My Boyfriend Wished Death Upon My Unborn Baby! | KARAMO

So my boyfriend Lawrence, he's accusing me of sleeping with his brother. Not alone, just that. My sister's boyfriend and his neighbor and pretty much anybody else.

It's interesting 'cause normally when people accuse people of cheating, it's like with strangers, somebody you're not around. It's interesting that he thinks that it's all the people that you know.

Mm-hmm.

Oh.

Yes.

Okay. So when did these allegations begin?

They happened about when I had our second baby, about 8 months ago. And it's been going on since then. He also did not want his brother at the hospital when we gave birth, or, you know, like for visitation. So it was just her parents that were able to see our daughter at the time. And it's been going on since then. It's been nonstop.

How bad have things gotten?

They have gotten so bad to where I've deleted my Facebook, don't have social media because I'm accused of talking to any and everybody. And he even does like checks on my underwear. So yeah, he checks to see if I—

Y'all some fools, come on, ugh. Who said that? Y'all some fools, who said that? Who said that, who was that, who was that? It was him right here? Okay, he's talking about, "Ugh." I get it, girl. How does that make you feel though when they say that? When he like checks your underwear, seriously?

I mean, it hurts.

Yeah, it has to.

Yeah, it hurts. I've been with him for, you know, going on 8 years, so. We have 2 small children, so like, it hurts. I'm devastated. I cry every day, all day long about it, so.

So if you're not cheating, Why stay if he doesn't trust you?

You know, I don't have a dad. My dad walked out when I was little. So I want that from him as much as like the crying and the hurt. So I've been trying to do everything I can.

Here you go, love. Here you go. Thank you.

Um, so I've been trying to, like, prove to him and, you know, have him with our two children and show him that I've not been sleeping with all these people. And he's an amazing dad to our son and daughter, and I would like him, you know, Sorry. Hey.

No, I see. I know it's hard. I get it. I get it. You got two babies. Yeah. You're doing the best you can. Mm-hmm. And for you, I get it. It's hard. I understand. Yes.

I see.

Well, it's time to hear what Lawrence has to say. So everyone, please welcome Lawrence to the show.

How y'all doing?

How you doing? How you doing?

Oh, you a liar. You know you a liar. You're good.

I'm not lying.

You're real good.

Take a seat over here. Yeah, welcome to the show. Thank you for being here. So you said she's lying.

Yes.

You said she's real good. So what do you have to say about this? What is she lying about?

Everything.

I was sitting there watching it, man. She is a master manipulator. She is good. Like from the smelling underwear, all lies.

100% truth.

So you've never done that?

No.

Okay, okay.

I checked her area before. Yeah, not her underwear.

Yes, multiple times.

That's a different story.

I think that's worse. Not really.

Well, wouldn't you wanna study your partner? And after so many years and you've known her this and that and you know the signs, wouldn't you wanna check too?

No, 'cause I stay in healthy relationships where I trust my partner that I wouldn't have to do that. You're also concerned that she cheated with other men too outside of your brother?

Yes.

Okay, how many other men?

A couple?

Multiple. Anywhere I go, he accuse me. I can't even walk into a store and if there's another man, he is accusing me, "Oh, did you give him your number?" Like, that's what I get.

Got it.

It's like anywhere, everywhere.

Got it, got it.

Well, when you damage somebody and you cheat and you lie and you're a master manipulator, that's what you do. What do you mean? You manipulate the situation. Y'all see how she getting y'all like? She's a master manipulator.

So you believe someone else was helping Alicia cheat?

Yes, a close relative at that. Close relative, close friend, and close friends, like close family members.

So you believe all these people helping her cheat?

Yeah, like they all probably did it.

Especially her close relatives. Her close relatives most definitely was helping her and knew.

So you told my producer you feel like you're being played by her.

Yes.

How?

