I’m Dating You… But Fighting Your Ex! | KARAMO

Tell me what's going on with this ex.

Well, for the past 5 years, she's just been a living hell, to be honest. In every way possible, she's sent me to jail, she's made false allegations on me, she—

She sent you to jail, girl? Hold on. What else she do? Hold on.

She took a hammer one day, I was at Terrell's house, and just went around my car beating on it. My son has autism and she talked about him. My brother is deceased. Talked about my brother being deceased. Just anything possible, anything negative she's done to me.

Hold on, so how did you first come in contact with the ex? Because usually if it's an ex, the ex stay in they place because your partner's not toxic to them.

Right, that's right.

So how did you come into contact with?

So one day I was at Terrell's house and we were about to go to sleep and so I'm hearing music outside and I'm like, I wonder who that is. And then his back door just busts open 'cause she bust in the door. And so she comes in, tries to fight me, but he gets in between us or whatever. And so they're tussling and rustling or whatever. So I jump out of the back door and that's kind of how that was initiated.

[Speaker:KARAMO] That was your first meeting?

[Speaker] Right.

[Speaker] And how long ago, how long into the relationship was this?

[Speaker] Probably like 2 months.

Now you know what I'm gonna say to you. 2 months in and this happened, you ain't think, well, maybe I don't need to be here.

I did. I did. I just felt like I met Terrell at a time that I was vulnerable. I had just lost my brother, so he kind of filled that void when—

Makes sense. Okay, I understand. Grieving will sometimes make you not see the things that are in front of you, so I understand. To understand that. Do you think Terrell had been leading this woman on?

Of course.

Do you think he's still leading this woman on?

Yes.

Okay.

I mean, when I call him, like, I live in Texas, he lives in Louisiana, so if I call him about our children, she answers, or she'll say, "Oh, he just," or just so many vulgar things, or, "Your son's," "Oh, we just had sex, his," of course Terrell denied it. It's just stuff that just doesn't make any sense.

She got a mouth on her.

She does, she do, she do.

Why do you live in different states though?

I've been in Texas 3 years, so I moved away kind of to get away from that situation. And every time I try to get away from the situation, he'll email me sad messages or he'll leave sad voicemails on my thing. So he'll come to Texas and then play house and then go back to Louisiana, play house with her and other women.

Got it. And now that we understand that you have a child together.

I have twins.

Twins together. So that also, I can understand now why when he comes back, the family's there, it makes it a little bit harder. Okay, how many other women does he have children with?

So he has a total of 7 baby mothers. But that's outside of all the other women.

And you said he got you pregnant to trap you?

Yeah, like he knew my brother, so I feel like he has some vendetta against my brother. And I just felt like he wanted to ruin my life.

Oh, wow. Wow, wow. Do you still feel like he's trying to ruin your life?

Yeah.

You do?

Yeah.

Okay. And what happened this summer with Terrell's family reunion?

So he tries to do this thing where he'll FaceTime me to try to prove that he's not doing anything or send me videos. And so he sent me a video like of like the event or whatever and he's going around, but I see the ex's car But he goes and says, "Oh no, that was his brother's car." But I've never seen his brother in that vehicle.

Got it, okay. And you blocked him from your phone last year?

Yeah.

Why?

With Terrell and the ex, she'll answer, "Oh, like I said, he, why are you calling him? You're ugly. He said you're ugly." I mean, like, it's just childish stuff.

And you're just calling to co-parent at that point?

Right.

'Cause you have twins together?

Right.

Okay then. So you believe that he's also been cheating with other women?

Right.

Okay, and you said how many?

Oh God, I don't know, but I mean, it's so many.

Got it. And what did Terrell text another one of his exes?

He text, he needed his medicine. So when he says that, well, he doesn't say that to me, but to other women he was talking about he needs to have sex.

So girl, why you still with Terrell? Right? Right.

I just, I just, I just want my kids to have their father. And so I do put up with a lot of stuff that I know I don't deserve, but I just want them to have that. And it is no co-parenting with Terrell, like outside of a relationship, so.

