"He's Cheating On Me With A Homeless S--T Bucket!" | KARAMO
Karamo mediates between Tasha and Jaleek over years of alleged cheating, missing money, and stolen belongings. Investigators examined their phones and found evidence of infidelities and escort solicitations. Karamo pushes them toward honest communication but ultimately suggests they end the relationship and work on themselves first.
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I was married for over 30 years to one man and I never cheated on my husband.
My producer told me that you was on Maury with him.
Oh yeah, yeah I was. We was on Maury.
You was on Maury with your ex-husband?
Yeah, no.
With your deceased husband, excuse me. You were on Maury with the deceased husband?
Yes.
Why were you on that show?
Because his ass was cheating.
Oh.
And he got caught.
He got caught?
He got caught, he lied, he failed that test.
What did Uncle Maury do? He did a lie detector test?
Yep, he did the lie detector test on that ass. And when them tests came back, he, and I remember the only question that he passed was when they asked him, do he take a shower before he come home? Is that the reason why he takes a shower before he get home? And he said no. That's the only one he passed.
Got it. The one, that's the one.
That's the only one he passed. All the rest of them, he failed.
See, listen, I always gotta thank Uncle Maury because he ran so that I could be here today, okay? Okay, let me tell y'all something.
Yep.
Uncle Morris said he doing lie detector tests. I said I'm unlocking phones. I need to see, okay? I need to see. And so let me be clear, you've been with this man for 1 year?
Almost a year.
Almost a year. Do you see a future with Dennis?
Yeah, if he ain't cheating and he's not lying and he doing the right thing. Other than that, hell no, I don't see myself with him.
Well listen, I heard your side. I wanna be fair. I wanna meet Dennis and hear what he has to say. So everyone please help me welcome Bring Dennis to the show.
And more lies. She's lying on me.
That's all she doing is lying. Oh, Dennis, Dennis. How you doing? She lying on you?
Yes, I'm good. How about you have two men doing the same thing, but I'm not cheating.
Okay, you're not cheating?
Nah.
At all?
Nah.
Were you in a relationship with the woman who was living with you?
No, I wasn't.
You weren't?
No, someone brought her to my home. Lie!
And she didn't have anywhere to stay.
What did you tell me? Don't get on TV trying to, don't try to shy stuff. Please stop cheating.
And I let her stay there with me and I told her.
She was a homeless hooker. She was a homeless hoe that go out there, paddle on her head and her legs go like that. What you talking about? But regardless of that. What you talking about? And he was sleeping with her.
Hey, regardless of that, I didn't know all of this.
Yes he did, yes he did. How you gonna have somebody bring her to your house and you was looking for sex with her?
So you didn't know that she was a homeless hooker?
No, no. No, no, no, no, no, no.
I had to.
I had to.
What did you not know?
She's a slut bucket.
No, I got divorced.
Straight slut bucket. I got divorced in '23.
Okay.
And I never been single in my life, right?
Got it.
So when I went to my house.
You wanna have a little fun.
Yeah, people bringing girls to my house. You can have fun, but you act accordingly. Because when you out there, look, my husband died. You understand? I didn't go out there looking for no man. It wasn't her. Shut up. I didn't go out there looking for no man to go out there and sow my wild oats. I was with him for all them years.
Got it.
I could've went out there, pat me on my head and my legs would've flew off. But I didn't do that. But I've been married. You understand? No, that's not the case. I've been married 3 times and divorced 3 times.
Oh, you've been married multiple times? So will you stay with her if we find something in her phone?
Perhaps.
I'm not sure. It depends on what it is.
I'm not no cheater, I ain't no holler.
She said if she finds something on your phone, we're done, but you said if you find something on her phone, you give her grace.
Yeah, I'm not giving no grace. Okay, interesting. Because I don't have time to stay with somebody that's not gonna be faithful to me because I'm too good of a woman and I know my worth.
Well, it's time to unlock the phone. But my thing is this, Wanda, we unlocked your phone.
Mm-hmm.
All right, Dennis, you wanna know if Wanda has been using apps to communicate with other men. Wanda says she is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her apps and found Wanda is telling the truth. Dennis, you wanna know if Wanda has been calling other men. Wanda says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her calls and found that Wanda is telling the truth.
How you like me now? How you like me? All that accusing. All that accusing and what?
Dennis, you wanna know if Wanda has been texting other men. Wanda says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her texts and found that Wanda It's telling the truth.
Thank you, thank you. Now what? Now what, bruh? Now I told you all I be doing is playing my game on my phone. Now what? Now what you gotta say? Sit down. No, tell me, say, oh, what you said? I'm sorry. You said if I pass, what you gonna do? What you gonna do? When we get home. No, no, no, that ain't what you said. You said if I pass my test, what you gonna do? Nothing. When we get home, stop. Now you owe me an apology. Don't you ever tell me I'm cheating on you.
Why you can't give the apology here? Why you gotta wait till you get home? Okay.
I ain't doing nothing. Well, I know you lying. You about to fail. Watch.
Well? Watch.
Well? Dennis, Dennis. Let the church say amen.
Dennis, we unlocked your phone.
Yes, sir.
Okay. And in honor of Uncle Maury, since you were there before, I think I'll read this like him. Wanda, you wanna know if Dennis has been using apps to communicate with other women.
Dennis says he has not.
My Lock the Phone investigator searched his apps and found that Dennis is not telling the truth. What's that? No, for real. Oh, I'm for real.
No, no, wait, man. Let me say this to you. I'm done with y'all guys.
What month was this? I'm mad. I'm boring.
What month was this?
No, really.
It's easy. No, I'm saying. I'm done, bro. I'm done.
You are not telling the truth.
I am done. Time to us get together. I'm done.
Dennis has been active on live webcam chats from August 5th until 2 days ago.
To what?
2 days ago.
Oh, I'm— oh, I'm— oh no, talking to no one. I mean, oh no.
Okay, well, here we go. Wanda, you want to know if Dennis has been DMing other women. Dennis says he has not. My locked-up phone investigator searched his DMs and found that Dennis is not telling the truth.
Come on, man.
Dennis had 3 deleted DMs from Sunday with a woman named—
Oh, that's it, that's it, that's it. I'm done with you, bro. I'm done. Look, I got—
Can I, can I— We got to keep going.
I'm done, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done, bro.
I'm done. Wanda, you want to know Dennis has been texting other women? Dennis says he is not. My locked phone investigator searched his text and found that Dennis is not telling the truth. Wait a minute. Dennis has 49 deleted texts from women, from a woman named And one of the conversations, one of the conversations he offered her $500.
Now you know about that. She know about that. You're a fucking liar.
So this is—
I don't know nothing about this.
No, no, because this is January. So you two would've been together in January.
Yeah, we was together in January. No, we wasn't. We was. We was together in January. You're a damn liar. We wasn't together in January. I spent New Year's by myself.
But New Year's by yourself, but this is January. This is January 20th.
No, we was together.
No, we was still making up the decision we wanted to be with each other.
All them texts right there. I'm done.
All of them. He says, yes, I'm good now and you're still sexy and beautiful to me. Baby, I need help with $50 from you and I will be glad if you help me out. No, no, no, that's what they said. If you can come see me, I'll give you $500. Now see what that is?
That's way prior. And I told her about all that.
Why you go for the $50? Now, now, now, listen to me.
We was not together. You are a liar.
We was talking to each other. We was not together. Now you know we were. When we got together?
You know when we got together. Because what you do for Valentine's Day? That was February. What you the damn way?
And we was together in January.
January 20th.
We was together.
We was together. We was talking and figuring out if we wanted to be together. You talking about I was talking? I was. You talk about your damn ass. We was not, get the fuck outta here.
Well listen.
And I told you when we did that, you was my boyfriend.
Okay, hold on. Okay, this.
All that was prior.
No, I'm gonna say this. Wanda, this is what I'm gonna say to you and this is the real. I'm sorry that this has not been the healthiest relationship because you've only been a year and for y'all to be on the show this soon, clearly the trust issue and the foundation out there. But what I'm noticing is a small pattern of believing men who have shown you that they're not going to be honest. But secondly, your husband just passed a year ago and this is a moment that I would suggest that you grieve. You're right. This is a moment that I feel like you should be learning about who you are as a woman without a man. There is so much life left to live, but I think until you live that life, you need to figure out who is Wanda and what does Wanda want?
Yep, and it ain't him. You better stop.
Good God. All right, baby. Because whatever man you get with next, you should need to come on Maura, you should need to come on Karamo, and Lord knows— No, 'cause he should be showing me from the— He should be showing you from the door.
From the door.
From the door.
That I'm a queen, the queen, treat me like a queen.
So the one thing, so I do believe that the universe God creates relationships and does things for a reason. I believe the reason this relationship happened was so that he could be the conduit for you to get help for what was ailing you. But you— Because I think that by yourself, I don't think you would've went. No. And I think that him being in your life, he needed to be there so that you can get to the hospital. And I do believe that there was some angel around you that said, hold on, he gonna give you a little stress, but girl, he gonna get you to the hospital.
Right, and he did.
And now that you healed, you say thank you and goodbye.
Thank you.
And goodbye. How long you two been together exactly? I've been, no, a year on and off.
I'm gonna say on and off from that whole year though. I ain't been with her 3 months straight.
Okay. Wow.
Wow.
Okay. And you said you've never cheated on her once?
No, the first time was in November though. First time. But you see, the thing about this is, though, what's funny about it, she'll break up with me, then leave, move on and go back to the ex.
And so during that time when she broke up with you, you got back with the ex?
This last time right here. Okay. And she went back with the ex within 6 days. So if you quick to be with a man that fast, you still with him.
Yeah, yeah.
You still with the man. Who you fooling?
And she's here to unlock her phone today. How do you feel about that?
To be honest with y'all, this caught me off guard.
'Cause she called the show. Yeah, she did all this.
I ain't know nothing. I was laying in the bed like this right here.
I said, "Yeah, right." But she wanna unlock her phone from November up to now. To show you.