Because she sat in my face so long, putting on this persona like she's just so innocent, this and that, but I've been with her for so long that I know the tricks and the trades of what she do and how she do it. Like I'm not no dummy, I'm a college-educated student, I'm smart. I'm like Sherlock Holmes, I know how to play the rules, you know what I mean? She plays like, she puts on a persona to people to make it seem like I'm always the villain when I'm not. You see what I'm saying?

Do you cheat?

I do.

Yes.

I do. But at least I'll be honest with her, that's the difference. I'll be honest with her when I do. I'll be honest when I cheat.

So I'm gonna ask you this. Do you think you put on personas as the victim?

What you mean though?

So do you think you're the victim in this situation?

Yeah. I do think I'm the victim because I didn't start cheating until she was cheating. I didn't start doing her wrong until— I know, but she was still cheating.

Well, Alicia turned over her phone to our Unlock the Phone investigator. And Lawrence, you wanted to know if Alicia is communicating with any other men. And if Alysia was sending any explicit photos to other men, right? That's what you wanna know? Yep. Lawrence, if these results come back that Alysia cheated, what will you do?

Honestly, I'm gonna just leave her. I mean, I don't wanna be with her anyway, but I kind of wanna make it work for my kids. You see what I'm saying? I wanna make it work for my kids. But if it do comes back that she did what she was doing. Like, you're good or not? I'm good. I don't want the relationship. I don't want— No part of ties with her. We can take our kids or take one kid each and go our way.

It doesn't matter.

Or however she wanna do it.

I'm gonna ask you, I'm gonna ask you, if these results come back, he's already said he cheated.

Yeah.

If these results come back that he's still doing stuff, what are you gonna do?

I'll leave his ass and I'm good. I don't want this anymore if that's the case. Will you really? Yep, I'm done.

You are done?

Yep.

Okay, okay. Well, I think it's time to unlock the phone. Unlock, unlock, unlock, unlock, unlock, unlock, unlock. Alicia, we unlocked your phone. Okay. Here we go. Lawrence, you wanna know if Alicia has been communicating with his relative. Alicia, you said you are not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched We looked your phone and found that she is telling the truth. She has not been in communication at all.

I told you so.

In any sexual nature, flirting nature, in any way with any one of your relatives, especially your brother. There's been nothing at all. So Des, I wanna be clear about this because with us and our Unlock the Phone investigator, we go back with even things that are deleted. So I wanna be clear about that. We have access up to even 5 years of things. You've been together for 8 years. You said it didn't start. So we have access. So in that time period, there has been no flirtatious, nothing sexual, nothing at all with any family member, particularly also your brother. Nothing. I just wanna make sure that's clear. 'Cause you said you saw them, you gave 'em googly eyes, and now I'm confirming for you nothing at all. Okay. Lawrence wants to know if Alicia is communicating with any other men. Alicia says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her apps and found that she is telling the truth. She has not communicated with any other man.

I told you so.

Lawrence, you wanna know if Alicia has been sending any explicit photos to other men. Alicia says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her DMs and found That she is telling the truth. She has not ever sent it to Karamo. You hear that? So tell me, how do you feel?

A little bit better.

A little bit better? Why just a little bit?

Because that thought's still in my mind.

But how can the thought— well, hold on, but I wanna— but how can the thought be in your mind when we're telling you we've gone through everything both in her phone and deleted and there was nothing there. How is that that you can't believe her then?

Because—

He's guilty.

Like what if that's a new phone? You see what I'm saying?

So this is what you can't do. You can't say that this is the goal line to see if you're cheating and then change the goal line again. Because that's what he just did. Because that's an unfair game in a relationship because she's never gonna be able to keep up with that. This is her phone and she's done nothing. So how do you feel? I don't know, like. Do you feel like you owe her an apology? No. Huh? That means a no.

Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, a little bit.

