I'm Not Your Man and Never Will Be! | KARAMO

So before we get into this, my producer told me you were upset at the hotel last night. What happened?

Yes.

Okay.

So I heard that he's here with somebody else.

Oh.

Came with somebody else.

He came with somebody else?

I don't even fly.

Uh-huh.

This is like my first or second time flying.

So the fact that you thought you were going to rekindle something, you find out that he came here with another girl?

Mm-hmm.

Wow. So do you think it's his new girlfriend who is here?

Yeah, it is. It's the new girlfriend.

It's the new girlfriend.

Well, we don't know which one.

Which one?

But it's the new girlfriend, one of them.

My producer said that you think you two are still together.

Yeah, I did.

Okay.

I thought it was just like a break thing.

So you never officially broke up?

No.

Okay then. So why did he ghost you on your birthday?

The day after my birthday.

What happened?

Ghosted me. Took me on a quick little date, brought me some flowers on the side of the street quick. Picked me up from my hair appointment. The date was over by 8 o'clock. What date you know over by 8 o'clock on your birthday, honey?

Oh yeah.

You supposed to bring me back home, flip me, bend me, break me down. What happened to that?

Oh, is that what you wanted on your birthday?

Did I? After that, my friends threw me something. He did not show up, which embarrassed me. Like, you in front of my friends, like really? I brought you all my family. You brought me around your kids.

Wow.

You don't just bring anybody around your kids.

Yeah, that's a deeper connection. So how long ago was all this?

August.

And so how long y'all were dating?

4 or 5 months.

5 months, yeah.

But we been knew each other. This is somebody who you've been wanting me since middle school, high school. You finally got me and you folded.

Got it. You've always had feelings for him?

Always. Always. Yeah, we just never talked or was together because he was married.

Got it. So do you miss him?

I do.

You do miss him. So were there problems in the relationship?

The relationship like started ending because I wasn't that affectionate.

Okay.

I wasn't, I was in a situation before, so my guard was like a little up. Uh-huh. So I brought some of the stuff that was from my past relationship into that relationship.

Got it. But you can acknowledge that?

I can acknowledge that.

Were you willing to do the work?

I was.

Okay.

I wouldn't have did all this.

Got it.

This was my last hope.

This your last hope and then you find out he's cheating with somebody else.

That he came there with somebody else and I don't know who you are, but hey girl.

Is it, hold on, hold on. You said hey girl to the audience and 4 girls all like said hey.

Oh yeah.

I don't know nothing about that. Okay, hold on, we gonna get to that later, okay. You saw he had a hickey on his neck.

Yes, the hickey.

And what happened? What'd he say?

He came to my house one morning and we usually do our normal. I'm looking in the broad daylight. You wasn't with me last night. Where you went at? I asked him about it. Oh, it's my ex. I went over there for closure. She sat on my lap. Baby, ain't nobody gonna sit on your lap and give you no hickey without no.

She ain't lying, nigga. She ain't lying. She ain't lying. Ain't the way I would've said it, but she ain't lying, okay? You telling the truth. You telling the truth. Tell me about him breaking your window.

Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. Y'all, when a girl get mad, we get mad. So I caught him in traffic. I seen his car, I know his whereabouts, where he go, certain places that he go. And so I blocked him off in the middle of the road and I threw a brick. That brick, I threw that same brick at his car, but it ain't cause no damage.

So he threw it back at your house?

He took that same brick and put it back.

Gave it back to you? Through the window.

Gave it back, yeah.

And you liked it?

Mm-hmm.

I know you did. I know you did.

It was cute. It was cute.

I know you talked to him like—

But no.

Hold on, so we actually have the pics of his car. Can I see the car? Oh, so that's some damage. That brick did damage.

That ain't no damage.

That's damage.

I ain't do that one. I did that one.

Oh yeah, that's some damage.

I don't know about that one. I ain't do that.

So what are you hoping for today?

Answers.

Answers. You want answers.

Answers.

Well, let's meet Stephon and hear his side of the story. So everyone, welcome Stephon to the show.