Yeah, but guess what though, Karamo? What gonna happen when you unlock the phone? You proved your point. That's what you wanna bring me on here for. What you think? You gotta think about it. What you gonna do when you get back home? Say, "I took you on the show, unlock my phone." The guy still live down the road from you, so you defeating the purpose.
Got it. Well, even though she did say she wants to unlock the phone, we did ask you if there's anything you wanna see and you want to know maybe if Ella has been going to places that you don't know about, if she has sent any DMs between her and other men, and if she has been texting her ex-boyfriend or any other man, period.
Yes, sir.
Okay then. Okay everyone, well I think it's time to meet Ella and hear her side of the story. Welcome Ella to the show. So Ella, how do you feel about what was just said?
I admit to my wrongdoing.
Yes.
But now when I came back in November, I told him that I was tired, that I really wanted to be with him.
Okay.
I'm tired of the accusations. I'm tired of him going back and forth. I'm tired. And then when he get upset, he calls me names. He'll call me a fat, A, B, C. He'll call me all the time. I'm supposed to. You disrespecting me. You're supposed to.
Yeah, I ain't doing nothing.
No, you're not. Look how you treating me though. Look how you doing me, man. I didn't disrespect you. I'm talking about, man, I'm talking about you straight up dogging me. I asked for forgiveness. I asked you to forgive me. And you didn't go right back and do the same thing. I haven't did it since I came back this time. I don't know that. This time, from November to now. Mr. Karamo gonna unlock the phone. What you did from November on up? Mr. Karamo gonna unlock the phone.
You still dealing with that man, man.
I am not dealing with somebody that I don't want. I don't even know who it is no more. I don't want him, I want you.
It can be Jack, John, Jim, oh wow. So when you were first dating, were you still dating the other man?
Yes.
Okay.
And I told him that.
Okay.
When I came to his house, I told him that I was in a situationship.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying, she said, they're in a situationship with a situation. Yes, I did. But why pull an innocent man like Jackson into the situation? But yet and still, I did not lie to you none. You did. I told you the truth. Yeah, that right. But you played pickpack with me and this man, man. You took that picture with me. The only time I played pickpack was when you got upset with me and when you started cussing me out. Shouldn't no female have to go through somebody calling them a B. You right, you right, girl. You right, but guess what? But guess what though?
But guess what?
You sure used it as an advantage, I know that. 'Cause you played off that plate. That's what you wanted for yourself.
So let me back up. So the first time you saying you went back to your ex wasn't because you were going back to him.
You said it's like he just started He started cussing me out, calling me names.
Is that true from your perspective?
I had a reason to though, Karamo.
What was your reason?
What was the reason? The back and forth.
But she said in the beginning there was no back and forth. She said you just came to her.
When we first got into it, guess what she was?
Where?
Every time, right back. We ain't never last 2 months straight. But why? Every time, 2 months straight, then when you and him don't last a month, you'll come right back. Because you're a hoe. That was your excuse. Never I do it. That was your reason. Never I do it.
Even if I did do it, you went back. So Roderick says he feels like a side piece and you love the other guy more, is that true?
That's not true. That's not true.
Okay.
His phone broke. When his phone broke, he had a class of women, meaning he had about 40 women in his phone that was texting him.
Is that true?
Man, Karamo, she was laying beside me, man, with them women. I ain't never been with them women. It don't matter. It don't matter. Wait a minute, remember— And guess what she was doing?
Laying beside me with a wedding ring on, getting ready to get married.
Married texting another man beside me. But that's the only thing you really can play on. Come on, man. That's the only thing you can play on.
But that's the big thing.
That's the big thing. What you talking about?
'Cause he was single in that time and you were in a committed relationship. You had a ring on.
He was single. The ring I gave him. But he still had female texting him.
Okay, so you feel like he was possibly cheating when you weren't around?
Could be.
Okay, I understand. When did you end things with the other guy officially?
The end of November.
End of November. Okay then, so it's been about a month and a half that y'all been apart.
Ain't anything new, Karamo.
You still feel like that? There's somebody there, somebody there. Somebody's there?
Somebody. That's okay, he gonna unlock the phone for me, he gonna prove it. But what gonna happen when we leave?
So I wanna know.
What you mean what gonna happen when we leave? Well, I went to Karamo, I took you to Karamo, we pulled the phone, my phone got unlocked and stuff like that, now what? Listen, ain't no relationship if you don't have trust and faith.
Do you have trust and faith?
Yes, I do.
You trust him? Okay. Do you have faith that behavior will change? Do you trust her? Do you have faith that the behavior will change?
She gonna be right with that man.
All right. When Roger proposed to you, why did you say no at first?
I mean, he proposed to me. I said no because He had cussed me out, called me a name. Who wanna be married to somebody that call a woman a bitch or a whore or a slut?
Agreed.
This man told me that I was only good for laying on my back.
Did you say that? Yeah, I did. You did. Yeah. Uh-huh.
I'm the bad guy though. I'm the bad guy, okay.
No, y'all entitled to your opinion.
But listen, but when we on a good time, he treats me like a queen.
And that's what keeps you holding on?
Yes.
Yeah. Yeah, okay. Well, I think it's time to unlock the phone. Ella, by your request, we unlocked your phone.
Yes.
All right, here we go. Roderick, you wanna know if Ella has been going to places he doesn't know about. Ella says she's not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her GPS and found that Ella is telling the truth. So she is where she says she gonna be.
Okay, okay, okay.
Roderick, you wanna know if Ella has sent any DMs to other men? Ella says she has not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her DMs and found that Ella is telling the truth. Okay. Roderick, you wanna know if Ella has been texting her ex-boyfriend or any other men? Ella says she has not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her texts and found that Ella is not telling the truth. Whoa. Ella has 15 recently deleted messages, all sexual in nature.
Oh man.
Over with. So they are, what you up to? What you doing, Ella? You better not be cheating on me. I'm telling you that now. Body. I already took mines and gonna continue to take it. Watch out for it to see you soon. Though new job alert, I will never ever come stay with you. I like having sex and we can no more see once you broke up with me. You crash. The message you ain't telling me who blank. You'll anything, don't care if they gay. Hold on, hold on, hold on, Karamo.
You know what? Hold on, them mine right there. Those on my new phone. Thank you.
Thank you. Yeah, them mine, yeah, yeah, this off my new phone. Oh, got it, got it.
Yes, thank you. I ain't gonna sit here and lie on her, y'all, you know what I'm saying? That's Sada right there though, that's off my new phone.
So those are yours? So this message is from you?
Yes.
Okay then. Yeah, let's see what happened. You ain't saying you getting married yet to me, you playing game because you feel like you're getting your back together and you thought that the last time, I hope and pray you ain't doing all this to impress a punk-ass bitch, sexual-ass man, Lord, I hope not. I don't remember that though. Who you think I'm lying to?
That's you.
I don't remember that though. So that's how he's communicating?
Yeah. I don't think I remember that though.
Okay.
You starting to understand where I'm coming from.
So this is the thing, I asked you both, your own words is that a relationship is only good if you have trust and faith. And I asked you both clearly, do you have trust or faith? And you both said no. Do y'all really want to keep going in this where you arguing, where you feel like someone could go disrespect you? Because at some point one of you has to say enough is enough. I can tell you professionally, this is what I've been doing for years before I get on television. The foundation was never built here. It was built off of dishonesty and no trust. Y'all should have left this relationship back where y'all were when y'all were 13 years old.
You right.
Seriously.
You right.
This is toxic and both of y'all deserve better, honestly. And one of y'all gonna have to have the courage to say enough is enough. You can literally find somebody out there that's going to love you for you. Be there to support you. Be friends with each other. That's it. All right? I really do wish y'all the best of luck.
Okay.
Because my hope for y'all is y'all both find happiness and get what y'all deserve, which is true love and support. All right? All right. So wish y'all the best of luck. From your opinion, was William a good father to you?
When he wanted to be, he was. When he wasn't, he was not. Daddy, you wasn't all the time. I would call and ask for rides for work and stuff. Misha, I'm gonna have to pass on that one. I remember I used to have to walk down there. I had to do this, I had to do that. Okay, I'm doing it.
But that doesn't sound like a bad father.
No, it doesn't. But if you gotta pass my house to go to where you gotta go, why not stop and just—
Okay, okay. Do you remember William being there for you as a child though?
I do, but it was very limited.
Like, I don't even know how his siblings, You don't know all of his siblings?
I do not, but my brother does.
Yeah. You told my producer that you felt like he treated you differently. How?
Because like still to this day, Daddy, I go over your house, I be asking, he'd be cussing me out just going away. He just be going on like on the way here.
I know you mad.
No, Daddy, on the way here. You didn't even wait for me to go take the DNA test. You didn't. Karamo, I did. You did not. Daddy, to take the DNA test. They told me to be nice. I'm holding back.
Yeah, I know you are.
I'm like, oh boy, I'm holding back. Daddy. To take me to go do the DNA test, you waited for me? I didn't wait now. You didn't wait for me to go take the DNA test? The DNA went out? No, I didn't, I didn't.
Do you see him often, William, often?
He stay right around the corner.
So you see him all the time?
Well, he live next door. Soon as I come through the door, they hollering. It's 9 of them growing everywhere.
So you live near each other?
Yes.
And do you feel like that now as an adult that there's a connection?
Daddy, sometimes. Sometimes.
Okay.
Misha, you have a life, you have a man. And you do too. You have to be structured, you have to grow. That man has to take care of you, your kids, your family. If I do it, he ain't gonna do it.
How old were you when your mom passed?
I was 20 years old.
20 years old.
I was 20 years old. Like I said, my daddy told me first. At the age of 7, I wouldn't ask her.
Your mama's friend?
Yeah. I wouldn't ask her. When I asked her, She told me, she said, "I'm gonna tell you." And she told me, she kept it 100 with me. She said, "You keep it 100 with me and I keep it 100 with you." And ever since then, I knew about the possibilities. I knew about him and anything else like that. I know that was a good woman, y'all. This woman would get child support from me and give me half of it back. That's why I'm tearing up, 'cause I ain't never had a woman that's really just well-grounded. She was getting taken care of for the kids, but this woman would give me the half of child support back. And she just, it was just sad. I mean, she was just driving and lost control of her car. And that's the way it went.
