I Had a Hoe Phase… Now 4 Men Could Be My Baby’s Dad!

Why do you need a DNA test for your daughter?

So I was married for 12 years and I went through a divorce and I went through a complete hoe phase like all us women do sometimes.

Yes.

And I went out partying and living it up. I had lost like 100 pounds.

Come on, babe.

I lost over 100 pounds.

Amen, you lost 100 pounds?

Yes. And so I thought I could get better and Every night, like, I would go out and party and then have somebody come over. If they didn't satisfy me, I would call the next and he would come over that same night and— And so now I don't know who the baby's daddy is.

Got it. So it caused some issues in the end, but you had your fun in the moment.

I did. I had a lot of fun.

Good. Okay then. Good, good. Listen, I ain't mad at it, okay? And you're solving the situation now. I'm not gonna judge the hoe phase, okay? Because after 12 years of a marriage, and it sounds like you weren't happy.

I was not happy.

Sound like you need a little bit of a release.

Yes.

Get you a piece, girl. All right, so. But how many fathers are, potential fathers are in question?

4, Karamo.

4, okay then.

Let me break this down for you. Okay. The first one, one night stand. Second one, one night stand. And the third one, the third one.

You died, you died, you died because I died, girl. You die, I die.

Listen, that third one was in prison. He still is in prison for 6 years. He is Mike's best friend who is backstage somewheres. And Mike is backstage. He's the fourth potential, which I think she looks like him. Look at that beautiful baby.

She is gorgeous.

She is beautiful. I love my baby. She's my everything.

So how did you meet Mike?

My, okay, so we went to a bar and I was with my best friend who was also backstage. We played a little bit of pool, had a couple drinks, took him back to my place and we had a little bit of fun. And it's been that way. The three of y'all? Yeah, just me and him.

Okay, you and him.

Okay?

You said we had a little fun.

Sorry, it was just me and him. I took him back home. I thought he was cute, he's still cute. So we've been messing around for 5 years, even after her.

Who's her?

Girl in the green right here. She's his 22-year-old girlfriend.

Oh.

This man is 42. Oh. And—

You messy.

I'm very messy, sir.

I'm very messy, sir.

Okay, okay.

Okay.

So before we— We're gonna get to you in a second because she done pointed you out, but I gotta figure out the rest of the story. But nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you too.

But okay, so tell me about man number 2 because I know how you met Mike, but shooting pool took him back and mystery man number 2, so.

So mystery man number 2, we—

Is that the one with trash?

He was trash.

Uh-huh.

But he was, so my friend Samantha who's out back.

Okay, and tell me about mystery man number 3. That's the one that you said is in prison now?

No, number 3 was shit.

Uh-huh. Number 3 was trash.

Number 4 was another, like, just another one-night stand.

Another one-night stand?

Yes.

Okay.

Mike and the other one moved upstairs from me, so it was a convenience thing.

Got it.

Mike wasn't around, the other one came down, and we only had sex like twice. I'm just saying. But none of them ever used protection.

Okay, got it.

Okay. And I don't know either two, the last two, I don't I don't know their names, I don't know nothing.

[Speaker] Okay then, you don't know them. But would you be able to find some contact with them if you need to? Because what are the apps you found them through?

[Speaker] I, one of them was Snapchat, the other one I think I found him on Facebook. I don't remember, it's been years ago.

[Speaker] Got it, years ago now.

[Speaker] Yeah. I really hope that she's Mike's because Mike and I have a history. We've been together for like off and on for 5 years. Literally was just talking to me on Wednesday before this bitch popped up and was gonna take me on a date and pay for it and do something different with me. I'm not trying to be mean, like I just want her to know the truth that he is really not just for her. He's got all the women. He can be for everybody.

I told you.

He still is talking about other women.

So then if you know he got other women, why you wanna go on the date?

Because, exactly, exactly, because I have feelings for this man. I've had feelings for him since we first started talking. Got it. I've had big feelings for this man. And he pulls me back in like he did this time and then he brought her out. Why did he do that? I just don't understand why he would still be talking to me, telling me he wants to fuck and do dirty shit with me. I got the text messages to show it. So I don't know if he's deleting from for you, honey, but he's still talking to me. He was still talking to me.

Does Michael have a relationship with your daughter?

Absolutely not. He treats her like shit. He doesn't treat her like she's his. Obviously he doesn't know, but he's never bought her anything. He doesn't take her for walks like he took her daughter for a fucking walk. He doesn't do that with me. He's got a better relationship with her, I can tell you that right now, but she is 22 and I just wanna tell you, I'm not trying to be mean to you.

Age doesn't matter.

