I Found Encrypted Messages On Her Phone! | KARAMO

So tell me, what are you smelling on your girlfriend that lets you know that she's cheating?

Uh.

Is it a men's cologne?

No, sir. It's like—

Is it food?

No, it's like fresh shit. Like an odor smell, like of fresh condoms.

She smell like fresh condoms?

Yes, sir.

What?

Okay. I've never heard that one before. So when did you first start to suspect?

About a year and a half ago.

Mm-hmm.

She had me take her somewhere and she came back outside with her pants unbuttoned. Mm.

And how long have you and Shy been together?

Like 2 and a half years.

2 and a half years, okay. So this is a deep relationship.

Yes, sir.

Okay, so why do you think she lies about getting her hair done?

She actually don't lie about getting her hair done, but she does something else when she gets her hair done.

Oh.

Yes, sir.

So you think when she's there, she's finding time to have sex with somebody else?

Yes, because she don't go to a hairdresser, like she go to someone house. And I have someone else.

That's pretty normal, come on. Like people go to people house to get their hair done.

Yeah.

Get their hair braided, that's, you know, get put their weave in. That's not something that's uncommon.

But it's not normal for her to get back in the car smelling like shit after she got her hair did.

Got it, okay then. What kind of things have you found on Shy's phone?

She got an end-to-end encrypted message where you have to generate codes to see the message. And I saw in her phone secret conversations with my homeboys and my customers. And it's just wild. And it's like—

So what do you see her talking to your customers about?

I didn't see anything.

Because it was encrypted?

Yes. I just saw it said secret conversation.

Got it. Okay, got it. And that's why you here, 'cause you know we gonna be able to find it.

Yeah.

Okay. So do you think she's giving money to other guys?

Okay, it's like I gave her some money and then someone came and spent the same amount in my shop. Like, I seen the pattern. It happened multiple times. The same exact amount that I just gave you, someone came and spent it with me. So it's kind of weird.

It's, you know, like, I'm not discrediting your story, but like some of the claims seem a little bit like it could be paranoia. Have you ever had paranoia in relationships before?

Yes, my last relationship.

There was paranoia?

And I—

Did the paranoia lead to it being true?

Yes.

Okay.

And I, see, I took it upon myself and I started having sex with another female and I brought her to the house and—

So your paranoia led you to cheat?

Yes. And so, and so—

That don't make sense, okay? But I hear you.

And so I end up breaking up with my ex and I got with Shy.

Got it. Okay. So you weren't fully healed?

Right.

Got it. Okay. And so what it also sounds like, if you broke up with your ex and got with Shy, that means the foundation wasn't solid.

Right.

Okay. Do you and Shy live together right now?

Yes, sir.

You do live together.

Okay.

Do you think she's letting people in the house at nighttime?

Or in daytime? Nah, she wait till I'm asleep. And I've heard things in my sleep, but I just be so tired and I can't get up on time to just—

You think your girl cheating and you can't get up? Ain't no way I'm in bed, right? Ain't no way I'm in bed and I think you cheating and I'm gonna be like, let me sleep through this.

Well, I'm gonna get up and I'm gonna go see what is going on.

But guess what? I be so tired. I work a lot and And I've heard things in the house. I've heard someone scream before and the door close and she wasn't in the bed.

And you didn't get up at that point?

I couldn't, I was asleep. It's just like, you know, you hear something when you sleep. Yeah.

Okay, I need you to raise your hand if you heard the door close and somebody scream, are you getting up? Raise your hand if you are. Thank you. You see, we all getting up. We all getting up.

But it's not easy to do when you sleep. You can say that.

Okay, okay.

But—

Okay. Have you ever confronted Shy about these suspicions?

Yes. She denies it all the time.

She denies it all the time. Okay then. Well, I think it's time to hear from Shy and hear what she has to say about all this. Everyone, please welcome Shy to the show.

Jeff, no, he's a liar.

Okay.

A liar. A liar.

She said that 3 times in case you didn't know.

A liar.

Okay, a 4th time now. Okay, so what do you have to say about these accusations other than he's lying?

Jeff is hurt from his past.

Okay, he is using that.

I never came back to no car smelling like no condom.

That is a lie.

That's a lie. He's a compulsive liar.

Okay.

That's a lie.

He's hurt from his past.

I know for a fact, I know what I smell.

And I'm here to say that. Literally. My nose runnin'. Then, like, literally.

Okay. My nose works.

Your nose works?

Yes. Okay.

How did you first find out that Jeff was accusing you of cheating?

Jeff goes to tell everybody in the world but me. He's never confronted me. He's just lied to y'all. He's never confronted me.

She never confronted me.

He goes to outsiders.

And she—

He never came to me face to face as a man and say, are you cheating?

She did that.

He goes to everybody else.

Of course I said something to somebody else too.

You don't— have you ever said something to me though?

Yes.

Lie.

You another one.

Lie again.

You another one.

