In this episode of Karamo’s relationship intervention series, Karamo sits down with engaged couple Josh and Jessica, who are embroiled in mutual accusations of infidelity. Josh, a traveling carpenter, claims he has seen suggestive photos on Jessica’s phone and believes she is seeing other men while he is away for work. He also reveals that he cheated six months earlier. Jessica denies any recent cheating, explains she stayed with Josh because of family values, their two daughters, and a long‑standing friendship that began in adolescence. Karamo probes both partners, uncovering a pattern of deflection, blame‑shifting, and emotional manipulation. The couple agrees to unlock their phones. The phone audit finds no suspicious texts or photos on Jessica’s device, but discovers three nude photos of Jessica on Josh’s phone, confirming that she had been the subject of unsolicited images. Karamo uses the evidence to highlight Josh’s dishonesty and the impact of his past cheating on Jessica’s self‑esteem. He guides the pair toward accountability: Josh admits to cheating twice, apologizes, and promises to be more present and stop cheating; Jessica expresses love for Josh but also states she may leave if the behavior continues. Karamo offers Jessica empowerment advice, urging her not to tolerate disrespect and to seek support. The episode ends with Karamo’s call to action for viewers and a reminder to subscribe.
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Josh says he is out of town for weeks at a time for his job, and he believes his fiancée Jessica is entertaining other men when he is away. Let's see what he had to say before the show.
Karamo, I really need your help today. This is my fiancée. I don't know if I'm gonna marry her after the show today. I'm trying to understand so I'll know if I need to leave her or if I need to continue with her since we do have a child together and try to forgive and forget. I go out of town for work, I work carpentry. So when I'm gone for work, I do believe my fiancée is cheating on me, I've seen lots of signs. I looked in her phone and I saw pictures that was sent in lingerie and naked pictures, stuff like that. And she's telling me that it was sent on accident. Like, who sends something like that on accident? 4 months ago I got a call, it was one of her friends and he told me he had sex with my fiancée. And she's saying he's lying. You know, it's not really true. I don't know if she's really doing this and she don't want to be with me. And if that's the case, just tell me right here today and I'll be gone. When I unlock her phone, if I find anything on there, then I'm just going to leave because I'm tired of all the games, all the lies, all the cheating. I'm just sick of it all. I just want it all out on the floor right now while we're here. That way, once we leave, it's done and squashed. There's no need You don't need to bring nothing up anymore about nothing.
We heard what he had to say, but you're telling us now that he cheated 6 months ago. What happened?
He did. It was one of his ex-girlfriends.
Did you confront him? Yes.
Eventually he did admit that he cheated.
So when did he start accusing you?
Shortly after that.
Like a week later, a month later?
I would say like a week, week and a half.
Okay.
It was very quickly after that.
Okay. Have you ever cheated on him?
I have not.
Never once?
Never once.
Okay, and after you found out he's cheated, why did you stay?
Because my grandparents, they were old-fashioned. Like, you know, people mess up and make mistakes, but at the same time, like, you just, you try to work it out and you stay together for your family.
Mm-hmm. So because you two have a child together?
Yes, sir.
You don't wanna break up the family?
That, and because, you know, my other daughter, she just lost her father as well. She's gotten used to Josh. You know, I don't want her to lose another father kind of theoretically as well. And because we've known each other since we were kids. I mean, we started as friends like 13, 14 years old.
So you can kind of read him as well?
So I can kind of read him as well.
So he says that you have other men over at the house when he's out of town. Is that true?
The ones that I have aren't interested in me. They're interested in the opposite team. And then—
Hold on, I don't know about that answer. Right, y'all, that sound a little fishy, right? So you are saying you have men over the house?
Not hardly ever. There was one, there was one and he was not like that.
Okay.
And then—
So you're saying that was just a friendship?
Right.
Oh, okay.
And then one, like I said, he came by to see me and I told him that, you know, it wasn't appropriate for him to come visit because Josh wasn't in town.
Got it. And I wouldn't want— And was that guy interested in you, the second one that came?
Yes.
He was interested?
Yes.
But you shut it down?
But I shut it down.
Okay. Do you ever send nude pics to anyone?
I don't.
You know, one at all?
I don't.
Okay. Have you ever sent a nude pic?
If I do take nude pics, it's obviously like for myself or for Josh.
He says a man told him you had an affair 4 months ago. What happened then?
