I'm 20, He's 35 & I Pay ALL The Bills (But He Cooks?) | KARAMO

So Makyla, he asked you to buy him a sandwich the first day y'all met?

Yes, 2 to 3 times and I finally gave in. I told him to text my phone number about what he wanted.

Yeah.

So he did and then I forgot to make the sandwich.

Okay.

So the next day I did brought it, but he gave it away to somebody else.

What?

Yes. What?

Yes. So he begged you for a sandwich?

Yes, he begged me for a sandwich just to give it away because I made it wrong. But I was in a rush. What?

Okay. So you got together in March and y'all already on my show?

Yes.

What, girl, it ain't that far from March.

What happened?

I don't trust him.

Okay, you don't trust him. Trust issues. All right, I hear you. Is that it? Just point back trust issues?

I don't trust him because when we got together, it was females in his phone.

Okay, so we got February 20th.

February 20th we got together.

Okay.

Yes. Then March 3rd.

Hold on, he moved in March 3rd.

Yes, it was quick. It was quick. It was fast and it was quick. He had nowhere to go. So I told him he could move in.

March 10th, y'all pregnancy test?

Not my pregnancy test.

He got pregnancy texts?

I call him, texted some girl named, telling my son, I know your stomach big, is it a boy or girl? So I asked him about it.

Ex-wife text?

What? Yeah.

Yo, what is going on? Hold on, I didn't see this before, y'all. That's why I'm shocked. What is going on? Okay.

So ex-wife? He got an ex-wife?

Yes, he got an ex-wife.

And you didn't know?

Well, he told me about it, but he said they was getting the divorce finalized. But he gotta keep in contact with her in order to get it finalized. They texting each other, "I love you," and all that, and you with me.

And then a mystery girl on April 20th?

I don't even know the mystery girl. The girl just rolled past us, talking about some, saying whatever out the window, talking about, "I see you with your new girlfriend," on Easter. On Easter.

Not on Jesus Day.

Yes.

Yes.

Oh, no. And now September 18th, y'all over here on the Karamo Show?

Mm-hmm.

I'm still gagged by March 3rd move in. It'd have been March 20th, March 3rd, if he would've had to move in by March 10th, if I would've got that, it would've been March 11th move out.

Right? Yeah.

Why he moving so quickly? I'm still stuck on that.

He asked me, did I want to build soon when he moved in?

I'd have been like, build what?

A staircase? Do you want to build?

What you want to build?

What you want to—

OK. Is that the way that y'all saying it nowadays?

No.

OK.

Listen, I'm asking the brothers here.

And he looked at—

he talking about, nope, that is not what we do. We do not ask like that. OK, I just want to check. Does he help you pay bills?

No, I do all that by myself, but he does cook. He wash the dishes, but I do everything else. Yes.

Well, how old are you?

I'm 20.

And how old is he?

35.

He's 35?

35.

35, okay. Do you know for certain that the baby isn't his or not?

He don't even know if it's his.

Wow. Okay, so there could be a part 2 of this where y'all have to come out with this woman with a baby, okay.

I hope not.

So since March, what other issues have you been having in your relationship?

I catch him just randomly looking at females and then he claimed that's his peoples and then I'll be like, okay, then when I ask again, he be like, I don't know that person. And then every time I walk away or whatever, he get my attention by calling me, hey, I'm not your friend, I'm your girlfriend, not your friend. But when he see another female, he call her by her name. I don't like that.

But he calls you A?

Yeah. That A? Get my attention.

Oh. Is he controlling?

Yes.

In what ways?

Just like last night, I wanted a separate room. He ain't want me to get a separate room because we came out here together. But my thing is, if you get under my skin, I need a separate room because if I hurt you and we out here, I could go to jail. I'm not trying to go to— This is not my city. Like, no.

I could go to jail.

I don't know. I could go to jail.

Yeah, girl, you could go to jail. I'm glad you didn't. Did you get your separate room?

Nope.

He didn't let you get your separate room?

No.

Oh, 'cause we would've gave you a separate room.

They booked it, but he just didn't want me to go.

Okay, I know, 'cause I'm like, if you want a separate room, we'd have gave you a separate room.

They booked a separate room. He just ain't want me going in a separate room.

Wow, okay. Well, listen, I heard your side of the story and I wanna be fair and I wanna give Anthony chance to tell his side of the story. So everyone please welcome Anthony so he can tell us his side of the story.

How you doing?

Welcome to the show, Anthony. Thank you for being here, man.

Glad to be here.

