In this episode of Karamo, host Karamo mediates a heated family confrontation involving multiple participants (Speaker A, Speaker B, Speaker D, and Norma). The core dispute centers on the removal of several children into foster care, accusations of abandonment, alleged abuse, and the role of the Administration for Children’s Services (ACS). Speaker A claims she never abandoned her children, while Speaker B and D accuse her of neglect, drug use, and lying. The conversation reveals a history of substance abuse, unstable housing, and inconsistent visitation, which contributed to the children’s removal. Karamo probes the participants about timelines, responsibilities, and evidence, including a text exchange presented by Speaker B that is contested by Speaker A. Emotions run high as each party defends their perspective, with accusations of fraud against the child‑welfare system, claims of unfair blame, and expressions of love mixed with resentment. The episode illustrates the complexities of family reunification, the impact of systemic failures, and the personal toll of foster‑care separations.
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They believe that I abandoned them. I never abandoned them.
If we gonna tell a story, tell it right. But don't sit up here.
No, no, no, you tell it right.
No, don't sit up here.
No, no, no, I'm not gonna come here.
Hold on, let me tell you something.
I'm not gonna come here for all this facts right here. Don't sit up and tell them that. I'm not here for that baby.
Who punched you in your face? 'Cause it wasn't me.
Who said it was you?
So who was it?
It was your sister.
No, she didn't, Ma.
Oh, she didn't punch you in my face?
No, Ma, stop lying.
I wanna know from you, how do you think you got to this point?
They feel like I'm the one of, I'm the bad guy of the picture. I've tried with them throughout all my life. You only look for me when you need me.
Nobody needs you, though.
Oh, you don't need me? But I raised your kids.
No, you didn't. How the fuck you raised my kids? Look how beautiful that is.
This is what this is about.
This is the kids that you think that I'm gonna be upset about. Because you wanna talk to people like me that has kids.
You act like one. I'm not sitting here lying. I didn't come here to make sure I'm perfect. And I said it, I'm not perfect, but I've never let these kids behind.
So you're saying your kids were in foster care and you were there?
Yes.
She was not there.
How is that possible?
While they was in foster care, they was coming and going back and forth.
We had visitation.
Basically, all right, when we did get taken away, my mom, she did do, you know, she did do certain things. She did do it. I will never take that from my mother. But once again, you have to grow up. People can't give you back kids or give you what you want when you not going and putting no effort in. No effort, no effort. They would've gave you back your children if you was clean, you had a house, if you had a job, if you had everything as a stable woman.
Were you on, I get it, you're right, you're very much right. Were you on drugs during that time?
Back then, yeah.
Okay then.
Yeah, but I did everything I could possibly do, I did it. But the problem is that this drags for a whole lot of fraud with the system.
Okay, so you told my producer that you feel like you were unfairly blamed.
They blame me for everything.
Uh-huh, and you don't feel like that's fair?
I don't, and I don't owe them nothing because the minute you have all that energy to put your hands on me and hurt me like I'm a piece of crap, well guess what, I don't feel nothing for you. I love them, but I can't be around them.
Norma, why did you call ACS on Karamo?
Tell her why did that happen. Can you ask her why did you?
I did, she said she doesn't understand.
She didn't understand why? Will you tell this child the reason why I called ACS on this child?
We're not gonna talk about that.
She left her kids alone in the house and was with a guy in the field while I was in Queens. I ran all the way from Queens to Red Hook because her daughter was outside by herself 'cause they were alone in the house. Exactly, that's what I'm talking about.
But we not gonna do it like that 'cause she done fucking lied to us.
Say everything. 'Cause he don't always tell his truth normally.
We not doing that. We're not doing that straight like that. We're not doing that. Shut up 'cause you not telling the truth.
We're not doing that.
I'm doing that straight like that because you're a liar. That's why I got everything to back it up.
You brought a text exchange between you and your mother. I want to see this text exchange.
This point you can't even spell. Listen, this is my point.
You don't show up.
Wait, let me show you. This is my point, you dirty ass little bitch. This is why I got recorded so people can see what type of time are you on. Grateful, but blah blah. Girl, bye.
Stop playing with me.
This is what she does.
No, this is not what it is.
Every time she don't get her way. Get the fuck outta here.
This is not what it is.
I just wanna know, did you send it?
Yes, but you gotta see why. But you have to see why. If I scroll all over my phone, you will see the things, the things, and why we already have a lot of issues.
She makes her life about you. You can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that.
So what?
So what? You had 7 kids and you got all of them took in with you.
