Is My Boyfriend Raising A Secret Family With His Ex? | KARAMO
In this Karamou‑hosted relationship‑intervention episode, Briana confronts her boyfriend Jamal after learning he may be maintaining a secret family with his ex‑partner. The discussion begins with Briana describing how she discovered messages from the ex and other women, suggesting Jamal’s ongoing involvement with his former partner. Jamal repeatedly denies the accusations, even when presented with phone evidence, leading Karamo to label his behavior as gaslighting. Both parties admit to a pattern of "tit‑for‑tat" retaliation: Briana says she left Jamal after learning about his secret family, while Jamal claims he responded similarly when he discovered Briana’s contact with her own ex. The host repeatedly asks why each stays in the relationship despite the betrayals. The couple reveals they share a three‑month‑old baby, which shifts the conversation toward the child’s wellbeing. Karamo attempts to unlock both phones to verify claims but concludes the evidence is already evident, deeming further phone checks a waste of time. The host steers the dialogue toward a decision: cease the toxic cycle and co‑parent responsibly. Both Briana and Jamal agree to end the romantic relationship and focus on co‑parenting their daughter, with Karamo offering final encouragement and advice.
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My guest Briana says when she met Jamal, they fell in love and everything was perfect until she found out he had a secret family from his ex. Jamal swears the relationship with his ex is over and we're unlocking his phone to get answers. Please welcome Briana to hear her side of the story. Hey. How are you?
You look beautiful.
Karamo. Yes.
Nice to meet you. Come on, work. How you doing? Good. Thank you. So I'm sure you thought you had found your Mr. Right.
Yes, I thought I did, apparently.
How did you go from being his woman to being the other woman?
So apparently it was some DMs. I got a DM text from another woman and she basically was just saying that, you know, this is my man. We've been together for this, you know, long time.
How long in the beginning of the relationship this happen?
This was like 2 months.
2 months in? I'm gonna ask you clearly, why you stay?
I love Jamal. So my love for Jamal was very deep within those 2 months. So once it got deep and my feelings was involved and my love was involved, I fell for this man. So he was my man.
And yeah, I get it. And things started going downhill from there?
Yes. In what way? So from that part, It's just a lot of, it started like getting text messages from other women, DMs from the same ex, you know, repeatedly. Wasn't once, wasn't twice, it was more than just that.
So you getting her, the same ex that cussed you out. Yes. And then other women start popping up.
Yes.
Wow, that's a lot. 'Cause these, do you think that these women could have just been making things up?
No, it can't be. If they sending me text messages, DMs.
They're sending you the messages from him?
No, yes, letting me know, you know, this is what it is between me and Jamal and this is what's going on.
What's going on. Yeah. Do you have any of those messages?
Yes, I do. Do you have my phone? Where's my phone? I can show you.
I like to see receipts.
You know what I mean?
Receipts. Let me see what they over here talking about.
Yes. So here we have, if you can see, Karamo. So the first one is just her just, the ex just letting me know that.
Your baby daddy, he just wants you to have a great, not have a great day after you dropped that bomb.
Yeah.
People get messy. She gonna say all this stuff and then gonna say, I'm gonna say have a great day. No, girl, you get a life. Bitch, you did all that fake shit walking around the door and I spoke to your dumb ass when you came, dumb ass. And Jamal been worried about me, that's why he deleted the messages he sent me. Okay, he spent the night last night with you?
He did, he did. It was basically a lot going on, so she decided to text me those messages.
Oh yeah, he busy.
Yes, and have been.
Has been busy.
Yes, very busy.
Okay, so what, but what Jamal say about all these messages?
So Jamal just basically, he denied it.
Okay.
He denied it several times. Even with the proof being shown to him in front of his face, he would deny it. Oh. It's not the truth. That's not what happened. I was just vibing. I was just chilling. It wasn't nothing.
And y'all know what that's called, right? Y'all watch this show enough. Gaslighting. Say it with me. Gaslighting. Thank you. Again, I'm gonna ask, why stay?
So I do have a 3-month-old.
Okay. That does change the situation, I understand.
Yes, it changes the situation.
It's one thing for emotions, but now there's a baby.
Yes, emotions, feelings, it's a baby involved.
Okay.
And I'm not just doing it because of my child, it's because of my love as well that I have for him.
Got it, okay. I understand. Now on a scale of 1 to 10, what would you say your love for Jamal is?
Right now it's 8, 7, 7, 8.
7, 8, okay. And on a scale of 1 to 10, what would you say your love for yourself is?
It has been very low. I'll say at least about a 4.
Okay, okay. And what do you think the cause of that is?
The situation that I'm dealing with with Jamal.
Got it, okay. All right then, well listen, I think it's time to meet Jamal and hear his side of the story. So everyone, please welcome Jamal to the show.
