In this YouTube episode, host Karamo mediates a heated conversation between Jada and her boyfriend Trey about trust, infidelity, and relationship readiness. Jada expresses feeling unloved, unappreciated, and insecure after months of Trey frequently "going outside" with friends, especially following a recent miscarriage that strained their emotional connection. She seeks reassurance and wants clearer communication, while also questioning whether Trey is cheating. Trey acknowledges his own way of grieving the miscarriage, admits to using Tinder on January 3rd (though claims it was only to check the app), and defends his frequent outings as a desire to explore life. Karamo conducts a phone‑unlock segment, revealing 100 photos of Jada on Trey's phone and confirming active Tinder usage, but finds no suspicious text messages. Throughout the dialogue, Karamo offers counseling‑style advice, concluding that Trey is not ready for a committed, monogamous relationship and suggesting both parties need honest conversations about their expectations. The episode ends with Karamo urging Trey to accept his desire to be “outside” and for Jada to consider whether staying aligns with her needs.
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So you have threatened to break up with your boyfriend.
I have.
Okay, tell me.
I have on multiple occasions. He likes to, when I say go outside, I mean that's what we say in Texas, going outside.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Going outside.
Yes.
I'm not really knowing where outside is or who outside he's with.
Yes, but you just know he outside.
But he's outside.
Yeah.
And it'll be like 2, 3 times a week, weekends. Okay babe, I'm going outside. Well, where? With the boys.
Where?
Where?
Yeah.
We just going. Okay. And then comes back right when the club's closed.
I wanna back up. Where did you meet him? How did y'all get together?
We met at the club.
So y'all met outside?
We met outside. We met outside.
Okay, y'all met outside. Okay.
Yeah. Okay. It was definitely, I know it's corny, love at first sight type thing. Instantly.
That's not corny. I'm a romantic.
Look, that's what I'm saying. I am too. So it was basically, I never really felt comfortable with anybody Yeah. But when I met him, I was like, no, this is my man.
Got it.
My man, my man, my man.
This is my man. You knew it, you knew it. Those guys before in the past, did they ever cheat on you?
Yeah, I've been cheated on a couple times. Mm-hmm.
Have you ever caught him cheating on you?
No, that's why, you know, I'm like, eh, but you're out all the time. I'm 20.
Yes.
Life's just starting out.
Oh, you're a baby.
Yeah. This is my first, what my grandma calls my first grownup relationship. I wanna have a steady, Non-toxic, just, I'm big on reassurance. I want to know that we are still good in this relationship and I don't feel that right now. I don't.
You don't feel reassured at all?
I don't feel reassured, I don't feel wanted, I don't feel appreciated. I just wanna know, you know, he goes out with his friends all the time. What about us?
How long have you been feeling this way? Not wanted?
It's been a couple of months.
Months, okay. How many months did you say, like 3?
4.
4 months?
Yeah.
And how long have y'all been together?
Almost 8 months, 9 months this month. So I know it's still early.
So half of your relationship you haven't felt wanted. Yeah. You haven't been reassured and he been outside.
Yeah.
Okay. Have you ever asked to look through his phone?
Yeah.
And what'd he say?
You doing too much. It's fine, why are you tripping? You shouldn't be. I was like, well, let me just see. Like, can I even just, oh, can I use your calculator type stuff? I can't see like at all? You won't even just hand it to me?
Yeah.
So now I'm just like—
Makes you suspicious.
Yeah.
So y'all been together for 8 months. Do you feel like he's the same person you fell in love with?
I wanna say yes.
But you also wanna say no.
Yeah. Recently we just went through a miscarriage. I just had a miscarriage. Mm.
I'm so sorry.
Yeah. And I think that kinda put a riff in it further, especially 'cause of my emotions and his emotions. It was tough on me. I feel like I went through the whole 7 stages of grief all at one time. And I don't really know how he felt fully.
He didn't communicate to you?
Yeah, we have matching tattoos of the names we're gonna pick out. So I was excited. I was very ready for this to happen. And so when it didn't happen, broke me completely and I don't fully know how he felt.
Yeah.
Mostly 'cause he's like, we weren't ready anyway. I get that, but that still hurts. I was growing something that was ours for the first, you know, it was big for me.