Yeah, got it, okay.
She was a good person, sure.
Do you think William is your father?
I don't know what I want it to be. I just want it to basically help us deal with each other. You feel me? What'd you say? You know what? I don't know what I want it to be. I want it to help us deal with each other the right way. If you gonna structure me, you need to structure the rest of them.
Got it.
You feel me?
You want it to be equal treatment.
Right.
Okay, I hear that. These other two guys, are they alive? Do you know them?
Yeah.
You know how to get in contact with them?
Yeah.
Oh, okay then. Did you know that she knew how to get in contact with them?
I told him.
Okay.
You ain't told me that. When we sat at your table and I showed you them pictures, I did show you. You just showed me some pictures of them people. And I told you, how I'm gonna know where the pictures at if I don't never talk to 'em?
Well, listen, I think it's time to unlock the DNA truth.
Okay.
William, my brother, you come with me. This is yours to open. William, in this envelope is the DNA truth. As a young man, you had doubts, your family had doubts, but because, and I could see this, the love of her mother, you just fell in love with the daughter as well.
Yeah.
And you've raised her. From your opinion, it's been a great relationship. From hers, there's been rocky moments. But what I can see is that there is a relationship here and I do believe that relationship is based in some love. But I think that everyone has question in the back of their mind, are we truly related? This is your truth to open, not mine.
Well, Misha, I love you no matter what. This ain't— I may not have been there like you said, but I love you regardless and gonna help you with them 9 kids. Regardless. And not just bring them candy. Well, yeah, we can work on that, but I love you. Misha William is not your biological father.
How you feeling, Misha?
I feel like we already knew. It's okay, guys.
You feel like you already knew? Yeah, okay.
That's why, you know, that's why we here.
Yeah, you felt like you already knew.
Yeah, we both already knew.
Yeah, I was hoping it was leaning the other way though.
'Cause you look like. You said I didn't look like none of them. What, same mama. That's just, I know it, but that's what I'm saying. Even with the same mama, you would think that y'all would, my son and her looks alike.
Yeah.
But that's what was keeping me.
Hoping.
Hoping like, okay, But, got it.
I know that for you, you're probably like, we already know. And that there was some doubts there. But I do believe that you're in shock. I do believe, I do believe. What happened?
I just, um.
I believe you're in shock and let me tell you why. Because it's one thing to hear rumors. It's one thing to think it could be. It's one thing to even feel like maybe there's different treatment, but there's one thing to have confirmation. Right. And though he might not have been the best father to you in your eyes, he was the father you knew for 29 years.
Right, right.
And so that's why I said there's a bit of shock there because you're going to have to grieve the only man that you know. And vice versa, there's 29 years that you've known this young woman as your daughter, that you've been in her life. And so though, you're like, well, we kind of had the doubts, we kind of knew, we kind of were saying things. There's still a part of you that's going to have to like grieve this relationship that is not it.
Karamo, you know what a father feels when you know your kids is doing something and you, I might not be around her 24/7, but I'm in protect mode. Anything happened to her, I'm in protect mode.
Okay. Well, so with these other two men, would you like us to help you to see if they are your fathers?
Right.
Okay, have you ever talked to any of them?
I do.
You talk to both?
Mm-hmm.
Okay, how long have you been talking to them?
Since I found out it was a possibility. Well, tell 'em they didn't give me $80,000 back child support. You said mama gave you back $40,000 of it.
Yeah.
You said, "My mama gave me back $40,000." And 2 months in jail.
So listen, Any support you want from us, we'll give it to you. We'll give it to you, okay? If you wanna talk to these other men and get them tested, we'd be more than happy to support you. I'm sorry for this because I actually was hoping that it would've leaned the other way.
I was too.
Yeah, I really was.
I was, I really was.
I really was. But you know what? You deserve, as a child in this situation, to get your answers. You deserve to feel complete. You deserve to get your closure. So any help we can give you, get, we're here for you. And thank you both for being here and sharing your story with me. Seriously.
Controlling? So how I be controlling? But you ain't following. Narcissist, what did that mean? What'd that mean?
You got to control everything. Everything that we do, you got to be in control of. That's just a fact.
Can you stand up and do that though? Can you be in control?
Yes, I can. If I'm allowed to.
Oh, okay.
If I'm allowed to.
But I'm not allowed to if manipulative. How is that? How can I get in your mind when you don't even open up?
Because you always point to your brain. You always point to your brain. You always point to your brain.
Yeah, yeah, I need to be here.
I need to be here.
That's right, I need to be mentally strong.
So that's how you manipulate folks.
A cheater?
Yeah.
So when did I cheat on you? Now the story that you just gave, that was before we got married and we was only dating for 4 or 5 months.
I said that. So I said before we got married, honest with you, I said That's right, and I was honest, okay?
Okay. Coniving, so that means what? Kind of scheme. Hmm, what have I done to you? Evil, conniving.
So let me ask you this. So you're saying that the first time he did admit this, he said it was when y'all were beginning, starting to date, but the second time when he knocked on the hotel door, y'all were married at that point, right?
No, we weren't.
You weren't married at that point.
We were not.
Okay then, are you cheating on him now? No. Okay then. So you saw that he cried when you looked at your wedding photo, how did that make you feel knowing that he was crying when he saw your wedding photo?
It made me feel good 'cause I know that the love is there and I know that the love is genuine.
I love you unconditionally, man.
Yeah, you told me the second week you married me, yup.
I do two things.
The second week when I told you? Oh, I love you so much. The second week when I asked you.
That's right, 'cause I knew I found the person I wanted to be with and that I thought in the beginning was gonna be genuine throughout until those incidents happened.
But you had a girlfriend when we met, but when we when you met you was asking for sex?
Yeah.
With a girlfriend?
That wasn't my girlfriend.
But you just said it was.
That was a one-night stand. Okay. Well, William turned over his phone because he wanted to unlock his phone. And so, Raquel, you want to know if William has been on any dating sites. You want to know if William has any explicit photos on his phone. Not the pfft. And then if he's communicating with any other women. Really? Raquel, I gotta ask you what's on the line.
Well, you know, he know what time it is. I done told him before. Baby, I got the papers. I keep them ready. Baby, they stay in the side drawer, you know what I'm saying? I ain't got no kids by him. I don't owe him nothing.
Okay, so I heard you say that earlier. I thought you was joking. You really keep divorce papers in the side? Yeah, she got a paper. I seen them.
But he said he didn't see what I'm saying. But hold on.
Why you got divorce papers? It's as if you're hoping that this would fail.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I don't know.
How long have you had them? About About 6 months. 6 months? Uh-huh, about 6 months.
Was that in y'all marriage or somewhere else?
6 months ago. Mm-hmm, backtrack 6 months, you know, July, December.
What happened at 6 months ago that made you say, "Let me get divorce papers"?
'Cause he always show up bright and loud in front of other people and then he speak his truth.
Like what do you mean, family, friends? He will talk about your relationship very boastfully?
Yes.
Or like aggressively?
Yes.
And then when he's with you, you don't communicate?
Shut down, walk past me. I might talk to Karamo and turn around and he gone.
We don't have a communication. Where you going? Communication. So why is it that when you're with other people, you're able to communicate about the relationship, but you're not? 'Cause they ain't all down my throat like she is. Okay. What is he saying?
So he talks about his other woman, you know, that they died, they did all this stuff together.
He talk about the other one's exes. Okay, so it's not that he's talking about your relationship when you're around, when he's out with other people. He talks about things that you find inappropriate.
Yes.
Okay, I understand. Yes.
Quit asking inappropriate questions then, you won't get the answer that you asking. Come on now.
So are you asking him? No. Are these prompted?
Uh-uh.
Okay, so, but when he's home, you're saying there's no communication with you. So what do you mean? Are you asking him about his feelings, what he wants in relationships? What are you asking him at home?
I love, just what he said, pick his mind. It's not picking his mind, it's just wanting to know what's in there.
So when she asks you about yourself, do you open up? Sometimes. Why sometimes? Because it may not be the answer she looking for. Okay. You know what I'm saying? I told her once, I love the person that I am. I love the way I'm built, you know what I'm saying? It may not be the way that you like, but it's the way I like. This is the way I am, this is the way I'm built. I get that, I get that. And you should love the way you are, who you are, and as you are. But my question is, why are you not able to open up? Because if you're in a relationship, in a marriage, you have to be able to communicate. Man, I've been down that road, man, to where I don't I've been hurt so many times, man. I just rather be shut off. Got it. You know what I mean? I'm just, I'm tired.
You gave him a reason.
Uh-huh, I get it.
I don't know. It sounds like past stuff though. It sounds like he put me with the past and he's not allowing us to live in the future.
That does what it sound like, but we are about to unlock some phones to see if that past is in the future or in the present. So it's time to unlock the phone. Karamo, it's time to unlock your phone. You wanna know if William is on any dating sites. William said he is not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched his apps and found he's telling the truth.
Finally, finally, finally. Finally. My man, please.
Man, go ahead on with that, y'all. Raquel, you wanna know if William has any explicit photos on his phone. William says he does not. My Lock the Phone investigator searched his photos and found that William is zero. Telling the truth. Zero.
You're a zero.
All right, Raquel, you wanna know if William is communicating with any other women. William said he did not. My Lock the Phone investigator searched his phone and found He's telling the truth.
9.
I'm that guy. I'm that guy. You know what I mean? All right, so how do you feel knowing that we didn't find anything in his phone?
Lame.
Uh-huh, lame?
He lame. I mean—
You want him to show you something? Lame?
Absolutely not.
Then what do you mean? Like you—
He's not giving me anything.
So you're saying—
I get nothing.
So you're saying even the bad, So you're saying that even the bad would be something for you because you feel like it would give you some type of energy.
To work in, to work through. Yes, yes.
It's misguided, but I understand what you're saying.
Okay, thank you.
