In this YouTube segment, host Karamo facilitates a tense family intervention between a mother (Speaker A) and her child (Speaker C) concerning past physical abuse. The child accuses the mother of repeatedly slapping him because he looks like his father, Greg. The mother repeatedly denies clear recollection, at times acknowledging a slap but refusing to provide a motive. Karamo probes for specific incidents, asks the mother to own her actions, and attempts to clarify the child's need for acknowledgment of the reason behind the abuse. The dialogue also touches on divorce-related custody tensions, the mother’s attempts to limit the child's contact with his father, and the child's demand for validation. The conversation ends with Karamo emphasizing that the child’s primary need was simply an admission that the slaps occurred, rather than a detailed justification.
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When it comes to you and Greg, that's my ex-husband, I never compare you to him. At times, she missed out somewhat. Things were a little different with her and him, but she said that something in the nature of—
That you always say she looks like her father.
Right, and I would slap her.
Wait a minute, so you saying that never happened?
No, I don't recall that.
How do you not? So I made it up? Wait a minute, let me stop you right there, let me go back. You came right in there and smacked me right in my face. And I'm like, what is that for? Because you look like him. I didn't do, I was—
No.
I'm not trying to bash you or anything like that, but I need you to own the fact that you, I'm not just making stuff up as far as you coming in or smacking me upside my head.
Do you remember this time that you're talking about?
No.
You have to not remember that. It happened on more than one occasion.
That's what I'm saying.
So can I ask, is there any moment that you remember punching or slapping Sean?
Yes.
So yes, there was moments.
And saying because I look like my daddy.
Not because of him. I felt like what went on between he and I, why should I have to sit there and explain this and that to my kids?
But he's not here to defend himself.
Because I know she's sensitive.
Did you ever try to keep her from seeing her dad?
I did at one time because when we were going through our divorce, his now wife said, oh, she's not welcome to the house. And I said, but you're not gonna, seperate my children. I said, "You gonna let this go on?" Yeah.
So can I just say one more thing?
Yes, of course you can.
Because this is, it's gonna, that's, okay. We was out and I was taking, bringing you home and we had a conversation.
About?
About you smacking me in my face.
Hold on.
And then when I mentioned it to you, those was your words out your mouth. And I just didn't say nothing else after that because you just walked away from me.
Well, the thing was that she acknowledged earlier today that she did slap you. She doesn't have the exact memory you have, but she did acknowledge today that she slapped you. Were you able to hear that earlier?
I did, I heard that.
Did you need it to be received a different way or told to me a different way?
Yes, because I want her to acknowledge the fact that when I said, "What was that for?" "Because you look like your dad," because I heard that growing up. On top of, "You stuck up and saditty like those." You used to always say that too.
I said self-centered.
No, no, no.
You're self-centered.
Stuck up, but I'm not.
I said self-centered.
I heard you say earlier that you slapped her. She wants a reason why.
I can't go back that far, you know, to try to bring it back up today.
Okay.
I cannot.
'Cause you're looking for a reason. You wanna know why.
I asked the question at the time, at the times it happened, what the reason was, and it's because you look like your father. Those were the reasons. I just need you to say that. That's it.
I can say it and not mean it. So what truth is that gonna be for me to even say it?
Well, I can tell you this right here. Just listen to this. I know why that happened. You're looking for, was it because I look like my dad? Was it because of this? Was it because you thought I was self-centered because I was Sididdy? What was the reason? And the reason she can't give you an answer is because she was in a cycle of abuse in her mind that she's like, I don't even have an answer for you. And so the thing for me that I would say to you is that you have to stop looking for that reason. The thing that you've gotten today, which I'm happy about because I asked you immediately what you needed, was you got her to admit she did hit you.
