I Got Another Woman Pregnant Because Your Tubes Are Tied! | KARAMO

You said to her you wish that the 3 of y'all can raise this child together? It's okay. You wanna co— come on now. I'm not even smiling with you, brother, because you trifling. You are trifling all the way through. I can see the emotions already. This is hard for you.

Yeah, it is.

Yeah, yeah.

Very hard.

So when did the problems start between you and your husband?

It started 6 months ago when I first met him. Everything was so perfectly fine, you know? He was so romantic to me. So just so loving, you know? He had that smile, you know? And, you know, he had the bedroom eyes. I fell for that too. You know, that was, he was, it just something about him. Yeah, it felt good.

So you've been together for how long now?

I say about 5 years.

But you got together and then within like 6 months y'all got married?

Yes, about 6 months.

6 months. Wow, okay. So y'all knew it was love quickly.

Oh yes, love at first sight.

So my producer told me that he accused you of cheating with a coworker.

Oh yes, it was just a friendly conversation. And I admit I was being flirtatious, but it was just, you know, it was nothing bad. He accused me of just like sleeping with him and—

How does that make you feel with him accusing you?

It just made me feel worthless as a person.

What made you decide to separate?

He brought a woman into our house. She was a prostitute.

She was a prostitute?

Yes, a prostitute.

Is that a confirm— like she actually was a sex worker or you just assumed?

Would go online and find men and just call 'em and bring 'em into our home.

And when did you get back together?

A month after.

Why did you get back together?

You know, I wanna make my marriage work. I just wanna make my marriage work. You know, I don't like failed marriages at all.

You don't like failed marriages. Have you ever been married before?

No, this is my first marriage. And you want it to be your last? Yes, I want it to be my last.

Mm-hmm, okay. How did you find out that he had another girl pregnant?

He just came out and told me.

Got it.

I was just—

And y'all weren't separated at this time?

Oh, we were separated.

You were separated?

Oh yes.

How long were you separated?

For probably for like 2, 3 months.

So in 2, 3 months he got—

He did, yeah.

Another woman pregnant?

Oh, he sure did.

You're not sure if you believe that though?

I don't believe that at all. I don't know if it's just rumors.

So why don't you believe it?

I just don't, I just don't.

What does he say?

He tells me that he got her pregnant, but I don't believe it. There's no proof.

Did you two want children together?

No. You don't want any? Mm-mm, I don't want any.

I understand.

No.

And why don't you have a job right now, my producer?

He won't let me have no job.

Okay.

No job, can't have no friends, nothing, no phone.

No phone?

No phone.

Why won't you be able to have a phone?

'Cause he thinks that I'm gonna cheat on my phone.

Got it.

Yes. Yes, I deleted all my social media, everything.

So is he allowed to have a phone?

He has, he has a phone. He has social media, he has everything on his phone.

Have you ever confronted him about your feelings?

I tried doing that.

And what did he say?

He breaks me down. I get yelled at.

Uh-huh.

Get talked to any type of way. He tells me I'm worthless, I'm nothing.

How often does he do that?

Every day. Every day.

Okay.

Yeah.

And you wanted me to unlock his phone?

Yes.

What are you hoping that I'll find in the phone?

I'm just hoping, I'm praying that he's not cheating on me. Mm-hmm. I'm just praying.

'Cause if you find out he's cheating on you, are you gonna stay?

If he's— mm-mm.

Yeah.

No. 'Cause I don't deserve this at all. I do not deserve this. I am a woman. At the end of the day, I'm a woman.

You don't deserve this.

I don't. I don't deserve none of

this. Yeah. Here you go, love.

Thank you.

You're welcome. All right, well listen everyone, I wanna meet your husband. So everyone, please help me welcome Christina's husband, Mike, to the show.

Lies.

We don't know his side.

Whatever, whatever.

Lies.

Man, whatever. All right.

So you heard what happened here. So how do you feel about what you just heard?

Oh, I was never, I'm not controlling at all. I just control the relationship.

He lying. He is controlling.

So you said you're not controlling, but you just control the relationship? Okay, since you say you don't control her, what do you do to control the relationship?

Well, control the relationship, I do things like keep the phone away from her. You know, I might check emails.

Hold on, there's something else I wanna say. He came up to my job and he broke somebody's window.

You broke somebody's window at the job?

Yes, he did. He came up—

That's true.

Okay, why did you break their window?

Because I didn't know if that was the guy's car she was hanging out with or what was the case,

so— It was a woman, not a man.

I got angry. Outta anger, I just, I took a brick and shattered the first wall.

So do you think this behavior's okay?

Kind of, I feel like, as a man point of view, I'm a man of the house, it's my rules. I think I should, you know.

It's not okay.

When did this controlling behavior of the relationship start?

