My Fiancé Gave Me A LITERAL Heart Attack! | KARAMO

So why do you call your fiancée a compulsive liar?

Because she's always, she never give me a straight answer about anything.

Okay.

She always deflects. I never get a straight answer.

Okay.

It's always something else.

That's why you believe she's unfaithful?

Yes.

Okay, so you're here to unlock her phone. What do you think we're gonna find in it?

DMs from somebody else. There's always other men.

Okay, you think there's always other men?

Yeah, I saw it for myself.

Oh, you did see it for yourself? Yes. What did you see?

Well, her and one guy was talking and they called each other bae.

Bae, okay.

And when you call somebody else bae, that means a lot. B-A-E?

Yeah, bae. That's different.

Yeah.

So you don't like the word bae? No, I don't. Oh, okay, I got it.

You barely call me bae.

Uh-huh.

So why you calling another male bae?

Got it. That makes sense, right? That makes sense. Why you call somebody else bae if that's not it? Well, I think it's time to meet Leslie and hear her side of the story. So everyone, welcome Leslie to the show.

First things first, I'm not a compulsive liar. I'm not a cheat. I'm 49 years grown. I don't have to answer to you. You don't have to answer to me. Yes, we're in a relationship, but I'm a grown-ass woman.

You're right.

Just because I go somewhere, that doesn't mean I'm out cheating. Just because I go to my daughter's house, that doesn't mean I'm meeting my ex.

It's called communication.

I have nothing to do with him and their relationship. He's being a liar. He still sees my grandkids, he still has a relationship with my daughters, that has nothing to do with me. He made an agreement to still be okay with them and my grandkids. So I have nothing to do with that. When I go over there, I don't see him.

Got it.

Now you say that.

We'll see.

Let me ask you this.

We'll see because you out here stretching the truth for these people. You need to stop.

Oh, I'm sorry, Karamo.

Where are you?

I'm good, I'm good. You look nice. Thank you, you look good too. Thank you. So I wanna know, so where are you going then for 2 to 3 days? When you leave?

Because there's days that he excessively drinks and I, in my past, I've been in domestic relationship and I don't wanna deal with that.

If you don't wanna eat a drink, don't pay for it.

Sometimes, but majority of the time I'm with you.

It's not my fault.

Majority of the time you get it yourself.

90% of the time.

You don't need me to get it. Okay, so when I'm gone these 1 to 3 days, how do you get it?

Chevelle, Chevelle, I was on your side till you said that toxic shit. What are you talking about?

She don't want me to drink, why would she buy it?

If she don't want you to drink, you just don't drink.

You can't blame it on her.

She buys it. I know.

On what exactly?

She pays for it.

So if I'm gone over 23 days, how do you get it then? It's not my fault. How do you get it then?

That is her fault.

How?

We not gonna get into that. We gonna go on that later, brother. But all right.

How you get it?

You said you buy it, it's your fault.

If I'm gone 1 in 3 days, how you get it then?

He feels like your actions are the reason he can't trust you. So what are your actions?

You need to give me a reason as to why you believe that.

When I asked you something, you never give me a straightforward answer.

'Cause I'm sick of accusations. Every day it's the same thing. I wake up the same way. You never communicate. You don't talk to me. I feel like I'm dating a drill sergeant.

I'm not no drill sergeant.

That's what it feels like.

I shoot a question, you never give me a straight answer.

That's what it feels like. Leslie, from your point of view, what is the accusations he's making against you?

You run.

He always say that when I go to my daughter's house that I'm going to see my ex. First and foremost, he shouldn't even believe that I'm a cheater because he tried to take me used to see me come and frequent the store he used to work in with my ex.

No, I didn't.

And I never gave you the time of day until I broke up with my ex. So that should tell you right now I'm not a cheater.

I used to speak to you. I used to speak to you.

You used to speak to me?

Hey beautiful, how you doing? How was your day?

Okay, hey beautiful, how you doing?

When I found out about your relationship, when I found out about your relationship, that's when I cut it off. When I found out you were single, that's when I pursued you.

If when you tried to pursue me when I was with him, then that should tell you how much Some of the people he accuses you of being with are in their own relationships, is that true? Yes, he accuses me of my godson as well as my daughter's ex.

If another male say, "Hey beautiful, how you doing?" Or they call you bae, that's disrespectful.

Yeah, well he did say that you was calling somebody else bae, is that true?

Yeah, my godson, that's how we talk.

Oh, you call him godson? And I'm not being funny or nothing, but that's just how he talks.

That's what he say.

Bae, boo, that's how we talk.

That's what they say.

Okay.

And also—

I just say it different. But for you, that word is a trigger.

Yes.

