I'm Your Son, But Your Wife Won't Believe It! | KARAMO

Friends, sitting next to me is 34-year-old Brandon. Behind and backstage is a man named Sean, a man Brandon believes is his biological father. These two are about to come face to face for the first time in 34 years. Now, this isn't a happy reunion because Sean and Sean's wife Rhonda do not believe Brandon is Sean's son. Do you think that Sean and you look alike?

I mean, I just looked at the video. It's resemblance. Look at this.

Look at this.

Come on, man.

How can you not?

How can you?

Come on now.

It's resemblance.

It's right there.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I see it. Well, let's—

And I got just— I'm just looking at it again. Like, come on, man.

Yeah.

Come on.

What y'all say out there?

That's his brother. That's his brother to you?

I got you, baby.

Yeah. It's a big moment.

Yeah, it really is.

Yeah.

But it's time to get some closure to all the pain.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, no better time than now. Please, everyone, welcome Sean to the show.

Hey Sean, how you doing?

Pretty good.

Good to meet you, sir.

Nice to meet you, man.

Good to meet you, yes. So Sean, let's start off with the obvious. You say that you are not Brandon's father.

No, and I'm sorry that he's caught in the middle of all this, you know, like that.

Man, look at you, man. Look at you and look at me. Come on now. You an older version of me, man. Come on, man. We gotta stop the foolishness, bro.

We gotta stop it. I get you, man, I understand that, but I'm telling you, you're caught in the middle of something. That's all it is, man.

The only thing I'm caught in the middle of is me and you right now.

Your mother believes that you are Brandon's father. So I think everyone, it's time to welcome Ursula to the show. Everyone please welcome Ursula, Sean's mother, to the show. Ursula, thank you so much for being here. So I wanna know from you, why are you convinced that Sean is Brandon's father?

Because when Sean was in New Orleans, Brandon was about 2 or 3 years old. And I received a phone call with someone on the phone saying, "Hello, Grandma." And then after that, the phone hung up. And then afterwards, he was reaching out on Facebook with Brandon and his mother, and that was his son.

So why did you reach out to him on Facebook?

That's what I'm trying to ask.

So why did you reach out to him on Facebook?

Why did I reach out to him on Facebook?

Yeah, why did you reach out to him? Because you then took a step further, even though there was no answer.

She messy, man. That's it, man. So, big guy.

You still can't call your own mother messy.

'Cause she is, you don't know her like, I'm sorry, man.

That's your mother, she gave birth to you.

And for you to sit up here and disrespect your mother, what makes you think that everything that you said— Look at you trying to play hero. Look at you trying to play hero.

I'm just saying, you sit up here disrespecting your mother.

You don't know her the way I know her, that's why.

If you can sit up here on stage on national TV and disrespect your mother, what makes you think that you're not gonna disrespect your own mother?

'Cause you know what, you don't know her like I do.

How are you not gonna sit up here and disrespect the mother?

Because the same way she lying to you, bro, you've been lied to all your life. And you not hearing it from me 'cause you mad.

I'm being lied to?

Yes. If you been— Let me tell you something. Go ahead, man.

Let me tell you something, bro. You not looking at the big picture. You're sitting out here in front of the audience, bro. You're disrespecting your mother.

Yes.

First of all.

That's not no disrespect.

That's disrespect.

How is it disrespectful?

Well, I wanna find out how she's disrespectful. 'Cause there's something about your calmness and clarity that's interesting to me. Sean, why do you blame your mother for all of this?

My grandmother. Was there when she met his mom, okay? She knew that she was pregnant for him, okay? My grandmother called my mom and told my mom, "That's not Sean's son." Got it. She told her that, and she been dragging this out ever since then.

Who is she? She told who?

Who is she? My grandmother told my mother that you were not my son. And you think, right? 'Cause I knew it already, bro. She just think you not hearing it.

When my mama said that, my mama was being overprotective of her grandson. And that's the way those people were back then. They're overprotective.

My wife was sitting up there saying that. See, again.

So hold on, I got a question for you because Sean, I'm watching your body language and I also watched the way that your tone changed when your mother came on. Did you two have a good relationship when you were growing up?

We had a fair relationship, man. As I got older, 'Cause you know, again, I hear y'all when y'all say I'm being disrespectful towards my mom. I hear him when he's saying that. I'm very respectful of my mother, but there's a person called Ursula that likes to step in the way.

So Brandon, I have the outcome of your DNA test right here.

Yes, sir.

This will give you the answers to your 34-year question.

It will.

I wanna know, how do you feel about it?

