I Got My Groove Back… But Did I Pick the Wrong Man? | KARAMO

So I met him, let's see, I met him at a bar. I don't usually go out. And see, I had an empty nest. So 2 weeks later, he ended up getting kicked out from where he was staying. So he had to move in with me. Now I already—

I hope he didn't have to. I know. I know.

So I allowed him to move in with me, right? Against my better judgment. Now I don't usually move that fast. But I hadn't lived with a man for 20 years, my son was out the house, and Stella had to get her groove back, okay?

I ain't mad at her, I ain't mad at her.

And see, he was supposed to be a good time, not a long time. Uh-huh, but then, you know, he got up in the house and he was like fixing my faucets, washing my dishes and stuff, making up the bed, running bath water, you know, trying to be a little housekeeper and stuff.

Yeah, yeah, getting caught up.

Yes, got me caught up.

Yeah.

Okay, so what happened was after a while I had to tell Steven that he needs to get a job.

Yes.

Right?

'Cause how long was he in there just housekeeping and not working?

I'll say about 2 months. Ooh. About 2 months.

2 months and no checks is real.

Okay. So I started putting the pressure on him.

Yeah.

And so he did comply.

Okay.

He got a job. But here's the thing, Karamo, I got my own business, okay? And I own my own house. Steven thought that, well, why not? I work with you. Nah, nah. So let's fast forward. Now this where the issue, this where the real downfall of the relationship came. Okay, so I had the idea to sign up, sign him up for Uber, and I did the whole thing. Put on the computer, downloading the app, Everything, he just sat there, you know, and watched me every time I do something for him. It really turns him on. He like, "Oh baby, I love you so much." Uh-uh, okay, that is not cute, Karamo. That is not cute, okay? I'm 48 years old. That's not cute to me. Okay, so he started driving Uber. Now here's the thing. Now I gotta tell y'all about this Uber. I've been wanting to tell you about this. Rideshare?

Uh-huh.

For a long time. Okay, so $400 a week, renting a car, supposed to be a temporary situation. Do you know as soon as he got a, like I think probably first week or two, he done went and got a girl phone number?

Oh. Hold on, so when did you realize he was getting numbers from the Uber clients?

Oh, immediately. And I called the number, 'cause I was going through that phone.

Yeah.

I called the number. And she gonna say, "Well, he said y'all living like roommates." So what needs to happen to make your relationship work? Well, let me tell y'all like the good stuff about him first before we make the decision. Damn, they just want me to get rid of him.

Listen, they judgmental. But you know what?

Honestly, I mean honestly, they right. Okay, so what does it take to make it work? I need you to talk to him.

Okay.

'Cause look, he don't listen to me, right?

Yeah.

But then when we be watching you on TV, he be like, "Uh-huh, uh-huh." Okay, so I'm not sure, Karamo. I don't know if it could work.

Let me see, let me see. He said, "Let me hear both sides and then I'll see what's going on right now." So I think it's time to meet Steven. So everyone, please help me welcome Steven to the show.

Oh no. No.

No.

Get your girl.

Get your girl.

I can't be no hoe.

No, no, not after all that. So first of all, yeah.

I know he heard.

It's two sides to everything.

Every story, I'm ready to hear it.

Exactly.

And so the things that she's saying, I'm not gonna even dispute, okay? I'm the one in this relationship, confuses things.

Okay.

Okay. The things that she's saying about me, I'll say this, the driving situation, when you have to get up and go to work and you're in transportation, you have to have a straight state of mind, whereas you wanna be safety with people and everything, you wanna have your mind set. So I have to leave the house every day arguing with Sanina.

Oh, so y'all argue every day?

You take a seat for me.

Listen to me.

No, no, no, you ain't finna, nope, nope, you not finna, nope. This is what I have to go through. I can't get a word in. You see this?

Uh-huh.

I deal with animation.

OK. All day.

I feel like I'm in Groundhog Day.

Yeah.

And I want to get out.

Got it.

You understand?

Uh-huh.

I feel like I'm living with a boss instead of a partner.

Oh, OK. You know what I'm saying?

She's a dictator in our relationship. She's the prosecutor, the judge, the jury, executioner, everything.

Steven is a driver. So Saniyya, how many stars would you give him in this relationship?

That's what we doing? I don't know.

I'm just trying to get a foundation.

How much you gonna give?

I guess 3, like—

You give him 3 stars?

Yeah.

Okay, okay.

I'm a 5-star guy, stop it.

I mean, he, 'cause Karamo, he does have a lot of good qualities. Like, I have never had a man where like I feel protected with Steven.

