If You Aren’t Cheating, Who Is She?! | KARAMO

So ladies, imagine finding the love of your life booed up with another woman at a Young Jeezy concert. I know, right? And you see this picture of them posted all over social media. Well, my first guest Renee says she can't get this image of her man Chris with another woman out of her mind. And I don't blame her really, to be honest with you. So she called the show asking for my help to unlock his phone. Please welcome Renee to the show. Hi Renee. How are you doing?

I'm good, and you?

I'm good, man. You look super cute.

Thank you, thank you.

You're welcome. So Renee, you said you saw your man at a Young Jeezy concert with another girl.

Yes, so actually what happened was I didn't just catch him, I caught him in the middle of the act. Somebody sent me pictures because the girl was actually posting pictures and videos while they were at the concert. So yes, that is what happened.

That had to have been wild for you to see that in that moment.

I was shocked, I was confused, I was upset. I wanted to punch some walls, I wanted to cry. But as soon as I got the phone, 'cause I got the phone call first that they seen him at the concert with the girl. So I'm like, okay, I'm gonna call you right back. So when I called him, I'm like, don't tell me this is true. Like, are you really at the concert with that girl?

What did he have to say about it? Because we have photo proof. So what did he say?

But he ain't had a photo yet.

Oh yeah.

So it was, No, I ain't there with her. Like, what is you talking about? But as I'm talking to him, the picture comes through in my phone. So I sent it to him and when I sent it to him, of course, you know, he chickened out and he hung up. So.

So what does Chris say about the woman in the photo now? 'Cause you had the photo proof.

It was, oh, I ran into her. So in my head, and we done all been to concerts, it's thousands of people there and you mean to tell me you run into this one particular person. Like that just, it didn't make any sense to me. So I finally kind of got the truth outta him after, you know, like a day or so. But I don't feel like I should've even had to pull teeth to get the truth outta him. It should've just—

Especially when you have a photo.

Yeah, it should've just been, okay, you caught me red-handed, this is what it is. And you know, we could've been on about our day or whatever.

How long have y'all been together?

3 and a half years.

3 and a half years. So this is long-term. So there's deep emotions.

Yeah, we got a lot invested.

Do you have children together?

We have a child together, But together collectively, it's 8 kids.

Yeah. So I know that other women DM'd you messages about relationships with him. Is that true?

It wasn't that, the same person.

Yeah, a different woman?

The same one.

The same woman DM'd you?

Yeah.

So she DM'd you and told you that we were in something?

Yeah, it was like months, months at the beginning of the year. And I got a DM from her saying, "Tell your boyfriend to stay out my inbox." And I didn't respond because, you know, I'm a lady. So I'm like, I need to watch what I say. So like, I ain't even about to give her the satisfaction. I'm just not about to respond. But then she DM'd me again the next day once she couldn't get through to him and she couldn't get through to me. So she DM'd me again. And the stuff that she said, which by this time he had already told me everything, and it was kind of, so what she DM'd me, it wasn't nothing surprising, but it was just the simple fact like, Why are you even doing this as a woman? Why are you even, you know, like I just don't understand.

Talk to me about the box you found in Chris' car.

Well, I found it was like a jewelry package like from Amazon or something and they had this specific name on it and the same name that was on the package is the same person that DM'd me.

So now you're connecting dots and there's jewelry at the end of that.

Yeah, I'm connecting them all the way. And at this point now I'm flipping out and tripping because you told me that this person was a goddaughter to someone that you knew and she worked at a jewelry store and she was getting y'all discounts 'cause he loved his jewelry. So at the moment, did I believe it? Yeah.

Okay everyone, it is time to hear from Renee's boyfriend, Chris. Please welcome Chris to the show.

Hey Chris. Hey, how you doing?

Welcome to the show, man. All right, so you gotta first of all explain the photo of you and the woman at the Young Jeezy concert.

I mean—

And don't gaslight me 'cause I saw the photo, so I know it happened.

