I Had A Threesome With My Father! | KARAMO

What was the inappropriate question that your alleged father asked you?

Well, I was around 20, my late 20s. He asked me to have a threesome with him and a woman.

Oh my gosh.

That he was messing with. We was on drugs at the time and a little intoxicated, but I went through with it, but I felt uncomfortable and I just gave up. I couldn't do it, you know? And that's about all I remember from that.

Oh my gosh. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I understand that drugs and things were at play, but that must have been the hardest moment even after you gotten sober to deal with.

Yeah.

So you did go through that threesome?

I started out with it, but I didn't go through with it.

Got it. How long have you considered Mel to be your father?

All my life. That's all I knew.

All your life. And how has Mel been as a father?

Oh, he just in and out my life. You know, he come like once a year.

Once a year.

Just pop up outta nowhere into my life.

Yeah, yeah. Have you ever told anybody, told anyone that he had asked you for that threesome?

I told my mom, but she hardly listened to me.

Okay, she didn't listen to you. What did she say when you told her?

Well, you know, she believed it because she hate him so much. You know, so she like, I told you that wasn't your daddy.

Got it, got it, got it. So that only confirmed for her that like this man is not your father.

Well, all my life she's been telling me this man's my father. She just said that he's not my father like 10 years ago. She started saying, "That's not your father. I know who your father is." Got it, okay then.

Has your mother tried to stop you from seeing Mel?

All the time. Every time I call him or he'll call me, she always be like, "Kiki, that's not your daddy. You need to stop talking to that punk. He's not your daddy." Well, why would you keep telling me that man is my daddy all my life?

Yeah, and he don't switch up.

Yeah, not 'cause you mad at him, he's not my father, it just don't make sense.

Got it. How's all this affected you?

It affected me terribly. I just can't function sometimes. I done got on drugs even more. I just, I'm a person, I just, I don't know, I just stay to myself. Like, I don't feel comfortable talking about it. I just feel like nobody don't care.

Yeah.

So.

I hear that.

That's why I'm really here to find out if this man's my father or not.

Yeah, yeah. Well, I will tell you this. I'm glad that you came here because I do care. And I'm thankful that you felt safe enough to talk to me and talk to my producers because we do wanna give you the answers. We wanna make sure you feel seen and we wanna make sure you walk away here a little bit better than you found you. Well, I think it's time to hear what Male has to say about all this. So please welcome your alleged father, Male, to the show.

Can you come take a seat for me?

Thank you for being here, man.

Yes, sir.

How does it make you feel about what was just said?

I was hurt. I'm just hurting for all she done been through, and I just thank God for this day that she get a chance to see the real deal here.

Do you believe that you're her father?

Yes. Not 50%, 100%.

You're 100% sure? So if you're 100% sure, why did you ask your daughter for a threesome?

Ask my daughter for a threesome? Hmm?

A little while back when we was in the trailer and we was intoxicated, Eddie. We was high drunk.

At then, we was getting drunk and getting high, everything.

It was like, we started out but we never went through with it.

It's something I don't know about.

You don't remember?

I don't remember that.

Okay. So the drugs and addiction for you just blanked out your mind. How many years were you two using together?

We really didn't use together like that in years. I was the one using. I came around my dad and I think I pushed it on him.

Got it, okay.

'Cause I was out there, I was intoxicated, I was in a strip club. Okay, intoxicated. I was out there.

So how much during that time did you two use together?

We only did it like once or twice.

Once or twice. Okay, and that once or twice is with that thing that you remember?

Yeah, it was just that one time.

Okay. Hearing your daughter tell you that, or your potential daughter tell you that now, what does it make you feel?

That's what even, that's what made me have my daughter.

I feel like it's something her mother probably put in her mind. Say, I don't, there ain't no way in the world. It shocked me, 'cause I'm dead not hear somebody.

I was very intoxicated that night.

I had just left the club. You just don't wanna make a bad look for your mama, what you done, What she put in the system.

Daddy, it is something that inhabits you.

Never, I never, never did say that.

God never went through with it, so why?

Why would you still deal with me then like that?

I wanna know, Daddy.

Do you think that you're a good father to her?

I know I'm good.

Mm-hmm.

11 children, I ain't got no problem with none of my kids.