It's misguided, but I do understand what you're saying. Well, Raquel, it's time to unlock your phone. Yeah, yeah. Well, William, you wanna know if Raquel's communicating with any other men. Raquel said she is not. My locked phone investigator searched her texts and found that Raquel is not telling the truth. What? Investigator found two conversations with a man named Baby. Who the hell is Baby? So, Baby says, "When are you free again? I can get out now, boo. You ready to see me again, baby?" So that's what you be doing in the car then? Okay. So this one says, "Call me on this number. I'm out and about. Call me when you get a moment, all right?" Ain't this a bitch? Okay. All right, I think I know exactly who the head of that is, man. Will you wanna know if Raquel is on any dating apps? Raquel says she is not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched her apps and found that Raquel is not telling the truth. Raquel has two dating apps, Singles and Kendra G Singles Dating downloaded on her phone as recently as August of 2024. Why be married, man? Real talk. Why be married, cuz?
I don't do nothing to you.
Nothing. I don't do nothing to you, bro.
That's the problem. You do nothing. You do nothing.
You know what?
You're mundane. You know what? You can have all that noise, man.
You can have all that noise, man.
Okay, period.
William, you wanna know if Raquel has been direct messaging with any other men. Raquel says she is not. My Lock the Phone investigator searched her DMs and found she's not telling the truth. 94? Damn, player. My investigator found 94 DMs between Raquel and 3 different men. And these were after you were married as recently as a year. Love you, you're looking sexy. So this one was in January 2024. Yeah, ma'am, so you ain't gotta get. Man, get the fuck outta here, player. Let this warm you up. Really? Uh-huh. You meet me at blank oyster and food here. So we have the messages.
That's how we living?
So these are all— We living foul like shit, bro. Excuse my language, man. No, you're fine. You just found out your wife is not being faithful, so I understand it. So these are all the messages that we found. 4 years, dog. 4 years, player. 3, 3, 2, 1, whatever.
Right, zero.
It's going down the drain.
It's going down in the DMs.
But Raquel, it's interesting because I've been tracking what you've been saying and you're saying, I'm gonna give you these to look at backstage. You're saying that you want him to fight for you, but your actions have proved this relationship isn't worth fighting for.
But this is the last year, all this within this year.
I think when I asked you the question earlier if you are in love, you said you're not in love anymore. You even brought divorce papers here.
Mm-hmm.
So you brought divorce papers here?
The same ones he told me that I never had.
Yeah, so the fact that you brought 'em here and you know, you're a very intelligent woman, so you knew we were gonna find some in your phone. And so this was sort of the last nail you need in that coffin to say, "I'm done." Absolutely. Because you know he's done now too.
Mm-hmm. It's not a problem.
William, what do you have to say to Raquel? I ain't got shit, bro.
Once again, he got nothing.
It was a pleasure meeting you. You're out of this relationship. I hope that you actually take those divorce papers, y'all end this relationship and y'all move forward and you find what you need in life. I really do wish you the best of luck.
Thank you.
I'm gonna ask you to leave the stage so I can have a moment with Word.
Thank you.
Thank you so much. I'm glad you got your answers. I think you already had your answers. In you before. I have given my all to women. I should be living my best life by myself, but I choose to be in a relationship. So hear me out, and this is what I need you to know. I do believe there's a woman out there that's going to value you, but before you find that woman, you gotta do some work on yourself. And that work does not start with shutting down. It starts with opening up. "Okay, I don't want you alone and I don't want you shut down, okay?
You deserve love and you deserve happiness, but you've gotta do the work to get there." And I guess she was leaning on the casket and shaking it and screaming, which that is her niece. Yeah. So she hurt too, but she wasn't supposed to be there. The pastor said, "Okay, you have to go now. I let you spend time." And she started cussing him out and calling him names right in the church. So my husband had to go and take her like this and get her outta the church. And the whole time the church is just full of people, all the people from my job, all my family. And while he's taking her out, she's, "Get your hands off me, you." All the way outta the church, she's screaming all this stuff in front of all these people.
Mm, mm, mm, mm. Did you involve your sister in the funeral planning?
No, my sister and I were not speaking even before my daughter passed 'cause my sister is evil.
Evil, those are strong words. Why do you think she's evil?
She's always been like that. She does stuff if she gets upset about somebody. At someone, she does things to try to ruin their life. Just a week ago, I mean, my daughter's been dead since March and she's done all this evil stuff. She sent out texts saying, "I'm the reason my daughter is dead." She sent out all these mean, evil texts to people.
Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. So you think she's vindictive?
Yes, very. She tells people she helped raise my kids. No, you didn't. I was a single parent. I want her to apologize to me and my kids, and she needs to go get some help. She needs a mental disorder. You need the fucking help, Nita.
Okay, hold on, I hear your sister backstage. I hear her upstage, let's go ahead and bring Dora out, I wanna talk to her.
You are evil. Nita. You haven't even said nothing to me since my daughter died. I didn't come out here for this. My daughter is dead. That's my niece and I helped you raise her. No, you did not. Oh my God, Nita, for real? You came out here for attention. You were asking. You are sitting up here trying to. And you wasn't even a good mom. You won't even let me talk. See? Because let me tell you about their funeral. I walked in that church, I went to the casket, I'm grieving over Brea. This is my niece too. And then all of a sudden, here come your hero fucking husband, put me in a full Nelson, my feet off the ground, and just take me out. I did call one person a bitch. In the church? In the church.
I'm sorry for your loss as well, 'cause even though this is not—
Yeah, because obviously it wasn't, I had nothing to do with it.
I understand.
I've been around her all my life.
I get it, I get it.
I mean, and she didn't give me enough respect to even allow me to grieve with my family. That's what funerals are for. I needed my family too that day.
Cuz when you came out here, you said she's lying about stuff. What is that?
She's lying about me calling all these people names and carrying on. I didn't do that, and I mean that.
You said she's jealous of you. Tell me about that.
She's always been jealous of me.
Yeah, cuz it's clearly— this is issues from the in the past, why do you think she's jealous?
Well, the reason why I think she's jealous is because of my accomplishments I've done in life.
She said something earlier that, well, she said that her husband dragged you outta the church and then you came out here to confirm it and said her husband dragged you outta the church that day.
And you know what, let me say this.
And what did that do? How did that make you feel when he did that?
Disrespected. You need help. We all need help. And see, that's one thing I didn't mention. We all need help. I didn't mention that you still smoking crack. I was gonna try to stop that. The last time I— I didn't mention that. The last time I saw you, smoke crack. It was with you. Oh yeah, it was with you. But you know what, you understand me? I'm not lying. No, she's not. In 19— in 1985, I was introduced to crack cocaine, and I ain't touched it since. I'm not going to do this. I was done with it. I'm not going to do— yeah, get your ass off the stage. See, because look how evil she is. She is evil. Have you heard her say one thing to me about my daughter being dead? No. Since my daughter died, this is all she has That is not true. I'm not gonna disrespect my sister and put her down like that.
But you both have. You both have. My question to you—
Let me ask this question. Sure. Why am I here? Because you owe us an apology and you need to go get some help. No, you owe me an apology. You do too. We all need help. You don't think you should apologize for what you did in my sister's life? Are you kidding me? You don't think you should apologize for what you did in my sister's life? You need help.
Dora, I wanna ask you a question. And this is sincere, and I don't want, I wanna just, 'cause I need to get back to the focus of what this is. How did your niece's death affect you?
It affected me deeply. Do you know I haven't been able to eat, sleep? I've been drinking every fucking day. This shit is hard on me, and she think I ain't been affected by this? She thinks she the only one that's being hurt and affected by this, and she's selfish.
You're still not eating, you're still hurt.
I'm still not.
You're hurt.
I'm still hurt. But she's sitting in Texas and calling people bitches and sending all these voicemails telling me that I'm the reason my daughter is dead.
Did you say to her that she's the reason her daughter was dead?
I did say that, yeah.
Dora, do you think you owe her an apology for saying that she is the cause of her daughter's death?
Of course I do.
Can you at least give her that and start there?
Yeah, Nita, I am sorry about that. I know that hurt you and I really apologize for that. One thing about me, I'm woman enough to admit when I'm wrong and I'll say I'm wrong. But when I'm right and people sitting here trying to assassinate my character, I'm not gonna let that happen either.
All right, I understand, I understand. And listen, I know that's not something you want.
I didn't even wanna come here.
But we gotta take this step by step. That's what I do. We gotta take it step by step. For me, I have to not be biased and I have to hear both sides. My show's all about hearing both sides.
About healing.
The issues that you all have as sisters, and again, this is not something—
I don't have a sister.
You do.
It's hard. It's hard. Don't worry, don't worry, 'cause one day she's always gonna be gone.
When that day comes, I want y'all to have at least some resolution where you can hear each other. And I understand you have all right, just as you have right as well, to be close, because the issues that y'all have started way before the death It started years ago as children. Then there is trauma that has been compounded.
Yeah, but she left me at 11 years old. I left myself at 14.
So that means there's been issues from y'all as little girls.
Yes. Absolutely.
But I see where it has started from. But what I know is that this could be the first step for y'all to try to start to heal. Go with your intentions and go with your heart. Say to your sister what you want to say because at least you get to walk away clear knowing that you got the knowledge.
Absolutely, I'm gonna walk away clear. So do that. I'm gonna walk away clear.
That's all I'm asking for. Karamo, can you turn to your sister? And I want for this moment, I know that your daughter just passed. It has only been a few hours.
And it's hurtful. I know. And I miss her.
I know.
I do too.
I know.
But she's not your daughter. I helped you raise her. No, you didn't. Nita, please. Hold on. I'm your only sister.
I gotta tell you something.
I'm the only auntie. Who you think was gonna help?
No one, no one. And here, no one is going to ever match your grief as a mother, but she's feeling her pain too. I asked her earlier and that's why I went back to how is this affecting you? Because I didn't wanna hear about funerals and I wanted to hear that what you said when she said she's drinking and she's not sleeping and these are going through, I believe that. 'Cause no matter what, she loved that child as well. She loved that child as well.
