I Took My Ex Back After 20 Years, And She’s WORSE! | KARAMO

Okay, Zenobia.

Hi everyone.

So Zenobia, Jerry believes you're cheating.

Yeah.

You talking about yeah? Why she think you cheating?

Because I have a security camera.

Yes.

She have the code.

She sit and watch my cameras like it's Netflix.

She watch my cameras like I watch you.

Okay.

"It's only one way in the house." It may sound like a joke, but this is really, really true.

Yeah.

I'm 68.

Mm-hmm.

So the people—

You look good.

Oh yeah, okay.

You look good. Yes, you do. You look good.

Thank you. Come on.

But so she thinks that people coming to my house, now first of all, I'm the one paying the bills there. So therefore I pay that cost and I'm the boss.

Okay.

I'm not never, never inviting nobody to come to my house and tell them bring a ladder and climb up the window.

Not happening.

So Jerry won't see you.

Yeah.

She sit and it's really when she start like drinking. That's the problem right there.

That's the problem.

Yeah, her demons come out and tell her get on that camera. She start looking at me. Then she said something about I was buying gifts. If I'm buying something, I'm buying it for me. I ain't even buying you nothing else no more. And she gonna ask me, do I have people coming to the house while she at work? Yeah.

Mm. So I'm like, first of all, why would I invite somebody here?

So then she go get my car keys and look in the car to see if I brought somebody. I don't know.

So there's a bit of paranoia.

Jerry is my— my eyes are tearing. I know. And no, those not tears. Those is water eyes.

Water eyes. I got the same thing.

So then it's just—

But you rekindled your relationship with Jerry after 20 years of being apart.

Sorry? Okay, when we was in our 20s, yes, we did.

Yeah.

I moved on. I moved to Jersey. I was living in New York. I'm— Oh, ain't I cute? Yes.

But I tried to, I tried to.

We like her, right? You see everything, see everything.

And all of this is true.

It's nothing to lie.

Everything, she's a weirdo.

She is. I'm telling her, if I'm gonna do something, I don't need you.

You don't do nothing for me. So what am I missing? The only thing I would miss not being with her is a migraine.

I don't have to be with her. It's not like she do anything for me.

I upgraded her.

Ooh.

Yeah, so.

Ooh. And how long have y'all been together since y'all rekindled?

Since 2020.

2020, so about 4 years, 5 years.

Enough.

Okay, 4 years. Enough. Enough. So what happened the first time y'all broke up?

She started doing her own thing, I'll put it like that. And at the time we were young.

Yeah.

So I had moved to I went to Jersey and left her here. She remained the same. I grew.

I grew up.

So why give her the second chance then?

Hit me. I'm telling you, that's what I said. I mean, when they say the second time around is better, lies they tell.

Lies they tell.

If ain't no growth, you're right.

And it's tonight.

So what happens at night when you need to go to bed?

If she ain't on the cameras, she wanna video me on the phone. Now you watching me sleep.

But she watching me sleep, but watching to see if somebody behind me.

Jerry is a weirdo.

She literally wants you to fall asleep on FaceTime?

Yeah.

Oh my gosh. So how bad have things gotten? This is like an everyday occurrence?

When she start drinking, I don't know what little demons come and tell her. But they tell her, get on that camera. And I don't know where—

Is she drinking every day?

No.

Okay.

But—

But when she does it?

When she start, like she may sit up all night long drinking for like 3, 4 days. I mean, don't sleep. She just up just drinking.

Got it.

Yep, I have to sleep with one eye open. And then she get on my phone. Like she called me the other day. "Oh, we not friends on Facebook." I don't care about that.

Yeah.

So she said, "Oh, you must have took me off from being your friend." I don't even be on Facebook like that. Yeah.

I got other, I wanna sit there and watch you.

I appreciate that. I appreciate it.

I appreciate it.

I appreciate it.

Now it's time for you to do your job.

Fix it.

Fix it.

You talking about I got my work cut out for me.

You gonna see.

Okay, well how do you feel about Jerry wanting to unlock your phone?

I don't care about that.

Yeah.

'Cause there's nothing in there.

You're nothing in there.

But I ain't asked to unlock hers 'cause I don't care. I don't care whatever she doing.

If I'ma do it, I'ma do it.

Yeah.