Was that your first pregnancy?
Yeah.
Yeah, makes sense. And has it been difficult between you two since the miscarriage?
A little bit.
Yeah.
A little bit.
What are you thinking right now?
I don't even know. I want my relationship.
Yeah.
I wanna know if I can, we can do something together communication-wise to further our relationship. 'Cause like I said, I do wanna stay with him for long-term. This is who I wanna be with. And I need to know if he wants to be with me the same way. And if so, change something. He's not a romantic person. I plan our dates.
So you want him to do more?
Yeah.
I wanna hear what's going on from him. So everyone please welcome Trey to the show. Hey. What's going on? How you doing? Doing good. How you doing? Thanks for being here. Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you too.
I see the matching chains. Yeah. So how have you been healing since the miscarriage?
I've been kind of in my own headspace about it, doing my own thing, you know what I'm saying? Going outside, trying to cover it up, act like it never really happened, you know?
Mm-hmm.
But I know what happened. So why can't you tell me how you felt?
'Cause you're sensitive. You're sensitive about a lot of things and the way I feel about it, you wouldn't like the way that I feel. You know what I'm saying?
How do you feel about it?
I feel like it's a blessing in disguise. We weren't ready financially, mentally. We're still not ready. I don't think it should happen. And I didn't tell her that because I know that she would be mad at me for thinking that.
Are you mad at him for having those feelings?
I'm not. I was just, I wanted to know how you felt in general. You put me out. I feel like I couldn't even come to you and cry to you about it because now I feel bad 'cause you're not feeling anything.
It's not that I didn't feel anything, I just, I have my own way of grieving.
Why couldn't we share that together though?
Because I'm not gonna sit in bed and cry about it all day like you are.
He's saying that for him, he grieves differently and that he thinks this is a blessing that y'all didn't have a child.
I've accepted it.
I not understand that, but—
You said you understand that or you don't understand that?
I guess I understand. Yes, we weren't ready, but that was still our kid. Even if we weren't ready, Who's really ready to have a kid? Anything can happen like that.
The child wasn't even fully like—
I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. Once the kid's here, it's here. It has a soul. It's a kid. Don't matter how far along it is.
What would you want to be better before having a child in the future if y'all were even to go back to that place?
I'd want us to at least have our own house 'cause we stay with Her sister stays with us and so does her sister's boyfriend.
So y'all live together after 8 months?
Yes.
Okay. Do you think y'all moved this relationship too fast?
Sometimes I do.
Mm-hmm.
Sometimes I do.
Yeah.
I feel like we moved at her pace.
Oh, and it was her pace too fast in your opinion?
I feel like I've moved faster though. I have moved, definitely. I've definitely moved faster in the past, but.
And did those work out when you moved fast?
No.
What happened? You started resenting the people?
I feel like once I get to know somebody, I could see who they are. And those past relationships, I didn't like who they were. It was very toxic. We fought all the time.
Is it 'cause you're going out and not tell 'em where you're going?
No, it's 'cause actually 'cause I went out with them. I see myself having a future with you. Kids, the house, all of that.
Mm-hmm.
You're not showing it.
And really, I wanna start over.
Oh, well before y'all starting over, it's time for us to unlock this phone.
Yeah.
Woo!
All right, we unlocked your phone, Trey, and when it came to photos, we found 100 photos. Now the photos were all of Jada.
I will say that.
When it came to text messages, I found zero text messages on your phone that were suspicious. When it came to apps, I found one app. You have Tinder on your phone and you are active as of January 3rd, active on Tinder.
No, no, that's not true.
I don't be on Tinder. That's exactly true. You were active as of January 3rd on Tinder.
My account has been taken down. I'm not active on Tinder.
You were active as of January 3rd.
Active.
Active. Let me, let me, uh.
Active. Active, meaning you were on the app. You opened the app and used it, 'cause that is the only.
What happened that day, January 3rd?
I had, I think we got into an argument. I just went on Tinder just to see what was up.
So you do admit you got into an argument and you went on Tinder?
I did go on Tinder, yes. It was just to look though, you know what I'm saying? It was my old account that I used to use. I just wanted to see who was still on there.
Did she also kick you out that day?
No, she didn't kick me out that day.
She didn't kick you out?
I was on the couch that day.