Okay, I understand. Well, you know what? We've heard your side of the story. You know, I try to be fair and impartial on this show. So it's time to hear Terrell's side of the story. So everyone please welcome Terrell to the show so we can hear his side. Terrell, how you doing, man?

How you doing, Karamo?

Thank you for being here. So I gotta first start, what's going on with you and the ex?

Nothing.

Nothing at all?

No, I try to be a father to my kids.

Okay.

You know, I'm not perfect. I'm not saying that I haven't done anything wrong and stuff like that, but I feel like it's mainly because of how she treats me, you know? Yeah.

And how does she treat you?

I feel like she's in love with a guy that's in jail and God knows whoever else because we could be doing good one moment and all of a sudden everything just chaotic. I feel like once she get a text or a call or something.

Okay, before we get into any of that, I gotta still stick on this ex for a minute because what she has said is that this ex has called her, said derogatory things about your child. The child you two share together. She's also said derogatory things about her, her appearances. She's also said things that you all are doing sexual. Is it true that your ex is disrespecting her like this?

I mean, yes, but I mean that has nothing to do with me.

He doesn't correct it.

He doesn't correct it.

He never said anything about my son, nothing.

Nobody else does.

I disagree a little bit when you say you can't control that because, because if, especially when it comes to, to your child. If somebody that I was talking to had a relationship prior ever said one thing about one of my sons, it'd take one time, just one.

But see, it kind of goes back and forth.

Okay, well I just wanna let y'all know, my producers did try to reach out to the ex, but you said you wouldn't give us her contact information.

Yeah, because I mean, I feel like she wouldn't do the show.

She would do the show.

Well, you didn't give her the option. I mean, and the only reason I would've wanted to talk to her, because you know, my intention is here to help figure out how to co-parent so that these kids could have to have the best relationship possible. And if her behavior's interfering with your co-parenting journey and also is causing chaos for all these kids, then her opinion and her view of how the situation's being handled is important as well. But I guess from now we'll just have to talk to you two. So is it true that Joni's damaged some of your cars?

Yes.

How many of your cars has she damaged?

Two.

Two, in what ways?

I was coming home one day from work and she was upset about, Something.

About what? About the ex, right?

She always accuses me of saying that I want the ex and stuff like that. So she sit up there, she'll get mad. I'm on my way from home from work. I don't wanna argue and fight with you. So I would sit up there and just go to my house. I was going to my, I was coming from work, I'm sorry. Right.

And then you got caught.

So I'm trying to explain that.

So I'm on my way home and she runs into, try to turn around.

She's following me. I try to turn around and she runs into the side of my car because I don't wanna fight with you. This is not because I'm frustrated because it's always the accusing, it's always the saying.

How often do you two argue?

All the time.

All the time.

She pushes me away, I feel like, you know? And every instance, like I try to sit up there and come to Houston and be with her and stuff like that and she just pushes me away.

Got it. Well listen, you all have given me enough information for me to understand the dynamic of this relationship. So I think it's time to unlock the phone. Joni, we unlocked your phone. All right, here we go. Taryll, you wanna know if Joni is talking to anyone named or. She says she is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her texts and found that Joni is telling the truth. Taryll, you wanna know if Joni has hidden dating apps on her phone. She says she does not. My locked phone investigator searched her apps and found that Joanie is telling the truth. Cheryl, you wanna know if Joanie is communicating with any other men. She says she is not. My locked phone investigator searched her calls and found that Joanie is not telling the truth. We found 17 calls to her ex in prison. One of them was less than 3 weeks ago. "My investigator also noted that she did delete her entire web search history before turning over her phone." No, I do that all the time. Oh, you do that all the time? Yeah, that's not new to me. Okay then. So you're still in communication with your ex as well? He knows that.

Who's in jail?

Okay. And what's the nature of that relationship?

That's my friend.

That's your friend?

I mean, I paid $15,000 so he wouldn't get 99 years in prison. That's my friend. He in prison. He been in prison for 8 years.

So this is not somebody you even could be intimate with or anything?

No, that's a lie.

