I'm Her MAN...But She Calls Me a FRIEND! | KARAMO

Tell me, why do you believe your girl is cheating?

'Cause she been since, well, we were here once before. Her and her mom.

Oh, okay.

I'm gonna be honest with you.

Oh, you were sitting in the audience? Yeah.

Oh, I remember you. Yes, brother, yes.

So whatever—

Her mother was backstage rolling around crazy, right?

Yeah, yeah.

I remember, okay.

Besides that though, I feel like it opened, I feel like being on the show opened up other doors for her. And the secret, she was already secretive before.

Yeah.

But it just got worse since the show.

Got it.

And it's to the point now to where it's like, I'm not doing this no more. If you gonna keep being secretive and doing all the sneaky stuff, then let me go my own way.

So it's the secretive and the sneaky stuff that believes you, why you believe she's cheating. What else do you have?

In her phone, like one time we was asleep, when she go to sleep, I look at it because she get mad if I look at it in her face.

Yeah.

Like she be like going hard. You don't gotta do all of that.

Yeah.

If it's something, if I wanna see something, let me see it. 'Cause in my phone, I give you my phone to look at it all the time.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But she have a problem with me looking at her phone. So I look at it when she sleeping. Sometimes I be, not no sometimes, it's a few times where I seen stuff that I was just like, nah.

From your opinion, do you think she's ever emotionally cheated?

Yeah.

Okay, when?

It was like in 2022. We went back to her mom's house for like a day. We left there and went to my sister house. And at that time I had lost my identification card, lost my social and my birth certificate. So I was unable to work. So it was like a month, 2 months in, you know, I'm depressed, I'm down, I'm feeling bad. I'm looking for you to help me. But instead of you helping me, you, she went and got a job with this supposedly sister that I don't like because that's the one who was helping her and encouraging her to go and cheat. Now, I'm gonna tell the story like she do. So boom, what happened was, so what happened was, Her phone rings, she jumped up, ran. I'm like, what you do all of that for? So I let her talk for like 3 minutes. I heard a dude voice, hey baby, what you doing? Nah, got you. So I got up, kicked the door in, boom, who you talking to? What is you doing? She like, I'm not doing nothing. So I slapped her phone out her hand and it fell in the tub. I grabbed it, took off, ran downstairs. She came down, she was like, give me my phone back, fighting me and everything. I'm like, you know what I'm saying? Move, let me read this. And I couldn't really read it for real 'cause I was so busy fighting her off.

Trying to hold her back.

And the message was like, "I will talk to you when my friend not around." Who the fuck is your friend?

Friend, yeah.

Who the fuck is your friend?

I'm not no friend. How long have y'all been together?

We've been together 4 years, but before we started dating—

4 years.

Y'all know that.

4 years to be called a friend.

Yeah, that pissed me off 'cause—

Of course I wanna hear her side to this, but 4 years, From your, like, to be called a friend, that'd make me have an attitude.

Yeah, I wanted to fight everybody in the house.

Yeah. Well, you told me on "Lock the Phone Investigators" that you want to know if Ana is communicating with other men. Mm-hmm. And that's basically it.

Mm-hmm.

All right, well, I think it's time to hear Ana's side of the story. So please welcome Ana to the show.

That's my baby right here.

You said that's your baby right here?

Yeah, look at her.

Hi, good to see you again. Good to see you again. Good to see you.

You got your hat on.

They didn't let me know you was coming. I didn't know. Good to see you. I'm here.

Good to see you.

Well, first of all, we start, how you and your mama doing?

Thank you for having us. And we are taking the steps to make it a better relationship. But you know, that's a work.

Okay. But it's still a lot of work in progress. Yes. Okay. I ain't gonna lie, I was mad when your mama went backstage and acted a fool after all the stuff I told her about it needed to be about you. And then she went backstage and made it about her.

Oh, that's her.

Yeah. I was like, y'all could go check this episode. Maybe we'll put up a little clip. But she literally, I literally said, Your daughter needs it to be about her. And then she went backstage and acted a plumb fool.

You know that. But it's going down today.

Exactly.

Accurate.

You toxic.

I am not. Thank you. Clock it.

I did. I clocked it already. Clock it. He said all this stuff about you, and then when he came out here, he's like, my baby, and kissing your hand right now.

I do. I love her though. But it's just certain stuff that I just can't— I wouldn't deal with. You wouldn't deal with it if you—

But then if I don't say I'm gonna deal with it, I also wouldn't be grabbing their hand, kissing on it.

Yeah, well, it's different. I love this girl to death. I just told you that.

Okay, well listen, how do you feel about what he just said then? So? Okay, tell me, girl.

You lying. You be lying. Don't even, you painted yourself out here to be this victim.

I'm not.

And you're not, baby.

I know.

You really not. You be doing some shiesty, foul stuff that I wouldn't even be doing to you.

Like what? Like what?

Like what? The name calling, the disrespect.

You do it too.

No, I don't. I don't disrespect you, especially the way you do me. You talk to me like I'm a nobody. You don't talk to me like I'm your woman of 4 years.