So you were on the couch?
Yeah.
In the house with your girl on Tinder?
Yeah.
After an argument? All right, can I give you some advice? You want some advice? Sure. Older brother to younger brother. What's going on?
Let me know.
I heard you say that you wanna build a future with this woman.
Mm-hmm.
I heard you say that you see it, but I also heard you say you move too fast. And I think one is actually more true than the other. What is true is that you move too fast and you're not ready to be in the committed relationship that I know one day you do want. Mm-hmm. And I think you're putting these expectations on yourself that you kind of have to pretend pretend to be in it now instead of just being 22.
So you think I should break up with her?
Be real with me. I can't tell you to break up with her or not, but I can tell you you're not ready for a relationship. And I can also tell you that I don't think you're cheating, but I do think that you're in a place right now where you would like to explore and see the world. You would like to be outside. You wanna do these things, but for some reason you keep getting yourself in these relationships where you're like, okay, 'Cause that's going backwards.
Yeah. I wanna move forward.
Then why are you getting these relationships?
'Cause I wanna move forward with her.
But you're not ready. You're not ready. It's like a child who wants to drive a car. You're not ready yet. You're not tall enough for this car. You can't reach the pedal. You ain't ready for this relationship. I've been in a lot of relationships. I can tell you, you are not ready. You're not ready. First of all, all this going outside, When you ready to be in a relationship, you ready to be in a house with your girl. I'm telling you. And if you wanna be outside, you would want to take your girl with you. The fact that you even admitted to her that you said, "I'm going with couples." You going with couples and you don't wanna bring your girl? Come on, bro. You kept saying to her, "No cap." You no cap. Come on. And I gotta be real with you. I don't think she ready either. So I don't wanna put this all on you. She ain't ready either. She has something in her mind that she's built up that she thinks she wants and she's doing all the things that I believe that you said that she's seeing online that she's like, oh, I want this. Let's move in, let's buy a dog, let's do this. Come on, she also said out of her mouth, y'all been together for 8 months and 4 months of it has been trash. Come back out. You heard what I said back there. He ain't ready for this and you know that.
Yeah.
He is not ready for this. He just said that y'all got an argument. He's sitting on your couch on Tinder on January 3rd.
Yeah.
And I know this is hurtful for you and I'm sorry because you have been in relationships where you've, been cheated on. And so you wanted this to be different?
I did. I really, I really, I really wanted to be with him.
But nobody's cheating.
I understand that, but I'm not finna stay if you don't even act like you want me around.
You just said I don't know how to do these things that you want. It's not that you don't know how, because you're a smart man. I've listened to you communicate. You're smart, you're intelligent. You just don't want to do those things. Because when I've asked you simple questions about like you going out with your friends, you say things like, well yeah, that's what it is. So I already know emotionally and mentally you're not in that place. So you can restart all you want, but then when you get back into your same environment, you're gonna go right back to the same habits. And it's because you're young and that's what you wanna do. And it's okay that you wanna do that. And that's why I keep saying, stop pretending like you want something different. Just be real about wanting to be outside.
I wanna be outside, but—
Boom, and just stop right there. So stay outside. And you go find me somebody who wants to be inside with you.
I'm gonna go inside.
Okay.
You knew I wasn't looking for a relationship when we met each other. You weren't looking for a relationship. We thought we found something, but I was good single and I will be good single again.
[APPLAUSE] [Speaker] So do you have the courage to have an honest conversation with her?
[Speaker] I don't wanna be single. I wanna stay with you. We got a good life going already.
Okay, this is what's frustrating and sad. Is because you're actually a good guy. And I actually feel like in 4 years, if y'all would've met, I feel like this would've been a good match. But right now you're not on the same page and it's okay. And I'd rather y'all not get stuck down at 20 and 22 and wake up at 30 resenting each other because y'all tried to play house when y'all should have been actually living your lives. Yeah. So I've given you your chance. I don't think he's cheating on you, which is gonna be at least be refreshing for you, but you have now witnessed and realized that the rest of it ain't right. Hopefully y'all find the courage to separate. If not, good luck with y'all. All right? Thank you for being here and sharing your story. Hold on, where you going? I'll tell you where you're going. Right here to subscribe and right here to watch more. Period.