Uh-huh. I got a sense of that from the beginning when you told me how he moved in and you felt like, and he started doing all these things around the house. I could tell that you, here you go, love. I could tell that there was, he gave you sense of security and safety. I could tell that immediately.

Yeah.

When we first met, we were taken by each other.

By the way, I'm not done. I wanna know how many stars you gonna give her.

Honestly, I could never, I just can't bring myself to really just put Selena down. I can't. I just can't. That's just my love for her. I just cannot. I just cannot. So, I'll give her a 4.5.

4.5, okay then. Okay. Steven, you have two phones and we unlocked both of them. Oh my God. Will we find anything in your phone?

Well, yes, you might find some stuff. But I'll say this, there's nothing in it, not a thing that she doesn't know about and that we haven't talked about.

Okay.

Okay.

What will you do if we find something in hers?

Well, it will give me clarity on some things because remember, she's the boss, the warden, the executioner, you know. She goes through my phone. The reason why she knows what's in my phone, 'cause she go, she has my code, everything.

Nah, that's past tense. He be, nah, you be capping.

She has gone in my phone. I got one better for you. When I met her, she went in my phone for the last however long you can go back in them. She went through all of that. And so she's been treating me— Because someone was cheating. No, stop.

Stop. I want to see his character.

Stop.

Character. So you wanna see about him before, you wanna see who he was before y'all got together?

I wanna see your integrity.

Okay.

You know, what type of person that you are. It's not about how you treat me.

But you wanna see if there's gonna be any patterns as well to see what's going on. Okay. Well listen, I think it's time to unlock the phone.

Unlock the phone.

Listen here, we unlocked your phone. So here we go.

It's better when it's on TV, watching somebody else go through it.

Exactly.

All right, Steven, you wanna know if Sonequa has been sending or receiving photos of other men. Sonequa says she is not. My locked-up phone investigator searched her photos and found that Sonequa is telling the truth. Steven, you wanna know if Sonequa has been calling other men. Sonequa says she is not. My locked-up phone investigator searched her calls and found that Sonequa is Not telling the truth. My investigator found 12 calls in the past 2 months with a man named Damon. 2 months?

Oh, that's exactly who I said it was.

Yeah.

Yeah. And you been telling me you haven't. And this is the integrity you talk about?

I did not tell you I haven't talked to him. Continue.

Yeah, you have.

That's the only, he was the only one she don't talk about. She talk about the other ones 'cause she know they ain't too, you know.

Yeah.

Yeah, but this guy, and I, I'm real cool, okay, but what about this dating?

He said in the past 2 months, Steven. Okay, did y'all see any text messages between me and him?

No, let him do his show, come on.

Y'all been talking, okay?

Yeah, we talk.

Listen, so Steven wants to know.

We do this all the time, it's your turn.

So Steven wants to know if Sonequa has been texting other men. Sonequa says she has not. My Octophone investigator searched her texts and found that Sonequa is not telling the truth. My investigator found 384 texts with two different men, Damon and then also [MASKED] in the past year and a half. So you know about [MASKED]?

Yeah, I know about [MASKED].

And you just learned about Damon more?

No, I've been knew about Damon.

But you didn't think it was going that far?

She was lying because I asked her, I always inquire about him because [MASKED], come on now, if you talking about the same person all the time, I know it ain't nothing happening with that. It's the one you don't talk about Stop playing with me.

So what's going on between you and Damon?

First of all, Karamo, nothing's going on between me and Damon, and he knows that.

No, I don't. This is why I wanted this back. Stop playing with me.

He knows that I talk to—

No, I don't.

I'm not in her skin.

Listen, can I finish?

Can I please finish? Yes, you can. Absolutely, absolutely.

Steven knows that I talk to other guys, and I don't have any problem with Steven talking to other women.

If you believe that. You believe in Santa Claus.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

If you believe that.

No, no, no. Cause. No, no.

Here's the only thing. So you're saying that you two are in an open relationship. No, Danina, you're not. Okay. So what do y' all talk about?

We talk about, like, his son or he just be calling to see what's been going on with me. I do not have inappropriate conversations.

Are you getting emotionally attached to Damon?

No, Absolutely.

He's already there.

I used to. Damon. Damon.

Damon. considered an ex.

I'm not, I'm not.

And y'all know what that means. That's that, yeah, call up, yeah, hey baby, boo, were y'all dating?

You and Daddy?

Yeah, we were dating and we were dating when I first seen him.

We were doing a little bit more than that.

We had just started back talking to each other.

Oh, so at the beginning of the relationship y'all were still talking? Did you know they were talking in the beginning?

She shared it, she said when I came around everybody moved out the way.

