Is My Boyfriend Cheating On Me With His NIECE? | KARAMO

2 months ago, Zionna says she found her boyfriend's car in the driveway of another woman's house and he still has not given her an explanation. She wants us to unlock his phone to get the truth. So everyone, please welcome Zionna to the show so we can hear her side of the story. How you doing?

I'm good, how are you?

You look beautiful. Nice to meet you.

Thank you, you're handsome.

Thank you, I appreciate that. You know I try a little. But please, girl, tell me, you found your man's car at another woman's place?

Yes.

What happened?

We got in an argument the night before, and usually he just ride around maybe an hour and he'll come back, but he stayed out all night. So I started riding, seen his homeboy, and he gave me an address. So I pull up like, what you under here?

Where you at? Where you at? Yeah.

So when I get there, I'm calling his phone, he just like cuts it off after I call twice.

Twice.

So I'm like, oh no.

And what time in the morning is this? 'Cause you said he been out all night, so.

Yeah, so it was like 8.

8 in the morning?

Yeah.

So he really been out all night?

All night.

Oh yeah, okay.

So I get out, I'm banging on the door, banging on side of the house. You coming outta here today.

Yeah.

So when he finally comes out, he's like, you tripping, you tripping. The police come because they called from inside the house.

Yeah.

They never came out, but that was like I had to leave the premises.

But hold on, why would he say you tripping if you and I are in a relationship, you have not been home all night, your homeboy gives me this address, and you are inside unwilling to come outside? I don't understand how you're tripping.

It's a man for you.

Okay, okay. So did you know whose house it was?

Not at that time.

Not at that time, but do you know whose house it is now?

Yeah.

Okay.

I did my research to take him. You did research.

And my producer said you saw a number calling his phone repeatedly a few days after.

Who's that? Who was that? Well, I reversed the number.

Yeah.

So it'll pull up the name. And when I asked him, he say it's his niece. But when we around her, like, she's sketchy. Wanna whisper in his ear, pull him to the side and stuff like that. So I'm like, now 5 years, I never seen you till recently.

Yeah.

Which his sister say, oh yeah, that's his niece. But mm-mm, we're not doing that.

So it's his sister's child?

No, it's his. She was his uncle's child, but he passed away. So she was like one of the outside children.

Okay, got it, got it. So my producer said you know that number by heart?

Sure do, 25. Sure do.

Oh yeah, that's embedded in your head. So you recorded him in the car, what happened?

I played detective, you know, and threw the phone inside the speaker in the car. So I was like, mm-hmm. And then when I came back, I played it and he was like, I'm coming to see you later.

Oh, got it.

So I need that phone on y'all.

Yeah, did you ever, okay, don't worry, that's what we do here. Did you ever show him the video?

Yeah, he heard it.

He heard it.

And he won't say nothing.

So he even saw the proof you had.

The proof.

Of him speaking when you got out the car.

Yeah.

And still is denying it.

Still denied.

Have the two of you talked about breaking up?

We have, we actually took a break 2 years ago and I went to Virginia and so I started doing my own thing. Once he got wind that I was doing my own thing, it was like, I'm coming to where you at.

And how long y'all been together now?

5 years.

5 years.

2 kids.

2 kids. And what made you? Those babies are adorable.

Thank you.

Oh my gosh. And they got your face. They are so cute. Thank you. They are so adorable. Oh my gosh. If that was on a grocery store ad, I'm buying that product. Like, whatever, this is so cute. So my producers told me he told you he's only with you because of your kids.

Yeah, that was like the main reason. But it's just like 5 years, it should be more than just the kids.

And when did he say that?

Like anytime you ask him.

Anytime he says he's only with you for the kids?

Yeah.

Okay. And how does that make you feel when he says that?

Hurt and confused, 'cause it's just like, why?

Yeah. Well, I think it's time to hear Timmy's side of the story. So everyone, let's meet Timmy. How you doing, Timmy? What's up? Nice to meet you, sir.

How you doing?

Good. Thank you for being here. Yeah. All right, sir. Can you explain the situation with the girl whose house you were at?

It was my niece and some friends. It was a party.

It was a party.

None of that never happened what she said.

Nothing.

She delusional.

Okay, so she said you left the house after an argument and then you went there and stayed till 8 o'clock in the morning. So that did not happen?

Yeah, it was a party.

So you didn't get into an argument, you just said, "I'm going to a party." Well, we got into an argument, but the party was going on already.

"Okay then." So I went to the party.

She went to the party. If she said, "I called your phone," why didn't you just pick up and say, "Hey, I'm over here, I'm sleeping, you know, I'll see you when I see you." Well, actually my phone went dead. Okay. When she got the address from your friend, why not answer the door and say, "Hey, listen, I'm just here. I don't wanna argue again. We can talk about this later, but I'm safe." One reason.