Is that true? Do you speak to her disrespectful?

I don't feel like it. I mean, I've heard myself say some disrespectful things, but then when I catch myself, I always come back and apologize for it because I've been trying to work on how I talk to her for like the past 2 months.

So I gotta ask you directly because his concern is that you're cheating. Are you cheating?

No, I am not cheating, Karamo. He's taking a situation that happened from 2 years ago and he's holding it over my head. Okay, so boom, since we here, that's how I tell the story, right?

So boom. That's how the story.

I'm working at this factory. So I met this guy, we was cool, kicking it, talking or whatever. He like, "You wanna link up one day, we can go smoke." Yeah, we can go smoke. You know, it ain't nothing wrong with that. I'm not doing nothing.

Yeah.

So yeah, we can. And I went to go smoke with him and he found out about it and ever since then he's been thinking I cheated with him. 'Cause we're not going to smoke.

We are going to link up at. You went to the dude's house, right?

No, I did not.

Where y'all go?

We went to my sister's house.

Did you, before you went with this guy to go smoke, did you call him and say, "Hey, I have a coworker, we're gonna go smoke." and this is where we're going.

No, I didn't.

So there's a breakdown. I want you to understand that. That's the breakdown. Because the behavior is not controlled. Now, if you would've said, I'm going here, I'm communicating with you what's going on, and he said, no, you come home, you're not allowed to have this. But what happened is that you didn't give him full transparency. So now he finds out after and it's like, well, now you can't tell me who to hang with. Well, I didn't get even a chance to tell you who to hang with. You didn't tell me nothing. You get what I'm saying on that?

Right. That's understandable.

So what else does he accuse you of? Why you look like that?

Because she telling you it's understandable, but at home she be like, "I don't wanna hear that, shut up. You shouldn't be, don't touch me about nothing." Y'all got history.

She and I ain't got history. She and I ain't got history. Y'all got history, so y'all can hear me.

First of all, let me and Uncle Karamo have a conversation.

Thank you, listen.

Instead of you being, yeah, thank you.

I appreciate you referring to me as Uncle Karamo. I'm here for you.

Always.

I love you.

I'm here for you. I'm here for you. I adore you too.

Period.

Do you think he's cheating?

I don't think he's cheating physically, but I think he's emotionally cheating.

Got it. Okay. Okay. Why you smiling?

Clock it. Clock it.

Clock that?

Clock it.

How you went right in his smile? This is why I said earlier he toxic. Y'all didn't see that?

Very toxic.

Well, I think it's time to unlock the phone. Unlock the phone. David.

Yeah.

We unlocked your phone.

I know.

All right, here we go. So Ana, you want my unlock the phone investigator only search the last 2 weeks.

Mm-hmm.

Why?

Because that's when stuff was really getting to a head. It was coming to a head.

So last 2 weeks is the only period you want us to check? Mm-hmm. Okay, this is good to know because we can go back, but if you say to us only 2 weeks, we're never going to go against your privacy.

No, that's what I was expecting.

Like I said, they asked me and this is what I gave them.

Man, when they asked me, I gave that phone up and was like, "I'm not looking at it at all." Well, she said 2 weeks is what she want.

All right.

Well, David, you also confessed ahead of time and you said you already know about this, that he has 15 dating apps on his phone.

Oh, I didn't know about the 15 though, bro.

Man, you knew this.

Stop it, bro. You said that you already knew about this.

Stop it, bro, knock it off.

15?

Yeah. Yeah. 1-5. 1-5. 1-5.

You know that. Cut it out, man. Cut it out.

So if you knew about one, why would you be okay with it?

Because this was at, this was a rocky stage in our relationship, you know what I'm saying? And he made mistakes, I made mistakes too. I'm not about to hold that over your head like a mistletoe. That's what I'm not gonna do.

Okay.

If you're trying to prove different to me and prove yourself to me, then I'mma take it at face value.

Okay, okay. So you were like, because we had our rocky moment, you can have this dating app. But would you wanna delete it if y'all got healthy again?

Exactly.

But he didn't.

And that's what I thought.

Oh, okay.

It was deleted. I hope it's deleted. We'll find out if it's deleted.

So I'mma ask, you think he looking for a sugar mama or something like that?

Yeah, 'cause I was looking for a sugar daddy.

Oh. All right, well, Ana, you wanted to know if David was messaging his ex or any other women on social media.

Mm-hmm.

He said he is not. My Luck the Phone investigator searched his DMs and found David is telling the truth. All right, you want to know if David has been texting his ex or any other women. David said he's not. Again, remember, this is just in the last 2 weeks. 'Cause I wanna be clear, we don't know what's going past, so. Okay, you wanna know if he's been texting his ex or any other women. David says he is not. My locked-up phone investigator searched his texts and found that he is telling the truth. Yeah. However, we did find these texts between you two that they wanted me to see.

Uh-oh.

Okay. Dog, answer the phone. For what, to be called lies and cheats? I think not. Okay, I'm about to go blank blank in hit, you don't answer the phone. What were you saying blank blank to?

I don't even remember.

