Most Explosive Family Feuds From Season 3 | KARAMO

My father is with a woman who tried to stab me with a pair of scissors all over some weed. She was arrested that day, but before she got out, we were long gone. We were in Louisiana. We were gone for 6 months. I gave my dad a choice. You either pick her or me. And he chose that crazy bitch. That really broke my heart because it messed up our relationship that we had before she came around. And made me feel some kind of way. Me and my dad's relationship has not been the same since. We barely talk. I want my dad to know I wasn't trying to mess up his relationship. I just really wanted him to open his eyes and realize that she's not good for him.

All right, Janey joining us in the audience, but let's start with Rhonda to hear her side of the story. So Rhonda, thank you for being here so much.

Thank you.

I gotta ask you very fast, Because that's my first time hearing that. Did you go after my husband's daughter? Absolutely not.

The scissors were already in my hand at the time. I was telling him to get the hell out my house.

Okay.

No, no, no, no. Stand up. You went to get the scissors and if your daughter wasn't right there, you probably would've stabbed him. So you could stop lying. I promise you, if I wanted to cut you, you would've been cut. My police record proves it. So don't lie on me like that.

Okay, so—

And I actually loved you.

You loved?

Yeah.

You don't love her anymore?

I got love for her. But as a child, the way she performed, absolutely not. I just wanna know what I did to you. What did I do to you? When your mother didn't come through for you, I was there. Remember your 16th birthday party? 'Cause you was sitting around my house all sad and I went right out and bought you a birthday cake. Yeah, I remember. Uh-huh. What about the Florida trip? Coming, inviting you into my family, nurturing you, trying to be a mother to you. That's all I wanted to do. I know, but y'all was working. Was you supposed to smoke weed? Absolutely not. No, but I was already like that. You can't change somebody like that. That's neither here nor there. You came into my house. No teenager, no child is going to get high in my house and don't go to school. I was going to school. Karamo, we actually had to wake her up to go to school to catch the bus. I was going to school every day. You was not. What are you talking about? No, you wasn't. I was in Chicago. I wasn't in Vegas yet. I was online. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about when you were in my house in Las Vegas. Right. Exactly. And I was going to school. You did not get up for school. Yes, I was. You did not get up for school. All right. On several occasions, we had to wake you up.

How did it get to this point? How did it get to this point? I'm confused.

That's what I'm trying to figure out.

From your point of view, I mean, you're standing here now. I need to know, how did it get to this point? You're 19 years old? Yeah. Okay, how did it get to this point?

I don't know, I just don't like the way, I don't know, she too controlling, man. I don't like all that. She be forcing stuff too much. I require him to be a man.

Okay.

He don't know how to be a man, basically. He don't know how to, he be letting stuff escalate too far. He don't know how to speak up for himself.

This is your father? Yes. Your husband, he doesn't speak up, he doesn't do these things?

That's partly true. But he definitely don't stand up to her.

Okay.

See, she was, I was his only woman in his life, so to speak. So everything was about her until First Lady come. So things had to be, they had to be changed. I don't care about that. I'm sorry, things just had to be changed. I require him to be a man. No, I did not allow him to buy you weed and no, I'm not gonna allow him to kiss your ass. He don't do that. And bow down to you because you are a child. He don't do that. And that's where the disconnect came in. You know what I'm saying? 'Cause I got 3 girls of my own and you know that. I'd never treat you no different from my kids, but you're gonna respect me. I never did not respect you. Oh, the devil is a liar. This is what you told me. You said if I wasn't to wear a dress at y'all wedding, then I wasn't gonna go. And then I turned around and went back and found— You have a problem with me being gay. I don't care, I'm gonna be my way, so I don't care about what you're talking about. She says that I have a problem with her being gay. That's not the case. Damn near half of my family is homosexual. My problem with her is she try to be something that she's not.

Okay, so you were arrested, she said?

Yeah.

Yes. What happened?

Police came, they called the police on me in my house. I didn't call the police. And my dad said you called the police, so which one happened? They called the police. Both of their names were on the police complaint. I went to jail for 33 hours.

And because you were arguing with her?

I just wanted them out my damn house.

Okay, and what happened when you wanted them outta your house because you were arguing with her father?

Yeah, he wholeheartedly disrespectful again. If she can't get up and go to school, what does she need to get high for? That's counterproductive. So he goes behind my back, takes money out, and goes and buys her weed. We got a problem. That's not what happened. Because what I say goes. That's not my house. That's not what happened. I'm the lady. That's not what happened. We set up an argument in front of the police officers. You arguing the night before, you had a problem, he bought me weed. This ain't have shit to do with school. I went to school every day.

What happened when you came back?

When I came back home?

Yeah.

After jail?

Yeah.

He was gone. He had took everything. He was gone.

Got it. And how long ago was this?

This was in 2022.

2022. Got it. Got it.

It really is.

Okay.

You like the great manipulator. You do whatever you can to get whatever you want. And it's sad when all you gotta do is just be you. That's what you do. Please stop mixing me with you. Please don't do that. I'm a grown-ass woman. I don't have to be nothing I'm not. You the one still growing. You gotta get to where I'm at. I'm already grown. You gotta get to where I'm at. I don't have to be grown. She thinks she grown. I don't think nothing. She thinks she grown. No, I don't. Y'all met at a bar. Like, you don't even know me. Again, what's your problem with me again? You don't know me. Because I'm the one that sent for you and brought you into my house. What's your problem with me again? She can't even tell you why she got a problem with me. What is the problem? Just because he's being a husband to his wife. That's the problem.

What is the problem, J?

That's not the problem. The problem is you do little slick stuff. You think somebody, no, I'm not slow. You're not finna manipulate me on this show. I'm not a goofy. We're not finna do that. That's what you're not finna do. Slick is you. Do all kind of slick stuff. Girl, you sticking the whale's back. You always doing this. You do this, she do this, she do that.

So you just feel like there's disrespect in her language. That's what you feel.

Yes, and she's controlling. She think her opinion matter. It doesn't to me. My opinion does matter when it comes to my family. Not to me. Well, and that's why you where you at. You need some help. You do too. That's why you on the show. Then y'all call it, 'cause I didn't. They called me. I called them to unlock my phone. I don't know where you came from.

Like, y'all don't know how hard it is on me being stuck between both of y'all. I love both of y'all. I can't make a decision on you being my wife and you being my daughter. I came here 'cause I want y'all to get along so we get back to this family thing, taking the trips, doing what we need to do as one.

I agree. Not arguing and all this. How you doing, Karamo?

How you doing? Nice meeting you, my brother. Nice to meet you. Take a seat for me, sir. Thank you for being here. Did you know your daughter felt like this? Somewhat I did. You know, I got married and I think my daughter just felt like she was losing me. And that's not the case though. You want her to come up here? Come on upstage. Come on up here.

That's the only child. That's why I don't understand why she would even think that he would allow me Why would you even think he would allow me to mistreat you? That's crazy.

I just look at things different, basically. First of all, there's too many Sagittarius in one house.

I agree. No, you serious?

I'm a Sagittarius, she's a Sagittarius, my daughter's a Sagittarius. Hold on, let me say this real quick because the thing was, it's so interesting to me before you get into that. At the end of the day, you called this show to unlock a phone because there was issues with you two and cheating or feeling of cheating.

Yes.

But then this just exploded into something completely different.

But this contributes. This contributes. It contributes to the overall issue because while he's away, of course he wondering what I'm doing. I'm wondering what he doing. You know, it—

Got it. That's where we're at.

Got it. It's just crazy.

And is that true for you? That's true. Like when you're there dealing with your daughter, then you feel insecure about what she could be doing? Yeah, I'm not gonna say I don't have trust issues. Because I've been through some things in the past. And so you're ending up being in the middle of this.

I guess.

Do you feel like you're in the middle?

No.

Huh?

Mm-mm.

You don't? 'Cause I'm sure you feel like you're in the middle of it. You feel like you're in the middle of all this drama. Oh yeah, for sure. But the reality is, is you are in the middle of all this. I guess. It's you, 'cause you're only 19. You're still a baby. Yeah, still a blonde. And you know that. Of course she has adult—

And that's what I'm saying. By her being grown, she made herself an issue. She could've just been chilling in the peanut gallery like the rest of the kids.

No, she didn't make herself an issue.

Definitely.

She didn't. She didn't make herself an issue. Yeah.

By assuming that I control him? By thinking that I tell him what to do?

But that's not her issue.

It's there in my heart. That's what she said.

Yeah, I know.

I still wanna get back, what is your problem with me? You control my daddy.

I'm gonna tell you something really quickly because there's a lot going on here. So there's a couple things that we need to address first of all. The thing of you saying like, I can't control. You are a very strong woman.

Indeed.

And you also have set certain boundaries and standards for your household. Absolutely. So within that, those things do allow someone who is not taking a hands-on approach to seem as if they're being controlled. And so that's not your issue. That's your issue. Because the fact of the matter is that When she sets her boundaries, as her husband, you're supposed to support those boundaries. But because you're not supporting those boundaries, of course the child involved seems like, well, my dad is being controlled, which is then causing her to be in the middle of this situation. But then secondly, the fact of the matter is that you compare her to your daughters.

I'm just stating facts.

But those facts shouldn't have been stated. Hold on, hear me out. Hold on, because I'm getting to you next because we gotta clear this up.

I'm sorry, I just believe in kids being kids.

I agree with you.

You know what I'm saying? I don't care.

But this is the thing, when you start comparing a child to something else and not getting support from the father, you become the villain. And that's the issue.

That's the issue.

But you shouldn't have to take it. You shouldn't have to take it. No, no, no, no, no. You shouldn't have to take it.

I've been taking, I've been beat my whole life.

But you shouldn't have to.

I know.

You shouldn't have to.

I'm a fighter.

But you shouldn't have to. I'm a fighter. But you shouldn't have to. And that's the reality. That's the reality. You shouldn't have to. And that's where it goes to you because as her husband, you should have been the one to step up and support her in these boundaries, support her so she doesn't have to be the fighter. What I'm telling them is I'm stuck in the middle. You're not. She's stuck in the middle. This all makes sense to me, but I will tell you again, the comparison to her other daughters, the comparison to her mother, Those things she does need an apology for because those things will always, always cause conflict in your relationship. So can you, for me, can you at least for this child apologize for that? Because that's gonna hurt us forever.

I apologize, Janaye, for comparing you. Do you accept my apology? I honestly told her, I said, well, you know, let my daughter come to you.

Janaye was the talker. What do you need? Because you're crying. And one of the things that I hate a child to say over and over again is, "I don't care." Because at your age, you should care. So what do you need right now?