She was already acting crazy.

Okay.

On some delusional stuff.

Okay.

So then when I see her beating on my car, I gotta come outside 'cause she beating my car.

Oh, you was beating on the car? You said you was beating on the door.

I was beating on the door too.

She was beating on my car. I was also beating that car. Beating on my car, took the tags off, stuck 'em in her truck. So I said, I gotta go outside and do something.

Got it. So that's when you called the police? So did she do any damage to your car?

She beat the trunk up.

Got it, got it, got it, got it. Why you laughing?

He said he got it.

It's 'cause it's real.

It's just like a man love his car, so I'm gonna hit you where it hurt, you hit me where I hurt, so.

Okay, so Timmy, tell us about the argument that you had when Zionna moved to Virginia.

When she moved to Virginia, it was like she got this job working at the store, so I was like, okay, cool. So I'm keeping the baby, she got a job at the store. So all of a sudden come up to where they said, "They don't want you back at the store. You banned from the store." Dude, what? They don't even know me. So in my perspective, she talking to somebody else. She was.

Were you talking to somebody? Yes.

I was because he was in Maryland with another woman, so.

And you were in Maryland with another woman?

It's pretty much. But she was telling me—

You can't breeze over that. You said earlier, when I said you weren't on a break, you're like, "Not to me." So I'm assuming in my mind that that means you at home doing your thing faithful, but you were with another woman.

She was a friend. She was a good friend. It wasn't like it was nothing going on. In her mind, it was something going on.

It was.

I mean, if you living with another woman, then yeah. It was in your mind too. It was in your mind too something was going on. In her mind, it was something going on.

So I mean, you can't— You can't have your cake and eat it too. So I was just—

So do you believe she's still in contact with that man?

Yeah, pretty much.

But I'm not.

And does that bother you?

Yeah.

Are you still contacting that woman?

No.

At all? Don't be lying.

No.

Don't lie.

Is there an age difference between y'all? Let me see this.

28 years.

28 years.

Yeah.

28 years. So what do you want to say to him that you wanted him to know before we even get to these unlock the phone?

That I love you. But if it's something in your phone, we done.

I love you too.

So I got a question for you. I'm just gonna be real. If you've heard him on a videotape you got, he's told you he was talking to somebody, you banged on another person's door, why now would you be done when you find someone else? If we find something in the phone?

Just because, like, you could've told me this at home before we came here.

Mm-hmm.

You know?

Okay.

Before we got on, you know, TV.

TV.

Yeah.

So TV would be the catalyst to make you wanna leave? Like, that would be the—

'Cause that's like number one embarrassment.

Delusion.

Got it, okay.

Delusion. Okay. Well, Timmy, you want to know, 'cause we're unlocking your phone as well, Timmy, you want to know if Zionna spent her birthday with her family, if Zionna has been texting a man by the name of And if Diana has— He was— And if Diana has been sending explicit photos to any other man and if Diana has been using any dating apps to hook up with other men. Those are your concerns?

Pretty much.

Okay, well I think it's time to unlock the phone. All right, Diana, we unlocked your phone. All right, you ready?

Yeah.

All right, Timmy, you wanna know if Ziana spent her birthday with her family. Ziana says she spent her birthday at her brother's house. My unlock the phone investigator searched her GPS and found that Ziana is telling the truth. Timmy, you wanna know if Ziana has been texting a man by the name of [MASKED]. She says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her texts and found that Ziana is telling the truth. Timmy, you wanna know if Zayana has been sending explicit photos to any other men. She says she has not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her photos, both recent and any deleted, and found that Zayana is telling the truth.

Can I see it?

Can I see it? We got one more.

Oh, okay.

Timmy, you wanna know if Ziana has been using any dating apps to hook up with other men. She says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her apps and found that Ziana is telling the truth. Let's see what happened.

Here you go. Hit her here.

That's good.

That's good.

That's a plus.

She's not doing anything. How do you feel?

I'm good with that. I'm good with that.

You're good with that?

Yeah. But I told you. Why you don't believe it?

So why didn't you believe her before?

Why didn't I believe her before? Because she delusional. She still gonna be delusional.

Before it's sneaky, now she just delusional, but okay.

Still, that don't make sense.

Still delusional and sneaky.

But she's not doing anything. We've just confirmed that. We went through.

That's a good thing.