He won't tell me who that man is, so honestly, but I've had him before in the past try to switch things up and be like, oh, I know it is there, I have this proof. But I think it's to just get me to be like, oh, I did it. You know? Oh, I cheated. But I don't have anything to tell him because I would never, I love him to the point where I would never want him to hurt. Like I've hurt. I don't want him to feel the self-esteem issues that he's made me feel. I don't want to think that I have a family that's supposed to be like old times and like grandparents, you know, they stick together and stuff. And then all of a sudden like, oh, I don't even want you. You gave me your child, but you know, our child together, but I wanna go sleep with another girl.
So you want us to unlock his phone. What will you do today if we find something?
Honestly, I can't keep doing it.
So you will leave him?
I truly believe I will.
Okay.
Just because like, you know, it happened once, you try to get over it, you try to, You try to do your best, you know, even when you're trying to work through trust issues and being like crazy yourself because of the trust issues, you know, it's put a lot on me and I have, you know, my children to deal, to have to, I don't wanna set that example for 'em either, you know?
Yeah, how many kids do you have?
We have, I have, well, I have one with Josh and I have one before him.
And they're both girls?
And they're both girls.
I understand even more why there's a responsibility for you to feel like you don't want your, your little girls to mimic this behavior. But I also wanna hear from Josh and see what he has to say about this. So everyone please help me welcome Josh to the show.
I did cheat, I'm not gonna lie, I did. But that was a long time ago and I thought we put that past us.
You did?
Yes.
How many times did you cheat on her?
Twice.
Twice?
Yeah.
Are you cheating on her now?
I'm not, no.
Not at all?
No.
Okay.
And I've never even cheated on you once regardless of what you wanna think.
I got people that's telling me you did. Just tell me if you did or not so we can close this episode.
I'm telling you I didn't cheat on you. I wish I could tell you I cheated on you. You deserve it.
I don't believe you. I don't believe you. I don't believe you.
I don't believe you. I don't believe you. He deserves it.
I'm interested in behavior. Does he normally switch the subject when you ask him questions?
Yes. Yes, he does.
And does he normally walk away?
It's always my fault. He's very good at running away.
Because what I notice here is I ask direct questions and I hope that Josh will come back out. I'm gonna have my producers go back there and talk to him and ask him to come back out because you both have asked for me to unlock your phone so you both deserve the results. But I am noticing a pattern of anytime you would say, "Tell me," he would switch the subject and it felt like you all wouldn't say anything.
That's why I don't think it's anybody. I think it's just him thinking, "Oh well, I did this to her. I know she has to do it back to me." And like I said, he probably deserves it, but I'm not that cold-hearted of a person So when was the second time he cheated on you?
Did you know about that time?
I don't know. That's the first time I was hearing about that.
So that's the first time you heard about that right now?
Yeah.
'Cause I know you were in the moment right now, but I always have to take a pause and really make sure we're processing what is going on on this stage.
That's the first time I've heard of that.
Hearing that, what did that do?
That opened the same wound. It made it worse. You know, 'cause I don't like to be crazy when he comes back. Oh, you cheated on me. Oh, well, why didn't you call me for over 2 hours?
So you're a beautiful woman, I'm gonna tell you that. I'm gonna tell you something. Don't use certain language about yourself because right now you're in a space where you're trying to find answers to protect yourself and to protect your family. And you don't deserve to call yourself things like crazy because you're trying to find those answers.
Thank you. I just want you to know how bad it hurts.
I really do. His choices and the choices that he's made to do things that were disrespectful to you has nothing to do with you. That has to do with the type of man he is. He's changed. He's turned into a different person. Don't blame yourself for someone else's choices. You ready to talk to her? So we gotta go back because you admitted that you had cheated a second time and she said right here that this is the first time she's heard that.
I did cheat a second time.
Yeah, I know. I know.
I know. I don't even understand how you could do something like that.
I thought you knew about it, honestly.
No, I was only dumb enough to find out the second time, right?
Uh-oh. So before we even get to these phone results, actually, you know what? I just wanna get to these phone results for now.
I do too.
Yeah. So unlock these phones. So you both unlocked your phones for me. For me. Are you both ready to see what's in the phones?
Sure.
Okay. All right, Jessica, when we went through your phone, we looked for text messages between you and any other man that were suspicious in any nature. And when it came to text messages, we found zero text messages.
That's right. Yep, that's right.
When it came to photos, we looked through all of her photos to see if there was any suspicious photos in her phone, any that she had sent to any men. At all. When it came to photos, there were zero photos sent to any man at all.
See, I told you. I told you that. Okay.