Okay. Well, Cheryl's mother Dorothy is here today. She's, she couldn't fly in to be with us today. 'Cause she's working. So she's joining us via remote. Please welcome her to the show. Thank you. Thank you. Dorothy, I thank you for being here. I see that you're emotional. What's making you emotional?

Well, number one, my daughter is in my heart right now. And the man that's sitting next to her, he one of the biggest liars on earth.

So why are you saying that Mel isn't Cheryl's father?

Because he can't make kids. He don't have no children.

Why can't he make kids from your point of view?

Okay, when he was a little boy, he lived in New York. His mother used to lie a lot. And he came in one day.

Is that the cleaning stuff? You talking about the cleaning stuff?

Lye, you know, your makeup lye?

Oh yeah.

You making up lies.

It was sitting on the step and he got it. He thought it was water. He drunk it. And when he found out it wasn't water, they rushed him to the hospital up in New York. He was there for 4 months to keep him alive. He got cat guts right now sitting on that chair.

Is this true? Is this true?

No.

You went to a hospital and you're saying that the hospital gave him Instead of getting a transplant with human organs, they gave him cat organs is what you're saying.

Right.

I just wanna be clear, that's what she suggested.

Can't give no kids.

Mel, your son Howard is in the audience. So everyone please welcome Howard.

Can't have no kids.

So I wanna ask you, how do you feel about what was just said?

I can't have no kids, this shit going kill.

How do you feel about what has been said on the stage?

Standing here today, I heard a lot that I really didn't know about. Sister, I wanna say I'm sorry for everything that you have been through. I didn't know half of this, but on my test, I'm 100% sure that my dad is my dad. I look just like him.

So you don't have any doubts about him being your father? Because I wanna let everybody at home know, not only are we here testing you, Cheryl, we've also tested you as well, Howard, because of the fact that Dorothy makes claims that he can't have any kids. Yeah, she told me. Since you've been told that as well, that he can't have any kids, to give everyone clarity, we've tested you as well. What happened when you were 8 years old?

8 years old, we was, I had to stay with Miss Dot, and she told me, she said, I wanna talk to you. And when she talked to me, she told me that he was not my father, that he cannot have kids.

Who, my daughter?

Go ahead.

And his brother is my dad.

At 8 years old, you were told that? Yes, sir. You know, Howard, I actually want you to come down here and come on stage.

Yep. Told my other daughter that too, same day.

Come on down.

This brother is a dad.

I know you.

I'm sorry for everything that you've been through. Thank you, Lord.

Thank you, Jesus.

Thank you, son. I'm gonna ask you, before I get to this question for you, Dorothy, how does that make you feel seeing that your brother does hear you?

Hear you and see you.

It made me feel good that he's even making a step with me. Whatever it is, he's still my brother.

Yeah. Whatever it is.

Thank God. Thank you, Dee.

Howard, so Dorothy is not your mother, correct?

No.

Yeah, okay. Well, I think before we can get to any other healing, we still need to get these first answers.

Answers.

And I think it's important for us to— let's start with you, Howard— to see if, as Dorothy has claimed, if Mel is your father or not. Howard, in this envelope is a DNA truth. This is your truth to open, not mine. So I'll give that to you.

Oh, do the honors, Mel.

Thank you.

Because I love you.

I love you too.

And today we gonna find out the truth.

Yes, we are.

Thank you, Jesus.

You ready?

Yes.

Liar.

Howard, Mel is your biological father.

Oh, Lord Jesus.

Hey, hey, hey. Tony, you gonna come to the light. You gonna come to the light. You big liar. This the day you plead my fault. Thank you, sir. Thank you, God.

That's not true.

Big liar. You hurt me all these many years. But the truth gonna come out.

Dorothy.

God said what go in the dark gonna come to light.

So Dorothy, we do know that you said that, you did say that Mel cannot have any children. You said that he was not able because of something that happened as a child. We now know, Dorothy, that Mel can have children.

That's impossible.

Well, it's not impossible anymore. So I think now you have to understand that it is possible and it is the truth. This is his child.

They're gonna show everybody, she a big liar.

So I'm gonna ask you, Dorothy, before we go any further, is there anything that you wanna say to Howard? Because from his perspective at 8 years old, you told him that that was not his father.

She a big liar.

Well, that's what his mother said.

You had a doubt in your head.

I'm going by what his mother told me.

That's a big liar.

