Is My Daughter A Sex Worker Like I Was? | KARAMO

So, you know what I appreciate about is you being open about your past. Tell us about it.

Oh God, I'm crazy, okay? This past is a lot. My world has been turned upside down with being in jail recently. I'm just coming home.

How long were you in jail?

3 months.

3 months.

So normally I work. I've also been a sex worker as well as a pimp.

How long did this go on for?

Oh, years.

Years. Okay then. And so now you're in a space where you feel like you're doing better?

Now that I'm home from jail, that's all I want is to do better because I have my daughter that looks at me and she's seen too much. I think it's time for her to have a different life and see something better.

Amen. How did your daughter feel about all of this knowing that you were doing this? Did you ever talk to her?

Yeah, I'm very open. I'm very open. A little too open. Maybe that's the reason her life is going the way it is.

Has she ever talked to you about it, how she feels?

No, no, not as far as her doing anything, but that's what I'm concerned with.

Yeah, yeah, no, has she ever talked to you how she felt about—

No, she was too excited about having what she had.

Got it, okay then. So what's happening with your daughter now that makes you suspicious?

So when I came home, my house was a mess. A man came to my door, knocked on my door and said that she owed him money. What does my daughter owe you money for?

How old is your daughter?

22. She just made 22.

22. And so, and how old is this man?

He's older than me.

Oh, okay then. Okay then. And you're 43?

Yes.

So this was an older man. So that's why you're actually really confused. Yes. 'Cause it wasn't like somebody her age saying, I gave.

No.

So this some older man saying, okay, got it. What happened when you confronted your daughter?

She said, oh, he's just a friend that's been helping me while you were gone. What was I supposed to do? I saw you do things that you had to hustle. So I just, he said he was gonna help me.

Are you concerned for Ariana's life?

Of course.

Yeah. So what happened with your house? 'Cause I heard you say that when, before the man knocked on the door, that your house was a mess.

Oh my God.

Holes in the walls?

Yes. So these are two different walls. I had no idea what happened.

Was she angry? Did she say she do this?

She did say she did this one.

She did this one?

Yes, she did tell me.

Okay.

She said she was upset.

And she did that one? Yes. But how did the other one happen?

She didn't tell me.

How did she, she kicked down the door?

Kicked the doors in, yeah. These, there's no doors.

Did she say she did this as well?

Yes.

Did she have anger issues before she?

Yes.

She did.

She did, yes.

Okay, she did have anger issues. Okay then. Have you seen her doing anything else that would make you suspicious outside of the man coming to your door and being disappearing?

Her disappearing when I left her to the house to make sure she was taking care of the home.

Okay. What would you do if we found something in her phone? I'm gonna tell you something. I gotta tell you this, and this is real right now. I don't tell people this, but when I came up with this segment, it's because of my own sons. And so it's interesting because I always thought that, I just knew, I was like, parents gonna flood my show and wanna know what's in their kids' phone because like there's an opportunity now for you to see like what's going on. And you are the first parent to ever say that. And so—

Oh my God. I'm a little scared.

Yeah.

You know, but I'm a transparent parent. I think she's got too much. I just gave her too much freedom.

That's what this is. This is for transparency, your transparency. But now you're asking for your daughter to be transparent. Yes. And sometimes it's harder for kids to be transparent. So what would you do if you found out that she is a sex worker?

I don't wanna go to jail.

Yeah.

That's what I'm afraid of.

So you would not want her to go down that path?

Of course not.

Okay then.

Yeah, no.

What's making you emotional?

It's my baby.

Yeah.

You know, why would I want this for her? This is not okay. Yeah, got it. Especially knowing what I've been through.

Yeah. No. Yeah. It's time to hear from your daughter. So everyone please welcome Ariana to the show. Hi, Ariana. How you doing? Nice to meet you. You look beautiful.

Nice to meet you too.

Thank you.

Yes. So Ariana, what do you have to say about what you just heard?

You make it seem like I'm just angry, like I just tore your house up when you left.

You left me. So what did you do?

You left me.

I had no choice.

But let's talk about it. You make it seem like I just wrecked your house when you left. Then you say, It was just me. It was me and my sisters.

But we not here for them.

But let's talk about it. What did you tell me when you left? It's time for you to stand up. It's time for you to take the lead. I've already taken the lead. You're failing to realize I grew up fast. I grew up taking care of your kids when you go to work, when you're not home, when you're traveling and going with different men. Yes, I seen it all.

Absolutely.

But let's talk about it. You wanna talk about it? Let's clock it.

Please clock that tea then. Let's clock it. All right. You got this. You right about that. But one thing I did do all I could do was provide for you. So when I left you— You always been a provider, but you were not there mentally.

You were not there emotionally.

I was there.

Let's talk about how many times you put me in a mental institution for thinking, for just crashing out. You thinking one time I'm crashing out? Let's talk about it. Grandma passed away, we were all grieving.

You're right.

And you just sent me away. How do you think that made me feel?

I wasn't trying to send you away. I didn't know how to help you. You were crashing out. What was I supposed to do?