Support.

Support. And how do you need support?

Uh.

No one's ever asked that question, have they? I know. You deserve to think about what type of support you need so that these two individuals get on the same page and be there to support you. Because by the end of this, you're gonna know that and they're gonna be able to get on the same page to support you, all right? There is love there and I need you to hear that from somebody who don't know y'all.

I know she care more than him.

She care, you feel like she cares more than him? More than me.

It just be, yeah.

Hold on, did you, so that's a very clear, this outta your child's mouth, so she knows She knows that the fight you've had and everything has happened. Thank you for sharing that last piece with me. So what I'm gonna ask you to do is I want you to step backstage and I want you to think about what type of support you need. Okay? Thank you. All right? Go into your green room and enjoy. Now back to y'all, 'cause now I see, I see, look, we've already started to heal some stuff. Look at y'all holding hands. Look at y'all holding hands. Look at y'all holding hands. So I'm gonna ask y'all, do we really need to unlock these phones?

This is really like my best friend. Do you really think there's cheating?

Do you really think there's cheating? I don't. You don't think there's cheating?

I don't. I'm a very secure woman. Like I said, you can take them, they can have them.

Do you think there's cheating? You know what? I don't know.

I've been through some things.

I didn't— So then you know what? So I asked y'all the question, do we need to unlock the phones? You said no.

No.

But your answer lets me know we still need to unlock the phone.

Oh man.

Ramon. We unlocked your phone. So here we go. Rhonda, you wanna know if Ramon has sent DMs to any females on his two Facebook accounts. Ramon says he has not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched your DMs and found that Ramon is telling the truth.

Ah.

Huh? Rhonda, you wanna know if Ramon has made any calls to a specific female on his phone. Ramon says he has not.

Who was that?

My Unlock the Phone investigators searched his calls and found that he is telling the truth.

Don't worry about it.

Rhonda, you wanna know if Ramon has sent any explicit photos to any females. Ramon says he has not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched his photos, both in his phone and deleted. And found that he is telling the truth.

So what, you sweating, Karamo?

I ain't sweating.

You and your hands sweating? I got lotion on my hands. Good job. I got lotion on my hands, baby. Good job.

I can get it, it can be nerve-wracking. I can get it because you might think, but we searched, you haven't done anything.

I'm really tripping, y'all can get deleted messages.

Oh, we get the deleted as well, yeah. Pictures too, huh? Oh, we get deleted photos as well. Technology. Uh-huh. All right, so—

My turn.

Rhonda, we unlocked your phone. Get to this.

All right.

Ramon, you wanna know if Rhonda has any explicit photos on her phone. Rhonda says she does not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her photos and found that Rhonda is telling the truth. Karamo, you wanna know if Rhonda has sent DMs to any men on Instagram or Facebook. Rhonda says she has not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her DMs and found that Rhonda is telling the truth. Ah. Karamo, you wanna know if Rhonda has sent texts to any men on specific dates from June to August of this year. Rhonda says she has not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her texts and found that Rhonda's telling the truth.

Oh, praise God. Kiss my face.

What happened here is that there has just been an issue with your co-parenting and the lack of support for your wife that has caused these fights and insecurities. And what we've established here now is that there's truth I trust and love here, but it's time for you all to get on the same page. You know now there's no infidelity. You know now that this young girl does love you. There is respect in her for you. She said it. Like, you got to hear it. I'm glad you did.

Me too.

Because you know now, but now it's time for you to get on the same page. I sent your daughter backstage and I said, how do you need support? When she tells you how she needs support, You're gonna turn to each other and look at each other and agree. And if you don't agree with how she needs support, then you say, "We're gonna talk about it." And y'all are going to then talk about it and come back and be on the same page. Because now once your house is united, there'll be no more of this division. I wish y'all the best of luck. I actually really do think that y'all have gotten something that's gonna give y'all the first step to be a family together. Do you feel the same?

Yes.

Good. Do you feel the same?

I do.

I wish y'all the best of luck. Really, I do. Thank you.

I really do. I really do.

All right, friends, stay with us. We'll be right back with more.

I love you, baby. I love you too. Always have.

I just got you.

So you good. I raised my grandson Davion from the time he was 8 months old. He meant the world to me. On September 3rd, Davion told me he had trouble breathing. He had really bad asthma, so I made him take a treatment, but it didn't help. I did CPR on him for 20 minutes, When the ambulance got there, they worked on him for half an hour, but it didn't help. They couldn't save him. He died in my arms. I miss his smile, his laugh, his funny wit. I wish I could have saved him.

I dream about it every day.

I didn't have money to pay for the funeral, so my daughter Krista Diamond created a crowdfunding website for me. The site ended up raising close to $38,000, and I never saw a dime of it. That money was supposed to be for me and my grandson, and she took it and did whatever she wanted to do with it. The funeral only cost $19,000, and where'd the rest go? I think my daughter's a thief. The money was meant for me and my grandson. And what was left after my grandson's funeral was left for me. I raised this boy since 8 months till 9 years old. He lived with me. I am his guardian. Every time I get off the elevator, I look and see where he was. And my money could have helped me move. I lost 2 people, 'cause when my grandson passed that day, and when she took the money, I told her she's dead to me too. I need my daughter to take a lie detector test so I can find out the truth what happened to the rest of the money.

Listen everyone, we will talk to Crystal a little later, but first please welcome Crystal's daughter, Krista Diamond, to the show to hear her side of the story. So tell me what is going on between you and your mother?

Okay, nice to meet you, Karamo.

Nice to meet you too, beautiful.

Thank you so much for having me.

Yes, of course.

Okay, let me start from the beginning. My son was born on September 3rd. I have a baby born, so he's 2 years old. I was throwing a party for him, his second party on August 31st. Unfortunately, my nephew passed away September 3rd on my son's birthday. I was in New York celebrating my son's birthday. So when my nephew passed, I had to get on the highway, come straight home, you know what I'm saying? And see my mom. So I get to my mom and I'm like, what do you need me to do? At the time, my mom didn't have a phone that was working. She was switching over programs, I guess, from Verizon to whatever. And it was just a lot going on. So I took an initiative to step it up. I'mma go do a GoFundMe. We gonna raise some money for him because you didn't have no insurance. So with that being said, I do the GoFundMe, it's raising money. You know how it is, once that money goes up, everybody wants to see where it's going. So I said, let's open up a brand new account. So we can put the money in there and everybody could see. Oh no, that money's mine. It needs to go to me to move, to the kids, to all of this other things. And I'm like, at the GoFundMe, I wrote for his funeral costs and his tombstone. So there's nothing else that we should move forward with besides taking care of what we need to take care of for Davian, my nephew. And that's basically where I am. My mom disrespected me the whole time. I ended up doing everything by myself. I still don't have any help or any, type of conversation with my mom.

At all? How long has it been now?

Ever since the funeral, September 21st, she said I'm dead to her. She hasn't called me.

September 21st of this year?

September 21st of 2024 was my nephew's funeral. And I've been dead to my mother since that day.

Well, I think it's time to talk to Crystal about all of this, so please welcome her to the show. Hello, Crystal.

Hi, how are you?

I'm good, thank you.

I'm not no liar. Yes, you are. Before I even get here, you're lying. She's a liar. How am I a liar? You know what? You're a liar. Explain to the people. You're talking about 12-year-olds. Let's stick to the point. He asked me about growing up. He asked me about growing up. Your life wasn't bad. I was living there. You was mean to him. You're crazy. I lived with that baby. I had that baby. You had him, but you wasn't that much of a caregiver if he died in your hands. In your care? What do you mean? We talking about— I'm talking the truth, Momma. Let's talk about it. That's why you got the gap between your lips, 'cause you lie. That's why the gap is there. I took a lie detector test so that I could stand strong for my nephew. What happened to his legacy? Did you even post anything about him? Excuse me. Do you even talk about him? For one, Karamo, it was a GoFundMe fund. The bitch didn't put a dime in there. So how was it her money? On the GoFundMe, it said for his funeral costs and his tombstone. It don't say Crystal's— it don't say Crystal's card. You paid $1,500 for big posters. No, I didn't. It was $350. They have the receipts. Okay, well, you paid $1,500. That's the thing. You always talk like you know and you never call the source. I'm the source. Did you call me? Did you call me? You didn't say nothing. So please. You was the caregiver. You was the caregiver. How much caregiving did you give for him to pass in your home? Oh, you and your hip-hop shit. Here we go, I'm back. I'm straight outta here, rapper. And I know who I am. I know who I am, I'm Auntie Diamond. You turned his funeral into a stage show. Anybody who knows me knows that his funeral was on YouTube. So anybody who wants to watch it, come watch it. I don't have nothing because you know what, I don't want nothing. How many text messages did I text you? Why don't you be quiet? How many text messages did I text you? You're not the one, you're not the guardian. So why do you think you have money that you never put in for him? I'm the auntie. Oh, you're the auntie. He lives with me. I raised him. Smoking cigarettes. It doesn't matter. You smoke weed at work, right? Not in front of the kids, never. Yes, you do. Never. You smoke weed. You will watch movies in front of the kids and spark up, stop it. You talking about I go in my room.

Stop it.

You're like, this is my home. They all got cigarettes. You know how they say Black people with things in this house? What goes on in this house stays in this house. I'm tired of that. You need to say what goes on in this house, and if it doesn't make you feel comfortable, you need to talk about it. My grandson didn't wanna go to her house 'cause her daughter's a bully. And you know what, I took him to the hairdresser to get his hair cut 'cause he didn't wanna go to her house. Who braided his hair? 'Cause he was dead, dummy.

Let me back up.

How the fuck you gonna say something like that? Who braided his hair? He was dead when you braided his hair. He asked me before he passed if I could braid his hair for school. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. So why wasn't it done? You're lying. So why wasn't it done? Why? Because you said you wanted to do it. And I did it. Yeah.

Krista, I gotta ask you this. Yeah. So I know that she paid for the funeral, correct?

No, she didn't.

So then did you pay for the funeral?

GoFundMe paid for the funeral. No, Davian's GoFundMe paid for it. She didn't pay for nothing. Everything came out of my pocket beforehand. I paid for the shirts that my brothers wore. I paid for the picture that we had at the balloon release. Her friends are boosters. They stole it. No, nobody stole nothing. Friends are boosters.

Do you feel like she pushed you out of the decision-making?

Yes, she did. No, I texted her. He lived with me. That's why I said you are dead to me and you'll stay dead. 'Cause you're a liar.

This is your daughter. This is your daughter.