Okay, well shout out to everybody in jail. Y'all watch the show and I appreciate it, okay? Shout out, okay? Well listen, Terrell, we unlocked your phone. All right, Joni, you wanna know if Terrell is engaging in any explicit activity online. He says he is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his apps and found that Terrell Is not telling the truth. He visited 24 porn websites in the last 3 weeks, including one just 2 days ago.

Oh, that's not true. That's not true.

Was that an agreement that you couldn't do that?

She not doing nothing, so I try to, you know, that's my personal business.

Listen, I ain't judging, okay? I don't judge. Listen, we grown. All right, Joni, you wanna know if Terrell is communicating with any other women? He says he is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his DMs and found that Tero is not telling the truth. We found several different messages between him and 9 different women. Oh no. Yeah, no, no, there's 9 different women.

Not that I'm dealing with or nothing like that. I mean, I told her, like me and her, we haven't been together really in months. So like I do conversate with, women and something, but it's not like I'm with them or be with them or committed to them.

Okay. But just a minute ago you was upset that she said her friend in jail is just a friend.

All right, I understand that. But what I was saying about the guy in jail and stuff like that, like you started leading him on and then you carrying my kids in your stomach and stuff like that and this man blowing up your phone like y'all married.

But that was too long time ago.

But you don't want me to talk to nobody.

Okay.

You know what I'm saying?

There's a bit of a double standard right here. But Joni, you wanna know if Taryll has been communicating with any of his ex. He says he is not. My locked-up phone investigator searched his phone and found that Taryll is not telling the truth. There were 61 messages and phone calls between Taryll and 2 of his exes, including 1 invite to a hotel room and 1 And one where Terrell is accused of giving them an STD. How I gave you chlamydia and Ian been with you, it's been both of the months since I slept with you. So stop lying, Ian gave you, better check your baby mamas you been having at your house, don't start me. You need to go get treated.

Yeah, and that's a good topic. I'm glad y'all brought that up because I feel like, I don't know where that came from, like to be honest.

How you gonna say brought up the good topic and then say you don't know where it came from? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You crazy for that. I thought you about to drop some like, you know what?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Y'all saying like she innocent and all that, bro, that can't be true. You know what I'm saying?

You can't switch the subject. So look, I'll say, so I've already picked up your pattern. You first will deflect by focusing on someone else's behavior instead of focusing on your own. And then secondly, you'll downplay your negative behavior by playing up someone else's behavior. Almost similar, but both different tactics.

I'm not saying that. Like, okay, with the STD and stuff like that, I feel like, you know what I'm saying? Like somebody had to be doing something I didn't get to myself. You know what I'm saying? I understand that. She the one sit up there and brought it up and stuff like that and telling me that I gave it to her. But how can you sit up there and say I gave you something You felt like it showed up in 5 days.

So, but here we go. So what the question here is not about the STD. What the question here is about you dealing with other women and your response earlier.

But I only deal with other women. I never denied that. The only thing I said about other women, like she fucked other women.

So again, someone can't fuck other women. That's a self-choice. You have to make the choice. I can be in a relationship where somebody is rude, mean, do whatever.

So you sound like somebody, you got a woman right here that's treating you like trash and you got this woman with open doors doors and stuff like that.

Then you leave the woman who's treating you like trash and go to the woman with open doors. But see, what you're doing is you're keeping both doors open and you're going back and forth. And what, from her point of view, is she's saying that because there's children involved, she feels like she has to engage in this behavior because you're gonna cause chaos between you and the kids.

No, that's not true.

Well, that's what her point of view is.

Man, that's, oh man, that's—

Okay, so sir, what I'm just gonna encourage you to do is you two have to co-parent. And so what I want you to do when you leave the stage is say, we are done. I don't need to have no relationship with you. I don't need to be in there. I need to be with kids. See, that's a change of behavior. Now when the other girl who's the ex at home, you say to her, listen, you don't call this woman about anything. You go through me.

She don't call her.

So you say you go through me and I will make sure that I manage that we co-parent together. I'm gonna ask you once you leave the stage to change your behavior because your children are depending on it.

All right, I agree.

All right, thank you for being here. Everyone at home, make sure to come back next time, friends, so we can keep talking and growing. I love you.