Right now I'm just, you know, I'm overwhelmed right now because this finally get, 34 years of closure.

Got it.

You know, this did give me the opportunity to find out if this man really my father, even though, you know, I'm not gonna say he's not. This my father. You know?

Got it. Sean, is there anything that you wanna say to Brandon before we get to the DNA outcome?

If you feel like you were wrong, man, I'm sorry. But bottom line, I'm not the one that's gonna owe you an apology.

The test right here, man.

There it is there.

All right, Brandon, are you ready for this DNA outcome?

I'm ready.

Here you go.

Should I open it or you wanna open it?

It's for you to open, Brandon. If you can open it and read the results out loud.

Here we go. Brandon, Son is not your father.

Aw. Oh my God.

Wow.

Oh my God, I am so sorry to both of you.

I'm fine.

I am so sorry to both of you.

I'm fine.

Brandon, what's going through your head right now?

I mean, it's not his fault no more. You know, it's time for me and my mom to sit down and have a conversation, you know?

Yeah.

It's time for me and her to talk.

Yeah. Is there anyone else that your mother has said She said that could possibly be your father?

No, she, all my life, this man right here, you know?

That's what she said, yeah, yeah.

And I got, you know, the closure right here. Me as a man, you know what I'm saying? I apologize, you understand what I'm saying? I really do.

Sean, I'm very sorry that this outcome didn't have, for me, I always wish for the outcomes to be a yes so that way that the healing could start, but I want to let you know Once you talk to your mother, if you need support, we have a team here, we have a staff here, we can figure out how to help you find your real father and I can be here to support you.

I mean, this it. I'm 34 years old, I'm a grown man. I can accept results like this. I understand, I understand. I've been going long enough without, but it is what it is. And I appreciate the opportunity to even be on the show to even get closure to the situation.

Yeah, of course.

Brandon, Karamo, if you could please, because I just saw something that happened, I would love to ask you if you could step off stage please. And if Sean, you could stay for a second for me. Thank you so much. Good meeting you, man. Usually when we have a DNA outcome, I'm assuming that the work that I have to do then is to heal the relationship between the person who thinks the other person is their parent. But in this one, I realized very quickly by your demeanor and your change, and even just a minute ago when your response your mother was, "You let it get this far." Yes. There is pain that's going on here and I need to understand what's going on here because I think I saw your calmness, I saw your clarity, and I also understand now more why you stepped in and why you sent mixed messages. You are trying to do something or fulfill a role of a parent, and tell me if I'm wrong, that maybe you didn't have. So you feel as if I do this, I'm not only mending my own pain, but I'm mending someone else's pain. Am I anywhere near there?

Yeah, you could be right on the money.

Okay then. I feel like it is because I'm listening to what you're saying here. So I wanna know, do you think your mother should have stayed out of this?

Yes.

Ursula, now that you've seen the results, do you believe you should have stayed out of this?

Yes and no.

Why no?

Because now, right? Oh, why no? Because, Now the child knows that Sean is not his father and he can begin to heal.

This ain't got nothing to do with you.

And I'm so sorry.

You messy, Mom, and I told you that from the get-go. I told you that. I told you to stay out of it. I asked you to stay out of it. I asked you to stay out of it. I asked you to leave it alone. You went behind my back and did all this. You saw how upset he was. I didn't go behind your back.

I told you I was gonna do it.

You saw what I had to deal with.

You lying when you say I went behind your back.

You did.

I told you.

I was coming to you. And you still gonna sit up here and deny it. You still gonna deny it.

No, you're denying it.

What is going on right now between you and your mother? Because I think part of what you need to do to help you to become the best version of the man you need to be, you gotta confront this. What are you hesitant about?

I've asked her to stop slamming me, man. All she does every time I turn around. That's not true. When I leave her alone, when I left her alone, I'm going to her as her son.

Ursula, Ursula, it's important right now if your son is being vulnerable in a moment, you gotta hear him. I'm gonna get to you 'cause I wanna hear your side. But what is it? 'Cause I see it.

I'm gonna tell you right now, if I say something, she gonna turn around and use it as hers. She will turn exactly what I'm saying around and use it to her benefit.

I'm a third party that could mediate this. What is it that she would, do you want to say?

I've tried to, I've always been a good son to my mom. I have. She's saying, oh, I don't do this and I don't do that. The reason why I left alone is so that I can grow and do what I gotta do.

But has she been a good mother to you from your point of view?

No.