Oh, 'cause, okay. It's something that we can't, that the FCC said we can't show, so it's something bad. Damn, that's low, shaking my head, that's tough, answer the phone. All right, answer the phone. No, okay, bet, I'm coming back then, I'm good. You cool, no worries, good, 'cause I'm not about to keep getting called cheaters and liars, blank you. So it's over and I can leave, right? You already made up your mind, packed up, So you told me you was going to cheat and you left. So yeah, it's just back and forth tit for tat. Y'all just start accusing each other and y'all start kicking each other out. Okay.

I didn't kick him out. He pack his stuff every time something go his way.

I will, I will.

Every time. I'll be back probably at the door right now.

His bag at the door right now.

Two bags. Two bags.

It's probably already at the door.

Two of 'em at the door right now 'cause I be ready to go.

Y'all living together?

Mm-hmm.

Okay, whose name is on the lease?

Neither.

Neither's name? Neither's name. So who, is it your mama name?

My sister.

Your sister's name. Okay, great. Okay. You want to know if David has been communicating with his ex or any other women. He says he's not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his phone and found that he's telling the truth. However, my investigator said he found a voice note that David sent to you that they want me to listen to.

Oh my God.

What's even more crazier is that I keep falling for your shit. That's why I gotta do this to your ass so you can see how it feel. And then you be the main one talking about, oh, you do that, don't come back. But it's okay for you to do it and stay with me? Hell no. I'mma do to you what you do to me. You do unto others as you want others to do unto you.

Period.

You treat me right, I treat you right. You cheat on me, I'mma cheat on you. You cheat on me and stay with me, I'mma cheat on you and stay with you.

Bookie butt.

Bookie butt. So you're admitting in that thing that you said I'm cheating on you.

I said I would, but like I said, I don't have anything to do.

No, what you said there is, I cheated, I'mma do unto you as you done to me.

That's what it got onto me. You said I cheated?

I know. That's why I said toxic. How you gonna throw the Bible and cheating in the same?

I don't know. I don't even remember saying that.

Jesus said. That's what you said. And Jesus ain't have nothing to do with your foolishness.

No, at all. He's shaking his head at you.

Okay, well, we unlocked your phone.

Why y'all get so loud for her phone?

What happened?

They got loud.

They said, "Whoo, we're gonna unlock your phone." Well, David, you want to know if she was communicating with any other men.

Yeah.

Unfortunately, we don't have that answer, as you see her leg shaking, because she refused.

And did, and did, and did, because why?

No baby, no baby, no baby. Who said that? Who said that?

Who said that?

Who said that? Who said that? I leave my phone open every night. Come here real quick and be my little co-host.

I leave my phone open every night for him to be able to go through.

No, come up here. Come up here real quick. Uh-uh.

Come up here.

Come sit right. What's your name? Hey, Kia. Kia, what's your name?

We got the same hair color.

Come on. Kia, Kia, Kia. What'd you say again? Why she unlock it?

I keep my phone open every day.

Why she unlock it, Kia? 'Cause she scheming. Kia, you feel all right?

He could every day.

Every day. Why you ain't do it?

For what? Because this is a relationship. Y'all doing this together.

Of course.

Why would we have to come on TV for you to go through my phone?

But y'all here.

Well, you at home with me every day. Ain't no reason to look through my phone every day.

Girl, thank you, boo. Thank you, girl. Thank you, boo. I appreciate you, girl. She's speaking the truth and you know that. You know she's speaking the truth. Because if you wanted transparency to be able to say, I'm not doing anything, you could have just given the transparency. Again, unlock the phone is designed for one reason, transparency. So that people can get the answers they need to move forward.

I'm transparent either way it goes when he can go through my phone without the show.

Well, regardless of what it is, we clearly know this is unhealthy. We know it. He's made omissions in that voice note that we've all heard. At the end of the day, the reason I asked for the name of the lease is because this allows y'all to have a clear break. Yeah. You don't need to be in this relationship and I don't know what you holding on for. And you don't need to be in this relationship, but you're gonna continue to hold on. And you're holding on, and that's why that whole toxic display of when he came out of like, she did this, she did that. Oh, I love you so much. Lemme kiss your hand. It's based in, and this is why I appreciate it, it's based in the fact that you said you have insecurity that you never ever healed from. This relationship is a direct reflection of how you two feel about yourselves. And I'm gonna be clear with you. I'm telling you, I've been in unhealthy relationships like this before when I was in my early 20s and we went through it. And one day I did a little work on myself and I woke up and I said, "Oh, you gotta argue alone 'cause I don't deserve to argue like this. Oh, you gotta go through this alone 'cause I'm not doing it with you." And since that point, anytime someone comes in my life who starts with this, I'm so quick to recognize it, ask if you wanna do better, and if they can't, I move on because I know my own worth. Y'all ain't there yet. You ain't there yet. And so what I suggest is you say to your sister, "Hey, we staying here together. You can't stay over here no more." Y'all are both babies. I mean, this relationship, 'cause y'all keep lighting each other fuse, this relationship needs to go boom and be done. Mm-hmm.