I gotta sit behind? Damn, that's crazy. I gotta sit behind you? No, you can stand.

So how are you doing? So is this their first time seeing her since her birthday?

Is it Angie? Yep.

So were you surprised when she called with the show?

I thought it was a prank. Me too.

You did?

I thought it was a prank. Like I said, it was some drunk shit. I did it. I didn't think that it was gone or whatever. But if I'm so messy, baby, why you here?

So you were surprised. In your opinion, was this a relationship? 'Cause I'm trying to read your body language.

Man, you can't see this girl crazy? Y'all can't see this girl crazy? For real, for real. I'm crazy. All jokes aside, y'all can't see she crazy? All right, you want me to start telling the truth now? Since you done came up here and lied your ass off? Tell the truth. How long we was dealing with each other? Boy! How long? Years! Years! Years! Years, bitch, don't play with me. Back up some. Back up some. That's not a good idea.

So hold on, my producer telling me right now that you told them that you were never together.

We weren't together. We was in a relationship. Were we in a relationship? We was. You was in my family face, I was in your kids' face all night. Don't lie. You don't want me to tell the truth, that's why you doing all this.

So why ghost on her birthday?

Cousin, let me tell you the actual truth. Let's start from the beginning. You were getting cheated on by your actual— I'm not your— And tell them who that— Are you gonna let me finish? Who cheated on me with? I can't get a word in.

Crazy, ain't it?

As her get back for her dude cheating on her with my ex who she thought I was still dealing with, she came over here being messy. I found out and that's why I stopped dealing with you. And you could have said no. Your ass could have sat at home with your kids. That's what you should have did. You didn't know I was coming here. Okay, thank you. I only showed up to the birthday. At least you just admit it. That's why I left you on your birthday. That's why I didn't show up. You just admitted it. You just admitted it. Goofy.

My producer told me right now that there was something else you wanted to tell him.

You ghosted me on my birthday and I found out I was pregnant August 26th. Cap. Cap. Cap. Had a miscarriage off of the stress. The hurt. The had a miscarriage. Now she had a miscarriage, man. Her sister just had a baby. That's your sister pregnancy test. You come on here trying to fuck with Karamo. I'm sorry. It wasn't the same day. You know you made me look crazy out this shit. You know. During that time, we took a pregnancy test together that day. Don't play with me. Your own sister admitted to you being messy. Call her. 'Cause I don't got to. I got the screenshots in my phone and the messages she sent me. Send it to me. Send it to them. What are you talking about? Stop playing with me.

You are a bitch, so please. You told our producers that you wanted to come here with a friend. Friend Nisha? Yeah. Hi, Nisha.

Hi, everybody.

How are you?

How y'all doing? That one is going to take his spot. See you back in Miami.

So did you start a relationship with Nisha?

Yeah, me and Nisha is an actual relationship. I actually deal with her. I actually deal with her. If she say she my girlfriend, I wouldn't even feel no type of way. What about them? What about them? If she say she feel like she my girlfriend, then you ain't got to say to me, get your ass dancing. You ain't got— No, let's do it, cuz you got me. Come on, come on. All right, I'm going to go. She stayed down the street from us. No, this is Pissing me off. This is pissing me off. This what she wanted, y'all. This what she wanted. Hello, camera time, I guess. I don't give a shit. You know that. That's my man. You know that. Why you can't bring your bitch out here by yourself on your time? We coming back. Come back. Come back tomorrow. It's dead. It's dead. You don't have to say it just came on some— You don't have to me, baby. It's just your turn. It is. It's not yours. It's no longer yours. At least he actually got a turn because you over here tripping. I'm way over there because honestly, I just wanted to see what happened. I'm not gonna let her talk, bitch. You don't got You don't have nothing to say. Nothing. I just wanted to see what her angle was because when he called her and asked her why she got people calling, she was like, um, I don't know. On some funny drunk shit. That's what I said. Who's calling you? That's what I said. And when I said funny drunk shit, he said no. She's just crazy. She a little delusional. I just wanted to see her for myself 'cause I didn't know the face.