You can unlock the door. I don't care what. I don't care what you unlock. If I'm not doing nothing, I ain't doing nothing. I mean, this is real talk.

Yeah, real talk. I feel you, I feel you.

I'm like, I'm 68, what I'm doing on Karamo? I usually sit back and watch y'all. I don't do this. This ain't me.

Well, I'm glad we met you though. I'm glad.

I'm glad to meet you. You are so handsome.

You are so handsome.

Thank you, you're gorgeous too.

Yes, you are. You are like, wait. Now when she come out here, listen to her story.

Okay, well listen, it's time to hear what Jerry has to say. So everyone please welcome Jerry to the show.

Unlock that phone. Unlock it. That's all she worried about.

Ain't nothing in there. Hey, Jerry, how you doing?

How you doing, Karamo?

Thank you for being here.

Yeah, thank you.

I appreciate it.

Come on, my cool friend.

So Jerry, what do you have to say about what you heard?

First of all, she's lying about I drink every day.

I didn't say every day.

4 days a week. I work.

Yes.

I work. I may step on my drink. I didn't start this until her sneakiness started in.

That's when you started drinking?

No, no, I drink.

She always drink, but she ain't tell me that.

I drink.

She drink. She might have one drink, but she'll say, "I'm not a drinker." It doesn't matter. Anyway, you know your mate.

Yeah. Okay?

When habits change, something going on. So the first incident was she go home, she in Jersey. "Why your phone turned off?" 'Cause you keep calling me.

You keep calling me.

I called you the other night. I called you the other night, the phone wasn't off. So this what she tell me. Oh, it restarted and went to airplane mode.

Your phone don't restart.

When your phone restart, don't go to airplane mode.

That happened again.

She gonna tell me this.

All night long. If we a couple, your phone ain't supposed to go off all night long. When you in Brooklyn, it ain't off all night long.

Because I'm mad that she just keep looking at me.

Secondly, the other night we had an argument, two nights ago, right? I start cutting up because the video camera went offline.

On the camera.

You right, 'cause when it's offline, when it's offline, I can't see you going down.

But why is it going offline?

No, also, also, but, so, your phone just rang all night long and then go to voicemail.

Okay, y'all stop umming. So anyway, now secondly, Karamo.

I'm listening to you, I'm listening to you.

When I really start paying attention to detail was I'm talking to her on the phone, I'm watching the video camera 'cause I do that. She goes outside. She goes outside, but we on the phone, right? Now I can hear her talking to somebody, but she ain't talking to me. So now I'm drinking later on that night and I start listening more.

I took the Bluetooth and put it to my ear.

Now I hear her saying to somebody, Walk the block and park.

Why would I do that?

Why would I do that? Karamo, if I'm seeing somebody for real, for real, ain't no way in hell, and I'm paying my bills, and they helping me, why we hiding from her? So why?

Karamo, this is my thing, okay? If you doing something, leave me alone, period.

Cheri, so this is your second chance at love, was it not?

Wait, I love him. I know she do.

It don't seem like love right now.

Karamo, she is so insecure.

Let me tell you something.

I had a second chance in love with her.

And messed it up.

Okay, all right, that's fine.

And messed it all up.

I'm gonna ask you this, I'm gonna ask you this. So she cheated, you cheated, you did something?

Well, not really cheat, Karamo, she, but—

Did I cheat? No, no. The first time when we was together, right? I started using drugs.

Yeah.

So I lost her, I lost a good, my whole life.

That's right.

So now, 30 years later, 30 years later when we get back together.

I get up, yeah.

I'm clean, I'm happy, God gave me a second chance.

A second chance.

You don't get that.

This is my soulmate. You don't get that.

So I come in here, you know what I'm saying? And like I told her then, when you cheating and sneaking around doing drugs, it will seem like you cheating with another person. That's the bottom line. So now—

I'm not worried about no cheating.

Now we back together. And like I said, in the beginning it was fine. This just start happening. And then it just start happening out of nowhere.

Karamo, I can promise you this, I ain't cheating.

Well, Jerry, Zenovia turned over her phone to our Unlock the Phone investigator.

Sure did.

And you wanna know if Zenovia gave a specific woman access to their home internet Wi-Fi, if Zenovia joined a Facebook group called Mature Lesbians Over 50, and if Zenovia has been disarming their Xfinity camera footage. All right, well, I think it's time, Zenovia, for—

Get it, get it, yeah! I think it's time to unlock your phone.

