I've Been Nothing But Sober & Faithful! | KARAMO

When did he start accusing you of cheating?

At the beginning of our relationship. It's been rocky since we started dating.

How long y'all been together?

Almost 2 years now.

2 years, okay.

We've been married for almost 1.

1 year married, okay. And it's been rocky from the beginning, you said?

Yeah.

Okay, so you're pregnant right now.

Yes.

Congratulations.

Thank you.

Does he think he's the father?

He accuses me of sleeping with somebody else. And he thinks that I did that, which I didn't, but he thinks that somebody else is the father. And especially when he gets angry, he likes to express the fact, "I don't even think that baby's mine." How does it make you feel that he questions you? Uh-uh, stressed, upset, you know, 'cause I'm trying everything I can to prove that I am trustworthy now. Like when we first met, we were using drugs together and now we're clean. And I'm trying to prove myself to him.

[Speaker] Okay. So when you were using drugs, 'cause you said prove yourself now, did you cheat on him before?

[Speaker] I have.

[Speaker] Okay.

[Speaker] But he knows about that. And I expressed that I feel guilty about it, but I obviously wasn't in my right state of mind 'cause I was using drugs. But now that I'm sober, I'm a very different woman than I was when I was using substances.

[Speaker] Do you think he's cheated on you?

I have the thoughts in the back of my head and I sometimes, especially when he's at work and he doesn't respond to my texts or my calls.

You think maybe?

Yeah.

Okay, so let me take, go back because before everything, how did y'all meet?

We actually met when we were in jail and so there was a medical curtain. It stood right here. That was the only thing separating him and I, like the men's pod and the women's pod. And every time I'd walk across to go to medical, He would holler at me, I didn't look his way. And then when I finally looked, I was like, oh, he's kind of cute.

[LAUGHTER] [Speaker] You know, you find love where you find love, okay? So why did you decide to get married when you were locked up?

[Speaker] He was incarcerated, this was last year. I wanted to show him that I truly loved him and only want to be with him. So I wanted to express that through marriage 'cause marriage is a long-term thing with me. My parents were married 31 years, so I don't, I don't believe in divorce.

And he was arrested 3 weeks ago, correct? Yeah. Why?

For DUI and drug possession.

DUI and drug possession, okay, got it. Are you afraid he's on drugs again?

I don't believe he is 'cause I can see the signs. I know him like the back of my hand, so I can see those relapse signs before anybody else.

Got it, got it.

I don't think he is currently.

So did you hook up with another guy this summer?

No, I hung out with another guy and I told him about it.

Okay.

And he obviously was upset. He was incarcerated. There wasn't anything he could do. His hands were tied. But I didn't think that the guy was interested in having some type of intimate relationship, but that's what he wanted. And so after 2 days of hanging out, I stopped it.

Got it, okay then.

So nothing went further than hanging out.

So you wanted us to unlock Tyler's phone to find out a couple things.

Yeah.

If he has inappropriate photos of other women in his phone, if Tyler's texting other women since you've been pregnant, and if Tyler's using any dating apps.

Yeah.

What will you do if we find something in his phone?

Being that we're married, I mean, we're just gonna have to work it out, but I mean, I would be deeply hurt 'cause I love him with all my heart.

Got it. He's gonna want a paternity test once this child is born because he's thinking that you, this child is not his.

And that's totally fine 'cause I haven't slept with anybody else and that's what I wanna prove is that I'm not doing anything to hurt him now.

Okay, well I wanna meet your husband. So everyone please help me welcome Tyler to the show.

What are you talking about you didn't think that guy's intentions, man? You lied to me about it and went with him. You knew what the intentions were.

I honestly thought that he could be a friend because we met at an AA meeting.

Well Tyler, take a seat for me. Thank you for being here. So do you think someone else got her pregnant?

I hope not, but you know, I'm almost 30 years old. I've never wore a condom. I've had sex several times and I haven't had a child yet. So I go to jail, she has this little fiasco with this guy.

But I didn't have sex with him.

And I get out and then I see she's got a fake Facebook with her name spelled backwards.

But I didn't message anybody from that Facebook.

Why did you have the fake Facebook? Facebook?

I was using it to look up people that had blocked me.

Oh, got it. That's all it was.

I didn't message anybody and I proved that to him.

But I understand from your point of view, you're like, there's a Facebook page. You're like, I'm in jail. There's another guy. Yes, you told me, but I don't know. And so back to this not using condoms, which you should start using condoms, but back to this. So you're saying that y'all have had sex many times and she's never gotten pregnant?