I couldn't, yeah. And it's been nothing but Steven ever since then.

But y'all talk?

We absolutely talk.

So you did restart it?

Because we talk on the phone?

Yeah.

I swear to God, no. No coaching. They not, listen, listen, no, no, no, no.

Y'all trying to coach y'all girl? Y'all trying to coach y'all girl? Listen, how y'all gonna be biased like that on the front row like that?

They trying to coach her. Put all of them on camera right here.

We need y'all to know that these three right here are trying to coach, they trying to coach, they trying to coach her and give us a thing.

That's what I'm just saying. And she has these friends that she's talking to.

No, so this is, in all sincerity, why didn't you end the relationship if there was a sexual relationship and you felt you had some emotion with him? Why would you keep it lingering?

There is no emotion with me and any other guy. I have no emotional connection. You can see in my phone, Damon will text and say, how you doing, whatever.

Okay, listen, so the thing is, I'm not accusing. What I'm trying to do now is, 'cause y'all said y'all wanna come here, You want me to get all the facts so I can tell y'all my opinion.

Solutions, yes.

So that's 384 texts in what, 3, how many years?

That was in a year and a half.

That can't be.

It was.

That in a year and a half?

A year and a half, that's what it was. In the past year and a half.

Come on, coaches, come on, coaches, coach her. She needs your help right now.

Okay, well listen, okay, I think I got enough facts about that. All right, so Stephen, we are locked in. Your phone.

Mine?

Sadina, you specifically want to know if Steven has done anything in the past 2 weeks. That has been your biggest concern, the past 2 weeks, right? Yeah.

She knows.

Okay then. All right, so Steven, we unlocked your phone. Here we go. Sadina, you wanna know if Steven has been calling other women. Steven says he has not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his calls and found that Steven is telling the truth. You knew that one already. You knew that one already. Okay, you knew that one already. All right then. All right, Sanina, you wanna know if Steven has any photos of other women. Steven says he does not. My locked-up phone investigator searched his photos and found that Steven is not telling the truth. Steven has 29 combined photos of other women on his phone sent via text.

In the last 2 weeks?

Some in the last 2 weeks, some in the last 2 weeks.

I bet you she know who it is. She goes through my freaking phone.

So you know who it is.

Not this new phone.

Not the new phone.

He didn't give me the code to the new phone.

Okay then.

I have talked to other people, but I have not cheated on you.

You gotta be kidding.

I cheated on you, Senina? Honestly, look at these people and tell 'em I cheated on you.

Emotionally cheating, is that cheating?

Yeah.

Talking about me to other bitches, 'cause that's what he does.

But I'm gonna tell ya, now wait.

Remember the two sides to everything? I come from a place where, I'm gonna be honest, totally, I have never been in a relationship where I was straight.

I believe that.

That's the truth.

I believe that.

I've been in relationships where we've cheated on each other. I've never put so much work into somebody in my life.

I believe that.

So that's growth for me.

He telling the truth.

I don't know about y'all, but that's growth for me.

Okay, get back to the dog.

I have not cheated on her.

So, Sunita, you wanna know if Steven has been texting other women. Steven says he is not. My life upon investigation searched his texts and found that Steven is not telling the truth. Steven has 274 texts from other women in both of his phones, but none from the past 2 weeks. Okay then, so—

She knows about everything.

So the ones that are in here, let me see, Ralph.

So within the last 15 days.

It wasn't nobody.

All of this in the past year and a half. Okay then, okay.

Now mind you, we just got back together. No, we just got back together. We only been back together 6 months. Okay, what has it been, 5?

We still ain't back together till Karamo tell us we should be back together.

Okay, so this is, so you want me to tell you if you should stay together or break up? And I'm gonna tell you point blank, you two should stay apart.

Okay.

But I actually think there's a path to getting back together.

I agree.

The only lesson I'm gonna give y'all is instead of y'all sitting here and questioning each other and trying to tear down the home, if you really want this, stop kicking the bricks out. So when she does something or he does something, say you just kicked another brick out the house. And let that be the sort of mantra you use to get y'all back together to say, hold on.

Thank you.

I'm trying to give y'all a little something.

We need some intense help, Karamo.

You two are either riding with each other or not riding at all. And I want y'all to ride with each other. So please take my advice. I do.

I do.

I really like Steve.

Y'all a bunch of fun. I come over to your house and have a good time with both of y'all.

Y'all a good time. Y'all a good time.

I just wish that that foundation was not broken in year one. But y'all gotta realize Y'all gotta start building it again. Trust me, if y'all can do that, y'all can start taking the steps back together. All right, thank you.

Listen, I wish y'all the best of luck.