Now when it came to apps, we did go through all of her apps to see if she was communicating with anyone at all. We found zero suspicious messages.
I told you. I wouldn't want you to feel like I had to feel. I wouldn't break you down like you brought me down.
Jessica, what were you saying to him?
I wouldn't break him down like he's brought me down. You don't do that to people you love.
Well, I apologize for accusing you of it.
Okay, well, Josh, it's time to unlock your phone. Is there anything that you think that I will find in your phone?
I hope not.
'Cause you got a smile on your face.
I hope not, other than what I already told you already that you didn't know.
Jessica, if there's something found in here, What are you gonna do?
I think I'm gonna be done. Hmm.
All right, well.
I can't.
It's time to unlock your phone, Josh. Josh, when it came to your phone, we looked for any text messages between you and any women that could be suspicious in any nature, and we found zero text messages. When it came to applications, between you and anyone talking to see if you had been having any communication with any other women, we found zero apps. That's it. Now when it came to photos between you and any other women that could be on your phone, we did find photos that you had had with women. There was 3 photos. Can someone bring me the evidence back? So there were nude photos that were sent to him that he has been receiving in communication that I want you to see. Is that you at all?
That is.
That is you?
That is me.
That is you? This is you?
That's me.
All of yours?
Yep.
Okay, great. So this is good. We wanna make sure.
Yeah.
We wanna make sure. There was no other nude photos in his phone other than the ones from you. Okay.
Okay.
So this doesn't absolve you from the fact that you have been lying to her.
Right.
And that you have been breaking your lady down. You have to understand that.
I do.
Because though you have been found to not cheat right now, you have openly admitted to doing it twice before in the recent past.
Right. Yes, sir.
I mean, I love you enough to stay with you. I'm gonna try to get through this one because I do love you and we have a child together and it's not fair to Bailey either because you've grown as her daddy as well. And I don't want them to see me with other men. I want them to see me with you.
I'm gonna ask you a very direct question because you're the father of a daughter.
Okay.
And I'm gonna reverse this up for you. If your daughter was sitting right here with a man who had cheated on her, what would you tell your daughter?
To leave him.
Mm-hmm. There it is.
Yep.
Yes, sir.
So your daughter is watching this behavior. Your daughter is understanding that dad doesn't respect mom. Dad is cheating on mom. And you just said as a man, you know you would tell her to leave.
Yes, sir, I would.
So then why are you cheating someone else's daughter like this?
Probably your son.
'Cause I'm gonna tell you, I understand the impulses you may have in the moment, but are those impulses worth your daughters one day calling you dad and saying, "Dad, I'm with a man who treats me wrong, who's breaking down my self-esteem, who is cheating on me." Is that what you wanna hear one day?
No, sir.
Well, I'm gonna tell you right now, everything you do to their mother, they're gonna think that's proper and that should be done to them. Just letting you know that.
Yes, sir. You're right.
I've done many shows where I have had people who have sat in front of me and said, "I watched my father cheat. I watched my father do this." and they did the same thing.
Yes, sir.
So I'm asking you clearly, do you really want that to happen to your daughter?
I don't, no, sir.
You have broken this woman's self-esteem. What do you have to say to her?
I'm very sorry and I promise I will only get better or try to get better.
She says that she wants to feel secure and she doesn't feel secure. And you understand why. You have not allowed her to feel secure. You've been over here accusing her, making her feel as if she's done something wrong, using it as a manipulation tactic because you cheated.
Right.
What are you gonna do to make her feel secure?
Start being there for you more than I am and try to be a better man than what I have been to you. And definitely not gonna cheat no more.
I hope not. I can't handle anything else.
I do love you.
I love you.
Jessica, I'm gonna tell you this because though this is somewhat of a happy ending, it's not the happy ending that you deserve. And I'm gonna tell you that because if he ever again accuses you or makes you feel bad about the beautiful woman that you are, you have to find the courage in yourself to say enough.
I love you.
Okay? And if you ever hear him say something to you that is going to make you feel You're down about yourself. I want you to call me and I'm gonna give you the words to say to him.
Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
Because it's time you have somebody on your side.
Thank you.
You've been doing right. It's time that you know that you are a good woman. It's time that you have somebody who's supporting you. Don't accept this anymore. Don't accept this behavior. You hear me?
I hear you.
You sure? All right, listen, I want you to do better.
Yes, sir.
I want you to do better because she deserves better, but also those little girls deserve to grow up in a house where they don't think that this is how men should treat a woman.
All right?
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