I Know You're My Baby Daddy, She Has Your Ears! | KARAMO

Karamo mediates a paternity dispute between Asia, 24, and Cortez, 31, over her six-month-old baby. A DNA test confirms Cortez is the father. Karamo helps them plan co-parenting while addressing Asia's homelessness and their involvement with Child Protective Services.
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Thank you for being here, first of all. You look amazing.
Thank you.
Why are you 100% sure that this is Cortez's child?
Listen, I know I done been a lot of places, seen a lot of things, but one thing this thing ain't been is a lot of places. So I know who my baby daddy is.
Did he ever offer to do a DNA test?
He has numerous amounts of times, but he has always failed.
Failed the mission.
He's never stepped up and did what he was supposed to do. It's always been an excuse on why not and why this and why that. And there should never be an excuse, especially if you feel like there's any type of concern of, oh, this is not my baby. You need to figure it out.
Figure it out. Got it. And so we have some text messages that you wanna see. Let me take a look at these. Okay. It says, I'm gonna try to fly you out next month for a DNA test. Bro, I've been ready. Okay, you like— I'm ready. Okay, so it's not like you saying no, why? You're like ready, let's go.
Yes.
Okay then, take me back. So how did you two meet?
So Cortez works at a club, strip club in Milwaukee. He does security and it's Ricky's. I used to work at Ricky's.
Okay.
I didn't meet him there. I found that out later on down the road. I ended up actually meeting him online on a dating site.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
And then it was sort of like, oh, we used to work at the same place.
Yes.
And when did you two move in together?
It's been about, it was like about after a week. I was back and forth between him and my gay best friend's house.
Okay, got it. So it was more so not, it was more so like because we're talking, you weren't trying to move in, you were just there frequently. Or were you trying to move in?
No, I was just getting back on my feet and he had offered, you know, for me, he didn't have no problem with me being there. It was never, he wanted me out in the beginning. Until I stopped giving him what he wanted.
And what was it that he wanted? Huh? You fine, I like you. So do you think that he looks like your child?
Man, my baby looks just like him.
Let me see.
Yes.
Oh, let me show y'all, okay? Like, no, look at that dent in that ear. Look at that in that ear. Karamo, she has your ears. The dip, the beginning, the same, everything. That's him all day. Look at my baby. The hair texture of my baby.
Why do you think he's denying Ny'Ari?
I will give it to him. Right now, that man has a whole lot on his plate. He just got custody of his other two children that were in foster care for four years prior. So he's a single father as well now with a 7 and an 8-year-old. And now you have this 6-month-old baby. So I can understand why you wanna be for sure, but I mean, look at my baby. My baby looks just like him. And I feel like it's innocent until proven guilty. Like, do you know my situation? Help me at least a little bit. You know what I'm saying? And I never asked him for no money. I never asked him for money at all when it came down to my baby. I asked him for his time. Call her, talk to her so she can know your voice.
Yeah, but you deserve to ask for money as well. If this is his child, you deserve to ask for both. Has he claimed he would step up in the past?
He has, he said it a multitude of times.
Oh yeah, hold on, we got that message. I wanna see that message too. I've asked you many times if you want to be her dad or not and you claim yeah, but show me that. In all honesty, you don't care. I wish you cared more. Cortez, it's just me and my baby. Okay. And has he responded?
He's a bitter baby daddy. He's a bitter ass person because I feel like if it involves me, oh, he wants the whole package. He wants the fine baby mama, he wants the baby, he wants me there. And no.
No. Do you want a future with him?
It's rocky. It's gonna have to take more than, you know, I need him. If he can be a good father for my child, then we can see. But it's all about her. It's not about us.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I'm in tears for real. Me and my baby got our first Christmas pictures today and just gonna be me and her. If that is my baby, you willing to be mine? Oh, so he's asking you to be his again?
Yes.
Oh wow. So before we get to this DNA test, let me just talk to you. I'm here for you.
Yes.
No, this is not a relationship. So even if he is a good father, trust me when I tell you there's no foundation here for a relationship, okay? And I would say the same thing to him. There's no foundation here to be built on. And so I wanna keep it real with you. Yeah. All right? Did you two see each other last night? Girl!
Y'all stop it!
Girl!
And what happened last night?
That's why she backing up Philz. It makes sense. You know I'm somebody else's gay best friend too, right? So you know, you know.
Yeah, I mean.
I guess I'm all of y'all's gay best friends.
Right.
Well, listen, I think we've heard your side, but I think it's time that we hear Cortez's side of the story. So everyone, let's welcome Cortez to the show. Hey Cortez, how you doing? Nice to meet you.
Thank you.
Take a seat for me.
Nice to meet you too.
Thank you for being here. Yes, thank you for being here.
My pleasure.
Okay, so how do you feel about what she just said?