Okay, though his mother's not here, and rest in peace, I want to make sure that you who are living and knowing that you did take a hand in this, do you want to give an apology for burdening him with that? He just said that he spent his life thinking that was the truth.

I don't.

Okay.

She didn't want to apologize?

All right, she said she does not want to apologize. Okay, so in this envelope here, Cheryl, is your DNA truth. Again, you were told some of your life that this is your father. Then you were told other parts that this is not your father.

What?

So here you go. This is your truth to open now.

Can I say something for you, dude? Can I say something to you?

Of course you can.

Let me just say something for you.

Mama? It's all about this test right now. Daddy? This test, if I open this test up and this man my father, I'm gonna be really pissed at you, Mom. I'm gonna be really pissed at you.

That's right.

That can't be possible.

I love you, Daddy. I love you.

From this moment on, Mama, you cannot—

Oh Lord Jesus, this is something you got to accept, Mom. Thank you, Jesus.

I love you, but this is something you got to accept.

Oh, Jesus.

I'm gonna retest that.

Oh my God, look at it. Oh my God.

No, so Dorothy, Dorothy, at this pace here, your only response is you wanna retest?

That's all she is.

Dorothy, do you feel like you owe your daughter an apology?

My God.

I may owe her an apology, but I'm gonna have it tested. I'm gonna have her test again. Why?

Okay, Dorothy, I wanna ask you a question. Why would you wanna put Cheryl through another test when she's been confirmed? Why can't you accept this and apologize to your daughter for the lies that you've said to her?

It wasn't lies.

Well, Cheryl, it is lies because it has been confirmed that that is her father, that male is her father. You've said even on this stage.

I don't know why I was pregnant while I wasn't with him. I was pregnant before I got back with him.

Excuse my language, but she's a hoe. She know who's banging who.

You know what?

That's what she was.

You talking about yourself, bro. She was messing with somebody else' man.

Dorothy.

I never been a hoe in my life.

Dorothy. I met you at 2 o'clock. Dorothy, I have no question. I don't want to question your past. What I do want to do is stay in the present and understand—

I don't have a past.

He do.

He's a crackhead. He know.

Dorothy, science—

I didn't go nowhere to be a hoe.

Science does not lie.

I was happy with you.

He wouldn't even let me go nowhere.

Dorothy, Dorothy, we have the DNA test.

I don't want him anymore.

Dorothy.

Never wanted him.

At this moment, Dorothy, what your daughter needs is for you to step up as her mother to give her the closure and answers. Are you willing to start that journey by at least apologizing to her for giving her up for adoption?

I apologize to my daughter. I apologize to my daughter.

Thank you, Mom.

But I'm not apologizing to him. 'Cause I still don't believe he her daddy. I got to do it myself.

Mama. I can't believe he is.

I'm wondering why I don't get no apology.

I thought I really believed you because I looked at you as a mother figure. She's my brother, Ma.

And now that the truth came out, I at least thought that you would be woman enough to at least give me an apology.

Did she hang up the feed?

She probably did.

She hung up the feed.

She can't deal with the food.

Yeah, she hung up the feed.

I got my daddy. That's all that matters to me.

Now, I'm so sad for the amount of times and the things that went through. I mean, it's clear to us, we've all seen this, that your mother has unfortunately had some issues that has caused her to feel as if she wanted to disconnect from this relationship. And her wanting to disconnect from this relationship has unfortunately caused her to lie and cause you pain and you pain as well. I will tell you this one thing that I can do now that you've gotten your answers. During your time of being high, and I can't let this slide over, I'm not accusing you of doing anything now, but I will tell you that was a critical moment in your daughter's life. Where she felt something was crossed the line and she does need acknowledgement and closure from that. She said out of her own mouth, nothing went far, that she ended it. So no one's looking at you as if you did something to your daughter. But in a moment of addiction, something did cross the line and whether you remember or not, she remembers it. And so what I would encourage you to do is to give her that closure and say, I'm sorry. Can you give her that?

But let me say this here before I say this here. I'm gonna say it in the right way.

Of course, exactly, sir.

Now I feel, feel like this here, that's something I don't remember. And I just wanna say this here. If I did do that, if you feel I did that, something like that, I apologize for you think that way.

I'll accept it.

You'll do real.

I do wish y'all the best of luck and I hope to see you again so I can really help y'all, all right? Wish y'all the best of luck.