Is My Girlfriend Getting Paid For S*X?! | KARAMO

Why do you think your girlfriend Lisa is getting paid for sex?

Well, first off, I know for a fact that there's family members, family friends that live under her roof that are. So basically, if it's happening under your roof, in my eyes, you're a madam or a pimp. Mm-hmm. This is the way it is. Or you're participating.

Okay.

I mean, that's just the way I look at it.

What did you find behind Lisa's bed?

Condoms, pills, but supposedly nobody goes in her bedroom, so the bed was distraught. There was a folding chair in the corner of the room, like somebody's watching something. It just, it wasn't, it's just not right.

Let me ask you, and not to get personal, but I'm assuming that when you two are intimate, you don't use condoms anymore.

Nah.

Okay, so that's why finding condoms would be suspicious.

Right, exactly.

Okay, have you ever done a background check on Lisa?

I have done a background check. There was something in there that no longer, it was expired, expunged or whatever about prostitution, but that was, it's no longer there anymore.

[Speaker:KARAMO] Well, if it was expunged, how did you know that it was prostitution?

[Speaker] 'Cause it, I don't know if it was a false background check that I saw, but it said on there it was, there was prostitution.

[Speaker] It said it was prostitution. So you didn't see an expunged official one?

[Speaker] No.

[Speaker] You saw something that was fake. Okay. Well, my producer told me, 'cause this was something just popped up. Okay, producer tell me we took a look into Lisa's background and did a background check and nothing came up.

[Speaker] Okay.

[Speaker] Okay. And how long have you been with Lisa?

This second go around has been 2+ years. I've known her for over 25.

Okay, 2 years this second go around. How long was the first go around?

Let's say 12. 'Cause in between there, I got, you know, I ended up getting married and having my own family.

Okay, so you were together for 12 years, then you broke up so you could have your own family.

Yeah.

And then you got back together for 2 years.

Yeah, she found me on Facebook.

Got it, okay then. And my producers told me that you don't live together.

No.

Is that true? Why not?

She lives with whoever and I've asked her to move in with me and for whatever reason, she's always tippy-toeing, not wanting to.

So you want to take the step? You wanna live together?

I just wanted to get everything out in the open and cleared up so I can move on.

Got it. We're unlocking Lisa's phone today, but my producer told me that you also brought some other things that you wanted me to investigate.

Yeah.

Can I see those, Raf? Okay. Oh wow. Okay. Thank you, Ra. Okay, so these are all the devices that you want me to investigate?

Yeah.

Okay.

I just wanna know what's going on. I mean, I brought everything that I basically—

So these are cracked. A lot of these are cracked.

Yeah, 'cause she tried to break it.

So she breaks them?

Yeah. Well, I broke one too because she was on it too much.

Okay, you broke one as well. So most are cracked. And then you also brought, oh, you brought old film strips.

Yeah, I don't know who's those. I don't know what those are. I don't even know what, those are not even mine. Those are not even mine.

And you would like us, you would like our investigator to blow these up so we can see what these are.

Yeah, I have no clue what they are. They ain't mine. I don't know what they are.

I mean, I see, I saw pictures in there with, Some of y'all young kids, this is what we used to have before y'all had the iPhones, okay? Hold on, you, well, I don't think we'll be able to do anything with this tape.

She broke that.

She broke this.

Yeah, yeah.

Something was on this, you feel?

Yeah.

Okay, interesting, okay. So we have almost 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 different devices that you want to get checked as well.

Yeah.

Okay.

That one I threw across the street.

This one you threw across the street?

No, this one.

This one you threw the big one across the street. Okay. This is a lot that you have.

I just want to know the truth.

You wanna know the truth, okay. All right, well I think it's time to hear Lisa's side of the story. So everyone please welcome Lisa to the show.

Why are you lying already?

I'm not lying. You're lying.

I never once broke a phone of yours, not once.

I just wanna know the truth. I just handed it to you, Jenny. I just wanna know the truth.

So let's not start out lies.

What's the condom behind your bed then? Okay, I'm not citing lies.

I'm stating the facts.

You are tired.

I am. It's been over a year. He's still talking about things that happened a year ago. A year ago.

Nothing happened. Did we not get a phone call at 2 o'clock in the morning? And we knew who it was. And we knew what he was doing.

So who was it?

It was a family friend who just got out of jail.

Okay.

He couldn't get into my place, so he called me. He said, I'm going to climb through your window in case someone calls you saying someone's climbing through your window.

It's me.

The end.

Got it.

Who's very young.

And so am I. You're, okay.

Younger than you.

Younger than you. Is there an age difference between you two?

Yes, there is.

What's the age difference?

11 years.

11 years, okay. So when this younger man is saying he's staying at the house, do you feel intimidated by that? Do you feel like you're a mom?

I'm not intimidated, I don't care. It's just all the time, it's just—

He has no parents, he has nowhere to go.

It's not my problem.

Then that shit paid me. Why are you putting up with it for a year?

You deal with him before, you put other people ahead of mine. Your soulmate, okay.