I know it doesn't matter, but let me just be, let me just say my piece real quick. He's not for you, honey. You are 22, you can do so much better. This man's just gonna use you and take your money and say things that make you feel good and then he's gonna leave you like he does the rest of us. He's gonna break your heart if that's what you got for me at all.

I got a Prada ring, baby. Prada ring, baby.

What's your name? You can go ahead and stand up.

I'm Kerzia.

Kerzia? Okay, hi Kerzia.

I'm 22.

Uh-huh.

I've been with Mike for 3, I've known Mike for 3 years. I've been with him for 11 months.

Okay.

It marked December 4th a year.

Okay.

We actually just lost a baby 5 months ago.

Okay.

I was 4 months pregnant, so I am a baby mama. I'm not his girlfriend. So let's re-say that.

Okay.

I'm not just a bitch either. I got respect for you. I actually told multiple people that.

But do you understand what she's saying to you? That literally he's just texted her recently and said he wants to take her on a date and—

We could have went together as a trio if you asked, baby.

Oh, she's like that. Girl, I don't swing that way. I'm strictly You ain't an ugly bitch.

You pretty too, baby. We both pretty. We could have fucked together.

But you said no. I'm down, baby. Speak up.

I'm ready to hear Michael's side of this story. So everyone please welcome Michael to the show. Mike, thank you for being here.

Yeah, I appreciate it.

So question, did you know that there was 4 potential fathers, you included?

No, I didn't. This is new information to me.

Okay, how many men did you think were involved in this?

Two.

Two.

And that's just me and my best friend.

Okay then, and outside of that you didn't know?

No, I didn't know nothing about the other two.

So why do you have doubts? 'Cause it sounds like you all have been establishing a relationship for 5 years.

Well, I have doubts because of my other homie. I have doubts because She moved him in before all of this happened.

Who did I move in?

Him, y'all two was living together.

For like 2 days, I kicked his ass out.

Y'all was living together. I don't know what, y'all was living together.

No, he came and stayed with me for a couple days and I literally, just like I did you, I kicked you out in 2 days.

You didn't kick me outta nowhere.

I did too, I sent your ass outside the house.

You didn't kick me outta nowhere, I left.

Yes, sir. Do you think this child looks like you?

Of course, I think she looks like me. She has my skin complexion and all that, but I don't think she's mine 'cause I don't feel the same bond that I had with my other kids.

'Cause you have other kids, haven't you?

Yeah. Because we didn't make her out of love, we made her out of just fucking. That's what the fuck it was.

That doesn't mean anything.

How old are your other kids?

My other kids are 25, 23, 19, 15.

And you got your little girlfriend over here that's 20. You got kids her age. What the fuck?

Yeah, I do.

That's disgusting.

It was different then. It don't matter. What me and her got is different. What me and you got is different.

Mike, can I actually talk?

Don't be jealous of her because I made her my girlfriend and not you.

You did it tonight before. Don't get jealous.

Don't get jealous because I made her my girlfriend and you're not.

Why the fuck would you wanna take me on a date on Wednesday, you dumbass?

I would take you on a date to let you know who I was messing with. And then stop texting me.

And stop calling me. Like you normally do.

Like you always do. You wanna bring up text messages?

Oh, I got a whole lot. I got a whole lot.

Why don't you come over here and lay with me? I miss you. You need to come over here.

You're trying to get me to do something stupid.

You need to come over here and spend time with your daughter.

Come over here and do all this.

You did all of that. You are a lame ass bitch.

Just like all them men up there. You did all that one night stand and all that. Don't get mad at me 'cause I'm saying no bitches.

Girl, tell her how many bitches have you been with.

Don't come up 'cause I'm saying no bitches.

Bitches you been with her.

I feel sorry for this bitch.

Ask her.

She's not nothing.

Tell her.

Hold up.

One thing you ain't gonna do, you ain't gonna call that one the B.

Sheena and Michael's mutual friend Samantha is also here.

Hey Karamo.

Samantha, so how are you involved in this situation?

How am I not involved?

Okay.

I'm the reason they know each other.

Yes.

But one of the mystery men is.

Uh-huh.

So I just found out a week ago though that could be one of the possibilities.

Could be a possibility. So why are you disappointed with Michael?

Because I know how he is as a dad, and I know that he would've been, like, I just don't, I don't know why we're here 2 years later.

So you're saying he's a good daddy? You're saying he's a good father for the other children? He's a good daddy, yes. Producers tell me that you think Sheena might be here again in a little bit. So you feel like we're not gonna get the answers today?

Oh, we're gonna get an answer. I don't know what answer we're gonna get.

But do you think she's gonna be back on the stage again, Michael?

Definitely.

So you feel like he's not the one?

Honestly, she does look like him.

Okay.

I mean, the facial, the skin color.

Thank you for that, Samantha. I really appreciate that perspective. Sheena, what do you want to happen today?