I know.
It's not about the death of your daughter, of your niece. This has been going on and this has just compounded it and brought it to the forefront where now it's like we're broken because of this. But this is actually a moment where y'all should be healing and trying to get stronger together. Can you say what you said you came here to say to her? She's not gonna rebuttal, she's not gonna scream back. You give me your word on that, right?
Yes. I came to tell my sister that I'm truly, truly sorry we lost Briel. You know, and we lost Briel in a sad way. And you know, let's be honest out here, she was snorting dope.
Hold on, we don't gotta do that.
Yep, well I'm just telling you. That's what she does. I tell the truth.
In this moment, the truth won't help. I'm just trying to tell the truth. Just go with what you said, I get it. So just tell her what you want her to hear. Not about the daughter, not about the death. Tell her what you started to say.
Okay.
I know it's in there.
I wanted to just tell my sister I'm so sorry that we lost Briel, that you lost your baby.
We're gonna stop there. I know, and I'm not asking you to respond and I'm not asking you to forgive right now, but I want you to at least have heard it clearly. She's sorry for it.
I'm here for it.
And I know that you needed to hear that. Let me tell you something, something that you said that hit my heart was at the end of the day, one day when y'all pass, I don't want y'all being there having any regrets about your sister because you see how hard it is. Both of y'all see how hard it is when you lose somebody you love. And at the core of this, y'all wouldn't be sitting on this couch if there wasn't still love there. Y'all would've been done and out.
Well.
So I wanna know right now, Can you commit to not calling her evil?
Yes.
Can you tell her that?
I will not call you anything evil or not, but I'm the evil one.
Okay, hold on. Anita, I love you. You are my sister.
You are my only sister. I've always loved you. Why did you bring me out here? So you can apologize and go get some mental help. You need some too, baby.
Okay, well, if I offer therapy—
At least I'm grown enough to admit I need help.
Okay.
You are in denial.
If I offer therapy, will you take it?
Absolutely. I'm already taking therapy.
Okay, got it. Well, at least she's gonna be in and out. So listen, listen. I don't have that help right now. Got it. Well, I'm gonna give it to you because there's so much pain here and I can't get through all of it.
Right.
But at least what has happened is you got a sincere apology. She's also committed to you, Dora, that she's going to stop calling you.
Doing you evil.
So at least we've made, whether it happens or not, it's a step and that's all it is. There's so much distrust here that's gonna take years for y'all to heal.
This kind of stuff is generational, baby.
I know. You should tune into this show. You would see what I'm talking about on this.
This is generational.
You should tune in.
He then called my sister and told my sister, "Tell that B to stop calling my phone 'cause I'm married now." What?
And you said y'all 3 years in at this point? Yeah. And this little boy 38?
Yeah.
And you 60?
Yes.
Okay, I understand. When you say you gave your everything, what do you mean by that?
I met him, he had nothing.
I heard you moved him out, you bought him a ticket back.
Yeah, and After he got married, we continued to see each other. I never, never, never left. Why? 'Cause I love him. I'm in love with him.
Okay.
I'm in love with him.
Okay. Still?
I'm in love with him. Right now? Right now.
Okay. Okay. So what'd you do?
I sold my home and moved to Augusta, Georgia while he was still married to this girl off of the account that he had. He would get a divorce when I got there.
And when you moved there, what did he do?
He continued to go back and forth between me and her.
So he didn't get the divorce?
He never got a divorce until the very end of it.
And how long ago was that?
He's been divorced now, I wanna say about 5 or 6 months.
Did you ever hear from his wife?
Me and his wife are best friends today.
Girl, you playing now.
No, I'm not.
You just said you was in a situationship, a throuple before. I'm still confused with why you friends with either of them. I am, I'm confused why you friends with either of them. He got married. He got married. Why you in a relationship? You do know that, right? No? Okay, girl. So when was the last time you and JJ were intimate?
August 24th, 2024.
So a couple months ago.
Mm-hmm.
And when was the last time you saw him?
August 24th, 2024.
So are y'all in a relationship right now?
I don't know what the hell y'all I mean, I don't know what to call it.
Now you can be real, 'cause I don't know what the hell to call it either. You can be real.
I don't know what the hell to call this, Karamo.
Okay. 'Cause there is so much to unpack here. My producers who can be shady sometimes said they made a timeline. Let me see this timeline y'all done made. Okay, so this is what happened. JJ moves in after meeting online. October, he visits his family in Georgia. Then November 2021 is when he marries another woman. Then 2022 is when you sell the house. To be with him. August 24th, you two are intimate. And then 3 weeks ago, you visit JJ and buy him groceries.
Yeah, when I left Augusta, Georgia, I just couldn't take it no more. I was like, I'm the hell outta here. This is it. So I left Augusta, Georgia, August the 28th, and I came back back to Wilmington, Delaware, where I reside now. He then left Rensselaer, Georgia, and moved to Hampton, Virginia, with his cousin. We continued to talk. He asked me to come see him. I agreed to go down and see him, 'cause I'm still there, I'm still in, I'm not out. So I go down there and I buy him groceries, I buy him clothes, I get his haircut, I get 'em groomed.
Okay. So you asked our Unlock the Phone investigator to unlock JJ's phone 'cause you want to know if JJ was talking to other women, how JJ really feels about you, and if JJ will take this relationship seriously. Correct?
Correct.
I think it's time to welcome JJ to the show to hear his side of the story. So everyone, please welcome JJ.
How y'all doing? So yeah.
Hey, JJ, what's up? What's going on?
Uh, I don't know why I'm on the show anyway.
Because y'all called.
I ain't called.
Well, she called and you accepted the invite. So what's going on?
I don't know what's going on.
Do you agree with the way Reddit describes your relationship? That you were in a healthy, you were not healthy, excuse me, misspoke. That you were in a relationship for 3 years, then you lied and got married to another woman, and then you left that woman to be back with her?
I mean, I ain't lie about anything.
Okay, so you were telling her that you're not together?
Well, I mean, yeah, I done told her that.
Okay. Did you ever have feelings for her?
Yeah, in the beginning.
Okay. And what happened?
I mean, we separated and I moved on.
Okay.
That's not true. What? That's not true.
Well, give me your version then.
What happened was—
Well, not your version. I know your version. I need JJ version.
What's your conclusion? I mean, she was tearing all my stuff up, kicking me out, just doing all kind of crazy stuff, so I moved on.
Were you doing that?
Yeah, 'cause he was in my house cheating on me.
Okay.
And I had evidence to prove it.
Got it. So did you see this timeline that we have of y'all relationship? You agree with this timeline? 'Cause it sound like you're saying that that's not accurate. So did you move in after being online 2019?
Hold on, so who?
2019, up top.
2019.
Did you move in?
Yeah, 2019, y'all moved in.
Okay, and then October 2021, you visit your family in Georgia?
No. Yes, you did. I moved home.
You moved home.
You went to visit. I ain't went to visit, how you gonna tell me? You still had clothes at my house.
Hold on, we got moving graphics up? They don't tell me what's happening here, 'cause I'm like, whoa.
We broke up.
So you broke up in October 2021?
Yes. So you telling me when you left my home on October 15th, 2021, that me and you was not in a committed relationship? Yes, we were. And you know why we were? Because I called and asked you, was you getting married? You told me no. I ain't talk to you. You did. Stop lying. That's why we're here today.
That ain't why I'm here.
That's why you here. You wanna be with me, it's okay. But stop leading me on and stop playing with me, my money, my heart. I ain't leading you on nothing. Yes, you are.
Well, November 2021, you married another woman?
Yes.
Okay. And then May 2022, she sold her house to be near you? Yes. Okay, and then August 2024, were y'all intimate?
No, sir, I don't know nothing about that. We wasn't together.
Whoever's in the booth, y'all quick with the red lines and everything. I appreciate it. Okay, so what happened? So what happened in 2024?
What happened?
Yeah, what happened? August 2024 then, so y'all weren't intimate. Did y'all see each other during that time?
No, sir.
Okay, and so then 3 weeks ago, Did she buy you groceries?
Yeah, she came down to visit.
Okay. Okay, did you ask her for money?
I mean— Every day! Every day! And you better not lie, every day! I don't know nothing about that right now. Every day I give you, every day you call me, I'm there for you. Anytime you need anything, I'm there for you. Don't you dare act like I ain't your backbone. Don't you dare.
This is the thing right here. I can already track behavior. I know you do use women, so I already know that. Listen, we unlocked your phone, JJ. So, well actually, hold on, actually, my producer tell me we actually did not unlock 'cause you have a confession.
Redda, I'm not unlocking my phone, period. We are just friends. Our relationship ended 2021. We will never be in a relationship ever again. I appreciate everything you done for me, but I'm moving on.
JJ, what has been happening the last 3 years?
I mean, we weren't together in the last 3 years.
Okay. You got your answers?
Yes, I do.
Okay, so I'm gonna ask you this, 'cause this whole thing right now, talking about you in love with this little boy right here is silly. I'm gonna ask you really quickly. So at what point did your self-esteem get broken that you felt like this is what you deserve? Because that's the real question we gotta talk about here. Because all these antics, all I heard was either a young woman that was hurt, never healed, and also you think you're his mama. That's what I heard both times. Don't do this, I'm not on your side.
I'm just saying.
I ain't on your side, I ain't on your side. You use women and you do some deceitful stuff and you gotta grow through that, you understand?
Who said I don't use 'em? You—
So I'm gonna ask you again, at what point did your self-esteem break that you stopped understanding what you deserve?
I don't know.
Okay, so that's the first place we gotta start.
I don't know.
Because for any grown woman who, I see the passion, I understand the hurt, but the choice Choice to sell your house was not a JJ choice, that was a you choice. And that is a choice, that is a choice of somebody who doesn't understand their own worth, their own security, what they have to do for themselves. If you could easily give up your own security for a man because you love him, that tells me something about your emotional and mental state. And that's what needs to be fixed. My investigator found that you accessed Tinder online and used, her username.