Nick also made claims that you're involved in sex work. Is that true?

No, and I even told him, he thought I was arrested for it. Let's go down to the courthouse and look at my paperwork. No, we couldn't do that, but he looked me up and he found everything on, but when I asked him to show me, it's always not there. I can't find it.

You was there, I showed you.

He didn't show me nothing with prostitution.

Well, because of that claim, our team, we did do the research and all that.

I know there's something wrong.

There was nothing that we found in the background. What about the condom?

Thing. So what if it's never there? Nobody goes in your bedroom.

There was somebody in my bedroom, a family member who had to stay. I was with you for a week. I was— they do use condoms.

Okay, but nobody's allowed in your room?

It was a family member that stayed there. Okay. I told them they could use my room because they had nowhere else to go.

Okay, to sleep. You're saying a family member stayed in your bed and that's who's possibly used condom?

I talked—

yes. Okay, it wasn't used, it was still in a wrapper.

Yes.

Got it. So what happened on Christmas Eve?

Christmas Eve, I was with him for like, I'm like, for 3 days before Christmas Eve. As soon as he drops me off, I'm a bitch. I'm everything. When we're together, we're good. When he drops me off, I'm out there, I don't know what I'm doing, but I'm out there.

Nick, is that true? When you're together, you feel good, but then the minute you leave?

Tell the truth.

There is, there's a lot of times, but then there's just stories that, boy, I gotta go home to do this, I gotta go, where are you gonna go home for? For what?

Maybe I wanna see my family.

For what?

Maybe I wanna see my family.

Oh my goodness gracious. Old enough to have his own kids.

So the fact that she wants to see her family is a bit of an issue. It's a big deal.

It's just like too much.

It's weird. Why is it weird that she wants to see her family?

Because I don't wanna argue anymore.

Why do you get phone calls from this person's friends? These people's friends have to call you. You're the middle person every time.

That was a year ago.

It just happened last week too. Okay.

Tell the truth.

And why can't he get phone calls from these people directly and they have to go through her?

Is it true, Lisa, that he burned your clothes? Is it true that he burned your clothes?

Yes, he burned my clothes. Tell me why. In his living room fireplace because I'm a whore and I get fucked.

So you burned her clothes?

I did, Miles, she said, you know.

I have lots of things at his house. Well, there's not anymore 'cause he took videos and sent them 10 friends.

That's the other day.

My personal stuff, my kids' stuff from—

The one night I told her to come home with me. Not once, not twice, 3 times. I told her to come home with me and dude is already passed out.

I'm like sick of it, I'm like so sick of it.

She ended up wanting to stay in there with him for whatever reason.

I'm sorry, Miles.

You're coming home with me.

Got it.

Because we argued the night before.

Why am I gonna stop arguing with him if all we do is argue?

Why am I gonna move in with him if all we do is argue?

I'm not putting myself in that position. So I asked him the same question. I asked him why he stayed.

It's hard to be accused of shit.

Well, I asked him why does he stay, and I'm asking you again, why do you stay?

Because I love him, and when I knew him before, this isn't the Nick I knew. I don't know what's going on in his head. But when there's something in his head, there's nothing getting it out of it. Nothing. Even if I showed him proof, he doesn't care.

Do you ever suspect him of cheating?

I don't know what he—

I know that I don't cheat.

Here's the funny thing. I'll give him my phone, he'll look through it for 2 hours. I do this to his phone, what are you doing on my— I can't even touch a button on his phone.

Got it. Is that true? You don't give her the same courtesy to go through your phone?

There's no reason for her to go through my phone. I don't get phone calls 2 o'clock in the morning.

It doesn't matter.

I don't get phone calls 2 o'clock in the morning. Let me look. I don't look at my phone like this. There's nothing to hide. I don't look at my phone and hide it. Let me look. It's a weather app.

Okay, well, I think it's time to unlock the phone. Okay, so my producers want me to unlock your phone first, Lisa, but I don't want to. I actually wanna unlock yours phone first, Nick, because—

'Cause mine's boring.

Yeah, I've just been in this game a long time. So Nick, we're actually gonna unlock your phone first, all right? Lisa, you wanna know if Nick has any photos of other women on his phone. He says he does not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his photos and found that Nick is not telling the truth. We found 4,455 explicit photos.

How many?

4,455.

4,000.

Look at all these new photos he has.

Explicit photos of different women found on your phone.

That's from those websites.

Oh, now we got excuses.

These are from those websites y'all was looking through.

You were looking for me on those websites?

You were looking for her and you found 4,465 women?

Those were sent to me.

Those were sent to me, okay.

I don't even know her.

All right, Lisa, you wanna know if Nick is interacting with any other women online. He says he's not. My Lock the Phone investigator searched his phone and found that Nick is not telling the truth. We found he interacted on multiple dating websites 523 times over the past 3 months.

Way to go, way to go, good guy.

Looking for you.

Good guy, looking for me. This is all coming back to me now, see?

Lisa, you want to know if is messaging any other women? He says he is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his apps and found that Nick is not telling the truth. There was 426 interactions between Nick and multiple women, including several websites.