Yeah!

That's right, yeah, yeah, yeah!

All right, Zenovia, We unlocked your phone.

Okay.

Here we go. Okay.

I know.

Jerry wants to know if Zenovia gave a specific woman access to her home Wi-Fi. Zenovia says she did not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her email and found that Zenovia is telling the truth.

Karamo, I ain't got no reason to lie to her. I'm paying them bills.

Okay.

I give you money, so stop talking about you pay the bills.

I will say this, I will say this though.

Who paid them?

I will say this, I will say this, however, my investigator investigator found a new device added to Zenobia's location history, but it doesn't reveal whose device it is. But it's not hers. Yeah.

It's a different one.

However, we found a new device added to Zenobia's location history.

So it has to be Ring.

It's your—

No, it's not Ring.

It has to be.

It's an S24.

That's my phone.

No, yours says Zenobia. It's two different ones. And it logged out on 1/18. Yours logged out today.

You could come get a job with us.

I'm gonna check. Jerry got the time. I'm gonna check. Jerry, okay, Jerry. I don't know what's going on with this. Kids got iPhones. I don't know who it is. Like I said, I don't know.

It doesn't reveal whose device it is, right?

You sure know, 'cause it ain't. But it was in the house.

Jerry, you wanna know if Zenobia joined a Facebook group called Mature Lesbians Over 50. Zenobia says she has not. My Lock the Phone investigator searched Zenobia's phone and found she is telling the truth. She has not joined it.

Why?

Jerry, you wanna know if Zenobia—

You must have lost your mind.

Jerry, you wanna know if Zenobia has been disarming her Xfinity camera footage. Zenobia says she has not.

I don't know how.

My unlock the phone investigator searched her apps and found Zenobia is telling the truth.

Okay.

Yay!

Come on, give it to me!

You told me about the phone! Tell me about the phone!

Well, this is the thing. We don't know whose bike that is. She doesn't know whose the bike is, but I have a bigger question for you. I have a more serious question for you. I appreciate the fact that you all were in love at one point. And the fact that you all had a second chance. But you said to yourself, when habits change, something is going on. Those were your words.

That's right.

And I think what's going on here is that y'all haven't grown together. And so unfortunately y'all have grown apart.

Yeah.

What I'm looking at is two different people in two different spaces of y'all lives. And when you call her your soulmate, I'm gonna tell you this, soulmates don't have to have paranoia. Nope. Soulmates don't have to have a lack of communication. Soulmates don't have to do all the things that are happening right now. If this was your soulmate, you would easily be trusting her. You would know in your heart.

You can't when somebody's lying to you.

See, can you see? But see, what I'm expressing to you is that—

I don't care what you say.

That's why I know that it's not yet. It's not your soulmate.

I respect that.

It's not your soulmate.

This could be somebody that, yes, is a friend. Y'all supposed to be there to support each other, but as in a relationship, this is not it. And I gotta tell y'all, both of y'all, are two amazing people and you're at a place in your life where you deserve to find happiness and love. And the fact that you have to sit up and watch a camera, that would exhaust the hell out of me. Come on, it would exhaust the hell.

You talking about not me? You talking about I'm entertained?

So, okay, so now I know your first toxic trait. You talking about you entertained by doing this, okay.

That's right.

Okay, you know it sure is.

Listen, listen, you both have great personalities. You deserve to find love. This is not it. I've already heard out of your own mouth, you've checked out.

I did.

You've checked out.

Yeah.

So I think at this place, I think you both know, even though there's nothing in the phone, you can fixate on what device that was, but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.

Oh, you're right.

I think y'all should just, this is the end.

Absolutely, go home.

Be done. You know what I mean? Seriously. And I know it's gonna be hard because you have history and stuff like that, but I'm thinking.

What'd you say?

I'm glad you said that. I don't mean to say it's not really, Jerry. I know it might be hard.

I'm telling you.

No, it's not that hard.

Jerry really messed up on some stuff.

But you ready? She ready? Yeah, I'm ready. That's what's up.

Well, listen, again, so she believe you, not me.

No, both y'all need to move on. That's what's coming out of this. And I'm gonna tell you, Jerry, if you get with anybody else and you want to watch their cameras instead, just watch me on TV, okay?