So why would you not, if she's saying, why you didn't come to me? And you're saying, I do go to other people. Why wouldn't you just keep other people out of it and just keep it between you two?

You right. Homeboys, let's do it. Uh-huh. Let's do it. Come on now, Jeff, answer the question.

I do.

Yeah.

So you sitting here in front of all these folks lying, telling me that you came to me saying that I—

Yes, and you denied it.

When?

What day? Multiple times.

What day?

Multiple times.

I got a living witness that will tell you that Jeff is a liar.

Got it, okay.

Jeff has paranoia.

Uh-huh.

Come on now, if somebody in my house at night, Jeff gonna get up. Jeff is a liar, literally.

That's another lie.

I mean, that didn't make sense to us either.

That's what I'm saying. If you hear your door open at night, come on now, and me and Jeff go to sleep at the same time, We sleep just like this every night. Literally. Sometimes he go to sleep before me. Look at y'all, big compulsive liar. He's a liar.

Why does Jeff think you smell like sex though?

'Cause Jeff is a compulsive liar. He just lie about anything. He thinks somebody his ex-girlfriend because his ex-girlfriend pop—

I know what I smell.

Is you gonna let me talk? Be quiet.

I know what I smell.

Let me talk.

My nose work good.

Jeff's ex-girlfriend used to have, she used to go have sex while she had hair appointments. Jeff comes in my hair appointments with me, and I have living proof.

I got proof. So your ex did that behavior?

Yeah.

So that's why he think it's me. Jeff come in Walmart with me. Jeff go to my hair appointments with me. Jeff goes when to get me everywhere because guess what?

He already know we do not be together.

Stop lying, Jeff. Don't lie. Don't lie.

He also said you're giving money to different men. Are you giving money to men?

What year? When? When?

That's a lie. Hell no, that's a lie.

Yeah.

That is a lie.

Yes.

Lie! Clearly.

She funny.

Why would I ask you for some money and give another— and give somebody else the same? Man, Jeff, now you know you damn— for real, for real.

So let me just ask you, have you ever cheated on Jeff?

Never.

Never cheated on Jeff?

Never. Listen. I left Jeff, listen, let me talk. I'm gonna get mad, I'm gonna punch you, I swear to God. I left my baby father for Jeff.

Got it.

I was 200 pounds before I met Jeff. I'm 100 pounds.

Got it.

I lost weight because of Jeff. I love Jeff. And I'm here today to let Jeff know that I want Jeff. I don't want everybody else in our business. And I'm not a cheater.

Got it.

I've never cheated on him.

Okay.

Literally. Yes.

Do you suspect him of cheating?

I know.

You know he is?

Yes. At nights when he be saying he be so-called asleep, he'll leave his phone on his face with the TikTok. So I get the phone, I'm going through, I go to the Instagram just like I told the private investigators to go to that Instagram. Jeff is a sweatbox. Jeff wants to— Literally.

So you're engaging with girls in your DMs?

No.

Yes! I got—

Okay.

I have, but not multiple.

Well, we have one of the messages you found on Jeff's phone.

Yes!

It says, what you doing laying down? Oh, me too, can I come?

Gross! She's ugly as hell! She's ugly!

So you wrote this?

Literally, okay.

Yes, sir, I ain't gonna lie, I wrote it.

And if you—

No, no, no, no. So you did, so you did, you do talk to girls in your DMs?

Multiple!

No, this was one time.

My 4-year-old child had pneumonia. He's telling her he in the hospital with her. In the hospital with me and she knows that he have a whole old lady. These women know. They know, they know.

So you told the woman you were talking to that you were in the hospital with her child?

Did you scroll down?

Yes, sir.

If you scroll down on this message, you will see, in the hospital with my stepson. Why? Why are you even telling her? She know that you have an old lady. So, if y'all see the picture, She look like a dog.

Jeff, why you laughing at that? We just found out you cheating.

I don't got no proof of her, but she got a little proof of me.

That's a lot of proof.

Not necessarily.

Yes, it is, it's multiple. Come on, multiple, Jeff.

So clearly, Jeff, if you're going after women, you're not happy.

That's what I'm saying.

You're not happy.

You're not. I'm 24 years old now. Out of the whole relationship, I've been stressed, literally buying cars that Jeff— Jeff swears he's a mechanic. He went to school for a mechanic, but I think he went to school for a front end only. Because if you know, who would buy a car that had 200,000 miles on it? We drove 6 days in it. 6 days! That's a lie. 6!

And guess what? We drove the car 6 months.

Pause. The car jumped time. I get it. Jeff gave me $150 on a transmission that cost $850.

Mm, okay. Well listen, one thing I know is that you just said that you're happy and we do have proof that you have cheated in the past.

Right.

But we're here to show—

No, no, this is recent. That's not in the past.

How long ago was this?

Look at it.

It said yesterday, but I, was that really yesterday?

No, sir.

No, I'm— no, that's the screenshot from yesterday. This is recent this month.