Well, Lawrence, Lawrence, we unlocked your phone. Alicia wants to know if Lawrence is communicating with a specific woman. With a specific ex. Lawrence says he is not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched his apps and found he is not telling the truth. Lawrence is still in contact with this specific woman from his past and he follows her also on Facebook and Snapchat. Alicia, you wanna know if Lawrence has been direct messaging any other women since their second child was born. He says he is not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched his phone and found he is not telling the truth. In an exchange with a woman, she sent him a video of her taking a shower naked. Lawrence responded by telling her, send me the bag. Listen, this is just recent, saying that he wants her to come in other sexual innuendos. This it goes. This is the photo. Let me, let me. All the sexual innuendos.

Oh, that was recent.

Yeah, it was. Thanks. Okay, recent. Okay. Okay, we'll continue on. Okay. Alicia, you wanna know if Lawrence is talking to any other women? He says he is not. Marmalux's phone investigator searched his texts and found, clearly we already know, he's not telling the truth. There's also some messages between you and Lawrence that I thought was very interesting of how he talks to you. My producers, outside of the ones that we already know he's talking to other women. Mm-hmm. My investigator found this because this alarmed me. My investigator found this and texted me immediately and said, I need you to see this. He said that when you were pregnant, He sent you this text saying, "I wish the baby in you would die and I don't want more kids." This is while you were pregnant, correct?

Yep, with the girl.

So with the— So with— Hold on one second. With the child that you are saying you don't claim, knowing she has not cheated on you, you decide to tell this woman that you hope that your daughter that was in her belly would die.

Who isn't my daughter though? That's the thing, I wanna get a DNA test to make sure it's my daughter.

You are trifling and full of shit. Please get off my stage. I, I, I mean, you don't need to be here. You don't need to see nothing. You don't need time. I, I am I'm going to apologize to everyone at home 'cause I try not to get outta character. I'm a professional, I try not to, but my butt is blowing. Like for you to have been vindicated that you have done nothing, not single one, but been a faithful, loving woman to this man. And I use that word man very loosely. And then to see texts where he has said to you with your daughter that he wished that baby would die inside of you. That he's below what I consider a man. Yes. Yeah. I wanna tell you something because I was listening to your language. You said something when I asked you about why you're saying this. You said because you didn't have a father. And what I think you want to say was that I want him to be a dad figure for them. But what you said twice, which was a Freudian slip, is I want that dad figure for me. I want that dad figure from him. There's a little girl in you who had a broken home and is hoping that this man can fix that broken home you had. But I gotta tell you, and this is serious, this is not the man that's gonna fix that broken home. And what he's gonna do is he's going to do the same thing that happened to you to you.

Your children.

And I want to ask you right now, do you want the pain that you're feeling that you don't deserve? Do you want your kids to feel that? I know you don't. I know you don't. This man sat here and played in your face and said, if she does anything, I'm gonna leave her. I don't want her. I don't want to be with her anyway. She can kick rocks. These were his words. You have to find the courage in you right now And if you can't find that courage for yourself, you gotta find it for these little kids. This man is disrespecting you day in and day out. Day in and day out. Day in and day out, he's disrespecting you. He's gaslighting you. He's trying to manipulate you. And the reason he's isolating you from his family and isolating himself from his family is because he knows that his family's gonna tell you the truth. Do you have the resources to leave him?

Yeah, I do.

Okay, good. Good. Do you have friends that could help you to move, to get out?

I have a friend that probably could.

Okay. Reach out to your friends. Okay, reach out. Reach out to us because what happens here is that this is big now. Because again, I want you to get that family figure, that father figure. I want you to get that for your family. But something you said is that I'm trying to prove to him that he can trust me. What you need to prove to yourself is that you can trust yourself. No more proving to him. No more proving to a man that he can trust you. He can trust you, prove to yourself that you can trust yourself. You got it?

Yes.

This is serious.

Yes.

I really hope that you leave this.

I am. I'm done. I can't do it anymore.

We are all praying for you and rooting for you, okay?

Thank you.

Seriously, I do love you, all right? Thank you.