Were you worried that they would try to meet up?

Excuse me?

Were you worried that they would try to meet up?

Oh, nah.

Not at all.

I trust him.

Got it.

That's not the baby mother.

And so you came here because you want me to unlock his phone?

Yeah, so we can see who he's talking to on you. I mean, I go through his phone. Okay, so let's put it up. You not in it. Let's put it up. Even if it's not me, you still look stupid. You not the bitch that I'm looking for. You in my phone? Sit her down. Sit her down before I catch this girl.

You in my phone?

Sit her down.

You have questions?

Sit her down or I am leaving. Sit down. I already wanna leave. I'm gonna be honest. I ain't tripping. There.

Angie, so you called the show because you had questions.

This ain't your program. If he say Marley banging, I bang. Bye.

You have questions.

You wanna answers though. All right, I got 'em. There we go. She said what she said.

I'm done.

You said bye, right? I'm finna bang it. Get your ass tweaking. Bye. You cannot admit as a man. That's why you have another one. You have bitches in line. You got about 2, 3 of them. 4 of them. 5. Pull up the phone. Why you ain't wait till she unlock the phone? That shit crazy, bro. You look stupid on TV. You look stupid on TV. Let her look dumb by herself. Let her look dumb by herself. Let me go. Let me go. I'm done. Talk to Karamo. I'm done. About my baby? No.

Angie.

About my baby?

Angie. Angie. Angie.

Angie.

Angie. Angie.

You can edit that out, huh?

Angie.

Angie. That my heart is racing.

I know your heart is racing. Come on now. Why you letting this man, this girl you don't know, get you to this level?

Because he's a fucking liar.

We can hear him giving misconstrued timelines. I understand that he projected a story onto you, made you feel like y'all were important. We can read through guys like that. But what I'm asking you is you came here because you was actually hurting and you just let this man take you to another level. Why is this the case?

You don't play with people. I don't give a fuck if it was 2 days, a week, that would make somebody crash the fuck out.

And I know.

You don't play with people like that.

Listen, I get that, I get that. But see, the problem is, is that instead of you allowing me to do my job, to expose his behavior and to show him that what he did, 'cause I could hear right through it, I was making notes. I see the toxicity in the relationship, but I also understand that there was a manipulation that happened. I could catch all that. But if you really watch my show and call this show 'cause you trust me, why did you act outta character? Because I could have actually, what you were looking for was vindication to say, I'm not crazy. Why would you play me like this? And I could have allowed you to have been vindicated. But right now what you've just done by this, and I'm telling you this in hopes that you leave this stage and grow, is don't ever let no man get you to that point. Your true power as a woman is not in that, I promise you. And right now you young, how old are you?

28.

28. I promise you, you get old, you get in your 30s, your 40s, you realize that calm composure is your power. That would eat him up more. A man would, you sit back quiet like and just look at him like this. Tell him. Tell him. And you got some time for it. Well, I'm just, if we really cousins, if you really trust me, then just know I love you and I wanna see you be better in life, okay? Mm-hmm.

He can't face his truth. Like he can't face, he can't face his truth. You couldn't come out here to face me by yourself. You had to bring somebody with you.

But it's fine. Who cares? What your mantra is, you gonna walk off this stage and say, I'm gonna just go start working on myself, healing and growing. And please spend about 6 months to a year without a man in your life. You don't need it. Just focus on you, okay? I wish you the best of luck. All right. All right. Thank you so much. Make sure to come back next time, friends, so we can keep talking and growing. All right. I love you all. I know those young girls that they think that's where their power is at. She think fighting with her upstage and y'all, you screaming back, that ain't where the power at. And it just, it breaks my heart, especially when I see like young women like that. 'Cause I'm like, you don't gotta be like that. There's a way to be more powerful, but she don't know how to own her power. I appreciate my sisters here on the front row 'cause y'all was confirming it. I appreciate it. She— I wanted— she saw y'all. She was like, OK, I see them. I see them. So thank y'all for confirming, because she got to grow.