You don't like that word at all. Do you call him bae?

In my past.

Sometimes.

But not really.

That's my point.

But he's an anti-bae person, so why would I?

Why would I be anti-bae?

He doesn't like that word.

Yeah, he doesn't like it.

He don't like that word, bae.

So what has this done to your friendship? Because y'all, yes, you're in a relationship. What has this done to your friendship? Do y'all get along?

No.

Uh-huh. My producer told me that he calls you names. What are the names he calls you?

Uh, thot pocket. No, no, no, no, no, no. Thot pocket.

'Cause that's how you treat yourself.

He call you hot pocket?

Yeah, I'm a thot pocket.

That's how she perceive herself.

'Cause when she always looking at other males, bro. You always staring at dudes.

I'm not looking at no other males. When I go places, I walk in a store or a restaurant or whatever.

They pay attention to you.

I can't help it though, people look at me. You're seeking attention.

She will stare at them until they make eye contact. And then she'll look away and then look again.

Does he do the same kind of teasing?

I'm engaged to a drill sergeant. So I don't look up at people when we go places. I have to walk down like I'm a nun or something.

Karamo, that phone situation, when the unlock people took that phone, she literally lost herself.

Oh, so when we took the phone to unlock it, you lost yourself?

That means that much?

You lie, you lie, you lie. To be honest, I had some of my cars locked and I wanted to adventure around. It has nothing to do with your cars.

Are you comfortable with him being around your family?

No, I take him around my family.

Why?

She don't.

Because I know it may turn into something else, 'cause I could be saying to my uncle, my brother, my cousin.

It's nothing to accuse her, it's what you show me.

I don't take him around.

Your actions speak louder than your words.

He can't go around, because before you know it, they not gonna let him disrespect me.

Well, my homeboy came over there, He came to my house the other day, right?

We got it.

I have to get up and always remove myself because I don't want no problems.

What happened in July?

I had a heart attack.

Oh my gosh. So sorry. And how are you now health-wise?

I do my cardiac rehab. It's all the way through December. I have to do it 3 times a week. I feel like some of the stress from this relationship contributed to it.

Yes, of course. How was he there for you during this time?

He was there. He was there when I had it. He rushed me to the hospital. He was there every day that I was there at the hospital.

Even slept in the bed with her?

Yes. When I came home, you know, he was there for me.

Cook, clean, do everything I was supposed to do for her.

Yeah.

To show my love.

Yeah, but then once I kind of got back better a little, per se, It started back when I started maneuvering and going back out in the world again.

It started back. Well, it's time to unlock the phone.

Unlock, unlock, unlock, unlock.

Leslie, we unlocked your phone. Here we go. Chevelle, you wanna know if Leslie has any inappropriate DMs. She says she does not. My Lock the Phone investigator searched her DMs and found that Leslie is telling the truth. Chevelle, you wanna know if Leslie is texting with any other men and one specific woman. She says she is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her texts and found that Leslie is not telling the truth. Our investigator found 110 texts between her and another woman, but nothing suspicious. But we did find texts between you two. There was nothing suspicious, but we did find the texts. We gotta tell you what we find, you know what I mean? Chevelle, you wanna know if Leslie has sent any photos to other men or women during the relationship. She says she has not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her photos and found that Leslie is not telling the truth. Investigator found a photo from 3 weeks ago that she sent to a guy named [MASKED].

[AUDIENCE] That would be my grandson.

That's your grandson? Yeah.

Hello.

Okay.

That's your grandson. And who is that? Who is [MASKED]?

I just said that's your grandson. Okay, great.

I know, I saw the picture.

Okay, good. Listen, y'all tell us to go through, we gonna find everything. So from what we have found, she's not doing anything at all. She's not going anywhere. She's being faithful to you. How do you feel about that?

I feel better.

You do? What do you guys say?

Give me something.

I knew it was nothing there.

Yeah.

My grandson got a new phone. He wanted to put everybody's picture on the contacts. So I knew that it was not gonna be nothing there.

I tried to talk about it. She don't talk. She just shuts down.

I shut down because I feel like you're attacking me.

I'm not attacking you. I want you to know, like me, I have feelings.

I ask you something. I do too.

Because I care.

Well, Chevelle, she wants to know as well. So we unlocked your phone. Unlock, unlock, unlock, unlock, unlock, unlock. Here we go. Leslie wants to know if Chevelle has been hiding anything inappropriate. He says he is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his apps and found that Chevelle is not telling the truth. My investigator says Chevelle has an active OnlyFans account with 175 interactions since November.

Since when?

November.

Since we've been together, basically.

This is on my phone. I don't go in there.

Well, you've had 175 interactions since November, so you do go in there.

Yeah, you go in there.

