My 30-Year-Old Daughter Needs To Move Out! | KARAMO

My daughter, Renice, moved in with me, and she's been a nightmare. I mean, a nightmare to deal with. She used to weigh 500 to 600 pounds, and she done lost a little weight, and she done lost her mind as well. Now she thinks she's all that. She thinks she can run all over me and do whatever she wanna do in my house. Ain't gonna happen. I'm tired. I told Renice when she moved in, the first thing I told her, you got a set of rules to abide by. 5 rules, that's all I had. She done broke every last one of 'em. So this is the last time that I'm gonna say this. If she don't show me no respect and she keep on disrespecting me in my house, she got to head out now. Go, let the back door touch you.

Well, listen, we will meet Peaches shortly, but let's start with her daughter, Renice, to get her side of the story. So everyone please welcome Renice to the show.

Hello.

Nice to meet you. Thank you for being here. So when your mother started saying stuff on that video, you was like, lies, lies, lies. Lies, lies, lies.

She lying. She ain't give me no rules. What rules?

So what do you think you did to make your mother so mad then?

Got fine. I'm fine. I lost weight. I got fine. I started living my life. Everything what I wasn't doing when I used to live with her as a kid.

So you feel like she's jealous of that?

I feel like a little bit, unfortunately now. Nope, no, now she is my mom, but I do feel like it's a little jealousy 'cause I'm getting a little—

Attention, finally. Okay, so how much weight you lost? 'Cause you look great.

I feel like it's about 350. Last time I weighed myself, it was like 350 pounds.

Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I wanna see.

Hey! Andy!

Yes, ma'am. Andy, Andy! Yes, ma'am.

Andy, okay, okay. I'll be mad, cool, if all of this is good after that. Okay, okay, I'll be mad too, okay.

But I see now what you're saying. You look like you're enjoying life. Like you're finding now the joy that maybe you didn't have before.

Exactly.

And I love that for you. So how did you end up then moving back in with your mom?

She begged me to come.

She begged you to come?

I was at home. Yes.

Okay.

Renice, come to Georgia. We can move in together. It's not gonna be like it was when you was a kid. You grown now. You know, I know you like to live your life. Just come. Mama, are you sure? Like, I can come 'cause you know how I get down.

Yeah.

It don't matter. Just come. You can be here. Whatever you want. It's our house. We gonna do it together. We can have fun.

And none of that?

None of that.

So what was the agreement then you made when you moved in? What was the agreement then?

It was supposed to just be like, we live together, like, I don't wanna say roommate, but kinda roommate.

But very roommate, like, as long as we equally pay bills, I can do what I want, you do what you want.

You have your people here, I have my people here, we chill together, this is our house. It ain't like, mama, can I have such and such over? Can they ask their mama to spend the night? 'Cause no, I'm 28, not 8.

You got it, yeah. Well, she said in that video that you've broken all the rules. What rules have you broken?

What rules are there to break? I didn't know we had rules.

So she's never told you any rules?

No, what are the 5? She said 5 rules.

Uh-huh, she did.

So I broke 5.

I don't even know. What's rule number 1?

I don't even know.

She probably made them up when she got mad. She probably made them up.

Oh, then she made up the rules. Got it, got it. Okay then. So, but you say that you think that it's okay to bring men back into the house to sleep with?

Yes.

Where else we supposed to go? Outside?

In her mind, just because you're her daughter, you shouldn't be having sex in the house? I'm trying to figure out like, what's the thought?

I think in her mind, she just might be a little jealous because she hears some sounds.

Got it.

That she not making no more. The same sound she made when she made me 28 years ago is the sound she probably heard. Clack that teeth. But she ain't making them no more. So she ain't got no motion in that bed. I got motion over here.

Got it.

So it ain't rocking. So I feel like she just in her feelings.

Got it.

OK. She need to get felt or feel tough, something like that.

OK. So what kind of relationship did you and your mother have before you moved in? Was it good?

Good.