In what ways? In what ways? Because I can see this sort of little boy that's still trying to protect his mom, that's trying to come off as like, things are good, I'm okay, I don't wanna disrespect you. I even see, this is why earlier I caught this, when you said messy, he didn't say, my mama is this, and start screaming at her. He just said, Mom, you're being messy right there. There was a calmness and a clarity in your statement. And when I heard that, I realized there's pain behind that. So what is it that your mother didn't do for you as a child that you need to say to her now? This is where your healing starts.

She was my mom, man.

She was your mom.

Plain and simple. She was a bitch.

In what way?

In what way? Too many to even name.

Start with one.

Man.

You gotta take this journey. Start with one. What was it?

Man, look, for starters, she started—

I got it. It's okay.

Now, oh man. Where she should've stepped in, she didn't.

And where was that?

Plenty of things, man. You know, I actually was homeless on the streets. And she'll say, "Oh, I was right there." No, you weren't. For a very long period of time.

Can I say something now?

What did you imagine?

So you felt like your mother wasn't there for you?

Yeah, even in my first, you know, before I met my wife now, during my divorce. I went through my divorce and dealt with that for 2 years. And the only reason why I dealt with that for 2 years is because of my other child. Okay, otherwise I would've let that divorce go. Instead of her trying to help me, every time I turned around she was on the phone calling my ex-wife telling about what I am doing or what I'm not doing.

So you don't feel like your mother's been supportive of you and you feel like you've been abandoned?

Exactly.

Those are 2 things.

And she abandoned me, man. Yeah.

Okay, I heard the abandonment. I know you didn't get deep into it, but I heard the abandonment. Okay, Ursula, your son is saying that he does not feel like you support him and have been there for him. We saw a bit, I'm gonna be honest with you and I wanna hear your side. I'm not calling you a bad mother or any of that, but I heard a piece of it in this moment where he said, "Mom, I am in control of this," and you still disregarded his feelings. Can you acknowledge that?

Yes, I can.

Okay.

But like I say, I believed the boy was my grandson. I wanted to know. And by the way, Brandon needed to know the truth.

But see, that acknowledgement isn't actually a healthy acknowledgement because you're saying, I acknowledge that I didn't, I disrespected you, but I was gonna do it anyway because in my mind I think this is what I need to do.

It was something Sean said to me.

What was it?

That made me do that.

Oh, good Lord.

What was it?

She being messy again, man. She gonna take something outta context, man.

This is what it is. No, I'm not. This is what it is. Okay, because I see right now there's still, I was generally trying to help y'all. So what I see there is, I see here is that there's things that y'all are scared to say. What I'm gonna say to you is that I appreciate the fact that you tried to step up when you were younger to be there for that young man. I appreciate the fact that you have stepped up for your other children. I want you to know that you have to stop protecting that little boy by protecting your mother. You're not going to heal and you're not gonna get to where you need to be. The same anger we just saw Brandon experience, I know that you're experiencing, but you're suppressing it. Pressing it for some reason because you don't wanna come off angry. I need you to know though, because I'm seeing the pain. I'm a third party, I just met you, I'm seeing it. Do yourself a favor. You don't deserve to live in this sort of pain that you're living in. You deserve to be heard and you deserve to know that you can start to heal. You gotta speak up with whatever it is and you gotta figure out a way to do that where it doesn't matter what she says, you know the truth and you get to Speak your truth. You hear me? The reason this stuff right here you let linger on is because part of you for some reason doesn't wanna face this conflict, but you gotta face this conflict head on so you can start to heal. You hear me? Don't let anything like this get in your life again, all right? Listen everyone, I'm just glad that we got answers when it comes to you and Brandon and everyone at home. Ursula, thank you for being here. Rhonda, thank you for being here. I see you getting emotional, so you know what I'm saying is true, right? You know what I'm saying? It's true. All right everyone, thank you for being with us. Come back next time, friends, so we can keep talking and growing. I love you all.

I know, look, like, now I know it's emotional, man. I'm sorry.

It ain't emotional. Ain't no little loud shit, you know what I'm saying? I'm a grown man, bro.

No, no, it ain't got nothing to do with that. I'm a grown man. I know how it is, man. I just want you to know, if you need to reach out to me, you can, all right?

We got the closure to what we needed, you know what I'm saying? I take it back home, it ain't your situation no more. No, I got it. It's a lot of questions I gotta ask my mama now, you feel me?

Okay, but look, from a man's perspective, bro, man to man, if you need somebody to talk to, I know what you're going through. If you want to talk to me, you can, all right? Seriously, reach out to me if you need to talk to me.

It is what it is, man.

All right, you straight? You sure? Do it.

Oh, no. No, that's it. That's it.

Yeah, if he want one. Yeah, come here, man.

He's done, huh?

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