Tinder is a dating site. I wouldn't even— It's a dating site.
Hold on, did you have a Tinder site?
No, I didn't have no Tinder. I had Plenty of Fish.
Did you have a— Hold on, did you have a Tinder at one time? I don't have Tinder.
He had a Tinder. Yes, you did. I ain't had no Tinder.
Okay. Okay. No.
Okay, okay.
Okay, that's a little confusing 'cause it's your username. Is that—
Okay, he can make up a username. Oh, I'm not using that one.
Okay, okay, okay.
No.
It looks suspicious. Victoria, you want to know if Carlos is texting other women. He said he is not. My Lockdown Phone investigator searched his texts and found that Carlos—
Telling the truth.
Is not telling the truth. My investigator found a text thread soliciting an escort. We can take a look at this.
An escort?
Carlos, it's 30 minutes ago, no deposit refund. This is May.
How many hours do you need for me?
So this is also Carlos right before your birthday. So you trying to give yourself a birthday gift?
Yes.
'Cause it's his birthday May 11th, right? And that's when you disappeared when he was at your cousin's house, right?
I knew it, I knew it, I knew it.
That don't mean I was cheating.
What does that mean then if it don't mean you was cheating? Hello, come on now.
I'm not cheating.
Look at this right here. For 3 days, I didn't even hear from you.
I ain't even had no other female. This is the profile that he had communicated.
Oh, okay.
There you go. So I gotta say, there is no evidence that they met up. We can't find a text saying that I'm outside or something, but. That was something my cousin probably did, man, during my birthday, man.
I told you everything is somebody else's fault. Everybody is somebody else's fault.
Yeah. Okay.
Everything is somebody else's fault.
Okay, but I gotta say that my investigator did conclude that there was no evidence to show that you met up with her. So like I said, we don't know.
But listen, whether he met up with her or not, you did not answer my phone calls for 3 days.
Oh, that date. I was wrong for that. I was wrong for that, but you see how it could be suspicious. Yes, I do.
But he just told me that. Okay, he told her, but—
Nah, so you think that's just like, okay, so you think your cousin took your phone? Oh, he could have probably been jiving with me that, man. We was dope, man. We was, man, when I was in Oklahoma, man, I don't even drink, man. He took me to the ball. Okay, okay, okay. Who was that? Well, Victoria, you also asked Carlos to take a drug test. Let's unlock the truth about that. Okay, okay, Victoria, you want to know if Carlos is is currently taking any drugs, including cocaine?
No.
We gave Carlos a drug test and he—
Clean. Pass.
Did not test positive for any drugs. Okay. So there were no drugs found in Carlos' system. Drug-free, man. Yeah, drug-free. Drug-free, man. Oh my goodness. Yes, sir.
I was about to subtract you right now.
All right, so yeah, if I was a betting man, my best guess, man, based on the knowledge I have, I would assume that for your birthday, after a long road trip, you had went to your cousin's house, get messed up, you probably started using again for that weekend. You don't need to confirm or deny, I'm gonna tell you what my opinion is. Yes, sir. And I believe during that time you were using, and during those times of you using cocaine again, drinking, you then also were probably talking and was like, oh, maybe we should get a girl, like doing this and that. That's where that text message came from. Came in and then I think that as the drugs wore off, as they normally do, that it put your ass out and you was knocked the hell out. And so for a day and a half you sat in bed and you didn't do anything.
So you don't—
If I was a betting man, that's what I would assume happened. And then you woke up and realized, oh damn, I messed up. I didn't call her, I didn't text her. But like in your mind you're also thinking, ooh, good, at least I didn't do anything. Anything. But in essence, you did do something. What you did was you broke the trust and security by not being in communication with her. And that's who it is. And so, so if there's nothing else, I will tell you that's what is the problem here. She's clearly stuck around long enough, but her moving out is clearly her telling you, I'm at my wit's end. Okay? I do anything to get this. I do anything. I'm telling you what to do. I'm telling you what to do. You ain't got a question. I'm taking it in. Well, listen, listen, Carlos, you also want to Victoria's phone unlocked. So Victoria, we unlocked your phone. Victoria said okay. All right, Carlos, you want to know if Victoria is messaging other men on social media. She says she is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her DMs and found that Victoria is telling the truth. Who at the end, baby? Carlos, you want to know if Victoria is is texting other men. She says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her texts and found that Victoria is telling the truth.
I told you.
Carlos, you want to know if Victoria is talking to other men. She says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her phone and found that Victoria is telling the truth.
I told you. I told you.
I told you, I told you. Hold on, hold on. My producers are shady. They told me that they have something else that they need me to see. Oh snap.
Oh my God.
I'm gonna tell you, hold on, hold on.
What is this?
Okay, my producers are telling me right now that backstage, you know, we got cameras everywhere, that they caught a conversation on camera on hidden camera that they need me to see.
What?
Okay, what is this? Let's look here.
It was March 2nd, 2021. Yeah, I went to South Carolina, but before I left, I had one nice thing. I did. And I never called this guy again. I never talked to him no more. None of that. I made him move a dating app, and I met him, and we was talking because my husband was gone all week. He was gone a week, and I was at home by myself a week. And so I'm, you know, I met him, and he came over that Saturday, and I went to church that Sunday. I got up and went to church that Sunday. Yeah, it went to church.
You went to church?
Yes, I did. I had to.
You She was up in here quoting the scripture talking about, listen, I'm the sanctity of the marriage. And after you cheated on the—
Yes, I had sex with my sis. She actually had sex with—
I was just in the presence of a woman. I didn't have, I didn't fuck a woman. I ain't have, that's not cheating.
I don't know what you did.
That's not cheating. I don't know what you did.
At least I'm honest.
Okay.
I am honest. And he was gone a whole week. He was gone right after.
No, no, no, we not justifying no more. No, we ain't justifying no more. He could have been dead. If he was dead, that don't mean go lay underneath another man and go to church.
No. What they say? To get over one man, to get up under another.
Uh-uh, uh-uh, no, no, Victoria, no, we ain't on your side.
One time.
No, no. One time in 6 years. Carlos, what are your thoughts? What are your thoughts? That she accusing me. She accusing me of doing, she accusing me. She don't have proof. Okay. But she, she— Well, she got some proof. We found this. We don't know if there was actual, but we do know that you was about to call somebody. And you slept with a man in our bed.
How you know if he was in the bed though?
How you know if he was in the bed? This is what I'm gonna say to you. This is what I'm gonna say to you. At this point, at this point, the past, this is what I'm gonna, if you really actually wanna work on it, on this, the past. I'm gonna go ahead and wipe y'all even. Now that we heard this, ain't no upper hand. Y'all even. Playing field is even. Playing field is even. So you ain't got no upper hand here. So you can't say nothing.
Nope, nope.
You can't say nothing no more. Nope, nope, nope. You can't say nothing no more. Playing field is even. And if she ever say something, you repeat my words. Say playing field is even. Playing field is even. But now what I'm gonna say to you from here on, yeah, you get that authority. But what I'm gonna say to you now, if you wanna work forward and move forward, if they actually want this, there is a key step that can happen. There needs to be intimacy. And it's not just physical, it's also mental. You two need, I'm gonna tell you, when y'all get home, I didn't know, y'all need to tell, don't nobody come over the house. You go back over his house or the house who you staying in. And if you really wanna work on this, you need to say, what can I do to make you feel desired? What can I make you feel like I want you? And let her tell you. Then now, after you are satisfied, okay, you're gonna sit up and you're gonna say, let me hear everything that's going on in that mind. Okay, validate his feelings, validate his thoughts, validate his fears. Let him know that I know you've been going through some stuff, I know you've been dealing with some stuff, and I want to let let you know I am there with you. You be intimate with her body, you get intimate with his mind. If you two can do that in one evening, y'all will be taking the first steps to a healthy relationship.
Thank you.
Thank you. Sound good for you?
Yes.
Sound good to you?
Yes. Dang good, man.
Sound good? Okay, great. Listen, well, okay, remember, playing even field, playing field here. All right, all right. Is there any way say the money could have just fallen out your wallet? How?
Okay, no way. I'm gonna show you my wallet. Okay, this is my wallet. You see them zippers?
Oh, that's a zip.
I'm a woman, I don't carry purses. I would— I make sure I got wallets with zippers. You know, they could say they fell out or something like that, but I'm quite sure did not fall out.
Is there any way that you could have left it unzipped?
No. Okay, because unconscious or not, my money—
you bought your money.
I'm about my money.
I know, I can tell.
I'mma zip my money right back, I'mma zip it right back up. Even if I give you a credit card. And you know, don't get me wrong, we made mistakes. And I ain't made no mistake. And if I did, I made it in my car. And you know.
I want you to raise your hand if you agree that she bought her money, raise your hand. Everybody. Don't nobody in here question that you bought your money. So I believe it was zipped up tight, right?
Right. And that's another thing, the pocket I had pants on because of going where I was going, I made sure I had pockets that button up or zip up.
So you had a button and a zipper?
In my pocket.
Okay, yeah.
Let me backtrack to the argument of the money. Now, he go up, some money right here. And then the driver say, "What? Oh, wait a minute, hold up." And she bends down and she finds some money in the back seat. How my money get in the back seat? Then she goes around on the driver's side and bends down and come from underneath the driver's seat with some more money, two $100 bills. Okay, and then she comes back around and I'm like, well, I'll be damned. Y'all didn't, y'all, yeah, y'all plotted this real good. Then she said, and here's your wallet. Now where she got my wallet from, I don't know. But she said, here's your wallet. And I said, I'll be damned, and I went in on her. "I said you gonna quit taking my money and giving it to your boyfriend. That's what the hell done did. You just stole my money to give it to the boyfriend." So we arguing back and forth, back and forth, and we cursing each other out. We had name calling now. And I called my cousin. I say, "Cuz, go outside and see if my wallet is on the curb somewhere outside where y'all got out the car at. I know it ain't 'cause I got my wallet in my hand." I just wanted to see what she was gonna say. She said, what, cuz, you ain't got your wallet? No, I ain't got my wallet. So she goes outside or whatever she did, she comes back, she gets on the phone, she said, no, it ain't out there.
