Mom, Divorce Your Toxic and Abusive Husband! | KARAMO

My mom, she's been single for 15 long years, you know? And when she met Eddie, she really felt like she found her love, you know?

Yeah.

And we welcomed him in with open arms. He really showed us that he was a good guy. He was down for my mom. The whole family accepted him. And the moment that they said I do, we got a different Abby.

Really? So you told my producers, you say like he's a wolf in sheep's clothing.

A wolf in sheep clothing.

Wow.

He's possessive, controlling, insecure, jealous.

Wow.

And today, Karamo, I just want, I want my mom to end this marriage.

Wow, okay.

I want my mom to end this marriage today.

He snatched off your mother wig?

Yes, in public, humiliated my mom in public.

I can't even believe that. First of all, like I couldn't even imagine touching a Black woman's hair. Wig or a head, but secondly, you doing that in public. I mean, all of it. What was his excuse or reasoning behind why he thought he'd do that?

Let Eddie tell it. This is his woman and he own her. That's his woman now. She belongs to him.

So what other red flags did you notice? 'Cause that's clearly a red flag for me.

What other red flags did you notice? Eddie just being super, Super controlling. He's in her phone. He has face recognition on his phone. So they went to amusement park and he has face recognition on his phone where he can find her in the crowd. And he buys every phone. If anybody has that number that he doesn't know, he's buying her a whole new phone.

Really?

Yeah. So he's very possessive and controlling.

So he'll buy multiple phones?

Yes. Every month my mom gets a new phone. I did welcome them into my home and everything was pretty good, but when Eddie started lashing out, getting outta control, it's time for him to leave the house. And things just took a toll from there. Eddie kicked the door in and set the lawn on fire.

So you're saying Eddie did this?

Yes.

And he set your lawn on fire?

Well, I believe Eddie did this, but Eddie is telling me that My neighbors across the street was trying to break in my home and kidnap my mom.

Oh, okay.

Yes.

Okay. And then what about setting the lawn on fire? What happened there?

Now when I did get Eddie outta the home, you know, he took his luggage and everything and set it on fire on the lawn and—

His own luggage?

Yes.

And what was his reasoning for doing that?

I guess, He just didn't want to leave. He didn't want to get—

And who put out that fire?

The fire department.

So the fire department had to be called?

Yes.

Wow.

The whole lawn.

Was it true that you pulled off her wig in public? Yes.

But that's when we first got together. A couple times we were together, I used to want to see her real hair. And I used to say, "I'm gonna pull your wig off." Now, you a Black man now. And I just pulled it off.

I pulled it off. I'm asking, brother, brother.

I pulled it off because when I pulled it—

To do that in public, that's humiliating.

That's humiliating.

But she made me mad, and then at the same time—

That's the type of stuff that you should've did behind doors with your mom.

She made you mad, so you wanted to humiliate her, so that's why you pulled it off.

Yeah, and at the same time I was messing with her, I said, I'm pull your, I tell her first, I'm finna pull your wig off.

You don't, you never take mom's feelings into consideration, like you don't think that hurt her, humiliated her to have that done to her in public, in front of everybody? Whether they knew you guys or not, like, that's—

Listen, my wife, her mama is stronger than what she's saying. Mm-hmm.

She is.

Yeah, her mama strong.

Her mom is a strong woman, but—

She— That's why when me and her be doing that, that don't really phase her.

Yes, it does.

It does.

I don't think so.

You don't think so? She don't let you— She would never show a sign of weakness to you because she is a strong woman, but deep down inside, that hurts my mom. To hear my mom on the phone crying and saying how you treated her and disrespected her, that breaks my heart.

But she do that with y'all on little stuff.

It doesn't matter how little or small it is. You're hurting your wife.

Do you drink a lot? Yeah. Okay, so there's substance abuse issues?

Drinking.

Drinking, okay. Eddie, thank you for telling me, 'cause I needed just to get your side of the story, so now I have a very clear picture of everything. But now I think it's time to talk to your mother Juanita and get her side of the story. So everyone please welcome Juanita to the show.

He has no reason to believe other than something in his head, 'cause he has no evidence.

Well, I heard earlier that every time you think she has somebody new in her phone, that you buy her a brand new phone and make her change the number.

Is this true? Yeah, because she, she stopped being on the phone with me.

I lie.

You do. That's wrong.