Half of it was accurate, you know what I'm saying? But—
What part is accurate?
We waiting.
The part where I was horny 24/7. You know, I am a man, you know what I'm saying? And I do have my needs and you know what I mean?
Women have those same needs.
Everything sound pretty accurate.
It just sounds like y'all didn't have a foundation so that y'all could both enjoy those things.
Listen, with me being a single parent of 2 kids and constantly, you know what I'm saying? And don't get me wrong, yeah, I ain't even gonna get into all that, but you know what I'm saying? I do what I do at home and you know what I'm saying?
So since you're a full-time dad, like why can't you, like my daughter don't deserve 50% of you. She deserves 100% of you just like the rest of your kids.
I'm willing to be there for all my kids. I'm not finna get played like no damn fool and be out there out here taking care of my baby. Pictures are deceiving, bro. There's plenty out here that look like me, bro. There's plenty people out here that look like me. It could be a lot, bro. You are— my bad, not trying to put you out on spot. I know we on TV, but you are a dancer, you know what I'm saying? And we one time, one time, you didn't even want me to touch you. So of course it's like, damn, you just here to lay up in my house? And I'm trying to get my shit together so I can be a father to the kids I know that are mine. You see what I'm saying?
So why is this DNA test necessary for you then?
Because I wanna be the father to all my kids. I grew up without my dad, you know what I'm saying? I had a stepfather, but it ain't the same as your real dad being there.
But if it felt like that, all these promises of, oh, we're gonna do a DNA test and I'm gonna find you out.
Listen, you know they just beat the case on December 10th. I couldn't let these CPS workers know that I had another. That's gonna just get messy. You are in a homeless shelter, shorty. They gonna take that baby from you, bro.
I don't want that shit.
It don't matter about that. You are homeless with a child. And that's what, as soon as that case was closed, did I or did I not fly out here and make contact to get this DNA test done?
You didn't do shit.
How many other children could you potentially have?
Y'all really wanna know that question?
Yeah, I do.
Man, I might have a possibility to get 8 kids out here now. You know what I'm saying?
So you know when you talk about them needs, you need to buy some condoms is what you need. Yeah.
Hey, these are our children though. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, but I'm serious. If you gonna have needs, you need to go to the store and you need to buy condoms.
I agree.
And you need to put them on.
Or just, You know what I'm saying? Not have sex. I don't need no in my life right now.
So why do you have doubts about her? About your daughter?
Like I said, we messed around one time.
Okay.
One time.
I just wanna be clear.
One time.
Okay then. Have you ever seen her in person?
No, I have not.
You haven't seen her?
I would love to see her and meet her when I know that that's my child.
So she said you lived together. So I think we're all confused. How was it only one time y'all had sex?
Exactly. Okay, so we had, we messed around the first night. We messed around the first night. You know what I'm saying? After that, it was like, "Oh, I don't feel good." Blah, blah, blah.
Yeah.
Whatever the case may be, but yeah.
I saw that text you sent. Are you wanting a relationship with her?
I was just seeing where her mind was at, you know what I'm saying? 'Cause it could, at that time, at that time, yeah, at that time, I was still single and I did just win my kids and I wasn't really talking to nobody.
So why are you so into like selling me a dream?
I'm not selling you a dream.
'Cause it's not convincing me.
Who said I'm selling you a dream? I asked you at the time when, you know what I'm saying, I wasn't talking to nobody and all that shit.
You were feeling vulnerable in that moment.
I was just like, shit, I just wanna walk into the court. I wanna know if this my child or not.
I get it, but you can also be real. You went through something traumatic trying to get your children back and in that moment you wanted comfort and you wanted some security and you knew that she would provide that for you. It's okay to say that. I needed some vulnerability in that moment. That's what it was. You can lie to yourself any other way.
My man.
Just be honest.
I guess.
What's the age difference between y'all?
I'm 31.
Okay.
I'm 24.
Got it, understand. How do you feel if the test proves that you are the father?
I feel pretty good. My dad wants to meet the kids. I told my kids already that they might have a little sister out here, so it'll be a life changer. It'll be a wake-up call for them.
And if you're not, are you gonna stop communicating?
I have no choice.
Okay, you have no choice. All right, well, before we find out, we have Asia's sister, Kishana. How you doing?
I'm good.
She's here with us in the audience. Yes. How do you feel that Cortez has done thus far with this situation?
I don't feel like he is a bad person as much as I thought he was. I do feel like he's bullshitting a lot on this stage. He talked a good game as well.
Can I ask what you think I'm bullshitting about?
You will go back and forth with her. If this not your child or if this not a possibility it's your child, why you continue the chemistry?
I never said that it wasn't a possibility. It's a possibility. I know it's a possibility. I know who I slept with and I know how it was done.
Okay, so if you know it's a possibility, why have you not done anything?