We talked every day. Like I said, I was 3 states over. So it's like we talk on the phone. That's my homegirl. We talk every day like best friends. We was supposed to have, I told you we had plans. We supposed to be hanging out, going out, doing what we wanna do, living our best life. But now all we do, it's like more arguments now that we live together than when we was, we had fun. We can talk about everything, you know, like I'm her only child so I could tell her whatever. We could have all these talks and it's cool. But now it's just everything a little, it's always a little, a little.

A little tension.

Yeah, like.

Now you said your mom said if you move in, it wouldn't be like this when you were younger. What does she mean by that?

Like I could have my freedom, you know what I mean?

'Cause when she was younger, I'm assuming she was strict?

Yeah, of course. I couldn't have people over. You know, you got rules. Can't be on the phone, can't be out too late, can't do, you know, a parent. She was a great mother. So whatever parent rules, teenage rules. You know, when you a teenager, you can go over your friend's house, but you got a curfew.

Curfew.

I don't have that at 28. At 28, I can come in the house when I want to come in the house as long as I'm not disrespecting you.

Got it.

You know what I'm saying? I feel like I'm good over here.

But my producer said she's threatening to kick you out the house.

She has, but she ain't gonna.

But if y'all, do y'all pay equal bills?

Yeah.

So how is she kicking you outta your own house? Do you think she's just overreacting? I'm confused by this.

She's dramatic. I think she just playing. I think she just want to hear, I don't know.

Got it.

I want to see her put me out. She gonna have to move me. She gonna have to physically move me up outta there.

All right then, well let's meet your mom. Please welcome Peach to the show so we can get her side of the story.

How you doing?

Karamo, how are you? You look great, you look great. You look good. Nice to meet you. How are you?

It's nice to meet you.

I can't lie, I do love an outfit and a walkout. So I can't lie, I love it. You look cute. Both of y'all.

Thank you.

So what do you have to say about what you just heard? 'Cause I heard you—

She's lying, she's lying. She's lying, she don't pay half of nothing. First of all, let's get that clear. She don't pay half of nothing in my house, honey. Let me tell you that right now. So she don't have no say in my house. So love her, love her, but you don't pay half for. Excuse me. You don't pay half for nothing, Ladybug.

You right, she right. I didn't pay half this month, I paid the whole. So Kita right, let's talk about it. Plop that tea, Ladybug, the last 2 months.

Oh, well, you know what?

So is that true, Steve?

Let's wheel it on back. Let's wheel it on back now. Hold on. Because the peach is out here. OK. OK. OK. She don't pay half for nothing.

Mm-hmm.

She paid rent.

Okay.

Okay?

And this past month, did she pay the full?

Now, let's get that clear. Yes or no? Only because [MASKED] had a heart attack.

Yes or no?

I understand.

[MASKED] had a heart attack and I needed some help. So she did come through. I did forget that because it's only one time.

Got it.

But it's okay. But she did come through for me and I appreciate that. I even bought her a nice little card and everything to tell her thank you. Yes, I'm sure. But for that, she really did. She came through about $800.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay, that's good.

Woo, baby boy.

So what were the house rules that you expected Renice to follow?

I don't want her having sex in my house.

No sex in the house.

I don't want her drinking a lot of alcohol in my house.

No alcohol.

I don't want her being disrespectful in my house.

No disrespect.

I don't want her destroying things in my house.

No disrespect, no throwing things, okay.

As a matter of fact, it's right here. Look at here, look at God.

Wait, what?

The drinking got to stop. And I'm gonna tell you why the drinking got to stop.

Wait, what?

The drinking's gotta stop because this one right here woke me up at 5 o'clock in the morning and told me she lost her cell phone and I gotta be at work at 7 o'clock in the morning.

I didn't ask you to get up, I just needed to know GPS.

That's disrespectful. No men in my house, no sex in my house, and no destroying my stuff. And I mean that.

Yeah.

I mean that. But don't you drink alcohol? I'm grown. I'm grown too, but don't you drink? I'm grown, but that's my house.

Okay, so it's not my house.

That's my house, ladybug.

But it's my house too.