She's dead to me. You ain't gotta deal with me 'cause I don't deal with you. You're right, after this day you don't have to. I never will. You don't have to. I don't care. Just like you talk about my kids, my Tiontae. Y'all got to Texas, right? I ain't gotta lie to kick it. Please, let me tell you about her kid. My grandson been with me. I sent him over there because you're reaching. She lying again. Ask my son, my son don't wanna get in the middle of it 'cause you're being nasty, 'cause you're being who you are. No, 'cause I told you the bitch that you are.

How much was remaining after everything was said?

Nothing. I paid for the funeral. I paid for the repass. There was about maybe $4,000 left after I got the tombstone. I bought the tombstone for $6,400 and then it was about $2,000 left.

$2,000.

I gave my brother $2,000 and I bought— No, you gave your brother $2,000 before. The funeral was even stopped. I gave my brother increments. You're lying. Which is like $500, Maybe a week later, another $500 the following week. Got it, okay. I gave my mom $500 the day before the funeral. And I told her, I'm gonna give you another $1,500. She told me to shove it up my shit. So that's why we're here. No, it's not why we're here.

As of right now, there is nothing left of the money? Nothing. Nothing at all? It's time to unlock the truth here.

Okay.

My examiners asked, 2 very specific questions. And these 2 questions were to unlock the truth in the situation because outside of the grieving and the hurt and the pain, there's also this money issue, like you said, Duck, that is confusing all of this. So you have questions if she stole money. You wanna know.

She didn't steal it.

But you wanna know.

Yeah, I do.

When these results come back, will you trust them?

I don't trust her with nothing.

The results, the results. Do you trust the results that are coming back?

Here.

Okay, great. That's all I need to hear. All right, so our lie detector examiner asked, did you give extra money to your brother just so your mother wouldn't get as much? Krista Diamond, you said you did not. The truth is— You lied. You're telling the truth.

Thank you.

She didn't give any extra money. Good job.

I thought I was gonna punch you in the mouth. Get out of my face. Thank you. Get out of my face. She's lying.

All right, our lie detector examiner asked, did you purposefully change Davion's last name to spite your mother?

Yeah.

Crystal Diamond, you said you did not. The truth is, Crystal Diamond, you're telling the truth. She didn't do it to spite you.

No, she did not.

She didn't do it to spite you.

We agreed to it together. I didn't agree to that shit, you don't remember? I do remember. If you wanna be angry and aggravated, do that on your own time. The truth is right there, I took the test 3 times. You're a liar. 3 times for the video. You're a liar. You're a liar.

There were also 2 questions our lie detector examiner did not ask because Krista Diamond confessed. Krista Diamond did admit to spending part of the crowdfunding money on herself for the purchase of family portraits. She also admitted to overspending.

$200.

She also admitted to spending.

It's $200, I'll pay it back.

Overspending on. She did also admit to overspending on funeral costs just so that you wouldn't get any of the money.

I know that. I told you, bitch. Okay, now this is why. I'm gonna explain to you guys why. You ain't can't explain shit. You been disrespecting from the day that y'all was gonna be together. Yeah, you always gonna be a disrespectful bitch.

So I wanna be very clear. I wanna be very clear with you because this is super important.

I don't like you.

My producer, we did ask you for all the receipts and you turned over all the receipts and the receipts totaled $37,755.53. No money that was given anywhere. All the costs were for everything around.

I did it out of the kindness of my heart. She paid for my mother's tombstone. Out of the money? Out of the money. That didn't have nothing to do with it. Out of the money, right? Let's keep it 100. So when they asked, did you overspend or did you spend extra? Yes, that's one of the reasons. My grandmother's been dead for 2 years. So what? That's her mother. No, the reason that you're gonna say so what, Her name isn't even engraved on the tombstone. So what I did was, I got a blanket tombstone, I got a blanket with my grandmother's picture on it to put at the place. So I put it down, right? And when everything was paid in full, I went to the place and paid for my grandmother's name and called my mother. I said, Mom, you have to sign the paper for Nana's name to be engraved. She told me, I'm not signing nothing. I have two brothers. When my mother died— My grandma been dead two years. 2 years. Yeah, she been 2. You still ain't put her name down. Excuse me, let me talk. I know you been talking, big mouth bitch. I know. Y'all see what I have to deal with? Let me talk.

I am done.

Yeah, you stay done too.

Okay.

Let me talk. My mother been dead 2 years. I paid for my mother's whole funeral. That was $22,000. I paid for it with her funeral money and I put an extra $3,000 and something in. Of my own money. You getting all the disability from all the kids? You should put inside. What kids? Excuse me, I'm not getting paid. No, no, no, no. You get all the money. My grandson got $61 a month. $61 a month I got for my grandson since he was 8 months old. That's all they gave me was $61. You can ask her.

Money hungry hippo, y'all.

$61 a month.

Crystal, this is the thing.

No, no, but I'm talking about my mother way more.

Yeah, I know, I know, and I heard your point.

I'm gonna stop telling you about that. So when I paid for my mother's funeral, when it was time for her to put her name engraved, I didn't have enough. And they told me it was, she died in December, they told me it was too cold to put the name down. So after a year, I called the family and said, okay, I paid for the whole funeral, I would like y'all to help me put the name down. This trip right here, they give me a dime. Everybody gave me all but $200. My brother didn't send a dime either. So now all of a sudden she get that money.

And she does what she thinks is right.

You know what I had to do? No, what she had to do was give me $200 and I would've got it.

Okay.

You can keep lying there, whatever you want. You can keep that, go on. No, don't.

All right, Crystal, I asked you a very specific question. I asked you if these results came back, would you—

Yeah, but she told a lie. She almost spent the money and everything. No, she didn't. Yes, you did. You said you did.

Or she overspent it on funeral stuff.

Because you was there. You wasn't there. You were supposed to do it with me. No, I wasn't gonna do it. So after you opt out, I opt in. No, I'm not gonna.

But at the end of the day.

I'm not gonna.

No, no, you can't engage.

She's not gonna send me on. She's not gonna send me up behind her, wagging my ass behind her. She's my child.

I'm gonna ask you this, okay? First of all, nothing's gonna bring back your baby.

Nope, it's not about the money. It's about her lying ass. I didn't lie.

You did lie. Money comes and goes and there's no lies. Yep. She has told us, she's given us the receipts.

All of them. All of the receipts. Yes, so what, you crybaby? Get out of my house, I'm gonna punch you in your face. You can. You know me. If you want, I don't care. Exactly. I don't care. I don't care. You don't. You don't scare me, little girl. I never said I did. You try to scare me, that's why we're here. Don't scare me.

Crystal, can I ask you this, Crystal? Crystal, can I ask you this? Would you ever, you've lost your grandson.

Yes, my favorite person. You've lost your grandson. He's always your favorite person. Now all of a sudden you crybaby.

You lost your grandson.

Yeah.

And I know you're in a space of grieving. And I know you've said some horrible things about my daughters. And I mean it.

And I will never take it back. Fuck this bitch. That's what I said.

This is what I would love to do. And I don't want you to answer this question right now. No, because this show, though we've gotten clarification about what has happened with the money, this is—

I figured that.

This is deeper than that. This is years of pain in a relationship that you all have never healed.

I've got a perfect relationship with maybe, you know, Doc and all my other kids.

So let me ask you this, if your daughter would've put the $38,000 in the bank, would you be having these issues?

No.

You would not be having these issues?

No.

You would be fine with her?

No.

You would not be fine with her?

We're not fine because she's disrespectful.

So then what you're doing is you're confirming what I'm saying, that this is not about the money. This is a relationship that has been damaged way from before.

Long time ago.

So what I'm gonna do to you, and you do not have to answer this right now.

Okay.

I'm gonna tell you that until you are able to mend whatever it is inside of you—

It will never happen.

Until you're able to mend whatever it is inside of you, it's going to keep your whole entire family in chaos. It's gonna keep you in chaos.

There's no family left.

So what? So there could be family left.

No, because only thing that's left is my kids and my grandkids.

So let me tell you, that's family. So I'm gonna tell you this. What I'm gonna do for you is now that we've gotten clarity and Krista Diamond has gotten her truth, we know that she didn't lie. She didn't lie. What I wanna do for you is I'm gonna offer you to come back to this show and this show is not gonna be about money. It's not gonna be about y'all figuring this out. I'm gonna give you an opportunity to think about it. If you want to mend your relationship and mend your family.

I don't wanna mend nothing with her. I'm sorry. I don't wanna mend nothing with her. Now the rest of 'em, yes. Her, no.

This is the problem is that losing that child right there should show you how precious life should be. Yeah, losing that child breaks into my heart.

That was my baby. I raised him from 8 months on.

But this little girl right here is also your baby. That little girl right there is also your baby. These are all Sierra babies and they don't deserve that. They don't deserve that. They don't deserve that. They don't deserve that. They don't deserve that.

You don't know Karamo.

They don't deserve that. The lie that she tells. They don't deserve that.

I don't deserve that.

I agree. What I offered you was an opportunity to come back for me to actually help you. I'm gonna let you sit on that. If you would like to come back for that, I'm here for you. If you don't want that, just know that this is the beginning of the end of any family unit you have. You would have, okay? Listen, thank you for being here. I hope you got your answers. And friends, make sure to come back so we can keep talking and growing. I love you all.

You're really mad because they like me. I'm not mad. You insecure about yourself. Who insecure? Mercedes, yes, you are. I look good. I do too. I look good. That's why I get that body I want.

No, no, no. So Mercedes, I gotta ask you, bring that photo back up. Which one are you in this photo?

I'm the devil. You the devil. Right there. And my sister the angel. And basically that's been the dynamic, like not our whole entire life, but once we got older, like high school, like ages 14 to 18. Yeah. It most definitely, the roles was like that. Like I was just a bad child and Alexis was considered like, I guess a good child or whatever. And the reason I say that is because like my mama said out her own mouth, she only hear bad things about me.

Oh, your mother said that?

But if you ask me, outta all my mama's 4 kids, 'cause we had 2 little brothers too, outta all her 4 kids, I'm the one child that got the most achievements, the most accomplishments.

Yeah.

Got a full ride to college and all of that. My sister didn't. Give it up. Thank you. Yes.

I gotta ask you though, so what age did you start feeling like everybody saw you as the devil?

16.

16, okay, 16. And you feel like your mother started seeing you that way as well at 16?

Yeah.

Okay, so why do you believe that Lexi is sleeping with guys you've dated? Because you also said that as well.

It's actually, she believes I've been sleeping with guys she dated.

Oh.

And yes, and the reason she thinks—

So Lexi believes the guy she's talking to that you end up sleeping with them?