So you see me crash out one time and you think it's okay?

One time?

The very first time.

Wait, wait, wait, it happened back to back.

And what happened after I came home?

It happened back to back.

Oh, I'm never gonna send you back there again.

Because I didn't want to.

A promise that's broken.

But the promise was broken because you did exactly what you said you weren't gonna do. Crash out again.

You never took the time out to even ask me.

Ooh, girl.

Ooh, girl, what?

Girl, you is pissing me off.

You piss me off all the time.

That's okay, but I'm the mom and I made sure I took care of you.

You're delusional, bro.

You're delusional.

So what do you know about your mother's lifestyle?

I know everything.

You know everything. Ariana, your mother believes that you're sleeping with men for money.

I'm not.

You're not?

I'm an entrepreneur.

Okay.

That's what I am. I'm an entrepreneur.

So you're saying that you know everything about what your mother did. How did it make you feel?

I watched my mom hustle her whole life. Yeah, you Miss Make It Happen, but okay, I Miss Make It Happen Jr.

So—

You think I want that for you?

Mm-mm, wait.

You think I want that? What? You were just in— you were on your way to school. If it wasn't for my situation, you were in school. Okay, you went to jail.

What did you expect me to do?

I expect you to continue to do better. Because you knew that's what we discussed.

I went through a lot.

Girl, be respectful here.

And I do be respectful, but that's the thing.

No, you don't. How many times you gonna call me out my name and want to fight?

Okay.

Clock it. Let's clock it all.

So let me speak. Let me speak. Let me speak.

She's cool with that. She's cool with doing that.

I'm not cool with it at all.

She's okay with that.

You know what I mean?

I'm not cool with it at all.

You up there on the yard, she call me bitch. Okay, because you sit here and act like we're also best friends. You can't be my best friend and my mom.

I can.

You can't be both. My best friend and my mom. Let's talk about it. You can't be my best friend and my mom.

That's your problem. There's no boundaries. I have been.

There's never been any boundaries. That's the problem. You were too open. I've been exposed to a lot. You're right. I've seen it all. So yes, I think I could do it, but now I'm learning I can't.

Okay.

So you're right.

You're right.

Arianne, I really do wanna know what happened with the man that showed up to the door, they're wanting the money back. What was that situation?

Men had been looking at me walking around the neighborhood. But since I was younger, I've had grown men eyes on me. I'm walking my sisters to school when I'm supposed to be in school, let's talk about it.

And you went to school right after them, right?

And then I would have to go right back out and get one. And there was times when I was taking one of my sisters to school with me, let's talk about it.

And I was at work, a real 9 to 5 on top of doing hustling, right?

You're not gonna knock my hustle though while you talking about yours. I'm talking about yours, cuz where do I get it from?

You get the hustle from me, but baby, not like this though.

Okay, so don't knock my hustle.

Not like this.

Again, let me talk about it. Not when you put me on this shirt and chill like I just have on. Okay, so let me talk about it. So to set the record straight, I'm not having sex with men for money. This man came to me offering me help with rides. My mom's not here, I'm supposed to be taking care of my family now. I am the older sister, I am used to having to take care of my younger sisters. But in this time it's like my mom's nowhere to, you get what I'm saying? I'm already feeling abandoned. So I just took it on like by all means necessary, do what you gotta do now. I genuinely felt like I could control the situation. He's an older man and he knows I'm young.

Older than me.

He's older than you, but you've done the same thing.

What do you mean? You just said you were 16. Hold on, but mine was not, not no, first off, I don't mess with them kind.

Okay, that's fine.

My kind, uh-uh, they make sure they doing what they supposed to.

That's fine. You don't even know the situation, so how do you?

I don't care what the situation is.

So you never cared though?

No. Your niece is in the audience right now. Avey, thank you for coming here. So what do you think's going on?

Ayesha is very wrong for how she raised them. Yes, very. But Ariana is also overexaggerating. Wow, TT.

But, excuse me. Excuse me. No, this is the disrespect.

No, y'all don't never let me speak. I don't never speak.

This is the thing. She spoiled.

It ain't no—

She spoiled, broke. Like I said, she was there financially. Think about what you're talking about, spoiled.

Can you be quiet?

She was there financially. She was never there mentally and emotionally.

So let's talk about it.

That ain't somebody been there. It's not. She was there financially.

And mentally and physically.

You wasn't.

Yes, I was.

You wasn't.

Oh my God.

There were times where I would come to you, girl, you only there mentally when you're drunk.

Let's talk about it.

You wanna talk when you drunk.

I do.

And then we're, okay, you do, right?

Absolutely.

You hear her, right? Okay.

Absolutely.

So you wanna talk about it when you drunk.

Yep.

People say, you know, real shit come out when you're, excuse my language, real shit come out when you drunk, intoxicated, whatever. But with you, I'll tell you, I'm not there right now. I don't wanna talk cuz I know how you get when you're drunk. You will literally force me to have a conversation with you.

So vice versa.