No, you live with me.

I don't live with you, we live together.

Your name ain't on my lease.

Why it's not on the lease?

Because that's my house.

Why?

That's my house. So how did I get to Georgia? Tell these people how I got to Georgia. That's my house, lady. Boy, Get out of that. Meanwhile, that's who, that's what I'm saying. I don't understand. Karamo, this is why I wrote the show, 'cause this is what I go through.

I am stressed out, you hear me? So she's broken every one of those rules.

Man, let me tell you the one. You want me to tell you the one rule she broke that messed me up? It's gone off the thing, Lord help us.

Which one is it? Which one's the rule?

Now I got to get up early in the morning 'cause I go to work.

I heard that waking up you at 5:00 AM.

No, I gotta be at work at 5:00 AM, so I'm up earlier than that.

Don't tell these folks.

This girl, when I said no men in my house, I meant no men in my house. So I got my room on the other side of the room on the house, hers on the other side. I go to her door 'cause I heard something. I'll give you your respect and I knocked on the door. Oh, but when I heard a noise, I heard a noise that was illegal. I said, what the hell is going on over there? 'Cause it didn't seem like she was having no fun. She wasn't having no fun because it was illegal. I don't know what it was, but it was like, eee! I'm ready to bust that damn door open like, what is going on with my daughter? My daughter, like, what is that? Because that ain't fun to me.

Well, what were you doing?

I wanna know too.

I was probably saying, mm.

That's why she gotta go. Because see, when she grow, she wants to grow and stuff, but she gotta have her own place. I'm very grown. Because yeah, she can't do grown business in my house. At the end of the day, I love her, we cool, da da da da, but I'm mama.

But do you do grown business?

And you gonna respect me as your mother.

Do you do grown business?

At the end of the day, you gonna respect me as your mother.

I don't respect you. So besides the house rules, I mean, those rules, was there any other agreements y'all made?

As far as like paying the rent? Yeah, well, when my lease got up, my lease was up in, well, I renewed my lease in March. Renice was only paying $250, y'all, that's it, $250. But I literally forgot, literally forgot that my rent went up too in March. So when my rent went up, her rent had to go up. But I didn't tell her until the next month. I said, Renice, I'm gonna go ahead and tag another $100 on because the rent done went up and I done got a new car. I need your help. I ain't paying that. You should have told me in March. I said, excuse me?

Why would you say that to your mother? If you say this is my house equally, why do you feel like you have the liberty to say, well, I'm not paying the increase in rent?

Right.

Well, she didn't wanna put my name on the lease, so that's on her. That's how she wants it.

Got it. Peaches, Reese also said when we got out here that you're jealous of her weight loss. Is that true?

What'd you say?

That you're jealous of her weight loss.

Look good again.

She said what?

I look good.

That you're jealous of her weight loss.

Wait, look. I know I came outta you, but I do look good.

She look good, don't she, y'all? She does look great.

She looks great. I look good.

She looks great.

I look good. I think she look real good. I think she did.

You look great. I think she look good. Both of y'all. Mama, you too.

I do get it from my mom.

Am I jealous?

I get it from you. I get it from you a little bit.

I don't know where that shit come from, but okay.

I get it from you a little bit.

Yeah. What type of relationship, mother-daughter relationship, did y'all have in your opinion before she moved?

She just was, we just really had a good relationship, but I knew something was going on with my daughter. Mentally, after her weight loss, I knew something, cuz I would talk to her and she started changing. And then she was in a relationship with somebody and I just knew something was wrong. But then when she went to go get counseling and they kinda confirmed what I was thinking. So this, when she didn't get the skin surgery, that broke her. It literally broke her soul. And I heard it over the phone. And at that time she was staying with my mom. And she was really going through a lot mentally and she didn't know that she was being a little bit mean. So I didn't want my parents to go through that mental anguish of what I knew she was getting ready to come through. So I lied. I literally lied. She don't even know this. It's about to be the truth. I literally lied to her and said, "Ranice, I'm lonely. I'm going through stuff.