Yeah, I mean it happened. I was there at the concert with the bros. We went to the concert and everything and I happened to see somebody that I knew and they tickets was kind of closer than ours. And so we down at the stage and went down there and we just went down there and kicking. She snapped a picture.

But he know this specific person, how she is. She likes to put stuff on social media. That's how he get caught, 'cause she put stuff on social media.

That's 'cause her goon squad always on social media.

What's the goon squad?

I don't have a goon squad.

First of all, it is 2022. When you going through a problem and you call your homegirl and you telling your homegirl about the situation, I don't have to tell them to do anything.

So they don't be searching and looking for stuff on social media? They do that on their own.

Hold on, let me tell you.

I need me a goon squad. I need to introduce everyone to my goon squad. This goon number 1, goon number 2, goon number 3. If y'all see my man doing something, go search for me right now.

But honestly, I didn't even know that my people was following the girl on social media.

Yeah, you had to know that because how else would they know to go follow her?

Hey, they my roommates.

Well then, Chris, if you said you're not cheating on Renee with this woman, how do you explain the DMs?

I mean, there's different DMs just from people that I know. Any DM that she's been seeing, she knew about it beforehand or anything like that. So to be surprised, you know, I'm like, where is this going and why is you doing all this?

So you told my producers that you think Renee is the reason for the problems in the relationship.

For sure. What?

And why? You gotta be serious.

Because Renee likes to put 2 and 2 together and come up with 5. Renee never, never, never—

You gotta be kidding me.

No, that's the truth. That's what it is.

Chris, what else does? Her friends say to you and do?

They just, that's what they do. They follow stuff, put two and two together. Renee even told me she had a tracker on my car so she could, if I pulled up somewhere.

You have a tracker on his car? No. Okay.

So if I pulled up somewhere, she'll know.

I said that because I just was messing with him because it was late at night and he was getting ready to leave and we was in the middle of an argument and I'm like, where is you going? Like, so I told him that there was a tracker, but there's really not a tracker.

So I had to take my car to get it sweeped to make sure it wasn't a tracker on it.

All right, well, I think it's time to take it to my audience, get their comments on this. Y'all got something to say about this? How you doing?

I'm good, how are you?

So what are your thoughts on this?

Renee, I need you to wake up. You being played.

Renee, do you think you playing the fool right now?

Yeah, sometimes I do feel like that. I'm not gonna lie, I'm honest. I do sometimes, yeah.

But how can you be playing a fool on something you never caught me doing nothing? It's just all speculations.

The picture is in the play.

That's a picture of me with somebody.

And a picture is worth 1,000 words.

All right, so what are your thoughts on this?

Now Chris, if you can have a side piece, why can't Raniyah?

Ooh.

Raniyah is grown. Raniyah can do what she like to do.

So your response to someone saying your girl get a side piece side piece is not, I don't have a side piece.

Hold on, hold on.

She said if you have a side piece, why can't she get a side piece? And your response was, she's grown, not I don't have a side piece.

I mean, well, I mean, that was clear. I already said I don't, you know what I mean?

It wasn't clear. It wasn't clear. It wasn't clear.

So if I had a side piece, it would be okay for Renee to have one if that's what she chose to do.

Interesting. Thank you so much. Anybody else? How are you doing? I'm doing all right. Karamo, I gotta comment. Okay. You get a side piece, she gets a side piece, he gets, all of you, you all get a side piece. You get a side piece, Karamo.

Everybody get a side piece.

I'm happy at home with my man, okay? I don't need a side piece. Let me tell you, she said a side piece for everybody. I don't think Oprah approved that one, okay? I'm just letting you know that right now. She did not.

Okay.

All right, listen, let's get back over to Renee and Chris 'cause we gotta unlock this phone and see what's really going on. All right everyone, we are back and it is time to unlock Chris's phone. So Renee, you said you wanted to unlock this phone because you wanna see what's going on. You ready for your man to be honest with you, correct?

Yes.

All right. We have the results. Renee, when it comes to unlocking Chris's phone, Chris would not allow me to unlock his phone.