I wanna find out that he's the dad so I can put it in his face.

It's funny because I've never said this on the show, but I pray that he's not the father. And I pray that for, I pray that for, your peace of mind and wellbeing and this child's peace of mind and wellbeing. Because at the end of the day, if this child had to grow up in even 1% of what I've seen and witnessed here today, he triggers you, you trigger him. There's so little communication and respect that's happened here.

He literally does not respect me and will say things just to get what he wants and to get money out of me. And then he's gone, so. That's awesome.

I do believe there is a pattern of using. We're not here for this, but Mike, I'll tell you this. I do believe there's a pattern of using. I do believe that the way you vilify her for having her sexual encounters, I believe that you have equal or more sexual encounters. I can make this assessment because of the fact that your girlfriend currently has shared with all of us that you all are willing to have open sex. Also the fact that Samantha has told me that you all were in a situation where you all knew each other. So I feel that you're probably having the same the same type of promiscuous behavior, yet you judged her because she got pregnant with it, which I think sometimes is unfair for men. Secondly, you can look him up. I know it's true. Your girl, and they both confirmed it.

But that's what she said. So that's not how I feel. That's not me though.

I'm not talking about your feelings, but I'm talking about the actions. You're telling me that you have never had, you weren't having sex with multiple women?

No.

Lies.

Lies.

Let's get to the DNA truth.

Let's go. I'm so scared.

I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. I know, here we go.

I know it ain't him.

Sheena, in this envelope is your DNA truth. We see that there's 4 possible men.

God, I'm gonna cry.

I know, this is a lot. I know, it's a lot for all of y'all. I can see this has been bubbling at the top for all of y'all right now, but this is sooner the answers. This is your truth to open, not mine, so here you go.

I'm just scared. I don't even know. I don't even wanna open it. I just feel like if it is his, I don't even know if I want you to be involved in her life just because of the way you've treated me for 5 years. It's been off and on with us and you could, it's a little baby, you could have literally treated her with some kind of something but you don't even pick her up, you don't hold her, you don't kiss her.

I'm not sitting up here lying, yo.

I'm not lying, I'm telling the ever-loving truth.

You lying, yo ass.

Every time you come over here, Or you just gonna fuck up.

It's cool. Do your thing. Do your thing.

All right, bet. And if it's not true, good. I don't give a fuck.

Evidently you do.

He's not the father, good.

I love you, baby. I promise you I do, baby. What did I tell you? I love you. What did I tell you? I love you, Michael. What did I tell you?

Come on, man, what did I tell you?

I promise you, baby, I care. I've been through this, man. I been knew this.

Come on, man.

Right hand to God, my baby, tell me everything.

Behind doors, it's my best friend, before my baby.

Yeah, I been staying in no business house.

He live with me, baby.

I been staying in no business house with you, man.

Mike, I'm excited that this is not your child.

Me too.

Everyone in this audience shares the excitement. Everyone in this audience shares the excitement.

I been knew this already.

Everyone in this audience shares this excitement because we know that this That's why I've been to Carmen since we got here. Yeah, what I would say to you though is you could have handled this differently if when you first felt that this wasn't your child, you could immediately have gotten the DNA test, okay? Well listen, I'm glad y'all got the answers.

Oh, I do too, bro.

I'm glad you got the answers.

I already knew. I've been here already.

Mm-hmm. And Samantha, I guess you were right about your friend that you feel like we would be back here. Listen, any support she needs.

Yes.

—And what I would encourage you, I would encourage you, young woman, protect your own heart and mind. You are a young woman, protect it. Yeah, protect it, protect it. I know most of this, you're not listening, but girl, God put me here, I know. —I appreciate you, man, I appreciate you, man. [Speaker] Listen, and I know this was hard, I know this was hard for Sheena, but Sheena, if you're backstage, any support you need, I'm here to give you. And I just pray that you see that this relationship is unhealthy and that you two stop texting each other and don't talk no more. Listen everyone, stay with us friends, we'll be right back with more.

All I'm gonna say is I wish her the best. All that lying, it didn't help. I ain't gotta talk to her, I'm not even gonna get a hold of her.

Please leave us, I just want her to leave us the fuck alone.

She can do what the fuck she needs to do. We don't want nothing to do with her.

Bye! I never wanted nothing to do with you anyways, bitch!

Block me, don't call me, all of that. Tell her to go find her dad. That's what she need to go do. She's gonna be added to the rest of my exes.

Check.

He got a type. He got a type. And that little girl is so misguided. She think that using her sex is a power and she don't realize that it ain't giving her no power. She feel like she, somebody has told her like, oh, if I'm one of the guys and I do this stuff, then somehow I am controlling the situation. And she don't realize she's being manipulated by a 42-year-old man.