How much money was missing?
$367.
And what did Rhonda say? So when you called her out, what did she say? I didn't have nothing to do with it.
She said, cuz, if I had saw your wallet, I would have gave you a wallet. I ain't see no wallet. She said all I saw was some I gave them to the driver.
Got it. So what do you think happened to the money?
They stole it.
You think they stole it?
And they split it. Ain't no, listen, the tops was in my wallet. If the tops fell out, then what else fell out?
Have you spoken to Rhonda since this happened?
One or two times. When I call and ask her, I say, are you willing to take a lie detector test? And she say, sure, cuz, when you want me, I'll be ready.
You know? That's it, okay.
And then when I asked her, I asked my friend though, guess what she said?
No.
No, she said, "What did Rhonda say?" Now why you concerned about what Rhonda said? 'Cause they was in cahoots, say it.
Well listen, I think it's time to hear Rhonda's side of all of this. Everyone please welcome Rhonda to the show. Hi Rhonda.
Hello, how are you?
I'm good, thank you. So what do you think happened today? What happened to this money?
My personal opinion, I gotta start from the beginning. I need the chair back there first so I can show you exactly what happened in the car. You need a chair? I need a chair.
Okay, can we get that chair? Okay, you on it? Thank you.
They on it?
They was quick with it.
Are you sitting behind me? Yeah, first of all, this is how the seating was in the car. The first time, me, my son, her friend. We all driving. We were going to South Bend for a funeral. That's it, that's all. She never got out the car until we got to our destination. The first stop we made was at a gas station. She gave her friend her credit card, her Link card, her Cash App card. No money in the beginning. She went and got the gas, that was it. On the way home, the second time we stopped to get gas, The girl purposely had to show Cousin Tammy, which I found weird. This what you gave me, two 20s, two 20s. Look, look, look. Even you said, you ain't gotta do all that, I know what I showed you. I found that weird because she didn't do that the first time. Now what I found strange, the driver, I'm looking at it, I'm looking at it, I'm looking at it, but I ain't thinking nothing about it because I'm enjoying the ride. I'm looking out the window. We all, we women, we carry big bags. Nobody drives with their fucking bag by they feet. The whole time. The whole time, the woman getting in and out the car, I see her tussling, damn, this bag, this bag. But she never moved the fucking bag. I found that weird. I ain't say nothing about it. I don't give a fuck, it was mine. So on the way home, I'm still noticing weird things. She stopped at Tammy's house first. This the third thing was strange. She picked the bag up, the day is over with, now she moves the bag, put the bag in the trunk. She gets out of blankets, she puts the blankets on top of Tammy. That's when the hoe got the money. And we ain't split no money like you said in the back. I think they all had something to do with it. If I'm gonna steal from it, I'm gonna get it all. And that's what I get. And there you go.
She said, "I'm gonna take it." And I ain't mad at that.
I'm not mad at that because I said, what thief gonna take some money and pretend? But at the same time, like I said, the reason why I'm thinking all three in cahoots because somebody had to see something. You just said you was looking out the window, but the bottom line— I just told you what I saw. That was real. She got a blanket and put on top of you. The trip was over with. You was home. Why put the blanket on you then? And she was trying to get me to go upstairs.
Ron, are you telling my producers that Tammy was impaired during the trip?
We all were impaired. Everybody was doing their thing. Everybody. Everybody. I passed out right after we ate the chicken sandwich. Okay, okay. And I didn't wake up no more until I was woke up to get $20. And when y'all got out the car, and I don't even remember y'all getting out the car.
So Rhonda, did you ever notice any money on the floor of the car?
There was no money on that floor. And another thing that—
'Cause if you would've saw some money on the floor, you would've picked up the money.
I would've picked it up and I would've gave it to her.
Of course you would've.
But what I found weird, what I just heard her say in the back, When they got back to her place, the money wasn't on the floor until after they dropped me and my son off. When she called me and said, "I need you to go downstairs and see if you can see some money," I went down there. My wallet. Just to satisfy her curiosity.
Is there any chance your son took Cami's money?
Not a snowball chance in hell.
Yeah, okay then.
No.
So why did you decide that you were gonna be willing to take the lie detector test?
Because I don't have no reason to steal from her. I might beat and do a lot of shit, I'm not a thief.
I hear that.
Nothing. That's how I was raised.
Before we get to the results, Tammy's cousin Ella is in the audience. So everyone please welcome Ella to the show.
And that's her sister. Hey, sister.
That's your sister. How you doing?
That's my little sister.
So how did you first find out about all this?
Well, what happened was my cousin called me and she said, you heard about what happened in Napa? And I was like, no, what happened? And she told me the story about Tammy's money coming up missing. I said, ain't no money coming up missing, somebody stole it, period. So I was like, I was mad at Tammy in the rip, cuz for one, Tammy wasn't even supposed to be going to Chicago to get her. She was supposed to be coming to get me. So I told Tammy off top, you're blamed for your money coming up missing because you scooted me to the side for the next bitch. Yes, that's my sister, but still. And then—
Y'all so real, I love it.
I mean, I asked you, right? I love it, y'all so real. You gotta keep it real, you got to. And then I told Rhonda, I was like, you know, at first in a way I did feel like maybe you took some money or something because the way Tammy was telling me the story. You know, the back seat to go from the front to the back seat to the side, the girl with the blanket and all, I'm like, what the heck? And so I told her, Tami, I said, but you know, I really don't think she took it because Rhonda would've took it, she would've took all your shit. Thank you, thank you. And she said it. Thank you.
Yeah. How many of y'all believe that if Rhonda took it, she would've took all her shit? Okay. So that's like right there, you like, I wouldn't take all the money, okay.
Yeah.
So why did you go with everyone to the funeral? Because she decided to take, she decided to scoot you out the car?
Yeah.
Got it, okay then.
And try to put me onto another family member.
What do you think happened to the money?
Well. Tell the truth, sister. I really don't know. I really don't know. And that's why I told Tammy, I said, 'cause I'm sorry, I'm getting emotional. But I told Tammy. I told Tammy, I said, if you really wanna know what happened to your money, I said, call Karamo. She said, who the fuck is Karamo? I said, girl, Karamo will change your life, honey. I watch him every day. Thank you.
I appreciate you putting her on game.
Thank you. You know how I am now.
I appreciate that. Well, I think it's time to get to the Thank you. My lie detector investigator asked Rhonda 2 questions. Here we go. The first question was, Rhonda, did you steal the money from Tammy? You said no. And Rhonda is telling the truth. The second question is, Rhonda, do you know who stole Tammy's money? You said no, and Rhonda is telling the truth. How are you?
I'm okay.
Well, listen, what happened on your birthday?
I'm gonna tell you what happened. Okay, please. I'm gonna tell you what happened. Okay, on my birthday, so my boyfriend and his dad His brother was going for a ride, right? So they seen this girl outside walking. So he's talking about she needed to jump. She needed to jump, all right. He jumped right in her. Yes. And came home to— I can't wait. They got me going already. All right.
I love you already. First of all, I'm not laughing at the situation, I'm laughing at delivery. But because my real reaction to him doing that is I'm gonna cuss you out. Like, how dare you on my birthday do something that disrespectful? Do you think he's still talking to the girl?
I'm not sure.
Okay.
I'm not sure, but I know I came home, I was at work, he left a note on the table talking about, babe, I'm going to help my brother, I'll be back. So the whole day went by, no Jaleek. The next day, no Jaleek. So a week passed, still no Jaleek. So my birthday was on that Thursday, so he called out Wednesday talking about, "I'm just calling to tell you happy birth— early birthday. Do you wanna see me?" I said, "No, stay where you at." So he came home, he came home, so we got into it.
Do you think he is still talking to her again?
Probably so, probably so.
Okay then.
Probably so.
Okay.
Probably so.
'Cause one of my producers backstage told me that she's pregnant.
Yeah, so she say she's pregnant. So I get a phone call, right? No caller ID, so I know nobody never calls me private. So I'm looking at him, it gotta be her, it gotta be her. So I answer the phone, I say, hello. She start going off talking about just, she says, that's why I'm pregnant from your man, something that you cannot have.
Something you can't have? Yeah. Get dirty with it.
Yeah, 'cause I was so upset. So he be pillow talking. So he had to tell her that I couldn't have babies.
So, you know, I'm always, I try to be fair on this show. So I'm gonna wait till I hear his side of the story to judge. But from what you're telling me, the disrespect of not only are you talking to another woman, but as well, you're talking about my intimate personal stuff.
Right.
Like it's the levels for me.
Right.
Yeah, okay. So you said he's younger. What's the age difference between you two?
You? Oh, he's 23 and I'm 47. What? No, you—
y'all remember a year— y'all remember a year ago when we was like, we just listen, we don't judge? No, girl, we all judging that. No, girl, we are judging that. We are judging that.
He is so— he was so mature for his age though. You would never think he was 23.
23-year-old mature for what age? For what age at 47?
The bed.
The bed.
I knew it.
I knew it. Okay, so tell me, how did you, how did you meet Jaleek?
Okay, I met him when I first came back home, cuz I was originally living in Florida, so I moved back to South Carolina. So he was flirting with me.
I bet he was. You fine, girl. But thank you.
I know he was vibing everything Everything was good. So initially he told me that he did have a girlfriend, but it was rocky 'cause they barely see each other. So I was like, okay, so once y'all break it off meant we could hook up. So he did that, we hooked up, he moved in instantly.
Got it, got it. And how long y'all been together since?
9 months.
9 months. So it's been 9 months.
Yes.
So within that 9 months, he broke up with a girl, Y'all got together and moved in. Then he disrespected you by not being with you on your birthday. And now y'all on the Karamo Show?
Yes. And then I had to wake up.
That's a timeline, okay?
It is.
That's a timeline.
It's a lot. It's a lot.
You said you woke up what?
And then I had to wake up to my tires slashed.
The girl slashed your tires?