So that argument doesn't work anymore. She's no longer sneaky. We know that one. We know that one. I understand you're calling her delusional because you're saying that you're not doing anything, so she's making she's making stuff up, right? So we know she's not sneaky. Well, let's unlock your phone and find out if she's delusional. Timmy, we unlocked your phone. All right, Zionna, well, you wanna know if Timmy has been on any dating apps. Timmy says he's not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched his apps and found that Timmy is telling the truth. Zion, you wanna know if Timmy has been communicating with two specific numbers. Timmy says he has not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his phone and found that Timmy is not telling the truth. He's had six canceled calls with the 25 number that you want to know. These are all the call logs from it. He deleted the entire thread messages between the two of them. That name, that number is also labeled as in his phone to not show the name so that way if it popped up, it's under a different name. And my investigator said he has deleted her contact off of Facebook as of recently.

What you gotta say?

Why you gotta label on the phone if there's nothing to hide?

Because—

'Cause that seems a little delusional and sneaky.

'Cause that's not her name.

Well, that's what they put it under there for.

So she saved the number.

Pretty much.

So why wouldn't you just change it back?

I don't even know the number. For real.

Why did you delete all the messages?

Why did I delete all the messages? Because she was gonna make a big deal about it.

But if there's nothing to hide, then there would be nothing to make a big deal out of. Exactly.

I don't get that. I really don't.

She was gonna make a big deal about it.

So you're saying this is your niece?

Yes.

Oh, interesting. Interesting. Okay, so you'd have to label your niece under a new number and also delete the messages.

Not her name.

But see, actually, I don't think it was her phone. I think it was like a friend phone. You feel what I'm saying?

So you sure this is just not a side piece that you're calling your niece?

No, no.

Are you sure?

Yeah, positive.

Yeah, okay. Zionna, you wanna know if Timmy has any explicit photos of other women on his phone. Timmy says he does not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his photos and found that Timmy is not telling the truth. He has 39 saved photos of other women on his phone. Can I see the evidence bag please?

That's crazy.

All right. So this is the main girl that you've been texting with. That's your niece?

That's my niece.

This how you and your niece talk? This type of photo you got from your niece?

That's her Facebook page.

Okay. I just don't, my niece wouldn't have nothing in my phone like that.

Yeah, that's her Facebook page.

Oh, okay. This a niece too? That's a niece?

I don't even know where them came from.

This a niece? 'Cause if that's your niece bent over like that, that's a problem. This your niece?

That's grace.

This your niece? Any of these your nieces? No. Any? Oh no, we don't. Okay, okay, okay, okay. So let's figure this out. So you don't wanna be with this woman. She's younger than you. You don't wanna be with her. You had children with her. Why you playing with her? Why you don't just say, "Hey, let's break this off." You tell her every day. So you're just breaking out herself with stuff You're on the scene telling her, "I don't wanna be with you. I'm only staying with you for the kids." So why don't you just man up and say, "Listen, let's end this." What type of control are you getting over this? What is this? What type of power? There's something here that's making you do this.

Those pictures.

No, that wasn't my question. My question is, you have repeatedly told the mother of your children that you do not wanna be with her, that you are only with her for the kids. You have completely told her that you are not doing anything and we have found that you are still in contact with someone. There's photos on your phone. My question is, what are you gaining by doing this to your children's mother?

I love my children.

And I wanna know, what do you think your children will think about you when one day they watch this show and they see that you spent years deliberately hurting their mother?

I ain't trying to hurt her.

But you are, but you are. So my question is, why? Why are you doing this?

I ain't trying to hurt her and I love her.

But you are. And when you deliberately hurt somebody, that does not equate to love. So my question again is why are you staying with her?

Because I love her. You know what I'm saying? She's the mom of my kids.

So you love your children. I have no doubt about that. But you do not love this woman.

Yeah, I love her.

Okay. So you do not love this woman. And if you think you love this woman, maybe your definition of love is skewed because love does not do these actions. Love, love does not include these actions. Love does not include these actions, brother. I'm sorry to tell you, love does not include any of the sneakiness or the things that you have done. That is deceit. That is not love. You got anything to say to him?

We good.

You good. Yeah.

Yeah.

And my producers also just told me that you have 5 other kids with 2 other women. So you do know, you do know that you don't have to stay because of kids. So again, there's a power dynamic or something going on here of why you're staying here. And you gotta check with yourself for why that is. But luckily, She's now woken up and hopefully you're very woke now. Very woke. Good. Yeah. You're 25?

Yeah.

You have a beautiful life ahead of you and there is a man that is going to give you the love you deserve. There is a man out there who can give you that love.

I hope she find him.

Did you hear what he just said?

If she find, if it's one out there gonna give it to her, the sun gonna come up tomorrow.

I'm gonna tell you this, even though you said that outta defensiveness, that was actually the kindest thing you could have said to her. Because what he just let you know is I'm not the man, but there is one out there and the sun will shine for you tomorrow. He out there. All right, I wish y'all both the best of luck. I wish y'all best of luck on the court. Co-parenting, and thank you for being here, okay? Yeah, you're welcome. Stay with us, friends. We'll be right back with more.