Yes. Okay. And that's not true. I would never. So it's about 3 guys and it's like I'll start texting them. Like we'll start off texting and stuff and then I invite them over to the house. They come over to the house and they see Alexis. So they'll tell me like, "How you know her?" And I'm like, "How you know her?" You know? And he'll be like, "Oh, some people say that they slept with her. Some people say that they was talking." But it's 3 guys that I know for sure that's trying to talk to me and they already slept with my sister.

Got it. So you're saying you had no idea that these men had talked to your sister?

No. And they didn't either. The boys, I give them that, they didn't either. But once they did found out, they still tried to talk to me. They still tried, but I deaded it. I don't do that.

Yeah, you deaded it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you want a relationship with your sister?

Yeah.

Yeah. Well, we heard what Mercedes has to say. I think it's time to meet Lexi and hear her side of the story. So everyone please welcome Lexi to the stage. To the show.

Oh, you know you're a liar, Mercedes. You're a liar, you're a liar, you're a liar. Half of that you said was a lie. First of all, they was my man's first. Your ass sent them a picture. They was my man's first, but they were never mine. They were never mine. You sent them a picture of me, say, do you know your sister? Well, listen, it's your boys that was texting me. Alexa, we just here to talk. What you saying is lies. Like, you can see how you act. Like, come on now. What I'm saying is not half of that shit that you said was kind of true, but the, um, part about kind of true about the men's part, baby, they was mad and you stand up. Do you hear you? Do you hear yourself? Wanted me, that's the problem. They never gave me—

They never gave me—

Let's be honest. They never gave me— Let's be honest. On my daughter, y'all ass be mad because they— Let's be honest. Y'all ass be mad because when they ass came to the house, they ass stopped talking to you and was in my face. Yo ass got damn— Yo ass broke the next shit in the room, thought that shit was gonna do something. That's why I really got mad. No. Yes, it was. Yes, it was. Baby, this is funny to me. This is funny to me. It definitely is to me too.

Lexi, this is the thing. Because I hear y'all arguing about men who have no significance in y'all's lives.

Men that I don't want to have a fun time with. She's talking about men that she don't want, but she keep on saying they was mad first. Bitch, they were never mine.

Mercedes, we're not gonna go because we're not gonna go down that pattern again. You both have just admitted that these are men that have no concern in y'all's lives. I understand there's a principle here that you're trying to debate, but that you're debating that principle the wrong way.

Tyce.

That's really what it is. It's not about the men. So look, you're feeling as if your sister doesn't believe you.

That's what this is. Yes, she's not trying to listen to me at all. I'm gonna tell you why I don't believe you. She don't believe some over her blood. I'm gonna tell you why I don't believe you. The same that tried to get in my bed. The same men that you was sleeping with, the same person my mom was talking to, your ass was talking to him.

Let me show you outside. Let me show you outside.

The same my mom was talking to, your ass was talking to. No, the same my mom was talking to, I got kicked out. An old ass man, it's that. Seriously, we take the messages, bro. That's what I'm talking about. That's why I don't like her. I don't like her. You take the messages. I don't like her, bro. Her ass is over here. You mad because you was talking to my— It was really went like that. It, it really went like that. It really went like that. It really went like that. That's how we really broke up, for real. Who? Me and you. You just started making shit about Lexi. You wanna talk about me and you now? Yeah. Which one is it?

Me and you.

Which one is it? Me and you. You're really mad because they like me. I'm not mad. You insecure about yourself. Who insecure? Mercedes, yes, you are. I look good. I do too. I look good. That's why I get everybody I want.

No, no, no.

Let's talk about it. Go for it. Insecure? Bitch, you wish. You is. You said it out your mouth.

So you know what? So what we need—

Oh, well, I was insecure.

You know what I need?

I need Mom.

I need Mom. Yeah, I need Mom right now.

She started all this, let's put it like that. You was talking to her.

Hold on.

And once we found out, that's how many really start. I was talking, she trying to say I was talking to her.

So what I want you to say is—

Bro, do y'all hear this? Bro, do y'all hear this? Bring out Shamika Jones. Bring out her.

Ooh.

I don't wanna fix nothing. I'm done. I don't wanna fix nothing with you. I don't want to talk. Y' all don't want to talk. I want to talk.

Thank you. Nice to meet you. So the reason I bought you. No, no, hold on. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I've had time to hear both of y' all scream. And so the thing is, is that I allowed that for a second because in your screaming, I was hearing truth, and I heard about things that wouldn't even matter. Hold on. Hold on. You wrote this show, and I literally read your And brought you here. So if you trust me, then allow yourself to take a moment, take a deep breath. I know you feel triggered, I know you feel hurt, I know you feel triggered, I know you feel hurt, but right now your mother's involved. So we're gonna get some answers about what's going on right now. So I wanna ask you right now, so I clearly see that this is how the relationship has been for a long time. And I wanna know from your point of view why you think this relationship's been like this.

I feel like it's like that 'cause they both just alike, to be honest. They both hardheaded. They both disrespectful, as you can see, all this cursing in each other face. They used to be okay. When they got in high school, everything went left. She's insecure. She's out. Literally, you are insecure, so don't sit up there and act like you're not, because you are. You are insecure. No, I'm not insecure. You are insecure. I was. You got this on and you don't know it, and you don't think you beautiful? Why you don't feel like you beautiful? I don't think I beautiful. You don't feel like you beautiful? Yes, I do. Your voice while you You talking to me? Okay, 'cause you said, that don't even make sense coming out your mouth. You insecure, you said that to me. I was insecure when I was 14 years old because you kept telling me I was fat. 'Cause I kept telling you you was fat? Yes, so you gonna lie? You were calling me big. Oh, well I'm sorry your ass was fat then, okay? No, I wasn't, I look at the, when I look back, when I look back at the pictures when I was in 4th grade with no sports bra. I wasn't even big. But I thought I was. Change the subject, next. Well, I got something. No, y'all don't make sense. We don't? No, especially you, mother. Well, 'cause I said— So what's the problem, daughter? The problem is, okay, like Alexis said, what man of yours I was sleeping with? She said I was sleeping with at the age of 14. Okay, let me— 14! 14! This is random ass, calm down. This is a man that's older. I swear to God.

So the first thing I'm gonna do is I'm gonna ask you two ladies, go backstage. I'm gonna have y'all come back out in 5 minutes. Iman, come in. Thank you for being here.

Thank you.

So there was one claim that I do need to understand. Your daughter said that she feels like you think that she slept with a friend of yours who's older.

Yes.

Tell me about this.

Your best guess. So I was dealing with this older guy and I don't think she slept with him because I have receipts in a phone that her sister Alexis brought to me. I was laying in my bed and she's like, "Ma, look at this." So she brings me the phone, I'm looking at the phone. He's rubbing her hand, she's asking him for money. But you're 16, right? And I always shielded you, I always protected you. I told you if a man ever come to you and you feel disrespected any kind of way, you know? Because I don't trust men like that. I trust men but to a certain extent. As far as I can see your ass, if this man— I had to bring her father in there because I thought it went somewhere else, you know what I'm saying? 'Cause I was gonna get him locked. I called the police, I made a report, I did everything. So I'm telling her, I say, "What is this?" She like, "Oh, that ain't nothing." What do you mean it's nothing? This man is sitting up here holding your hand, you telling him don't touch you like that. Then you turn around asking him for money and you telling all this to your best friend. The conversation is like 2 days, you know? So all this time, instead of you being my little daughter, you was being a fast little daughter instead of telling me what was going on. 'Cause as you can see, 16, 16, you know right from wrong at the age of 16. So that was wrong. Why you didn't come to me and tell me that this man was rubbing your head?

Let me correct one thing. At 16, as parents, we assume our children know right right from wrong in everything, but they're still children. And the person who was wrong in that story was that older man. And you did everything you're supposed to do as a mom. Let me tell you something. You did, 'cause I wanna make sure I heard it. You did everything you need to do. But the problem where you messed up is by blaming her. And the reason being, and hear me out, hear me out for this. She's 16 and I just did some quick math. You were 16 when you had her?

Alexis.

16.

Yes.

Okay. And so being a teen parent, you know, I was a teen parent.

Yes.

My son from when I was 15. You did the best you could.

Yes.

And you have worked it out.

Yes.

But that little 16-year-old girl, she doesn't know, she's trying to figure it out. She's probably thinking in her mind like, well, if I'm this nice, I can get some. All these things that probably could be going on, hormones, everything.

Yeah.

It doesn't make her behavior correct, but by calling her out her name only is going to isolate her. And make her not, what the conversation should have been is, "I'm so glad your sister told me so I could protect you." I understand. Don't I understand what you've done for them, especially being a teen mother? Yeah. But I'm trying to help you understand that even in that moment right there.

She still needed me.

And she needed the language to change. Yes. Because the language is still continuing right here.

Yes, it is.

And so she's crying. The other daughter's crying. And what's gonna happen is that sooner or later you're gonna lose both of your daughters.

Yeah, I feel like that now though. I know where it come from. We always did everything together. I would never do nothing without my daughters, you understand? They are my best friends, you know? And I just need them to understand that I really just want the best for them.

But you know they're following your lead in this bickering because I did one thing. I let them bicker. And again, I need to baseline. I let them bicker to see to see if mom's gonna come out here and shut it down or continue it. And you started to shut down. I was like, okay, good, this is sister. But then you started going into it, and all of a sudden it seemed like there was 3 sisters on stage and not a mother and 2 daughters.

It gets like that with us, but it shouldn't.

And it shouldn't because you are the mother. Yes. So when they're slinging insults, insults can come out of your mouth.

Exactly.

This is a long journey I got to go on, but the first step is you as mom apologizing for the way you talked about them, for the language you used. Can you do that?

Yes, I can.

Can we bring 'em both back out? We talked about it. Your mom does not believe you slept with this man.

So why would you say that? No, she said slept and that's why I tried to correct y'all. But when y'all two start, I can't get in the midst of it then I turn out all three of us tired.

Why did you say that? Hold on, don't, don't.

Do you know I felt weird with r—. I couldn't tell you, Mom, because you always yell, and I didn't know if you was gonna take it the wrong way, so I didn't tell you. But I felt weird. We all did.

Don't, don't even. Look at me.

I'm your mother, you're my daughter, and I wanna start off by saying that I love you first, and I am so sorry that I hurt you. I am so sorry that I put you out at an early age and I didn't protect you. The way that I do protect you, you know? And I want you to know that there's nothing that I wouldn't do for you, and you know this. And I miss you just as well as you miss me. But, you know, the foul language, the hollering at each other, the disrespect, we gotta stop this. And I just mean we both gotta stop, including your sister too. We both gotta stop. We gotta learn to talk to each other. And I don't wanna take it no more further. I don't wanna prolong this conversation. Conversation or nothing. I just wanna apologize for talking to you disrespectful and not being in your life these past 2 years. That's it. And I love you. Can I get a hug? I love you too. I'm sorry, baby. I really am. Can I be me? Can you show me?