That is really wrong.

For real.

I never heard of this.

So I stopped buying her phones.

You don't cheat on her? 'Cause you a ladies' man. You ever cheat on her?

I ain't cheat on her. I swear I don't cheat on her.

How many ladies you got calling you? How many ladies you got calling you?

I ain't got no problem.

You gotta have a lady. You came out here with this smooth watch. Let me talk to you real quick.

You got a smooth watch, this hair.

I know you got a bunch of ladies talking to you. How many ladies you got talking to you?

I love my wife, but still.

I love you too, but the disrespect and the controlling aspect. You got some cowgirls.

You got some cowgirls.

I'm tired of this wrong place, wrong time. We argue every day.

Listen, it's important that you know, tell the truth. If somebody talking to you crazy, you gonna talk to them crazy.

No, I'm a little more evolved than that.

That's what she do. She'll sit up and talk to me crazy.

But he started.

Yeah, uh-huh.

He started it all day, every day.

He brought you here to unlock your phone to see if you're cheating. How'd that make you feel?

I don't mind, 'cause I'm done.

You didn't mind?

Mm-hmm. And what do you hope? You think you're gonna catch her cheating?

If I, if, yeah.

You think you'll catch her cheating?

I'm not gonna really be, I'm gonna just be real. I'm gonna be grateful and thankful to God, but I'm gonna be in a deep thought about her all over again.

Why stay married?

I tell him all the time. Lately it's gotten so bad because we argue every day. Every day.

Yeah.

Everywhere we go, Karamo.

Yeah. Do you drink every single day?

Yeah, I try to.

I try to.

It's so bad.

I have something to say. I'm my mom's daughter too. And it's really to you, Eddie. First thing I wanna say is Eddie, you haven't fooled me since day one. I seen those red flags before y'all even said I do. I was supportive when y'all got married. Y'all picked me up on the U-Haul. I partied with y'all and everything because I also thought too for a second that y'all getting married would make things a little better. But from the day you said I do, it has been 10 times worse. But really the red flags was there before even I said I do.

What were the red flags you saw before? Talk to me about it.

Eddie just being all the time accusing my mom. He even accused my mom with her son, And my brother, he's like 20-something years old. Her friends accused my mom for sleeping with my husband just to start turmoil for my mom coming over my house. I live in Pennsylvania with my mom. My mom—

Eddie, is that true? You accused her of sleeping with her daughter's husband? Is that true?

I've seen her do some things.

So that is true?

I've seen when we was in Dallas.

Okay, okay. My mom catches the bus to my house She gets dropped off by the police to my house probably like every other day. 30 days out the month, they fighting 28 days. And like I said, you wanna say we're not in it and this your wife? Well, that's my mom and I was here first and you put me in it.

We ended up unlocking both of your phones, but we've just heard that every single time you do something, you get a brand new phone.

But I don't do anything.

I understand what you're saying from his perspective. So my unlock the phone investigator went through both of your phones, researched your apps, your text, your GPS, and there was nothing to be found on either of your phone. So I'm going through that quickly because that's not a concern of me and it shouldn't be a concern of y'all's either because obviously as adults, we already know that he's already controlling the phone situation. So having it unlocked here is just for show because you already know what's going on her phone. You get it on your phone every single day. Yeah. Yeah, yes.

And he don't never know what I—

But there was something that I thought was very suspicious. I didn't understand how it was that your neighbor kicked in the door and now hearing you, you said that you left the door unlocked for this neighbor you're sleeping with.

That's true.

That's what happened.

Okay. And I hear you, but for me there's inconsistency 'cause me, I'm all about tracking stories and I'm talking about tracking facts. I'm all about facts over feelings. So I asked you if you'd be willing to take a lie detector test so that we could get to the bottom of some truth of this 'cause I really want to know And this is a good gauge for me of where I'm going with this. Our lie detector examiner asked Eddie, regarding the damage done to the door, when it was broken open, are you in any way responsible for any of the damage? And you said no. Right. That you are not responsible in any way for the damage of that door. So I wanted to unlock the truth of this matter. What do you think this truth is gonna tell me? Is it gonna tell me that you did nothing to do with this door?

Nothing to do with it. They left that door unlocked.

Okay. The truth is, Eddie, that you are not telling the truth, that you were the one that damaged that door.

I knew it. I ain't break that door down.