As this month, okay. Well listen, I think it's time to unlock the phone.

Oh my God, you scared me. Yeah, look at her. You just saw that?

Yeah.

I ain't even scared.

All right, Shai, we unlocked your phone. Jeff, you wanna know if Shai is communicating with any other men?

Right.

She says she is not. My Locked Phone Investigator searched her calls and found that Shai is not telling the truth. We found 3 calls from 2 months ago with a man saved in her contacts as Rich Man.

Yes, he knows about that.

You know about Rich Man?

I heard about it.

A man I met on TikTok and he sent me money on Apple Pay.

Why would you need another man to send you money?

You knew about it. You told me to tell him to send it. Don't lie.

That ain't making sense.

Don't lie.

That still ain't making sense.

Don't lie.

Did you tell her to send it?

No. So you didn't tell me to— come on now, Jeff.

She told me about it.

She told me.

I showed you, right? I showed you. But come on now, Jeff.

But I didn't tell her to do it.

Please, please don't lie.

Why would I tell you to get money from other men when I got money?

Please don't lie.

That ain't making sense.

You got money, Jeff, but I got to pay $850 on transmission. You paid $150. Stop lying to these folks.

Okay, listen, Jeff, you wanna know if Shai is messaging any men on social media. She says she is not. Monetaphone investigators searched her DMs and found that Shai is not telling the truth. There were 366 messages between Shai and multiple men discussing payment for explicit videos and photos.

Oh, it's content. He knows about that.

You know about that?

Yeah.

Sending content.

Got it. So you know about that?

Yeah.

Great, okay. Jeff, you wanna know if Shai is texting any other men. Shai says she's not. My Lock the Phone investigator searched her texts and found that Shai is not telling the truth. There were 774 sexually explicit interactions, including 200 deleted messages between Shai and Richman as recently as 2 weeks ago. But it sounds like this is content and you're fully aware of all this.

Yes.

Oh, I wanna see that ass and blank. Gotta pay.

Okay.

Yes. Gotta get my iPad fixed. Yes.

Okay.

So you know about this?

Some of it.

Well, it sounds like you know about all of it.

Yeah, Jeff, stop lying. You do know about the content. I gotta sell it because you can't help me with no money. Jeff knows I be on TikTok selling content. I be on Facebook selling content. Jeff not slow. He don't see, he better not sit here and say no lie like he don't know.

So Jeff, it sounds like you got into a situation with a woman who was upfront with you about the content that she was selling.

He been there.

And then it triggered your insecurities because of your past relationships.

Kind of, sort of.

And so—

That's all I'm saying.

I don't think it's kind of, sort of. It sounds exactly that's what it is. Because if she— what we're hearing directly is every time she says you knew, you understand what's going on.

Hey, come on now.

You say you fucking did. But then you think that something else is happening.

And it's not.

When we found out that you actually are not someone who's selling content, you actually are just being duplicitous. But so let's find out exactly what else is going on in your phone. 'Cause Jeff, we unlocked your phone. You ready?

I don't think you ready.

Well, actually, we did not. Jeff refused to unlock his phone. So why? So why not the transparency?

Because it's not about me; it's about her. I came here to find out about her. She already found out something about me.

No, no!

I came out to find out about her.

Oh my God! He didn't unlock the phone because of that Instagram.

So what I think is that you need to do some. You need to get over this paranoia. You need to go over the insecurities that this other relationship is causing you.

Paranoia? Because any real man, if you hear something in your house, you're gonna get up.

What I realize is that you have to work on your paranoia. You have to work on your insecurities. And then for you to realize that you're already in an independent relationship. You already said you're taking care of your finances. You already said you're doing everything by yourself. So I want you to take all of this in because he said 15 minutes ago, I am unhappy in this.

Yes. I'm happy too. That's the reason why. Do you actually think if I was doing something, I would've came on this show to embarrass myself? I already knew that he didn't give them the code to the phone.

So what choice are you gonna make then?

What you mean?

Because if you already know that he wasn't gonna give us the phone, you already know he can't give you transparency. And if you already know he's gonna continue to accuse you, are you gonna continue to stay in this?

Oh no, pause. So did you?

I have personal things in my phone.

Uh-uh, pause, pause.

About my business.

No, stop. No, they not going through that. That ain't got nothing to do with that. That's somebody's Instagram. The Instagram. Just admit it. Admit it.

I admit that.

No, we talking about dating too.

Listen, all I know is Jeff sleep through everything, but this your wake-up call, girl. So either you stay or you go. This is all I know, all right? So the choice is yours right now. You're not giving her transparency. You have to make the decision. So this is gonna be, you're young, he's older than you, so you at some point you gonna have to say, Is this what a healthy relationship is? And if it's not for you, which I don't believe it is, I think you need to move on. And then while she's moving on, you need to do some healing.

Right.

I'm glad that you could be transparent. I wish that you could have been, but I wish you both the best of luck, all right?