Yeah. All right, so let's go back. Anthony, are you still married?

No.

No.

No.

Okay. Do you have the paperwork to show you're not married?

Nope.

Yeah.

Do you?

I ain't see it. Not here presently, but it's at the house.

But I ain't see it.

I told her.

I ain't see it.

Okay. Is your shirt tan?

Huh?

Is your shirt tan?

No.

Your sweater, is it tan?

Yeah, yeah, the jumpsuit.

Okay, the sweatsuit, okay. Do you have another girl pregnant?

No.

No, okay. Nah.

Okay. But I do have a lot of fans. Like a lot of females, they, we all cool.

We cool.

We just cool.

So what was your point of texting her talking about is her stomach fat and is it a boy or girl? But that's not your baby. I don't get that part.

I don't even remember.

You don't remember that?

Uh-huh.

You don't remember a lot of things.

Are you cheating on her?

No. That's the whole point why we came here for.

You're not cheating on her?

No, it's good gentlemen out here. It's real men.

You don't gotta worry about it.

But you're not a good gentleman.

Okay. Are you controlling?

Yes.

No.

Yes.

It's the other way around.

Yes.

You think she's controlling? Tell me from your opinion.

Don't know. Don't know.

That's not true, that's not true.

Don't know.

She controlling. It's always, like last night, controlling. You debating, you get into an argument, you start an argument on purposely and then like during the debate you start— Because I'm gonna get my own room, you know? So I wanted to make sure I was safe.

Why won't you get your own room? 'Cause you're still in the same hotel. You could just went next door and checked on her and said, "You all right?" And went back to your room. Insecure.

Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be honest. I'm insecure with safety. I really am.

No, you just insecure, period.

No, that's not true.

Yes, it is. Yes, you is.

Okay, it's the other way around.

No, it's not.

My producers told me that you've been arguing since you got here.

Is that true? 'Cause like I keep saying, he compared me to a dead person.

You ever seen what I did to a dead person?

Bro, so I guess I called him a bitch.

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

I called him a bitch. So he brought up my ex and I said, why you keep bringing up my ex? I don't bring up your baby mama. So he compared me to his baby mama. But like I keep saying, She's no longer here. If I don't bring her up, why'd you keep comparing me to a person that's no longer here?

His child's mother has passed away?

Yes.

Okay, okay, got it.

She got assassinated a few years back.

Okay, got it. So Anthony, you called the show why?

Because to prove that I'm a real gentleman and I ain't cheating and I don't know about all these other females. I don't know nothing about no, none of that.

So all the messages that was in your phone was just lies?

Nah.

Nah, so I'm right.

So you have cheated and texted with other people?

No, I ain't cheat nothing.

Okay, you didn't cheat anything. Okay, well listen, it's time to unlock your phone.

Unlock, unlock, unlock, unlock, unlock, unlock.

Well Anthony, we unlocked your phone.

Go ahead.

Is there anything you wanna confess first?

Ain't nothing to say that she don't already know.

Makyla, you wanna know if Anthony is having inappropriate conversations with someone named? Anthony says he is not. My locked-up phone investigator searched his texts and found he is telling the truth.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Makayla, you wanna know if Anthony is talking to other women? Anthony says he is not. My locked-up phone investigator searched his apps and found that he is telling the truth.

Thank you.

Oh, y'all ain't doing no digging. Y'all ain't digging right. Y'all ain't digging right.

Y'all ain't diggin' right.

Y'all ain't diggin' right. Y'all ain't diggin' right.

Listen, Makyla, you wanna know if Anthony is cheating. Anthony says he is not. My locked phone investigator searched his phone and found 236 web searches, but it's for a new apartment. Why you look for an apartment if you already have a place to stay?

Well, we can upgrade. You always upgrade, upgrade, upgrade. upgrade.

Okay, so you searching for apartment.

She know about it, though.

Okay, you know he's searching for an apartment?

Yeah, I know. We was both searching for apartment today.

Oh, great.

Thank you.

So can I give my gentleman applause or something, y'?

All? Thank you.

I don't do nothing. I dedicate everything to you.

Okay, so do I think Do I think that Anthony has a wandering eye? Yes. Do I think that Anthony will allow things to be inappropriate? Yes. Do I think that he's crossed the line? No. I'm gonna tell you something. Let me tell you why, let me tell you why, let me tell you why. So I read body language and I do things on purpose, which is I can already tell his tail's for lying. Which is why earlier I asked you if that shirt was the color I asked you to see how you would respond. Because when you lie, you do this. That's your tell.