All right, Leslie, you wanna know if Chevelle is communicating with any other women. He says he is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his DMs and found that Chevelle is not telling the truth. My investigator found DMs between him and 12 other women.

I already knew it. 'Cause when you accuse somebody of something, you're doing it yourself.

But this is where we're—

That's what my grandmother always said.

We wasn't together.

My grandmother always said that.

Then what? The one?

Then when you're the one that's doing the accusing?

Well, here we go. Leslie, you wanna know if Chevelle has any inappropriate communications with any other women during their relationship. He says he does not. Monlock's phone investigator searched his texts and found that Chevelle is not telling the truth. We found 66 texts between him and another woman asking for sex and to meet up. And that was this month. Hey, I've been lonely for the past 4 months, which I need you to come and be my friend, benefit Can you do that? Of course. You have to send me the address. That's this month.

We weren't together. We were not staying together. No, we weren't.

No, no, no, no, no.

We weren't staying together.

No, it says the past 4 months. Stop trying to stretch the truth. Keep it real with yourself.

That's this month.

No, no, no, no, no.

We weren't together.

No, no.

You forgot?

I was staying with. We weren't together.

You wasn't with her a whole 4 months.

Yes, I was.

You say, "I have been lonely for the past 4 months." I know how, I know my math. I know my math. I know my math. That's what she said.

That's what she said. That's what she said.

All right, here we go. So Leslie, Leslie, you wanna know if Chevelle has any inappropriate communications with his ex. He says he does not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his phone and found that Chevelle Is not telling the truth. We found 39 texts between him and his ex, but this the crazy part. Chevelle, we got one of you calling her bae and telling her you love her.

She know that.

She saw it.

But you say you don't like the word bae. Bae, I need a response. Chevelle, how you gonna say you got a problem with the word bae?

Mr. Anti-Bae.

Can you please not call me bae at all?

You have to get yourself together first. Bae, I need a response. And then she— hold on, you— hold on, Chevelle, no. Hold on, no, Chevelle, Chevelle, Chevelle. You said you don't like the word bae, then you called your ex bae, and then she responded, "Don't call me bae." And what is said after that? She responded.

My apology. 'Cause it wasn't supposed to come out like that. That's my kid's mother. That's my kid's mother.

She saw that.

I saw the text, but I appreciate her for straightening it.

Exactly. Ain't that what I said?

You had no business doing it anyway.

It was because I'm trying to see my kid, right?

You had no business doing it. You don't gotta see your kid through that. They had a courthouse date, baby.

Stop talking about you can't see your kids.

That's the problem we have in the household. They have a courthouse. Fathers have just as much rights as a woman.

So stop telling me you can't. You gotta call her babe to see your kids. So what I've realized in this conversation, what I've realized in this conversation is that you have yet to own up. I know you admit it right now.

I've been admitting it. I told them before they even unlocked my phone.

So what I'm happy What we knew now is that you're making the right decision of taking this slow because there's a lot of communication and there's a foundation that is broken.

This still need work.

It needs a lot of work. I need a lot of work.

Not on my behalf, maybe on his, not mine. I can admit what I'm wrong. Just like I said I would. That's why I told you when we come here, I told you, you knew before we came here, I told you when I first saw the Karamo Show that you and your mother introduced me to watching, I said I'm going on that show because I'm tired of your accusations. I told you. I told you. Look how it turned out. It fell on you.

I'm glad that you came.

All what I told you fell on deaf ears. You just knew that you was gonna keep sizing me like that, but it's okay.

It wasn't sizing you. You got that. It's getting to an understanding.

Nah, they ain't getting no understanding. Get your own damn understanding, not my fucking understanding.

You right.

Because I've been doing the right thing.

First, Chevelle, I wanna thank you for spreading the word about my show. Appreciate that. I do appreciate that. But secondly, I gotta tell you, this is not about communication. What this is about is this about your ability to be transparent and your ability to also talk about where you're at in your life right now. I don't like breaking up couples. That's never my goal on here. But when I don't see there's a path of transparency and honesty, what are you both in this for? If I can give you a first step, I would ask you to write down exactly what you really need outta a relationship.

No, he need to first, first he need to stop drinking. Every day, that's rule number one.

I don't do that every day.

Yes, you do.

Listen, you two called the show together, but I think at this point you need to leave the show separately and to have some real conversation about where you need to be. Because if you actually do have a desire to change, I wanna meet you there. That's what I— I'll give you some of those tools, but it's not her job to meet you there. It's her job to continue to protect herself and to make sure that she's happy and healthy.

Say it again, Karamo.

Amen.

I like that. I like the sound of that. That sound real good.

All right, friends, stay with us. Karamo.