Yeah, so apparently when I'm at work, ass in my butt paying all these bills, something that he don't do 'cause he just got a job 2 weeks ago. My tire is slashed 'cause he bringing a girl to my house while I'm at work.
Did he confess? Did she confess? How did you find out? You got a Ring cam? What you got? How did you know that she slashed the tire? Okay, I didn't know.
She finally confessed and said that it was her and that she was gonna pay me back, but never did. And by him living with me, I would think that he would help me get my tires fixed, but he didn't.
And so you say he doesn't contribute to the household at all?
At all.
At all.
At all. His first check was $200. Guess how much he offered me out of it? You better say $200. $29, y'all. $29. How you gonna sit right here and tell these people all these lies and stuff like that? Why you keep on pumping? How you gonna say I only gave you $29? And when I go out there and I hustle and I make sure that I get money for what you need.
How much did you give her? I ain't give her no $29.
What you gave me, Jaleek?
$50.
He gave me $50 after I threw the $29 back.
I'm laughing because you made it seem like you about to come out with a bigger number.
No, no, no.
The number won't even be big. $200 is not big. I understand. But if you're saying that for you, that I'm not going to disrespect your hustle. And if that's right now where you're at in your life and that is a lot of money to you, I understand that. I was 23 before, so I get that. That's, you know, take a seat for me, Jaleek. So, but outside of the money, because I understand, like I said, I can give you the courtesy of saying I'm 23, giving you $50 right now might be the most that I can do while supporting myself. But I can't give you a pass on her birthday from what she said. So give me your perspective. Okay, so we was, I say 2 weeks prior to her birthday, we was getting in arguments, fussing nonstop, nagging. Aggravation. So I left. And when I left, no contact from her. She haven't called me, nothing like that. So, you know what I'm saying? Yes, I was with somebody else on her birthday. She knows that. I admitted to that. I own it up to that. I was. So wouldn't that make sense of why she is feeling the insecurity? Because if you're owning up to being with somebody on her birthday. But the thing about it is she started all of this. She the one started cheating and stuff. Getting cash outs from dudes.
Oh my God, Jaleel.
All this $30 checks. People cash out her $30 every day. She ain't tell y'all all that, but she want my money and his money. You know what I'm saying? You trying to come up. Oh, okay then. Are you having a baby with the other girl from what she said? No, all those are lies. These girls just want me. You know what I'm saying?
They just want me. Everybody want you.
Listen to me. Come on, Confidence. I ain't mad at it, okay?
I'm listening.
I ain't mad at it. He said they want me. Listen. He got you, so listen, he can't be lying, right? No shade, so.
No shade.
So how you think the relationship is going from your perspective then? It's rocky. I mean, it could be, it be sometimes it's rocky, sometimes it's stable, but mostly rocky because it's always arguments and stuff. And you know, she calls me names. Yeah. Bitches and all that. A man, she call a man, me. Yeah. A bitch. Yeah.
Y'all know why I call him that? Why? Because he acts like a little bitch. I'm the man in the relationship because I have to pay all the bills, the rent, the car note, the insurance, the light bill. It's like I'm taking care of my child. You gotta buy your clothes. Karamo. Buy his clothes.
Hold on, my producers are telling me that you made a list of things that you used to think were good in the relationship. You wrote this?
Yeah.
Oh, okay. Things that she used to do. She used to make me breakfast. She used to smile at me. She used to be nice to me. She used to wash my clothes. She used to bring me what I needed from the store before she came home from work. She never used to leave home that much. She never used to yell at me. She never used to blame me for anything.
See, that's a child. Only a child would write something like that. Only a child.
So do you think she's cheating on you? Of course. Will you stay with her if we find anything in her phone? If y'all find anything? Yeah, if we find anything in her phone, are you gonna stay? If it's red, it's dead. If it's green, it's good. Okay. So I mean. So yeah, I got it. If it's red, it's dead. We understood that one. If it's green, it's dead.
If that's the case, you should've been dead. I should've been left your ass. All that shit you been doing to me.
All that shit you been doing to me.
You the one started all this shit.
You started all this for me. And how did she start it? One more time. I just wanna be clear. When we first started talking, she was texting other guys, getting cash outs from other guys, but taking my last little bit of money 'cause I had a job way before this. But let me be clear 'cause you said she started, but what did you do? What she shared, and I wanna get confirmation from you, is that when you all started talking, you were in another relationship, but you were still trying to get with her. And I broke that off to get with her. But you were in one while trying to talk to her. But I told her that. But you were in one. Right. Okay, just wanted to make sure.
Right.
All right, it's time to unlock the phone. All right, Jaleek, it's time to unlock your phone. Oh, well, we did not unlock your phone because Tasha says you smashed it.
Before we came to the show, because he knew he was cheating. He didn't want y'all to find out. She smashed my own phone.
So she smashed it?
She smashed it. Okay.
'Cause compulsive lying.
Okay, why would I smash it?
Have you ever smashed any of his phone before?
Never.
Never. So why do you think she's smashing all these phones? Because if she complained about money, why should we smash a phone and then buy another one? Because she don't care, 'cause she ain't gonna have to buy me no phone. Mm-hmm. She don't really do nothing for me no more. So then who smashed the phone 2 days ago? 2 days ago? That phone was already broke up. She crazy. Okay, okay. So we have no evidence to see what you were doing though.
But I don't do nothing for you though, huh? But you live in my house where I pay all the bills at.
You don't pay all the bills.
I pay all the bills. What you pay, Jaleek? Let me tell you. Internet, which is $50. Guess what he do when he get mad?
What?
Take the internet box and leave with his little 2 t-shirts that I bought.
Okay, okay.
Like, really? I do everything for you. Whatever.
All right, well listen, we understand now that we can't see what you've done in your phone, so there's no transparency on that side. We only have to go off the history, which is that you've cheated in the past, you've admitted to it, there's possibly a woman who has gotten pregnant and also the fact that you said this woman slashed her tires. There is no woman that's pregnant. I know, we said potentially. Okay. Yeah, but okay. So I'm just stating the facts 'cause we don't got, we couldn't unlock your phone so I don't have transparency. But Tasha, we unlocked your phone.
Yeah.
All right. Jalik, you wanna know if Tasha has any photos of other men. Tasha says she does not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her photos and found that Tasha is telling the truth. That's one. Jaleek, you wanna know if Tasha has been sending or receiving money from men through apps on her phone. Tasha says she's not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her apps and found that Tasha is not telling the truth. See, see, see what I'm talking about. Tasha had 86 transactions with another man receiving a total of $2,182.
Okay, that's who he talking about.
That's who he talking about.
Come on though, but look though, you want my money and his money. You get what I'm saying though?
Look at all that money this man done sent you.
That's old.
Look at all this money this man done sent you.
Okay, but you know about that. That's old.
Yeah, it's old, but still though, look.
Okay, that's old.
When was the last transaction? How old? Probably last week.
He sent me $20 'cause I needed gas. That was like, uh—
Okay, so my investigator is telling me right now the last transaction was August 31st.
Yeah, no, that's not true.
That's true. Yeah, August 31st was the last transaction. We don't make stuff up on here, so we always gotta make sure, you know. So, August 31st.
Well, how much was it, $20?
I don't know the amount.
Yeah, that's probably when, yeah, yeah. That's it. He know about that shit. That's nobody.
All right, well, um, "Jalik, you wanna know Tasha has been texting other men." Tasha says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched the texts and found that Tasha is not telling the truth. My investigator found a delete text from another man from 2 days ago, including a video she took from the airport.
No, he did that. He deleted that.
No, I didn't.
Yes, you did delete it.
Let me see this video. I never even seen these text messages right here. She said, "Catching a flight." And then she wanted me to post this.
I love when people say, "Oh," and they smile.
You didn't know we was gonna catch that one.
I know who, that's nothing.
But you didn't know that we was gonna catch that one. Hold on, the money ain't nothing, that ain't nothing.
That's nothing.
It's a lot of nothing. So you was in the bathroom, airport bathroom, just trying to show, what are you showing?
Okay, ask him, has I ever slept with anybody since I've been with him though? No, the answer is no.
No. But you sitting right here entertaining, you won't entertain?
Yeah.
Okay. She want that much attention. So what we know is clear is that you two are unhappy. There is 9 months, and no, you cannot say y'all not unhappy. Don't even sit here and look and think. There is not enough that measures out in this relationship for 9 months that where the happiness outweighs the stress, the disrespect, and the fact that neither of you are compatible. Y'all got together because, 'cause you saw she was attracted, you wanted a lung, your little cute little piece to have fun with. And all of a sudden y'all turned into something bigger than it should have been. This relationship should have stayed where it was that night. And I'll be real with you because at this point right now, there's things that you need to learn about relationships. And that's why I was trying to point out what you were doing with the other woman. Because if she was sitting on this stage, she would have the same complaints about you that you're having about her. She would feel disrespected. She'd feel like maybe he didn't do stuff for me. So I want you to challenge yourself as a young man to know that you can be better as a man. You can get into relationships where you actually can provide, you can help, where you can communicate honestly about what you want. I don't think you're there yet. And for you, Tasha, let's be real. You need to be someone's baby and not someone's babysitter. So go ahead, just go ahead, break this out and allow yourselves to have some type of respect and friendship by being honest and saying we don't belong together. Y'all wanna start that right here? You don't wanna tell her? You just said if we find something in the phone, it's dead. Man is dead. So you wanna say to her, hey, we don't belong together. We don't belong together. But I wish you the best of luck. I wish you the best in life and everything. And what I'm gonna say to you is, hey, it was fun. Come on, it was fun.
It was fun.
It was fun. Yeah, y'all caught that, right? You don't wanna let her go. Okay, well I'm gonna try it with you. You said it's fun?
It was fun.
It was fun, but you need time to grow.
Yeah, but you need time to grow.
There we go. Girl, take my advice, okay?
Okay.
Please, please. I do this for a living for a reason. I really wanna help you to have the best life possible, all right?
Okay.
I wish y'all the both best of luck, all right? Everyone at home, stay with us, friends. We'll be right back with more.
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