Why is you sitting on here telling them people lies like that?
Why?
Like why even? No, you not. You not telling the truth. She sit here and acting so innocent about everything when she's a manipulative and a liar herself. Oh, how you doing, sir?
Who?
Okay.
How I'm the liar?
Okay.
Everything you do is a lie. You know how you started stuff. Be mad about how I react on it.
What was she manipulating you about?
About everything. About her boyfriend that she, her ex that she used to have and manipulate me on that part.
Okay, so you so concerned about my ex that you found out what?
That you was still dealing with him even though you was dealing with me in the beginning of our relationship, saying that it was over between them, but they were still communicating 'cause he was still coming to the house, do all this extra.
Okay, so that was after. You telling the after parts. You not telling from the beginning when I found out that you was still dealing with your ex, he had a whole family.
You still found that?
So you said that he had a whole 'nother family?
Yes.
Okay, and you had no idea?
That I did not know about. He was still living with this woman.
So when she found out about it.
Let me ask you, 'cause I'm gonna get to your thing as well. Why didn't you tell her about your family? Why didn't you tell her about this ex?
Me and the ex was going through a separation and I—
I respect that, but my question was why didn't you tell her about the ex?
Because I didn't feel like it was necessary 'cause we were going through a split.
How was it necessary? I don't understand. Make it make sense. I'm dealing with you, we in a relationship, you told me we're in a relationship. Yes.
How you think that wasn't necessary to inform me that you still had a family on the side and still was living with her?
I appreciate you admitting that because that's the clarity. He's admitting that he wasn't.
I did. She knows that. I told her that.
So you've never heard that before?
That's a lie.
You never heard that before?
That's a lie.
He never told me.
I told you. When you asked for an apology and an explanation, I told you that.
That's not how it works. So Breonna, I'm gonna ask you. So your ex, you were dealing with him still kind of when you heard this information?
After the information that I heard and heard that he was still dealing and having intercourse with his ex, I started back conversating with my ex.
And this is 2 months in?
That was just maybe 2 months in.
Months in, yeah. So immediately the trust was broken, he was doing it, and then you said, well, you doing it, I'm gonna do it too.
Yeah, after I left Jamal, when I found out that his ex, that day his ex called me and telling me all of this about between him and her, I left. I left him exactly where he was.
Got it, got it, okay. No, no, no.
She went back and forth with her. Like she played this innocent role, but she is so fake. Messy, like she's fucking messy. She would go back and forth with her on shit just like period. Even with text messages that she asked for to be sent to her or like they'll cut off some parts.
So you want me to be quiet? You want me to listen though?
How is she messy?
Cutting off exactly different messages to make it seem like, oh, I'm contacting this person or she contacted me or I'm saying this and that.
So you're saying she would doctor the messages from these other women?
Yeah, just to prove like her point. On the situation.
So how would I die something and these women are sending me something? Your ex sending me something, she's texting me, damn me, every other week.
She's sending you a whole point of conversation just so what she wants you to see so you could be mad at me. That's what she doing.
I saw one of myself in her phone and that was the whole conversation and you said, let me see. You said let me see. So you did ask her, I saw it in my own eyes.
Old text messages that we discussed.
No, we didn't discuss anything. You just thought I did something wrong.
So I'mma ask you the same question I asked her. So if she was messy from day one, why you stay?
Because I fell for her. I fell in love with her.
So Jamal, why does Briana still believe you're still seeing your ex?
Because everything I do in the past have shown that, only because I done tit for tat shit with her. And it's just like—
No, you done tit for tat shit with your ex.
No, I've done that with you when you was still doing your dirt. She was still messing around with her ex at the same time. So when I figured that out that she was doing that, of course I'm gonna go do me. Like, why not?
No, I tell you, even when I was pregnant with my baby. When you was pregnant? Yes.
How do you allow your ex to come to your new man house that you supposed to have a relationship with?
He wanted to go to Miami. She's serious? He wanted to do this and that with her, still going to her house.
She's serious? Just 'cause she's pregnant, that she was pregnant during that time, like she can't cheat or nothing like that?
You still have access to everything.
No, I do not. No, I do not. And that's the point that she don't understand. That's the point that she don't understand.
Your ex came over, is that true? Yes.
He came over where?
He said that we was at your house.
To our house.
So my relationship, the relationship with my ex is with my mom. I have no control, that is my mom and my dad's house.
Yes, you do. Okay.
Yes, you do.
I do control who enter in and out of that house.
I hear you.
Yes, you do. I did set my boundaries up.
If you set your boundaries with your parents and make that more clear with them, then that would be understand. Like why would they still bring your ex around?
Your parents want you with Jamal?
No.
I could tell. And your parents want you with your ex?
Yes.
Your parents want you with your ex, okay. Your parents is messy. You know that, right?