You wanna talk?

We can. Can you turn and look at me? Tie your hands too. Can you come close? 'Cause I feel like you fall apart. We've been apart long enough. I wanna apologize to you. I wanna apologize for cursing at you, being disrespectful, you know? Look at me. And I want you to know that I love you and I love my grandbaby. And you know that's nothing I wouldn't do for y'all. Nothing. I just want, I want our attitude to change. I want to be able to talk to you. I don't want you to be upset because if I'm trying, you need to try.

Lexi, what is it that you want from your mom? What do you need from your mom?

What do you want, Mommy? No, I'm mad because me and my sister always gotta go house to house, bro. We can't never stay with her. And that hurt, that break our bond for real. All three of us, why we not so close? Got it. And I always wanna be close to my sister. You want security. Every time we argue, I always call her and I talk to her and we tell each other we sorry. Alex, how you wanna be close to me when you don't even listen to me? I don't listen to you because— You don't listen to me. You don't believe me. You believe strangers over me and I have nothing to lie about. I said I didn't believe you.

I said I didn't believe you.

There you go. We both don't believe each other. Like, don't raise y'all voice over me. Just talk to each other, please. And that is my fault because I be letting other people get in my ear about my sister. There. Yeah. And I need to stop that.

Did you hear what she just said? Yeah. Good. Listen, what y'all are doing today is, and I told your mama this, this is just first steps. I need y'all to walk off the stage being able to hear each other because there is love there. Your mother loves you. She understands that the language she's been using has been wrong. She also understands that y'all need to be with her. She understands.

Can y'all come closer to me? We've been apart long enough. Hopefully we can get this together. Get up and hug each other and tell each other y'all love each other and y'all forgive each other. It's okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, you too. Hopefully we can live with you 'cause we don't like living with other people.

Mom, is there any way that all y'all can live in the same house? Yes. There is a way.

There is a way. It is a way. I just don't want the disrespect. I don't want to go through arguing. You know, we all ladies. I get it. I understand. A lot of ladies and queens in one house, it's a lot.

You want peace.

I just want respect. I work. It's going to be them.

What you've done now is I've shown you now and given you two tools for you to have that peace. As long as you at peace and you're running this, there's gonna be peace. And this is just the beginning. But I believe all of y'all are about to start hearing each other and getting there. Do you want to get there? Yes. You want to get there? Yes, I do. You want to get there? Yes. That willingness is all it takes. And now you can head on this journey of love. You took the first step since you reached out to me, girl, you got me now. All right? Thank you. All right, I wish y'all the best of luck and I want y'all to remember, don't yell at each other 'cause when y'all do, no one can hear each other and y'all need to hear each other, okay? Girl, tell me, you found your man's car at another woman's place?

Yes.

What happened?

We got in an argument the night before and usually he just ride around maybe an hour and he'll come back, but he stayed out all night. So I started riding. Seen his homeboy and he gave me an address.

So I pull up like, what you wanna do? Where you at?

Where you at? Yeah. So when I get there, I'm calling his phone, he just like cuts it off after I call twice. So I'm like, oh no.

And what time in the morning is this? 'Cause you said he been out all night, so.

Yeah, so it was like 8.

8 in the morning? Yeah. So he really been out all night? All night. Oh yeah, okay.

So I get out, I'm banging on the door, banging on side of the house. You coming outta here today. Yeah. When he finally comes out, he's like, you tripping, you tripping. The police come because they called from inside the house. They never came out, but they was like, I had to leave the premises.

But hold on, why would he say you tripping if you and I are in a relationship, you have not been home all night, your homeboy gives me this address, and you are inside unwilling to come outside? I don't understand how you're tripping. It's a man for you. Okay, okay. So did you know whose house it was? Not at that time. Not at that time. But do you know whose house it is now? Yeah.

Okay. I did my research. You did research?

And my producer said you saw a number calling his phone repeatedly a few days after. Whose was that? Well, I reversed the number.

Yeah. Sort of pull up the name. And when I asked him, he say it's his niece. But when we around her, like she's sketchy. Wanna whisper in his ear, pull him to the side and stuff like that. So I'm like, now 5 years, I never seen you till recently. Yeah. Which his sister say, oh yeah, that's his niece, but we're not doing that.

So it's his sister's child?

No, it's his uncle's child, but he passed away. So she was like one of the outside children. Okay, got it, got it.

So my producer say you know that number by heart? Sure do, 2-5- "It sure did." Oh yeah, that's embedded in your head. So you recorded him in the car, what happened?

I played detective, you know, and threw the phone inside the speaker in the car. So I was like, "Mm-hmm." And then when I came back, I played it and he was like, "I'm coming to see you later." Oh, got it.

So I need that phone on lock. Yeah, did you ever, okay, don't worry, that's what we do here. Did you ever show him the video?

Yeah, he heard it. And he heard it. And he won't say nothing.

Like, it just— So he even saw the proof you had. The proof. Of him speaking when you got out the car. Yeah. And still is denying it. Still deny it. Have the two of you talked about breaking up? We have.

We actually took a break 2 years ago and I went to Virginia and so I started doing my own thing. Once he got wind that I was doing my own thing, it was like, I'm coming to where you at.

And how long y'all been together now? 5 years. 5 years. 2 kids. 2 kids. And what made you— Those babies are adorable. Thank you. Oh my gosh. And they got your face. They are so cute. Thank you. They are so adorable. Oh my gosh. If that was on a grocery store ad, I'm buying that product. Like, whatever. This is so cute. So my producers told me he told you he's only with you because of your kids.

Yeah, that was like the main reason. But it's just like 5 years, it should be more than just the kids.

And when did he say that?

Like anytime you ask him.

Anytime he says he's only with you for the kids? Yeah. Okay. And how does that make you feel when he says that?

Hurt and confused 'cause it's just like, Why?

Yeah. Well, I think it's time to hear Timmy's side of the story. So everyone, let's meet Timmy. How you doing, Timmy? What's up? Nice to meet you, sir. How you doing? Good. Thank you for being here. Yeah. All right, sir. So can you explain the situation with the girl whose house you were at? It was my niece and some friends. Party. It was a party.

None of that never happened what she said.

Nothing. She delusional. Okay, so she said you left the house after an argument and then you went there and stayed till 8 o'clock in the morning. So that did not happen? Yeah, it was a party. So you didn't get into an argument, you just said, I'm going to a party. Well, we got into an argument, but the party was going on already. Okay then. So I went to the party. So you went to the party. If she said, I called your phone, why didn't you just pick up and say, hey, Hey, I'm over here, I'm sleeping, you know, I'll see you when I see you. Well, actually my phone went dead. Okay. When she got the address from your friend, why not answer the door and say, hey, listen, I'm just here. I don't wanna argue again. We can talk about this later, but I'm safe. One reason, she was already acting crazy. Okay. On some delusional stuff. Okay. So then when I see her beating on my car, I gotta come outside 'cause she beating my car. Oh, you was beating on the car? You said you was beating on the door. I was beating on the door. She was beating on my car. Beating on my car, took the tags off, stuck 'em in her truck. So I said, I gotta go outside and do something. Got it. So that's when you called the police. So did she do any damage to your car? She beat the trunk up. Got it, got it, got it, got it. Why you laughing?

It's 'cause it's real. It's just like a man love his car, so I'm gonna hit you where it hurt, you hit me where I hurt, so.

Okay, so Timmy, tell us about the argument that you had when Zionna moved to Virginia. When she moved to Virginia, it was like she got this job working at the store, so I was like, okay, cool. So I'm keeping the baby, she got a job at the store, so all of a sudden come up to where they said, they don't want you back at the store, you banned from the store. Dude, what? They don't even know me. So in my perspective, she talking to somebody else. She was. Were you talking to somebody?

Yes. I was because he was in Maryland with another woman, so.

And you were in Maryland with another woman? It's pretty much, but she was telling me. You can't breeze over that. You said earlier when I said you went on a break, you're like, not to me. So I'm assuming in my mind that that means you at home doing your thing faithfully. But you were with another woman. She was a friend. She was a good friend. It wasn't like it was nothing going on. In her mind, it was something going on.

It was. I mean, if you're living with another woman, then yeah.

It was in your mind too. It was in your mind too, 'cause it was going on.

In her mind, it was something going on. So I mean, you can't have your cake and eat it too. So I was just—

So do you believe she's still in contact with that man? Yeah, pretty much. But I'm not. And does that bother you? Yeah. Are you still contacting that woman? No. At all? Don't be lying. No. Don't lie. Is there an age difference between y'all? Let me see this. 28 years. 28 years. Yeah. 28 years. So what do you want to say to him that you wanted him to know before we even get to these unlock the phone?

That I love you. But if it's something in your phone, I know, you too.

So I got a question for you, I'm just gonna be real. If you've heard him on a videotape you got, he's told you he was talking to somebody, you banged on another person's door, why now would you be done if we find something in the phone?

Just because, like, you could've told me this at home before we came. Here, you know, before we got on, you know, TV.

TV. Yeah. So TV would be the catalyst to make you wanna leave? Like that would be the—

'Cause that's like number one embarrassment.

Delusion. Delusion. Okay. Well, Timmy, you want to know, 'cause we're unlocking your phone as well. Timmy, you want to know if Zionna spent her birthday with her family, if Zionna has been texting a man by the name of [MASKED], and if Zionna has— He was [MASKED]. And if Ziana has been sending explicit photos to any other man and if Ziana has been using any dating apps to hook up with other men. Those are your concerns? Pretty much. Okay, well I think it's time to unlock the phone. All right, Ziana, we unlocked your phone. All right, you ready? Yeah. All right, Timmy, you wanna know if Ziana spent her birthday with her family. Ziana says she spent her birthday at her brother's house. My unlock the phone investigator searched her GPS and found that Ziana is telling the truth. Timmy, you wanna know if Ziana has been texting a man by the name of [MASKED]. She says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her texts and found that Ziana is telling the truth. Timmy, you wanna know if Ziana has been sending explicit photos to any other men. She says she has not. My locked-up phone investigator searched her photos, both recent and any deleted, and found that Ziana is telling the truth.

That's it, that's it.

We got one more. Oh, okay. Timmy, you wanna know if Ziana has been using any dating apps to hook up with other men. She says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her apps and found that Zi'anna is telling the truth.