I need you down here." Hearing this, what does it make you feel?

Honestly, it's just, I mean, my mama always been the type of, my own, like I said, I always been big. So she used to always do stuff to make me not feel like I was being talked about. So it kind of is up her alley to try to make me feel good in a way. And so I understand that it can't, it always starts and comes from a good place.

Why do you want Renice out of your house?

Because she's 30 years old. It's time for her to go.

I ain't 30.

Don't ask me. And I believe, well, you about to be 30 years old.

Get it right. I'm 28.

And I'm ready to live my life too. I was living it before she got down here. So I'm ready to get back and do me.

Living.

I'm ready.

Living. I'm living.

So she gotta go. I wanna walk around my house naked. I wanna do things I wanna do. I wanna have my own man. I wanna do things. So it's just time for her to go.

Renice Peaches says you've damaged her sofa or something like that.

I didn't damage it. See, what had happened was—

And this from sex, I'm assuming.

What did you say? What?

Um. She broke the sofa from sex.

You broke the sofa?

From sex. It was sex?

Well, you know how sometimes you just be chilling on the couch and you know stuff just might happen. But I did, she ain't know.

She know now.

Oh my God. Ladybug, did you have sex in my house on my couch? Oh no, the hell you— I'm fighting.

It's okay. I rolled the couch right on outta here. I rolled the couch right on outta here.

She just stepped on my couch. Yeah, I did. You's a nasty-ass little girl. You nasty as fuck. You sit there and you do some nasty shit. You really do.

I get it from you.

No, you don't.

Straight from you.

That done pissed me off.

You'll be fine.

No, I ain't fine.

I'm gonna tell you this.

That done paid me mad.

I'm on 10. First of all, you both have great personalities. And I see the love between you two. It is so clear. But one thing I also do see is I do believe that you have had a life where you've had a mother that has protected you, spoiled you to a degree. And I think that as you've gotten older, I think you don't appreciate it as much. And I think that you also do take advantage of it. Because when your mother just told you the reason why she brought you here, brought you here. Your response was very much along the lines of like, yeah, that makes sense, that's what she always does, that's what she's supposed to do, versus, wow, Mom, you saw that I was struggling, you saw that I was about to be hurtful to myself or other people, and you also knew that maybe I was in a space to talk about it. So instead of forcing me to confront something that was uncomfortable, you just invited me in, and I thank for that and I appreciate that. None of that came outta your mouth. Your mouth, only thing came outta your mouth was just the idea of like, this is what she does, this is what she always did. And I think that is starting to bleed into your relationship, not just because you're living together, but period. I mean, even when she said they raised the rent and she said she covered it that one month, your response wasn't, thank you for covering that. The response was, well, I don't wanna give you money for the next 'cause you didn't tell me. She loves you and she appreciates you and she wants to have fun with you. I just watched all this. Like, this was all, I wanna come on this show and have fun with my daughter, but I also want her to know that there needs to be a change in our relationship. And that change is not with your mom, it's with you.

Yeah.

I receive that. I receive that.

It's true when she says you're 30 and now it's time for you to get on your own. And it's not just moving out. It's also time for you to start seeing your mother for the woman who she is and what she's done for you. You wanna say anything to your mother?

I love you, Ladybug. I don't want you to feel beat up on and I want you to live your best life, okay?

Thank you.

You're welcome.

I appreciate that. I receive that.

Now when I leave, don't call me to come over every day 'cause I ain't coming over. Don't ask me for no passwords to Netflix. That was too direct. Not good.

Listen, I gotta just say this. There's more growing for you and a lot less groaning for you, okay?

I like that. I like that.

I like that.

I like that.

But you made your commitment to your mother. Just wake up sometimes and say, thank you, mom. And watch y'all's relationship blossom even more, 'cause she deserves that.

I appreciate that.

Yeah, you're welcome. Thank you for being here. Y'all two have the best personalities ever. Y'all both fly. All right, listen, y'all gonna be all right. All right, everyone, listen, And stay with us, friends. We'll be right back with more.