I'm fighting to get my two kids. You put them up on the ceiling.
You can't even look at the little girl.
I can't speak upon no shit with the CPS, bro. I'm fighting to get a shit with a person that I—
And when did that shit happen? The baby is 6 months.
And when did the CPS come to your house? Yeah, okay, they just closed my case in December last year.
Okay, and she's 6 months. So that means that was 2 months ago that I had them.
And I could've contacted her. I could've been bogus. I could've been bogus and still forget them 6 months. I could've been bogus and left them 6 months. I didn't have to keep contact with her for them 6 months. I didn't have to do that. You had to let him out.
Didn't have to do that.
You had to let him out. It doesn't matter, I still gave contact back. When you called, I called back when I wasn't busy. I worked 3rd shift jobs to take care of 2 kids by myself. Is anybody else ready?
'Cause I'm ready.
Make it make sense. I'm over it. Make it make sense.
I specifically said you was not a bad person. I was starting off that you was not a bad person.
So there was no point of you getting defensive. My opinion. I wasn't, I could have been that guy and just said, baby, and just left.
You did another word.
You did another word. You did. You contacted her. I'm at home, it doesn't matter. I don't care what anybody else think.
What's the baby middle name?
What?
What's the baby middle name?
Now, much time you talk about Ny'Auri, you talk about Asia.
You don't talk about Ny'Auri, so you keep saying I did it like that.
You ain't did a shit. Yes, I do.
I asked her how the baby doin'.
What are we talking about? Okay. Okay, say that, say that, say that, say that.
Just say it. Well, listen, I do think that we do need to get to the truth of this and it's time to unlock the DNA truth.
I do believe that.
Oh. In this envelope is the DNA truth. It's been 6 months that you have been questioning and that there has been questions of is this your child or not? This is not my truth to open. This is your truth to open, Asia.
So you open it. Well, I already know. So you can open it, big daddy.
This is a life-changing thing right here, and I do promise to God I'm gonna be in both of y'all's lives, whether we together or not, whether I got a girlfriend at home, whatever the case may be, I'm being in this child's life, whether you like it or not, if this is my baby.
Oh, I want you to be.
Say that. Cortez is the biological father of my baby. Now stand up! Now stand up!
What you talking about?
Baby daddy?
Cortez, what you feeling in this moment?
I'm shaking up, I ain't gonna lie, I'm shaking up. This is a new beginning for me, you know what I'm saying? I just wanted 2 kids, now I gotta take care of a 3rd. 3rd, but I'm gonna be there. I ain't no deadbeat ass daddy. I'm gonna be there for my child. And you know what I'm saying? Rather, if she going through some shit in life, my baby's going through it too. And I'm not gonna let my baby go through that shit. So I'm there 100%.
So I actually do believe you. I believe you. I actually do believe you. I'm gonna give you 2 more pieces of advice.
Gotcha.
The first thing is that I understand what you're going through because I worked with Child Protective Services. That was my career before. And you're actually very valid and right. If you would've let that caseworker know that there was another situation where you had another child that was in the shelter. I know, I'm right. I'm right too, bro. I know, I'm validating you.
I do my research on everything.
That if there would've been something that could've messed up you with your other children. And it's unfortunate how the system is set up. But that could've messed you up and your children could still be in foster care system.
Exactly.
And so I wanna make sure that's put into perspective because it's easy to say like, where were you during that time? And what was going on. And so I understand your processing and why you were thinking the way you were thinking and you were doing the best you could and that's why you have your children now because you were doing the best you could with the resources you have. I understand that.
Appreciate it.
I got it.
Can I get an apology?
I apologize, Asia, baby mama.
That was third. I was gonna give 'em to you. You deserve your apology too.
I'm sorry for all the shit you went through.
Quietly, you deserve, She gets to the apology too.
I'm sorry, sis, too. I wasn't trying to get up in your business. You just a little defensive.
It's all right.
It wasn't offended. I was just trying to, you know what I'm saying? Take me for my name.
So I wanna show you something. You see how when you got vulnerable right there? Right. How everybody got smiles?
Right.
You can create peace in your life and you can create peace in these children's lives. And it sounds like she's willing to support you as you are willing to support her. Now, do I think y'all should be in a relationship? Hell no. Do I think that y'all could, do I think y'all can co-parent and figure this out? I actually do. All right? So please, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna talk to you because I know you're in a shelter right now, all right? I wanna support you, all right? Because you need it. So, so because that way as he's working with the other kids and y'all are figuring out how to co-parent, you can at least get yourself grounded and get yourself on some stable feet, okay?
Yes, thank you so much.
So I got you. You're welcome, you're welcome, all right? I want y'all to walk away here for success, all right? And if y'all can both take the advice, if you can take this help, these babies are gonna be all right. All right?
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