Yeah, but we were using drugs, you know, that makes your fertility count go down when you're both using drugs, so that changes things. I'm a very fertile woman, I gotta have 3 other kids.

Okay, you do?

Yeah.

Okay, is any of them yours?

No.

None of those are yours? So this would be the first one that's yours? Yes. Okay then. Hopefully.

Hopefully. Don't do that.

Okay, okay. Does she accuse you of cheating?

Yeah, she does, but she only does it whenever I, I'm on to her about something, then she wanna say, "Oh, well go with whatever that chick you messing with." Have you cheated before? No, I haven't.

Never? No. Okay then. Have you ever caught him cheating?

No.

Never, okay then. So what did you do when she cheated in the past?

You know, it hurt me, man. It broke my heart 'cause I love this woman with all my heart and I've changed my ways so much, man. I've tried to control my anger. I take medication now. I'm trying everything I can to better myself. To be the man I need to be for her and our child. Good man.

And I can agree to that part, but still, like the anger that he shows towards me, like of things I've done in the past that I've already apologized for, that I've showed guilt and remorse for, he shouldn't keep doing that.

Did you snap her phone in half last week?

Yeah.

Why?

She was literally just, I just went to jail just recently And I was in there for 3 or 4 days and she was literally talking to some guy that is in the same town we live in and she erased all the other messages and only left a couple but she said, "Oh, the guy was just flirting with me and I didn't want you to get mad." But if you didn't do nothing, why would you erase it? You can show me, "Hey, he was flirting with me but I didn't do nothing back." He's an angry person.

You see he snapped the phone, like what else? Like obviously I'm—

Yeah, 'cause you deleting and hiding stuff. Why wouldn't I snap the phone?

The only reason I'm messaging other men is to try to get money to get him out of jail.

So you're admitting that you do message other men to get money to help him out of jail? Okay, yeah, but when he was in jail, it was to help him get out of jail.

He knew that too.

Is he angry when he is not using drugs?

He can be, but usually it's for a reason when he is.

Okay, and you just got another drug arrest 3 weeks ago. Are you using again?

No, no, I'm not. You know, I was clean for like a year. You know, I slipped up and then I ended up in jail and that woke me up. You know, I could possibly lose our house and everything, my job. But thankfully everything worked out and I still got my job and I'm working and everything's gonna be okay.

Got it, okay.

But I just gotta stay on the right track.

So is that when you told my producers, 'cause they're telling me right now that you said that you both relapsed 3 weeks ago?

Yeah.

Is that true?

Yeah.

Okay. Okay then, got it, got it, got it. And that's during the time you went to jail?

Yeah.

Okay then, I understand. So what do you want to happen today?

I want it to come back that she's not doing nothing wrong and that she's telling the truth and being loyal and faithful to me like she is.

I'm about to prove that to you.

But I'm telling you, man, you better hope so 'cause—

You don't gotta hope nothing.

I know we're married and stuff and you're pregnant, but listen, I don't have to be with you to be there for my child. If it is my child, you know? But I love you and I want things to work out. I just hope you tell me the truth.

I am, and I love you too.

Well, Tyler, you want us to unlock Aura's phone and see if Aura has photos of other men in her phone, if she's been talking to any men on any other apps, and if she's been texting any other men. Those are your concerns, right? Yeah. Okay, so if we find something in the phone, are you done with this relationship, or how does this work?

Man, I don't know. You know, yeah, if she's, you know, I can't just keep taking this, man. You know, love can only go so far, you know? And I love her with all my heart and I would never do that to her. And for her to tell me she feels the same way and do these things, it makes me question it, you know? And I just, you know, if she is, then yeah, we may have to split up, man, because I can't keep doing it to myself and I have to look out for my mental health. Before I can look out for anybody else.

Okay then, okay then, okay then. Before we get to unlocking the phone, I gotta just ask you, are you gonna get back into any programs or anything? Just because you all know that I worked in social services and so one of the things that anyone will look for in child protective services is they're gonna see if you're clean and if they're not, they'll remove the child. So, you know, with you relapsing 3 weeks ago, I just wanna encourage you to get into any type of program you can, sober living house because The fact that you said that you had other kids and you were, I'm sure, have those kids been taken away?

They live with their dad.

They're there with dad. Okay then, yeah. So I just wanna encourage you, just, I want, it's just, it's a supportive thing.

It's not a judgment thing. No, no. And I understand that. Thank you.

If you need resources, we can try to help you backstage because I—

We need it.