And I'm telling you I don't wanna talk about it. So you're trauma dumping on me. What do you do? Constantly trauma dumping on me.

You do the same thing.

So now you sit up here on this show and make it seem like I'm just a spoiled brat.

Am I there physically and emotionally or not? But you come lay in my bed every night. Who you sleep with today? In my bed.

So you want to unlock Ariana's phone because you wanted to find out if she is working as a sex worker, correct?

Yes.

That's the main thing. So I think it's time to get to unlocking this phone.

I broke my phone before I came here.

Well, she's telling the truth. She did not unlock her phone. She told the producers that she left it at home and that it was broken. Is that true?

Yeah, I mean, I thought she got it fixed by now.

It's interesting because most 22-year-olds will get their phone fixed quickly.

Yes.

You know, like—

But what happened to them then, huh? My phone would've been fixed by now.

But you don't want me doing— See, this the thing. She's oh so worried about me. She's oh so worried about, oh, you can die, you can go to jail. But you're literally telling me, oh, my man will do it. So what do you think I'm gonna try to go get?

'Cause they do it for grown men.

Go get a grown man to go do it.

When you call them, don't they do it?

So you're okay with it?

I said my friends.

Like I said, so you're okay with it? You're happy that my friends—

Don't they do?

Okay, so where do you think that came from? I don't care if it's your friend or not.

You don't need your friends because your friends ain't doing it right. Your friends not doing it right. My friends doing it right.

Okay, but where would you think?

So what is going on? I feel like there's something blocking here and missing here.

It's her. She definitely needs to to think about what she be saying. Because if you're telling me, if she's telling me. Absolutely, but if she telling me she needs this, right?

But she not doing that.

She didn't contact me.

I'm wondering how I feel and what I have been through. I done been into mental institutions to a point to where I was overly medicated. I couldn't talk, I was zombified. I couldn't even go into a grocery store and hand them a credit card. They're asking me, what's wrong with your hands? Why you trembling? How many times have you put me through that? You're also not thinking about You're saying I'mma crash out now, but let's talk about it. You said you put me in there after Grandma passed. Who found Grandma?

Who had to call them after we both went in there and had to confirm that she was dead? After seeing some shit like that, what you gonna do? You're gonna lose your mind. So of course, I'm already, I already have insomnia.

Yes, I was walking around sleepless nights not sleeping. Yes, I'm thinking, okay, I got this shit. I'm strong, bro. I'm built for this shit. I got it. But at the time I did lose my fucking mind, yes. So yes, I lost myself, but I'm trying to get myself back.

So I have to, okay, I gotta be very clear. I gotta be very clear because I spotted this from the beginning. I think that you're not taking into consideration something very critical here. And I think this for you as well. I think y'all are not taking into consideration the fact that even though y'all talk candidly, talk openly, everyone's an open book, even though that you provided financially for your child, I think we're forgetting that this is a child. Trying to process my mother telling me openly that she was a sex worker, my mother telling me that she pimped out guys, my mother telling me any of the things that you said that you did, children aren't emotionally equipped to handle that. But all of that is sitting inside of her not being processed. And she's walking through life trying to say, I really don't know.

That's how I processed it. Karamo, I'm the only girl from my mama's job.

And you're not.

And you better than me, baby.

I don't care how much I look like you.

That's the difference, you gonna be better than me.

I'm not you. Hold on, but here's the thing.

I'm not you and you're not me.

And for you to want her to be better than you, that's beyond me.

People, she keep comparing me to her 'cause she want a different life for me, but she compares me to her.

Did you hear what she said? 'Cause she said—

Watch that.

Now take that, now compound it with the fact that she's had to be the oldest. She's had to be the one to step up, do everything. Do you understand what your daughter has been experiencing? That sometimes being transparent doesn't mean that you're being a parent?

Yes. I apologize for it. I apologize. I love you.

You're doing great.

I love you so much, baby. I'm sorry.

I want you to hear this. I want you to hear this seriously. I got this. This is the goal for this relationship. Your daughter doesn't need any more transparency. She needs a parent that's gonna have clear boundaries in everything.

Okay.

This relationship can be salvaged. You love your daughter.

Dearly.

I know you're on this stage because you love her. I don't question that one bit. And I do believe you know in your heart that your mother loves you. So can you promise your child right now, why don't you turn to your child and say, I commit to helping you to process your emotions.

I commit to working on helping you process your emotions.

Okay. I commit to making clear boundaries between us.

I'm definitely gonna make clear boundaries with us.

Okay. Now I need you to commit because even though you're 22 and you're the child in the situation, you also have to step up. I commit to tell you what I'm needing without being angry.

I commit to telling you what I'm in need of without being angry.

I commit to not being disrespectful in moments when I'm feeling hurt or lost.

I commit to not being disrespectful when I'm feeling hurt or lost.

Okay. Now I made her make that commitment to you because this is not a one-sided relationship. This is two-sided, but I do believe there could be work here.

All right.

I wish you both the best of luck. I sincerely do.

All right.

All right, everyone, stay with us. We'll be right back with more. Let me give y'all both a hug.