All the websites, 420 websites, 4,000 websites. But I'm the bad person here. I'm the bad person. Um, Also, I have the cashier. Can we make this happen? Oh, that's nice. Nico.

Nico.

That's nice, Nico.

So just let you know, there's something else. My investigator also found 144 messages between Nick and another man where Nick was pretending to be you.

That was true.

Can I see these messages?

Yeah, that's true. 'Cause he thought it was you.

Thank you, Rob.

That's fine.

He thought it was you.

That's fine. Well, if a girl's gonna come after a guy, the guy's gonna reciprocate.

Yeah, right.

Just so you know.

Yeah. Yeah, that's why he knew it was you. 100% was you.

So these are all the messages of you pretending to be her.

Is that legal?

It's not.

I didn't think so.

Yeah, can I remember? Oh yeah, you're having full-blown conversations with this man pretending to be her.

You're a fucker.

You are a complete fucker. He's just digging, digging, digging so hard he wants to try to find something on me so bad and he can't, so he's just gonna reincarnate shit. Make up shit.

Again, like I said, I've been in this in a while, so a lot of the accusations, we now know that you're doing it.

Yeah, yeah. Those websites, I was on them just because I was— I was looking for shit on my face.

No, I'm not gonna get outta your face. How many times you spit in my face?

That's okay. You cannot sit here after we found the truth and then gaslight her to make her feel. And so this is, this go as if she's doing something, telling us that you were on websites to find her, that you interacted with women and paid for sex to find her. So the funny part, you did all of this hoping to find her cheating and my spidey senses told me.

Why did you wanna find me cheating so bad?

I wanna show y'all, 'cause you know I take notes on this. The first things I wrote was extreme paranoia, delusion, controlling, and borderline.

Yeah.

There it is.

So Nick, I'm gonna actually leave my stage because you're a little gaslighter, this woman.

Thank you. All right, see ya. Stamps.

Yeah, I already knew that was coming without even knowing. Lisa, come close to me, 'cause I already know I'm probably not gonna fit nothing in there.

In this? Let's see.

I don't sell my body. I don't.

Okay. So we unlocked your phone and I'm just doing this just because I wanna know if you're getting paid for sex work. You said you're not, you're telling the truth. Wanna know if you're texting with any other men. You say you're not, you're telling the truth. You wanna know if you're communicating with any other men at all, anywhere on any apps. You said you're not, but you did log onto a dating website. 538 times. And girl, I'm glad you did. You should have been re-interacting.

I was looking for myself 'cause he said he found me out there. That's the only reason I went on to find myself.

I didn't see— we didn't find any of you interacting with him. But he was telling me I was out there. What I'm telling you is you should stay on those websites because this man has been trying to manipulate you.

Crazy.

He wants control of me. And as soon as he's not got control of me, everything But like, why would you stay with someone who you think is doing all that crap?

Extreme paranoia, delusional, bipolar.

Yeah, I know he's delusional 'cause he makes shit up and then he, that picture, like, come on.

You have to leave him alone. You have to leave him alone. And I know I asked you earlier and you said because of love. I don't know where in your life you'd found out or decided that that's the definition of love.

It's not, it's not.

I know that.

I know before when I knew him a while ago, the first year we started this second time around, It was great. Then I don't know what happened.

It's not your job to know what happened.

No, but it's like—

What your job to know is to look at the reality.

I wanna help him, try to be a better person and try to help him.

The better person is for you to help yourself.

I'm making it worse.

Hear me out. It's for you to help yourself. Because what he displayed here, this is key, this is key. When caught, he still tried to blame you.

Yeah, I'm always, I'm gonna be blamed for everything.

So you have to say bye.

He would invite me over, like, why would you wanna whore even come to your house?

You have to find your power to let him go. You cannot engage and you cannot interact. I just did a post on my social media being funny, but I said, how do you interact with a narcissist? You don't say nothing. The more that you try to interact with him, the more you try to prove to him, all you're doing is feeding into what he's doing.

I agree with you. I agree with you. So what you have— I did try to help him. He's beyond my help.

Please, I ask you to walk off this stage and walk away from him forever.

Okay.

Okay?

Like, I'm tired of being accused of everything. Like, it's all me. For him to be— This is crazy.

For him to be breaking your devices, throwing stuff.

And I hand his back very nicely. I don't have to break his phone.

And I also heard you say, I also heard you say, and let's be real about this, when you got into his face, you said that he spits on you.

Yeah, he spit in my face twice.

You deserve more than this. Dismantle this relationship and walk away. Be silent and feel yourself being grounded. If you can do those two things, you can walk away from the situation with your head held high and get that life you want where you are stress-free with no crazy-ass man around you, okay? So please be silent and be grounded, okay? Say it with me. I'm gonna be silent.

I'm gonna be silent.

And I'm gonna be grounded.

And I'm gonna be grounded.

Thank you for being here and I wish you the best of luck and I'm glad you've been vindicated, okay?

Thank you.

All right everyone, stay with us, friends.

We'll be right back with more.