Oh, don't worry, you don't watch it back. You don't watch it back.

I don't lie, I don't lie.

And so I was gauging on the things that when I would say, did you cheat? You wouldn't do that. But when you would say like, yeah, I held the door open, or yeah, maybe I sent a text, or yeah, oh, the girl, the, the, the, You lied on those things. But what I can tell you more than that is what's going on in this home life is super unhealthy. I think that y'all rushing something too quickly. I think that you were in a vulnerable situation and you saw somebody who just got out of a relationship and you knew that you could manipulate your way into this so that she could take care of you.

Nah, not at all.

So then if that's not the case, why you don't have a job or apartment and you 35?

Nah, I can't work. I got disabilities.

What happens with your disability check?

Yeah, I get that. But they cut it off these past two months, just now got it back on. Ask her what we do.

Okay, so what I'm saying to you is I do respect if you have some disability. I will never make fun of that. But what I do know is individuals, because I worked in social services, that you're gonna be getting some type of assistance. Then that assistance, she just said that when you're in the house with her, you have not paid anything. So even if you, those were her words, and she said you haven't paid nothing.

You pay some bills. No, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

My point being here is that at 35, with or without a disability, there should be some trying to help and support in the household.

Right.

And so that's why I can come to the conclusion and feel confident in the fact that you saw someone who was 20 years old and said, oh. I do also know that because of the way that you established a relationship, it was a dominance, it was a power play. You said, make me a sandwich, She said yes, and then when she made it for you, you said it's wrong. That is a part of manipulation and control. It's textbook almost. What you talking about, no?

You can't eat nothing that you don't—

What you talking about, no? I'm telling you, that is textbook. I'm gonna get in your head. I'm gonna tell you this.

No, it wasn't it.

Makyla, I need to know from you. What was your home life growing up?

My mama always had something going on, you know, fighting and abusing and stuff like that. I grew up like that.

Okay, so I wrote that down. Because I could already tell that. And that's the reason I asked that question because your behavior is mimicking that. And this is common. And I'm sorry that you did not get to witness a healthy household because now you're trying to figure out at 20 how to make that happen on your own. I see you getting emotional. What's going on? It's okay.

It's okay. 'Cause all I could do was just, I don't know, if I see something wrong, I just yell at him about it, go at him about it. But it's the fact that when you came in my house, bro, you was texting all these females. Now you want me to be nice and all? No, I can't do that.

I get it, I get it, I get it. But I wanna stick on this because what I want you to understand is that you can have your own breakthrough.

You should've left it in the past then.

What you all don't see and what I see is this is a young woman who was in a household where this is what she wanted to scream to the men that your mother dealt with. Am I right? Okay. But that's only going to hurt you. And so what I would encourage you to understand is that yes, you deserve love and you deserve security. You do too. I'm not saying you don't. You deserve those things. I believe this relationship should end. You should not be in this relationship. And if you have the courage to end this relationship and ask him to leave your house, take a year or two to be with you. Realize how great you are.

Oh, calm down, buddy.

Can you go to the back? Yeah, you go to the back. You go to the back. Let me go to the back real quick.

I don't know.

This is how we going in.

Ooh.

Right, right. But yeah.

In young love, I'll say this, is we think, oh, we gotta build together.

Uh-uh.

I'm gonna build myself, you build yourself, and then we gonna make sure that we are matched, equally yoked. But you're saying, are we down here? That old adage of we both at the bottom, let's try to build up, that don't work. Y'all both gonna keep trying to figure out and y'all gonna be in cycles. So what I encourage you to do is build yourself. Find yourself in a moment where you can say, I'm standing on my own two feet, I'm doing this.

Right, right. That's why I made the decision is to see what's going on. 'Cause we agree we gonna work regardless. But the—

Well, no, she said y'all, she done.

Oh yeah, this TV.

But the whole thing was that. Oh, so what you just displayed right there again is the manipulation I told you before and the control. You just said this is TV, which means you're not respecting her decision.

I'm not about to let another, no disrespect to yourself, I'm not about to let another man ruin my life. You can't tell me what to do with mine. Your opinion is considered rated. Don't give me wrong, I take your opinion in consideration.

So what I'll tell you this, is the man that you sit in front of is actually here to build your life up. So I actually have the skills. So nothing I've given you is to ruin your life, it's actually to help you. But because you don't want yet to be on your own and do what I suggested, of course it's gonna seem like I'm ruining it. So with that being said, I wish you the best of luck, I really do. All right, make sure to come back, friends, so we can keep talking and growing. I love you all.