They are. Oh yeah.
Where you think she get it from? Where you think she get it from?
That don't mean I'm messy.
Yes, that does.
So he brought the ex in explaining your situations, okay. Jamal, so you don't trust her is what I'm getting.
No, I don't.
Okay, okay.
'Cause you're doing your dirt.
No, 'cause you seriously sitting next to me and texting another man to go out. As soon as we already have a baby, I'm holding our baby. I got now a child and she texting another to plan out to go out.
Is that true? When you had the child, 3 months old, have you been texting somebody else?
Yes.
Oh, after he did his dirt?
No, no, no, that's her excuse for everything that I'm doing something. So pretend that I was fucking with anybody.
I stepped out.
You did step out. You stepped out of the relationship with who?
As a woman, I'm sitting here letting you know that I stepped out when I found out that he did what he did.
No, lies, lies. She didn't find out nothing. It was more than just one person. What was it? More than one fucking person she having a whole conversation with.
Who was that texting?
Yes, she was.
You let me know my ex.
Yes, your ex and your so-called brother.
Okay, so-called brother.
So-called brother.
All right. So Briana, my producer actually told me another woman sent you photos of Jamal's clothes at her house.
Yes.
Can I see the clothes?
As you can see, it's his shorts, his shoes, and his phone. She sent me this to prove a point that he came to the house and they had sex.
That's my stuff. That's old. Do the hurt the same way you do her. Briana, it's the same.
Can you explain what's going on?
So you know when he sent photos Photos, you can see this date.
Yes.
So she's saying it's in August of 2023. So this is recent.
No.
So what are your thoughts on that?
Same thing. They do, like, them two go back and forth.
I understand that, but that doesn't explain your behavior. What I'm trying to say, I understand that they go back and forth, but what about—
I'm here to still be doing me while she doing her.
Did you or did you not have sex with her?
Yes, I did. Just like you had sex and stuff. Just like you had your ex pick you up and y'all went out.
So the funny part So Jamal, I realize because of these trust issues, you asked Briana to turn over her phone as well.
Yes, that's true.
Okay then. I think it's time to unlock the phone. Briana, we unlocked your phone. Jamal, we unlocked your phone. And I gotta tell you, I don't see any point in going to and unlocking these phones. This is stupid to me. I'm gonna be real with y'all. And the reason being, let me be real right now. Y'all have already admitted to everything. I have counted already right now, tit for tat, both of y'all said we go tit for tat, 7 different times on this stage. You just admitted calling her and saying, I found in her phone, I saw the pictures. Y'all know everything, so why am I unlocking phones for? That's a waste of time. It's a waste of your time. So my question to you both, and this is serious, Do you wanna keep co-signing each other's bad behavior or do you wanna start learning how to co-parent? Because right now there's nothing healthy in this situation. Y'all know my priorities is always on this show is the child. Because as adults, you'll bounce back. But all these things that your child sees y'all going back and forth will be patterns that they pick up and develop and that they will continue with the rest of their life.
Co-parenting would be fine with me. I don't wanna keep doing this.
Back and forth. You can't.
It's not healthy. It's not healthy. I love my baby. So I need to be better for her as a mother.
You know this is not good for you.
Yeah.
You know it's not. You know it's not. Come on. Just as much as she doesn't deserve this, you don't deserve this either.
Yeah, that's true.
Don't you deserve somebody who's going to understand you, love you? You're not gonna have to check their phone. You're not gonna have to do this stuff. Don't you believe you deserve that?
Yes, I do.
Don't you believe she deserves somebody that she doesn't have to worry about women sending her texts?
Yes, I told her that plenty of times before. She deserves something better. When we came to that—
When the hell you tell me that?
Because why is it cute? Well, guess what? Regardless— Why is it cute? Well, guess what? Regardless if he ever said it in the past, he's saying it now. The question is, can you hear it?
I'm hearing it.
'Cause he's telling you you deserve something. That is the most honest and kindest gift that y'all could give to each other in this relationship. The only ex you need to be worried about is the example for that daughter y'all have. So I'm gonna ask you to turn to each other and say, what do y'all wanna do next? Tell him what you wanna do next and you tell her and speak from your heart and think about your daughter.
We need to just call it quits and just co-parent and try to do better for her and just let that be that.
I agree. Co-parent is best for her.
Can y'all? Yeah, you can do that. I mean, that is the most honest and sane thing that has come outta both of y'all mouth. Yeah. I wish y'all the best of luck. Sorry I had to rip up y'all and lock the phone, but I like to be dramatic. I'm sorry, I like to be dramatic. Good luck, y'all, all right? I really do. I really am praying for y'all. Good luck. Seriously, everyone, thank you for being with us. Make sure to come back next time, friends, so we can keep talking and growing. I love you all.
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