Immediately within the first 2 months of the relationship, I made her delete her Instagram 'cause I was seeing notifications. I say, well, actually, how you have social media and we in a relationship? That's not allowed. You're 34 years old?

You're 24 years old, right? So you're young and you know that social media's a part of our culture now. So for you to say she has to delete it, I don't understand why.

But it's unfair.

Are you allowed to have social media?

I deleted mine, but then I started back getting on social media.

Tell me from your perspective, how did you meet your wife and what was it like?

Okay, when I first met her, I fell in love right away. So I ended up spending the night with her, I believe. The second day she goes to work and calls me like, I'm really in love with you. I think I'm ready to settle down. I wanna marry you. Actually like proposed to me. So I immediately says, yes, I'm feeling the same way. Well, let's do this.

And then it was 6 months from that point y'all got married?

Nah, it took like 3 months. We got married right away.

3 months it took to get married? Yeah. So you got married within 3 months? Yes. And on the second date you said, I'm ready for it, and you agreed to it?

We agreed.

Okay, do you feel like you rushed into this?

We rushed, but I think it was like I didn't wanna wait and she didn't wanna wait.

Okay. Have you two talked about having your own children?

No, 'cause she couldn't have kids. She told me that.

Oh,

okay. She couldn't have kids. Couldn't have children.

So you couldn't have children. So you knew that she couldn't have children. Is wanting a family something you wanted?

Actually, I wanted to start a family at my age. I didn't wanna get too older where I'm like, no kids. So I just wanted something at that. I met her at 29.

Got it. And so you know that she can't have kids, but you want a kid. So why rush into a marriage with a woman who says she can't have kids if you know you want kids?

Right.

'Cause it was like, I really love, I love, I fell in love with her and she was telling me she loved me and she's ready to get married.

You

don't. I wanna know back, 'cause you said, you know, that you just control the relationship. What do you think a man's role is in a marriage?

To provide for the woman, protect her safety, make sure she's okay. You know, no infidelity in the relationship, things like that.

Okay, so why did you move another woman into your house without her permission then? Do you think that keeps her safe?

Yes and no.

Okay, does that also, does that lead to the infidelity?

It could be.

From your words of what you said a role of a man should be in a relationship, you're kind of breaking them just even by just moving that woman in.

Yeah.

Okay. Why did you separate?

Okay, so the roommate, she's saying she didn't want another woman in the house. I thought we had already agreed that I was gonna bring in the roommate.

No, we didn't agree to that.

So did you agree to it?

No, I didn't agree to that. Uh-huh. I never wanted her in my house in the first place 'cause she was no good.

So then why does he think that? Did she tell you that you could have the roommate?

Well, we had a— we interviewed a few roommates.

So there was a conversation about bringing someone in. Yeah. It's just that you didn't decide, you didn't have a mutual agreement and he just decided to pick one.

He just picked one.

Okay. Have you been cheating on her since you got back together 6 months ago?

Not at all.

Not at all?

I don't know that.

Not at all.

So you're accusing her of cheating, but you won't let her have a phone. So we couldn't unlock her phone to find out if she was or not.

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. The interesting part is that my producers gave her a phone so that she could contact us just while y'all were here so we could get in contact about the story and bring you in to talk to you all. And you flipped out about that. Why did you flip out about that?

Yes. No, I was a little surprised about having a phone. I said, it's a cell phone, where did you get it? She said, the producers gave me the phone just to keep in contact. Kinda went left.

And then he got mad at me 'cause he thought I had the wifi on and it was never on.

So you can't even have the wifi on?

Yeah, I seen like wifi signals on the phone. I didn't know whether she was on social media or what was the case.

Hmm, okay. All right, well listen, the thing is that you have a lot of questions, Christina. About what's going on with him and you wanted me to unlock his phone.

Yes, I do.

All right. You wanted to know if he was still in communication with women that he was with while you were separated.

Yes. Oh, and then there's another, that he got another woman pregnant.

Oh, got it. Yes. Okay. All right, well listen, we have the unlock the phone results right here. This is what was in your phone. So it's time, it's time to unlock the phone. All right, so, Christina, we went through texts, phone apps on Mike's phone. Christina, you wanted to know if Mike was still communicating with the woman he was with while you were separated. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his texts and he is telling the truth. Whoo! All right, my Unlock the Phone investigator then checked his phone because Mike told you that he deleted her information and was not in contact with her anymore. Mike is telling the truth. He has deleted her contact information. But then my Unlock the Phone investigators searched his apps and we found 2 very interesting items.

Wow. Let me see.

On September 13th, he messaged and FaceTime called with someone on a dating app who he asked to meet up with.

Ooh, let me see.