That's good. Here you go. Okay, there you go. That's good. That's good. That's a plus.

She's not doing anything. How do you feel? I'm good with that. I'm good with that. You're good with that? But I told you.

Why you don't believe it? I'm good with that.

So why didn't you believe her before? Why didn't I believe her before? Because she delusional. She still gonna be delusional. Before it's sneaky, now she just delusional, but okay.

That don't make sense.

Still delusional and sneaky. But she's not doing anything. We've just confirmed that. We went through. That's a good thing. So that argument doesn't work anymore. She's no longer sneaky. We know that one. We know that one. I understand you're calling her delusional because you're saying that you're not doing anything, so she's making stuff up, right? So we know she's not sneaky. Well, let's unlock, unlock your phone and find out she's delusional. Timmy, we unlocked your phone. All right, Zionna, you wanna know if Timmy has been on any dating apps. Timmy says he's not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched his apps and found that Timmy is telling the truth.

Good day, everyone.

Zionna, you wanna know if Timmy has been communicating 2 specific numbers. Timmy says he has not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his phone and found that Timmy is not telling the truth. He's had 6 canceled calls with the 25 number that you want to know. These are all the call logs from it. He deleted the entire thread messages between the 2 of them. That name, that number is also labeled as in his phone to not show the name so that way if it popped up, it's under a different name. And my investigator said he has deleted her contact off of Facebook as of recently. What you gotta say? Why you gotta label on the shit if there's nothing to hide? Because— 'Cause that seems a little delusional and sneaky. 'Cause that's not her name. Well, that's what they put it under there for. So she saved the number. Pretty much. So why wouldn't you just change it back?

I don't even know the number.

Mm-hmm. Okay. For real. If she was there, she would've known. Why did you delete all the messages? Why did I delete all the messages? Because she was gonna make a big deal about it. But if there's nothing to hide, then there would be nothing to make a big deal out of.

Exactly. I don't get that. I really don't.

She was gonna make a big deal about it. So you're saying this is your niece? Yes. Oh, interesting. Interesting. Okay. So you'd have to label your niece under a new number?

And also delete the messages. Not her name.

But see, actually, I don't think it was her phone. I think it was like a friend phone. You feel what I'm saying? So you sure this is just not a side piece that you're calling underneath? No, no. Are you sure? Yeah, positive. Yeah, okay. Zionna, you wanna know if Timmy has any explicit photos of other women on his phone. Timmy says he does not. My Unlock the Phone investigator, searched his photos and found that Timmy is not telling the truth. He has 39 saved photos of other women on his phone. Can I see the evidence bag please? That's crazy. All right. So this is the main girl that you texting with. That's your niece? That's my niece. This how you and your niece talk? This type of photo you got from your niece? That's her Facebook page. Okay. I just don't, my niece wouldn't have nothing in my phone like that. Yeah, that's her Facebook page. Okay. This a niece too? That's a niece? I don't even know where them came from. This a niece? 'Cause if that's your niece bent over like that, that's a problem. This your niece? That's Grace. This your niece? Any of these your nieces? Uh-huh. Any? Oh no, we don't. Okay, okay, okay, okay. So let's, let's, let's figure this out. So you don't want to be with this woman. She, she's younger than you. You don't want to be with her. You had children with her. Why you playing with her? Why you don't just say, hey, let's break this off? You tell her every Every day, so you're just breaking down her self-esteem, telling her, "I don't wanna be with you. I'm only staying with you for the kids." So why don't you just man up and say, "Listen, let's end this." What type of control are you getting over this? What is this? What type of power? There's something here that's making you do this. Those pictures. No, that wasn't my question. My question is, you have repeatedly told the mother of your children that you do not wanna be with her, that you are only with her for the kids. You have completely told her that you are not doing anything and we have found that you are still in contact with someone. There's photos on your phone. My question is, what are you gaining by doing this to your children's mother? I love my children. And I wanna know, what do you think your children will think about you when one day they watch this show and they see that you spent years deliberately hurting their mother? I ain't trying to hurt 'em. But you are, but you are. So my question is, why are you doing this? I ain't trying to hurt her, man. I love her. But you are. And when you deliberately hurt somebody, that does not equate to love. So my question again is, why are you staying with her? Because I love her. You know what I'm saying? She's the mama of my kids. So you love your children. I have no doubt about that. But you do not love this woman. Yeah, I love her. Okay, so you do not love this woman. And if you think you love this woman, maybe your definition of love is skewed because love does not do these actions. Love does not include these actions. Love does not include these actions, brother. I'm sorry to tell you, love does not include any of the sneakiness or the things that you have done. That is deceit. That is not love. You got anything to say to him? We good. You good?

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And my producers also just told me that you have 5 other kids with 2 other women. So you do know, you do know that you don't have to stay because of kids. So again, there's a power dynamic or something going on here. Of why you're staying here. And you gotta check with yourself for why that is. But luckily she's now woken up and hopefully you're very woke now. Very woke. Good. Yeah. You're 25? Yeah. You have a beautiful life ahead of you and there is a man that is going to give you the love you deserve. There is a man out there who can give you that love. There is. I hope she find him. Did you hear what he just said?

If she find, if it's one out there gonna give it to her, the sun gonna come up tomorrow.

I'm gonna tell you this, even though you said that outta defensiveness, that was actually the kindest thing you could have said to her. Because what he just let you know is I'm not the man, but there is one out there and the sun will shine for you tomorrow. He out there. All right, I wish y'all both the best of luck. I wish y'all best of luck on co-parenting, and thank you for being here, okay? Yeah, you're welcome. Stay with us, friends. We'll be right back with more.

I really don't think baby Christina is my son's daughter. There is no connection. The child always screaming when I pick her up, like I did something to her, like I hurt her or something. Something. I mean, she's pushing my face and she don't even want to look me in the eye or nothing. She's turning her whole body like this. No baby ain't supposed to act like that towards their grandmother. I don't get it. Diamond does not deserve to be in a relationship with my son. He can do a whole lot better than her. I can't really say she's a hoe. I never seen her out on the corner, but, uh, I can tell you this much. She's lazy. You don't want me to say the word. You can't change an HO to a housewife. My son called me and told me that she took his child to another man's house, her other baby daddy. Huh. Now what kind of mama would take another man's child to another man's house? My question is, is you telling him he's her daddy? Bitch, I really don't think that's his baby. Mama ain't raise no damn fool. I ain't about to let him sit there and play no lollipop and sucker all these years, just go on taking care of her and her 4 children when allegedly one is supposed to be his. Please. My son Chris, Is a good kid. That's my job, to protect him. And that's what I'm gonna do. So, Ms. Diamond, you better have your shit together.

Oh, she had a lot to say. Okay, listen, I got some questions for Marianne.

So I'd like to go ahead and bring her on out.

Everyone, please welcome Marianne to the show.

How are you, Marianne?

You look beautiful.

Thank you. Absolutely.

Nice to meet you. You too. MaryAnn, come on. How you look so gorgeous and got that mouth? You know what I'm saying? Why do you think that Christina acts differently around you?

You know what? I would like to know why she act differently around me. Miss thang, I mean. Not miss thang. Yes. Ms. Thang should really dig harder into who her baby daddy is because my grandkids, they love me. All my grandkids, we look alike. We all look just alike. We got the high cheekbones. Now my son was born with a big old head, okay? When I say big, I mean it's like a big mountain on the back of his head, okay? So all his kids was born with that mounting on the back of their heads. Down to the females. And it's kind of sad when the females have the big head too. But they do. Yeah. But this baby, no big head. The head is not— that rock is not there.

So let me be clear, because they're still together, right? Unfortunately. Unfortunately. But that means that you're calling your son's girlfriend a hoe.

Listen, I wrote the book on hoes, okay? Okay.

Tell me about chapter 1.

What's in this book you wrote, okay? Let me tell you something, okay? There's a saying, okay? Be a cook in the kitchen, a lady in the street. You can't show your thighs to every guy you meet. OK.

OK. OK. OK. All right. I think we all just learned chapter 1 and 2 and 3, OK? Thanks to this brother right here. You got me. Well, listen, I think it's time to talk to Diamond and get her side of the story. So everyone, please welcome Diamond to the show. Hi, Diamond. Thank you for being here.

Thank you. First and foremost, what just confuses me about this whole situation right here, to hear her talk all this nonsense back there. First and foremost, I don't have any brothers. My sister's relationships that they've been in, I called them my brothers, for one. For two, never left the house for no 3 days to go get no bread and never came back. That's for two. And for three, this is the problem now. He's a mama's boy. You stay in everybody's business. I don't lay down with her. I don't stay with her. I have my own crib. I stay in my own apartment. Why are you always into our situation? And for Chris to be calling his mother trying to make it seem like I'm just out here just being this hoe. Dang, I'm so confused. Where this hoe at? Right there, boo. Where's this hoe?

So what are you hoping will happen with these results today? What do you want to happen?

I want resolution. I want, I mean, I just want a peace of mind. And if it ain't my son, all hell gonna break loose on this stage. Security! Listen, okay? Okay. First of all, the reason why it's my business, because it's my son. Okay. Okay? This is why your son not gonna have a relationship. It's because of you. This is exactly why. He's not, well, that'll be the best thing that ever happened to him. Yes.

So Diamond, are you telling me that this interaction between Marianne is doing is affecting your relationship with Chris?

Yes, it is. In what ways? Because like me and Chris could be sitting there in the crib, we'll be, first of all, I cook all the time 'cause Chris does not know how to cook. Okay. That's something his mother should have taught her. But yeah, so anyways, we could be in there. Well, your mama should have taught you how to be a lady in the street. Oh, I don't be in the street. Streets. That's for one. For two, we could be in there laying down, chilling or whatever, watching a movie, whatever the case may be. Here come the mother calling, let me tell you about this, son, let me tell you this. And Chris will be sitting on the phone for hours. They talk about nothing. They talk about coffee, what type of ground of coffee she like to drink. What is that? So we gotta stop. No, no, no, you always on your cell phone. Actually not text another man. Okay, after your son done cheated first. Okay, didn't my son video talking to your baby daddy. I think that baby daddy is the father of Christine. That's not a problem. That's not a problem that I can't talk to my other child's father.

Hold on, so you're saying that Chris cheated first?

Yes, Chris did. Oh my gosh.

Did you know that?

That's why I started texting somebody. Yeah, I started texting somebody, but I never met up with this person. I never had sex with this person. It was just conversation. That's all.

There's somebody else that is involved in this. Like you said, your child's father, and I think I'm ready to meet Chris. If I'm the grandmother. Hear what Chris has to say about all of this. So everyone, please welcome Chris to the show. Chris, nice to meet you, man.