How dare you do that? I knew it because you— Them lie detectors said they broke it. I had children, I had small children in that house.

Them lying, them lie detectors lying.

You messed up their—

Them lie detectors, for real, them lie detectors.

What about the safety from my kids?

And I welcomed you into my home.

So my question is, what else could you be lying about? Eddie, let me tell you something right now, brother. I'm a fair person. I gave you an opportunity to come out here. And tell me your side.

I did tell you.

You have told me your side, and what you painted for me from outta your own mouth is that you humiliated her at the beginning of your relationship because you felt hurt, that you said you have been verbally abusive, that you said that you don't mind controlling her. That's why you take the phones. These are your words.

Well, listen, bro, it's not that I try to really be that way to her. I'm like that with everybody.

You said— That doesn't help your case at all. On top of that.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

You said you got substance abuse issues. Now I gotta talk to you right here because you have your two daughters right here that are pleading. I see the pain, I see their body language, and I see that they're worried for you. Hearing you go through things like you have to get in the police cars, you are scared to tell your man that you're going on a trip with your daughters.

Yes.

Breaking doors. Setting lawns on fire?

Yes.

Your daughter is not lying when she says this is dangerous.

Yes.

Love has been outta this relationship for a very long time.

I think so too.

You know it's true?

Yes.

What is keeping you in this relationship?

I'm hoping he'll change. But it's gotten to the point we argue every day.

Well, Juanita, I gotta ask you this.

You can't listen to that crowd, honey.

Juanita. Juanita.

Yes.

I'm watching him do what he's doing at home and I'm gonna say this to you. The same way you just said you can't listen to your daughters, you said you can't listen to the crowd, next you gonna tell her you can't listen to me.

Because people can be influential.

That's why he's saying where everybody at.

And that's why I'm saying they be like, I know what's happening though.

That's part of control is you want her to only be influenced by you.

But I don't say nothing like, when I say when they talking about control, I'm talking about the way we eat, the way we, shop, go places, stuff like that. It ain't controlling like dog, sit down, and that type of control.

Yeah.

So because your definition is limited in what control is in a relationship, I just, well, we used to you having to think a certain way and they, they want to run us, huh?

Yeah. Being controlling in a relationship doesn't mean that you just only command someone to do one thing or another. It also expresses the way that you treat her, the way that you express her to be in relation to other people, the way that you allow her to live her life. The way that you interact with each other. Control is more than just commands. And you have exhibited control in everything that you have done with her. Do you understand from that definition how you're controlling? Yeah, you do, 'cause you're a smart man.

Hey, I still don't think I'm controlling. I think I'm better for it.

Juanita, I need to know. Can we switch spots with your mom for me? Yes. Thank you. Because this is beyond any talk show we're on now. Your daughters have come here because they're pleading for your safety.

Right. I understand.

This is your daughters that are pleading for you.

And I've been trying to get out and I'm going to get out. That's, that's—

What is stopping you from getting out?

I have—

'Cause she with a good. That's what's stopping you.

No.

I'm gonna ask you—

I have love for him.

I'm gonna ask you right now. I'm gonna ask you a clear question before I go any further. Do you, you're not in love. Do you want to end this relationship right now or do you wanna stay in it? The answer is leave or stay.

Leave.

You wanna leave. All right.

He's going to leave.

No, you stay here, you stay here.

He left, he left.

He heard your answer. I'm glad he locked off. You come down here because he heard you. And so that's why he made the decision to walk away. He's walked off. Yeah. Anything you need, here you go. Your daughter's getting emotional already because she's seen you take a step for yourself. What do you feel about the fact that she's saying this?

I'm just so glad that my mom just had the courage to tell him. I know that she don't want to break him because she is in love with that man, but that man does not love my mom.

That man does not. I just heard the door close. I just heard the door close. This man, by the fact that he's The fact that he lied about the damaging doors, the fact that he's verbally abusing you, the fact that he's controlling with these phones, the fact that he's trying to isolate you from other people's opinions. I know that your daughter has said that you have not had men who have shown you that next step of treating you like a wife, making you their wife. And this man did. But you know this is not what a wife deserves, right?

No, this is not.

Do you know what a wife deserves?

Respect.

Yeah. Yeah. You gonna still have this relationship?

Yes, thank you.

You're welcome, you're welcome. Thank y'all for bringing them on here, all right? You're welcome.