Yeah. Okay. It's all out of love.

A lot of places where we are from, we have a lot of resources and help.

Okay, good, good, good.

And we're gonna start going to meetings again to get help.

I just wanna help you. Just, you know, I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't say it. You know what I mean? Because I know what comes next. Right. Well, I think it's time to unlock the phone.

Yeah.

All right, so Tyler, we unlocked your phone.

Uh-huh, yeah.

Okay, so Aura, you wanna know if Tyler has inappropriate photos of other women in his phone. Tyler says he does not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his photos and found he's telling the truth.

Oh, good.

I told you. Aura, you wanna know if Tyler's been texting other women since you found out that you were pregnant. Tyler says he's not. My locked phone investigator searched his texts and found that Tyler is telling the truth.

Yeah, yeah. Talk some more shit. Shut up.

All right, Aura wants to know if Tyler is using any dating apps. Tyler says he is not. My locked phone investigator searched his apps and found that Tyler is telling the truth again.

Hey, cut that shit out.

There was something interesting though that we did find, and you might already know this, but we did find that he is logged in into your Instagram and Facebook accounts from his phone?

Oh, absolutely.

Okay, you did know that?

Yeah.

Okay, okay, I just wanna make sure you knew that, okay. I mean, we gonna search and tell you everything, all right. So how do you feel knowing that he's not doing anything, he's not talking to anyone?

I'm happy, it's relief.

Okay, good, good, good.

You know, 'cause I stress and being pregnant and being stressed out is not for a pregnant woman.

Of course not, yeah. Well, now it's time for your phone, Aura. We unlocked your phone.

Hey!

All right, Tyler, you wanna know if Aura has photos of other men in her phone. Aura says she does not. My Unlock Phone investigator searched her photos and found she's telling the truth.

Period.

Put some respect on my name.

Tyler, you wanna know if Aura has been talking to other men on any apps. Aura says she is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her apps and found that Aura is not telling the truth. She has a total of 544 Cash App transactions as recently as 3 days ago. And some of them are not from the 4 men that you already know about. We found additional transactions from. So what were those transactions for? 'Cause I know you said before.

What are the dates on those again?

They're from 3 days ago.

It don't matter what the date is.

Oh, the requests? Yeah, I just request money from all the contacts that I have. It does matter what the day is, 'cause if I'm requesting and they're not sending, that doesn't mean nothing.

All right, Talya, you wanna know if Aura has been texting other men. Aura says she has not. My locked phone investigator searched her texts and found that Aura is not telling the truth. My investigator found 556 texts asking men for money as well, and this is as recently as last week. So why are you asking? 'Cause I know you said before when he was in jail, you were asking for money to bail him out, but he's been out now for 3 weeks. Why are you still asking?

But he knew that 'cause we're in between checks and times are hard and we're both—

Man, times ain't that hard, man. Like I got money to pay the bills. I work, like you gotta cut the shit down.

That's fine. I'm not worried about it.

Now I can understand both of your perspectives. I understand the trust issue for you that it was broken from the beginning. I get that. And I also understand from your point of view that you're in survival mode. And it sounds like at one point when you were getting the money to help him outta jail, he was okay with it. And now that you're trying to get money for other whatever things for your household, whatever it is, that it's not okay. And so what has to happen here, and this is gonna be a journey, I'm gonna be honest with y'all, because of the fact that you're just freshly trying to start your journey of recovery, there's still gonna be parts of, of your past when you were using that's gonna pop up. It's gonna trigger you. It's gonna make you feel as if you wanna use again. It's gonna make you feel like, I'm angry, I'm lost. And so I don't wanna give you some generic advice of like, you know, just like try to work it out, try to talk it out. This is really where you gotta step in and get somebody else to be there for y'all. Like that's why I was saying before the programs, and I'm glad you have some in your town, because even though you're in recovery and you're out, you need somebody who's gonna help you to manage your feelings, your emotions and also to help y'all rebuild this trust. I can clearly see y'all are not gonna break up 'cause y'all love each other, but this love has to be shifted in something healthy.

Right, right, I agree.

And y'all gotta get some support for that. That would be my best advice to y'all because that's gonna help y'all to really build this relationship up. And then once this child is out, if you need support in figuring out if this is your child, we'll support you all, all right?

Yes.

I wish y'all the best of luck. I'm glad y'all have answers though, I really do. I'm glad y'all have answers. And I really do wish y'all on that great path. All right. All right, friends, stay with us. We'll be right back.