How you doing, man?

I'm good. So do you feel like your mother has overstepped her boundaries in this?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.

Diamond said that you intentionally trapped her with this baby. Did you? You didn't?

Yeah, I intentionally trapped you? You didn't? When did you feel trapped, before or after I was buying the kids clothes. Or before or after he paid you to screw you?

Do you have evidence of Diamond cheating?

Yeah, yeah, physically cheating. That I met up and I just had sex? I'm this big-ass hoe? What is it?

What is the evidence you have that is her being unfaithful? Well, first of all, conversation.

Uh, her son said we spent the night at Daddy house 2 days. That don't mean I had sex after his birthday. That don't mean I had sex with him the day on his birthday. But if you felt like I had sex I asked somebody that same exact day, what you did, Chris, when I came home? What you do?

I wanna go ahead and take a look at it. But I got text messages though. I wanna take a look at what you found in Diamond's phone. These are the DMs that you found in her phone? Sure is. I bet you won't send me no pics. But you have. For that pretty thing, when I come up, I'll see you, I'm gonna blank, give you some of this.

The whole shebang.

You always been playing, hope you really coming. You talking about. Okay, hold on. So basically, hold on. So you, but you sent this to another man saying that?

Yeah, it was just conversation.

He lives all, But now the conversation, talking about you gonna send me a. We gonna have sex.

And I never sent no pictures. Show me a picture.

Okay. Oh, okay. When was this? How long? That was in April. And so you found these texts in her phone. Chris, Right. Yeah.

Okay. Asking how far she had it. She told me she cheated. She told me she cheated on him before and that she was sorry. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You said you broke up with two baby daddy. Chris broke up with me. And I came and I told Chris myself that I slept with my baby father that time, didn't I? Chris don't lie.

Oh, so hold on. I gotta back up because earlier. Earlier when we talked. Hold on. Earlier when we talked about. behavior, you said, yes, I go to my baby father's house because we're just friends.

No, but this is way, this is before when I was staying with my sister.

But you said that they was just friends, but prior to that you had a relationship while y'all—

Oh yeah, that's my son's father.

But you slept with him? Yeah. Okay, okay. But do you understand how that can cause trust issues? Yeah, that can. Okay then. Chris, you sent a picture of you and her best friend?

Chris sent that to me of him in a hotel with my best friend after he got done screwing her and they took a picture and sent it to me.

Okay, so let me back up. So Diamond, you're telling me that you brought proof here of Chris sleeping with your best friend?

Yeah, he took that picture and he sent it to me. He said 'cause I was a disrespectful hoe, that's what he went and did. What? But I never did anything. After this, that's when I started talking to the boy.

Chris, so you slept with her best friend?

It wasn't even like that. It wasn't like that.

This say 4:55 AM.

I mean, it happened, but it didn't happen like that, you know?

So did you sleep with her best friend?

Yes or no? Yes. Yeah, yeah.

And then you sent your child's mother a photo saying you disrespectful.

And that's what he did. I mean, technically that's my ex-girlfriend.

Okay, are you still communicating? Are you still communicating with her?

I don't communicate with her. I don't, me and her, it's just, it's like a hi and bye.

So how many times in this relationship have you cheated? And how many times have you cheated?

Oh, Chris was cheating since we got together 'cause his baby mother still stayed downstairs from me. He was downstairs with her almost every day, wasn't you?

So you're both, 'cause I see on here, y'all are both 27 years old.

No, Chris is like 38. I'm 27. Okay. She's 27.

Chris, how you acting, you 38, almost 40, and you got you doing this?

She knew I was a polygamist when she got with me.

Okay, okay, listen, it's one thing about that, but At almost 40, as 40-year-old to almost 40-year-old, how you sending photos like that? Like that's the stuff we did when we in our 20s and 30s. Thank you. Listen, we have the DNA truth right here in this envelope. Maryann, you are questioning if this is your grandchild. So this is your truth to open. So let's find out.

Yes, better open it. Is there anything you wanna say? Yup, she gonna apologize to me and my child, soon as that proves that Chris, you are the father. Listen, honey. Go on ahead. I already know I'm the father. Go on ahead. What's gonna happen is you gonna walk off this stage screaming and crying like a baby. Go ahead, open it up. Go ahead, girly. You brought this on yourself. Open it up. What's taking you so long? The things that you've done to my son. You are the laziest woman I ever seen.

You run the streets all the time. Marianne, let's find out because that's gonna be the thing that's going to give you the clarity. Yeah. Because this is really what you wanna know because if this is not your grandchild, you don't have to deal with her ever again. Exactly. But if this is your grandchild, then we have some work to do.

You gonna see me forever.

If it is. You ready for this? This is your truth to open. Are you ready?

Not really. I'm waiting to hear.

She don't look like my—

Can you just open it up? She really don't.

I know. What does it say, Maryann?

I don't have— What it say, Ma? What it say? What it say? Open it up, Chris. Oh, oh, my fault.

In the case of Christina, Maryann, you are the grandmother.

Oh, hallelujah! Hallelujah! Like I said. No, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry, baby. I'm so sorry. Well, now that we got that out the way. We gonna work on this. We gotta work on this. Oh my God, I'm so embarrassed. I am so embarrassed.

Okay, yeah. Okay, so you got your results? Yeah. Okay, I just heard what you said. So you said we gotta work on this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ain't no working on it. You put us through too much. Exactly.

This drama with this DNA. So now you got the results. Like you said, you gonna take your baby shopping. I want you to take your grandbaby shopping.

Well, Marianne, hold on. Well, Marianne, the question is Marianne was already being a grandmother. That wasn't the question here.

She better come see my baby.

But she, okay.

When the last time she had her? When I watch her, what she do? Scream. That's not her problem.

We gotta back up. Because now that you have your results, now you understand the situation. Is your grandchild. You do understand how— 'Cause I'm not doing this anymore. How the way that you've treated your grandchild and treated your grandchild's mother has been affecting. Is there anything that you wanna say about that? Because I get it, you got a mouth on you, you feisty, I understand this isn't your personality. But what I can also tell is that there's a loving woman in there. There's a woman in there that understands the value of being in a child's life, that understands, 'cause you raised a son, that you've been there, you understand the importance of family. And now your family is torn apart because It's a lot of your behavior. It is. So is there anything you wanna say to Diamond?

Diamond, I'm sorry. I really am, truly from my heart. I really, I do love you. I don't like you, but I love you. I don't like you either. I don't like you either, but— I do love you. I've always loved you, but I've never liked you, okay? And there's a big difference. You can love a person, but you don't necessarily have to like that person.

See, but see, but so this is what I wanted y'all to both understand. The moment where there could be growth and start healing, anytime you put a caveat of like, "I love you, but I don't like you," all you're doing is putting yourself backwards. We understand that there has been tension here. We understand that there have been words said on both parties. We understand there's been disrespect. Of course, there's gonna take time for you all to like each other, but that's not a necessary thing to say here. No.

Listen, sometimes, We as parents, and when we become grandparents, we do everything we can to protect our children. I have 3 children in the cemetery, okay? I buried 3 kids, you understand? This is my beloved son, all right? He's been here for me. We all we got. Okay, okay, okay, pause. All right, so.

We're gonna pause, but before you say that, the reason she's having these type of dialogues about, first of all, thank you for sharing that about your other kids because it makes me understand more of why this protective behavior is here because you've lost children and so therefore now, and I can't imagine what that's like, now you're always gonna hold on. But what happened, what you did, and this is unfortunate, yes, you have a close relationship with your mother, but one thing as grown men we gotta understand is you have to understand the boundaries of what you share and what you don't share. You don't share. Because the minute you let your mother into your relationship, of course she's gonna have this reaction. That is your direct fault. You started telling your mother the issues y'all were having, you're arguing. I'm sure you got a friend, a colleague, somebody your own age that you could talk to. Because you have to understand, just because you move on and then you still wanna lay up, that doesn't mean she gonna move on. That's it. That's correct. This is what I'm gonna recommend to y'all. First of all, I appreciate your vulnerability. And I appreciate, can you make a commitment to stop disrespecting her? Absolutely. You can make that commitment? I'm sorry. You can make that commitment? Yes. Now you as a woman, can you make the commitment to not go tit for tat as well?

Yes, I can. You can make the commitment?

Yes, absolutely. Because especially you two, your relationship and what this little girl's gonna see is so important. Yeah. So you two making that commitment. Now I'm gonna ask for right now, can you stop playing games? Stop doing these things?

I been stopped doing those things. Okay.

At the end of the day, this has to be a good co-parent situation. 'Cause there's a baby that needs both of y'all that needs to be in a healthy relationship. And I believe you are a good father.

Oh, he's a phenomenal dad.

I believe it. I believe it. I know it.

To all 4 of my kids.

I know it. I know it. So thank y'all for being here. I appreciate y'all. You got your answers. I wish y'all the best of luck with co-parenting. I wish you the best of luck with the grandkids. And please take my advice. All right? I am. What was the inappropriate question that your alleged father asked you?

Well, I was around 20. My late 20s, he asked me to have a threesome with him and a woman. Oh my gosh. That he was messing with. We was on drugs at the time and a little intoxicated, but I went through with it, but I felt uncomfortable and I just gave up. I couldn't do it, you know? And that's about all I remember from that.

Oh my gosh. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I understand that drugs and things were at play, but that must, have been the hardest moment even after you've gotten sober to deal with. Yeah. So you did go through that threesome?

I started out with it, but I didn't go through with it. Got it.

How long have you considered Mel to be your father? All my life.

That's all I knew.

All your life? And how has Mel been as a father?

Oh, he just in and out my life. You know, he come like once a year. Just pop up outta nowhere into my life.

Yeah, yeah. Have you ever told anybody, told anyone that he had asked you for that threesome?

I told my mom, but she hardly listened to me. Okay, she didn't listen to you.

What did she say when you told her?

Well, you know, she believed it because she hate him so much, you know? So she like, I told you that wasn't your daddy.

Got it, got it, got it. So that only confirmed for her that like this man is not your father.

Well, all my life she been telling me this man's my father. He's my father. She just said that he's not my father like 10 years ago. She started saying, "That's not your father.

I know who your father is." Got it. Okay then. Has your mother tried to stop you from seeing Mel?

All the time. Yeah. Every time I call him or he'll call me, she always be like, "Kiki, that's not your daddy. You need to stop talking to that punk. He's not your daddy." Well, why would you keep telling me that man is my daddy all my life?

Yeah. And he don't set the picture up.

Yeah, not 'cause you mad at him. He's not my father. It just don't make sense.

Got it. How's all this affected you?

