wanna stay there because Erica, as you know, when you were on here, I don't judge your choices at all, but I'm not your mother. And so it's a different thing. And so what I was trying to show there is I want to get to a place where you can maybe understand what your mother is feeling. So when I asked you if you'd want your sister to follow in your footsteps, you had the same hesitation your mother had. And so I asked you that because I want you to see, and I'm not telling you to feel bad about your choice. I'm not trying to make you feel bad about your choice, but I want you to understand that your mother is having that same feeling you just had where you hesitated. You weren't able to confidently say, "Yes, I want my sister to follow." There was a bit of hesitation there. And so that's the hesitation your mother has for you. And I think if we can both understand where both of you are coming from in that space, maybe you can have a better conversation to hearing each other so that she can learn to respect you as you decide the woman that you are and the woman that you're gonna grow to be, but also while respecting your mother as the woman that she's been her entire life. You get what I'm saying here? The reason I asked that question is because I wanted to make sure that the foundation of love is there. Because what we're seeing with you all in this emotion is this is the first time y'all having a conversation where you're both seeing each other's point of view and not judging each other. I understand what you're feeling, Chrissy, so I would never judge what you're thinking right now. But I also understand that your daughter is a young woman who gets to make the choices that she wants with her body. And it's hard for you to understand the choices she's making. It's hard for you.

'Cause I think it's hard for her to understand how it's gonna affect the future.

As a parent myself, when my son does things, I always think immediately, how's this gonna affect you in 5 years, 10 years, 15 years? But then I take myself back to 20 and I think about the things where my parents said stuff and I realized that I had to make my own path. I had to learn my own lessons. But what allowed me to be here sitting on this stage successful was knowing that as I made my decisions, that my mother and my father was always gonna be there to love me. Point right now—

Yeah, and I will always be there for her. I know.

Always.

In this moment, I think being there for your daughter and saying, "All right, just talk to me. I'm not gonna judge you right now. Just tell me." I think that would allow her to have more conversation with you and open up to you. And maybe y'all could come to a path where y'all could be able to hear each other more. All right?

Yes.

I wish y'all the best of luck, sincerely. I really do.

Thank you.

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