Then there was evidence So this is the big one for me because when you ask about if he's in communication with her, yes, he said he's not texting. Yes, he deleted the thing. But then I asked my producers to ask you specifically, is there any way we could get in touch with her? And you said, yeah, I can get in touch with her. And then you went through your Cash App to contact her, which then we then saw that you were still able to contact her through Cash App.

Wow. Wow.

Because if you were not communicating with her at all, you would not have been able to.

Really?

That was the only communication.

Whatever. But

the point is not that it's the only communication. You said that you were not having any communication and we were able to see. Christina, what do you think about all of this and what do you wanna say?

What I wanna say, this is dirty. I knew it. My intuition was right. You've been talking to her. I asked you many a time, have you been talking to her? You said you deleted her number.

She blocked me.

I don't care. Blocking, it don't matter. You still talking to the girl. So basically you still have communication with her. Since we've been back together? Really? Don't.

Well, hold on. My producers are telling me right now that Mike, you had a confession that you also wanted to share.

Oh, oh really? What is it?

Christina, I got a confession to make about the girl I got pregnant. I actually got her pregnant on purpose. The reason why I got her pregnant is because you can't have kids, you got your tubes tied. And I wanted to start a family, so I figured that'd be the best option for me. You couldn't gimme one, so I had to find someone else. And I'm hoping that the 3 of us can come together and learn to co-parent together.

Oh, this is— Karamo, this is—

I'm gonna tell you something, man. I'm gonna come out a little bit outta character right now. You low down and dirty. Yeah. You low down and dirty. Not only, not only do you Hold on, 'cause I gotta get this out. Not only do you sit here and control this woman by taking away her phone, by manipulating her, by taking a woman who's in a vulnerable state and then using information about the fact that she can't have children or she's had her tubes tied and then telling her that you've intentionally went and found another woman, that is low down beneath the earth dirty behavior. And I don't know what insecurities you have, that has made you feel like you need to treat a woman like this? But you don't deserve even the dirt on the bottom of her shoes. Thank you, God. And then you say, and then, and then, let me make sure I just heard that correctly. Then you said to her, you wish that the 3 of y'all can raise this child together? Co-parenting. You wanna co— come on now. I'm not even smiling with you, brother, because you trifling. You are trifling all the way through. For you to be able to sit here, what is going on? You have a woman Listen, I'm glad you came back out here. This man is controlling you, you know it. You have been emotionally abused. You have been manipulated. And I'm gonna tell you right now, and again, I'm sorry, I gotta get outta character right now, but you know, when it comes to women who have been emotionally abused from me or physically abused, it gets under my skin. You are trifling and down right dirty. Why? You lucky, for real, man. If this was another context, and I know that I'm not related to her, me and you would have a sitchy situation. What? This is true. I'm gonna let you say what you need to say. I'm gonna let you say what you need to say, but—

5 years, I dealt with so much shit from you. Emotionally, everything.

Tell us that.

I am hurting. This hurts me. I don't deserve this. I deserve better than this. How in the world you gonna do that to me just because I can't have children? I just can't. I just can't.

Are you in a position right now for you to leave him? Mm-mm. And I ask that question because I know sometimes when you're in a situation where you had a man controlling you, manipulating you, can I buy you a phone? What can I do to support you so that you can get out of this?

I need to get out of it because if I don't, I'm hurting myself. At the end of the day, I'm hurting myself.

I know, I get it. That's why I'm asking you what resources. You can leave now. You trifling. You can leave. I don't need you on my stage. So what can I do to support you? What do you need?

I do need a phone.

You need a phone? Yes. Okay, I'm gonna buy you a phone. I'm gonna make sure I buy you a phone right now. So we're gonna give you some money so I can buy you a phone. What, are you living together? Are you living together? Yes. Do you have the resource to be able to find a deposit to get out? You got the resource to get a deposit?

Yeah. I don't, I don't know.

I'm gonna give you the resource to get a deposit so you can get your own apartment. What I'm trying to do here is I'm trying to make sure, come here, let me give you a hug, baby. Come here, come here, gimme a hug. Come here, come here, come here, come here, come here. I wanna give you the resources so you can get what you need. You hear me? I wanna give you the resources because I understand he—

Oh, I don't deserve this. I don't deserve this.

You don't deserve it. You don't.

I'm a good woman.

I know. I got you.

I'm a good woman. I try my best as a wife.

I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. The sad part is, and this is what happens, sometimes we give our hearts to the wrong man. Yeah. And unfortunately, you gave your heart to a child. You gave your heart to a child who decided to use it like it was a damn toy. But now you're talking to a man who's gonna help you and support you, all right? I'm not a little boy. I got you, sister. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you, I got you. You do deserve better. You do deserve better. Thank you. All right, thank you for being with us, friends. Make sure to come back next time so we can keep talking and we can keep growing. I love you all. You too, Karamo.