Like for real?

Yeah.

You like, you serious?

Yeah, I'm serious.

But I mean, but why wouldn't you allow them to unlock your phone? Because what you trying to hide?

Because I just have all kinds of stuff in my phone. I'm not letting nobody unlock it.

But what's that supposed to mean?

Like, but why wouldn't you? I just have boring stuff in my phone. I'm not letting nobody unlock my phone.

But you say you love me, you say you care, but why wouldn't you let them unlock your phone? Like that don't make no sense to me. So I mean, like what is this? What do this mean?

So it means from my perspective, if you wanna know, that he's hiding something.

Well, it just mean a lot of things, but it all rhymes.

So let me be clear. The way that unlocking the phone works here is that we don't search through things. Listen, I'm not the po-po. I don't care. I don't care what's going on in your life. Only thing I care about is facts. I use the facts to help. I use the facts to help discover how I can help your relationship be better. I don't do it in hopes of finding something so you break up. It's in hopes of finding something to say, this is where you are and this is how you move forward. But when you are not able to be transparent or vulnerable, it leaves questions.

That's gonna complicate stuff even more.

So why would it complicate stuff more? What is in your phone that could complicate it?

It is, it is. It's something in my phone, then I have to explain that and explain this and explain that. And then it might not make sense.

What is in your phone that you have to explain?

This is all kind of—

If you don't wanna say it, then just tell us right now what's in your phone that you don't have to explain.

It could be anything. You never know if it could be anything. We have a family, we can't keep doing this back and forth thing. But what?

I haven't lied about nothing. I tell you the truth about everything. I haven't lied about nothing.

But see, the problem is that we don't know that to be true. We don't know that to be true.

All I guess is she should break up with me then.

I know that.

So I'm glad you said that because the thing is, is that I— So listen, I'm glad you said that because at the end of the day, you came on here for help and that is always my intention to make sure you leave here better than I found you.

Right.

I have to ask you, why are you making a decision to be in a situation where you have to avoid the truth or avoid DMs in order to say, well, this relationship is good enough for me to stay in?

To be honest, ultimately, like, I do love him. Like I said in the beginning, like, he has done things to me that no other man has ever made me feel. He lets me know I'm beautiful. I have a problem with my weight. He always tells me like, babe, you're fine, you know?

So because, so because, so I get this because I've dealt with a lot of women who are in this position. Because you have a man who's accepting things that you find as your flaws, because you have a man who's doing things for you and validating your self-esteem like other men haven't, you feel like you have to settle for his behavior that is negative. And so the fact of the matter is that you're saying, well, he calls me beautiful, but at the same time, just 'cause he's calling you beautiful, he's also saying to you that your beauty is not enough for me to be honest with you.

I still don't lie. I don't lie. I may not say something and then if she gotta say something, and then I tell her what it is.

I'm gonna tell you this. I am a very, if anybody who's watched this show, I see both sides in everything. I'm always like, I don't wanna say you a bad guy, you're bad because we're humans and we all have experiences that lead us to where we are. But the fact of the matter is, since you didn't wanna be transparent and show us what's going on, allow me to help you there. The only thing we have to go off of is the proof in front of us, which is a photo of you and another woman at a Young Jeezy concert, a box in a car that you have another woman's address on that is jewelry. The fact that she is getting DMs, all of those are 3 red flags for me that show that there is something going on. I am not a park ranger, but I tell you where there is smoke, there's fire and there's something going on there that lets me know that there is something something happening. And the fact that you're telling me, well, if I open up my phone right now, I have to explain something. What you gotta explain? Thank you.

It's hard. That's hard.

But I'm gonna tell you is what I need you to do from this point on is I'm gonna encourage you to practice your self-esteem. I'm gonna encourage you to understand that just because he makes you feel nice in some ways doesn't mean that he has permission to make you feel bad in other ways. Trust yourself.

Okay.

Okay?

Okay.

I love you and I think you're gonna get this. I believe you.

Thank you.

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