It affected me terribly. I just can't function sometimes. I done got on drugs even more. I just, I'm a person, I just, I don't know, I just stay to myself. Like, I don't feel comfortable talking about it. I just feel like nobody don't care. Yeah. So that's why I'm really here to find out this man's name.

I don't know about that. Yeah, yeah. Well, I will tell you this. I'm glad that you came here because I do care. And I'm thankful that you felt safe enough to talk to me and talk to my producers because we do want to give you the answers. We want to make sure you feel seen and we want to make sure you walk away here a little bit better than you found you. Well, I think it's time to hear what Mel has to say about all this. So please welcome your alleged father, Mel, to the show. Can you come take a seat for me? Thank you for being here, man. Yes, sir. How does it make you feel about what was just said? I was hurt. I'm just hurting for all she done been through, and I just thank God for this day that she get a chance to see the real deal here. Do you believe that you're her father? Yes. Not 50%, 100%. You're 100%? 100% sure. So if you're 100% sure, why did you ask your daughter for a threesome? I asked my daughter for a threesome?

Hmm? A little while back when we was in the trailer and we was intoxicated, Eddie.

We was high drunk.

Back then, we was getting drunk and getting high, everything. It was like we started out, but we never went through with it.

It's something I don't know about.

You don't remember?

I don't remember that. Okay. So the drugs and addiction for you just blanked out your mind. How many years were you two using together?

We really didn't use together like that in years. I was the one using. I came around my dad and I think I pushed it on him. Got it. Okay. 'Cause I was out there, I was intoxicated, I was in a strip club. Okay. Intoxicated in a strip club. I was out there.

So how much? How many times during that time did you two use together?

We only did it like once or twice.

Once or twice. Okay, and that once or twice is with that thing that you remember?

Yeah, it was just that one time.

Okay, hearing your daughter tell you that or your potential daughter tell you that now, what does it make you feel?

That's what even, that's what made me have my daughter.

I feel like that's something her mother probably put in her mind. Say, I don't, ain't no way in the world.

It shocked me. I'm glad not hear somebody. I was intoxicated that day. I had just left the club.

You just don't wanna make it bad for your mama, what she puttin' herself through.

Daddy, it's something that didn't happen. Never, never, never. She never went through with it, so what? Why would you still deal with me then? I wanna know, Daddy.

Do you think that you're a good father to her?

I know I'm good.

11 children, I ain't got no problem with none of my kids. Okay. Well, Cheryl's mother Dorothy is here today. She couldn't fly in to be with us today. She's joining us via remote. Please welcome her to the show. Dorothy, I thank you for being here. I see that you're emotional. What's making you emotional?

Well, number one, my daughter is in my heart right now. And the man that's sitting next to her, he one of the biggest liars on earth.

So why are you saying that Mel isn't Cheryl's father? Because he can't make kids.

He don't have no children.

Why can't he make kids from your point of view?

Okay, when he was a little boy, he lived in New York. His mother used to make lye a lot. And he came in one day—

Is that the cleaning stuff? You talking about the cleaning stuff?

Lye, you know, your makeup lye? Oh yeah.

You making up lies.

It was sitting on the step and he got it. He thought it was water. He drunk it. And when he found out it wasn't water, They rushed him to the hospital up in New York. He was there for 4 months to keep him alive. He got cat guts right now sitting on that chair.

Is this true? Is this true? No. You went to a hospital and you're saying that the hospital gave him, instead of getting a transplant with human organs, they gave him cat organs is what you're saying?

Right. I just wanna be clear. That's what she suggests.

Can't give no kids. Mel, your son Howard is in the audience. Yes. So everyone please welcome him. Welcome, how do you feel? I can't have no kids. So I'm trying to ask you, how do you feel about what was just said? I can't have no kids, the shit gonna tell. How do you feel about what has been said on the stage? Standing here today, I heard a lot that I really didn't know about. Sister, I wanna say I'm sorry for everything that you have been through. I didn't know half of this, but on my test, I'm 100% sure that my dad is my dad. I look just like him. So you don't have any doubts about him being your father? Because I wanna let everybody at home know, not only are we here testing you, Cheryl, we've also tested you as well, Howard, because of the fact that Dorothy makes claims that he can't have any kids. And since you've been told that as well, that he can't have any kids, to give everyone clarity, we've tested you as well. What happened when you were 8 years old?

8 years old, we was— Tell it.

I had to stay with Miss Dot, and she told me, she said, "I wanna talk to you." And when she talked to me, she told me that he was not my father, that he cannot have me. You're my dad, go ahead. And his brother is my dad. At 8 years old you were told that? Yes, sir. You know, Howard, I actually want you to come down here and come on stage. Yep. Told my other daughter that too.

—his dad. His brother is his dad. I love you. I'm sorry for everything.

Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Jesus. Um, thank you, sir. I'm going to ask you, before I get to this question for you, Dorothy, um, how does that make you feel seeing that your brother does hear you and see you? He love—

it make me feel good that he's 'cause he even making a step with me. Whatever it is, he's still my brother.

Yeah. Whatever. Praise God. Thank you, Jesus. Howard, so Dorothy is not your mother, correct? No. Yeah. Okay. Well, I think before we can get to any other healing, we still need to get these first answers. And I think it's important for us to, let's start with you, Howard, to see to see if, as Dorothy has claimed, if Mel is your father or not. Howard, in this envelope is the DNA truth. This is your truth to open, not mine. So I'll give that to you.

Oh, do the honors, bro. Thank you. 'Cause I love you. I love you too. And today we gonna find out the truth.

Yes, we are. Thank the Jews. You ready?

Guess. Howard, Mel is your biological— Hallelujah! Come to the light! Come to the light! You big liar! This is the day we cleave my father.

Thank you, Father. That's not true. Big You hurt me all these many years, but the truth gonna come out. Dorothy. God said what go in the dark gonna come to light. So Dorothy, we do know that you said that, you did say that Mel cannot have any children. You said that he was not able because of something that happened as a child. We now know, Dorothy, that Mel can have children. That's impossible. Well, it's not impossible anymore. So I think now you have to understand.— that it is possible and it is the truth. This is his child. They gonna show everybody. She a big liar. So I'm gonna ask you, Dorothy, before we go any further, is there anything that you wanna say to Howard? Because from his perspective at 8 years old, you told him that that was not his father. She a big liar. Well, that's what his mother said. You gotta doubt in your head.

I'm going by what his mother told me.

That's a big liar. Cheryl, though his mother's not here, and rest in peace, I want to make sure that you who are living and knowing that you did take a hand in this, do you want to give an apology for burdening him with that? He just said that he spent his life thinking that was the truth. I don't. Okay. She didn't want to apologize. All right, she said she does not want to apologize. Okay, so in this envelope here, Cheryl, is your DNA truth. You were told some of your life that this is your father. Then you were told other parts that this is not your father. So here you go. This is your truth to open now.

Can I say something for you, dude? Can I say something too?

Of course you can.

Mama, it's all about this test right now. You ready? This test, if I open this test up and this man my father, I'm gonna be really pissed at you, Mom. I'm gonna be really pissed at you. That's right. Cheryl Mill is your biological mother. That can't be possible. I love you, Daddy. I love you. From this moment on, Mama, you cannot— Oh, Lord Jesus. This is something you got to accept, Mom. Thank you, Jesus. I love you, but this is something you gotta accept. I don't know how many minutes you have. Oh, Jesus. I'm gonna retest that.

Oh my God, look at it. Oh my, no, no. So Dorothy, Dorothy, at this pace here, your only response is you wanna retest? No, but accept, but that's all she is. Dorothy, do you feel like you owe your daughter an apology? Oh my God.

I may owe her an apology, but you gonna have it tested. I'm gonna have her test again. That can't be possible.

Dorothy, I wanna ask you a question. Why would you wanna put Cheryl through another test when she's been confirmed? Why can't you accept this and apologize to your daughter for the lies that you've said to her?

She can feel it.

It wasn't lies. Well, Cheryl, it is lies because it has been confirmed that that is her father, that Mel is her father. You said even on this stage.

I don't know why I was pregnant while I wasn't with him. I was pregnant before I got back with him. Excuse my language, but she's a hoe. She didn't know who's baby whose. You know what? That's what she was. You talking about yourself, bro. Never been a hoe in my life.

Dorothy.

I never been a hoe in my life.

Dorothy. Dorothy, I have no question. I don't want to question your past. What I do want to do is stay in the present and understand.

I don't have a past. He do. He's a crackhead. She know. Dorothy, science— I didn't go nowhere to be alone.

Science does not lie.

He wouldn't even let me go nowhere.

Dorothy, Dorothy, we have the DNA tube test.

I don't want him anymore.

Dorothy. Never wanted him. At this moment, Dorothy, what your daughter needs is for you to step up as her mother to give her the closure and answers. Are you willing to start you started that journey by at least apologizing to her for giving her up to the police?

I apologize to my daughter. I apologize to my daughter. Thank you, Mama. But I'm not apologizing to him, 'cause I still don't believe he her daddy. I got to do it myself. Mama. I can't believe he is. I'm wondering why I don't get no apology. I thought I really believed you.

Right. Because I looked at you as a mother. He's my brother, Ma. And now that the truth came out, I at least thought that you would be woman enough to at least give me an apology. Did she hang up the feed? She probably did. She hung up the feed. She can't deal with the truth. Yeah, she hung up the feed.

I got my daddy, that's all that matters to me.

I'm so sad for the amount of times and the things that went through. I mean, it's clear to us, we've all seen this, that your mother has unfortunately had some issues that has caused her to feel as if she wanted to disconnect from this relationship. And her wanting to disconnect from this relationship has unfortunately caused her to lie and cause you pain and you pain as well. I will tell you this one thing that I can do now that you've gotten your answers. During your time of being high, and I can't let this slide over, I'm not accusing you of doing anything now, but I will tell you that was a critical moment in your daughter's life where she felt something was crossed the line and she does need acknowledgement and closure from that. She said out of her own mouth, nothing went far, that she ended it. So no one's looking at you as if you did something to your daughter, but in a moment of addiction, something did happen. You did cross the line and whether you remember or not, she remembers it. And so what I would encourage you to do is to give her that closure and say, "I'm sorry." Can you give her that? But lemme say this here before I say this here. I'm gonna say it in the right way. Of course.

Exactly, son. Now I feel, feel like this here, that's something I don't remember. And I just wanna say this here.

If I did do that, if you feel I did that, something like that, I apologize for you think that way.

Awesome. You'll be real.

I do wish y'all the best of luck, and I hope to see you again so I can really help y'all, all right? Wish y'all the best of luck.