My Fiancé's Mom Is Ruining Our Relationship! | KARAMO

My guest Nisha loves her fiancé Tiff, but says Tiff's mom is ruining their relationship. Take a look at this.

Tiffany is the love of my life and I cannot wait to marry her. The biggest problem in my relationship right now would be Tiffany's mama, Felicia. Felicia and I have been going at it for 2 years straight. I don't know, I don't think she never liked me. She's always talking about my kids, she's talking about me. She tell Tiffany, all of our business. When I heard Tiffany's mama wouldn't come to the show, I just felt like she wasn't woman enough to come to me and talk to me about the situation we have going on.

We will talk to Tiff and Nisha shortly, but let's start with Felicia to hear her side of the story. So welcome to the show, Felicia.

Thank you.

So what do you think about what you just heard? I know that laugh.

Well, I'm Tiffany's mom.

Mm-hmm.

What's her name? Tanisha?

Oh, mm.

'Cause I really don't know her. I know nothing about her for 2 years. Excuse me.

Mm-hmm.

So I'm getting a little emotional. No problem. 'Cause I seen that. I didn't even know they was engaged, but let's—

Oh, you didn't? You just found that out?

Yes.

Wow, okay.

Yes.

So how do you feel about Nisha? You feel like you don't know her?

I don't like her.

You don't like her?

No, I do not.

Why not? 'Cause she thinks you don't like her about her kids or something about her. What about her?

I don't like Nisha because she's very disrespectful. When she first met me, we were at my house. She did not even speak to me. So from then, no, I did not like her.

What was her reason to not speak? Because I mean, we grew up in a house, you walk in, you speak to everybody, you say hello. That's just manners.

Yes.

Yeah. And you're her fiancé's mother as well. So what was her reasoning behind that?

'Cause I like her, Tiffany's ex.

Oh, got it. Okay. So do you approve of their relationship?

No.

No. And why don't you approve of it?

It's toxic. Very toxic.

Very toxic.

They argue too much. They don't know how to talk and communicate with each other. Tiffany's not ready to really get married yet. Tiffany have a lot of growing up to do. Tanisha have a lot of growing up to do. The reason why she don't speak to me because I let her know how I feel about Tiffany. I love Tiffany. Me and Tiffany have a close relationship. Well, we had a close relationship. And me and Tiffany don't even talk like we used to. And the reason why I don't, talk or text Tiffany because Tanisha will have her phone and text me back. Like I'm thinking I'm talking to my daughter, I'm talking to Tanisha.

So what did Tanisha text you?

In one text when I said, so how you doing? You know my birthday coming up. And I did say don't bring her. And she said back, oh well mommy, if I don't bring her then I can't come. I know that wasn't my daughter.

Did she call you drunk in a text once?

Yeah, she said, "You's a drunk and Tiffany gets that from you. You don't know how to parent it, but I'm gonna help Tiffany get off drinking." I said, "Girl, you don't know me. I don't drink like that. And if I did, that's my business." Yeah. 'Cause you ain't, you gonna talk to me? I'm not, we're not here.

Yes, of course.

I'm here.

Yes.

I'm Tiffany's mom.

Your mom. This sounds like it's really, really deeply affecting your relationship with your daughter.

It is.

Wow.

Okay.

It is. Sorry.

No, no, you're fine. Here you go, love. Here you go.

Thank you. You're welcome.

Well, I think it's time that we hear Nisha's side of the story. So everyone please welcome Nisha to the show. Hey Nisha, how are you doing?

Hey Karamo, how you doing?

I'm good. Thank you for being here.

Thank you for having me.

So do you feel like Felicia is the biggest problem in your relationship?

I do.

Why?

Felicia, like, she say I disrespect her, but she disrespect my relationship, like, and you did know me and Tiffany was engaged.

I ain't never know you and Tiffany was engaged.

Tiffany told you and you told her, don't bring that girl around me.

You and Tiffany said y'all was married.

No, when Tiffany proposed to me, Tiffany proposed to me in front of my mama and she wanted to tell.

In front of your mama?

Yeah, she wanted to tell her mom too.

This is why I don't like her. When she came along, me and Tiffany's relationship is like.

You never gave me the time of the day. You never, she, this woman had me This woman? Miss Felicia has judged me since day one. Even before I even— When we went to Tiffany's sister's house to pack Tiffany's clothes so we can move back to— I did speak. I spoke to you and your husband. Because who not gonna speak? This is your mom. I did speak to you. I did speak to you.

So from your recollection, you think she didn't speak that first time, but from yours, you're like, "I did speak.

I might have been in a mood." To her and her husband and her sister. Like, before I even met Tiffany's mom, she has been judging me. When Tiffany first came down to just visit—

Tiffany was with her ex, cheated with you, and you know Tiffany was with her ex.

I didn't know Tiffany was— No, I did not know Tiffany was with her ex.

So Tiffany cheated and that's how y'all got together?

On a dating app.

No, no, I met Tiffany off this app. How I'm supposed to know Tiffany was in a relationship or anything? Me and Tiffany literally stayed on the phone, y'all, for 30 days straight. We started over together. At the end of the day, I love Tiffany, you love Tiffany, of course that's your daughter. I won't— Who wouldn't want to have a bond with their fix-to-be mother-in-law? But then I can't.

You're disrespectful. I tried. You're disrespectful. You ain't text me nothing.

I text Felicia so many times.

If she would apologize, maybe we wouldn't be here.

She did.

And what do you want her to apologize for? For that first meeting which she didn't speak?

The first meeting being disrespectful, telling me that I wasn't gonna be a good parent.

Can we talk? 'Cause I heard you when I was back there.

Well, to make things more complicated, there are trust issues between between Tiffanysha. So we're unlocking phones, right? Today as well. So why do you have concerns Tiffany may be cheating?

I don't think Tiffany is cheating, but I know Miss Felicia uses her ex to, you know, and of course Tiffany's gonna, Tiffany never hide anything from me. She never hide nothing from me. So if you saying that, oh, she was talking to the girlfriend, the ex-girlfriend at the time, or she still be talking to her, then that's—

I say still talking to her. You're mixing my words up, and don't go telling Tiffany I said that.

No, I'm not.

What I said was Tiffany was talking to her girlfriend then, at that time. What's all going on now, I haven't talked to Tiffany in 2 years. I wanna know the truth, Karamo.

I wanna know when me and Tiffany got together, was she still with her ex? 'Cause this is something that I didn't know that though.

Because you're confused by this. Her mother's saying that.

So is it your mama or is it you? Who is the problem?

Well, I think it's time to meet Tiff, right? Yeah, so everyone please welcome Tiff to the show so we can hear her side of the story. Hey Tiff, how you doing?

I'm well, how you doing?

I'm good, thank you for being here. So how do you feel about the situation?

Hello.

Hey, Mom.

You two look alike.

Hey.

That's your twin right there. So do you get involved when your mom and Nisha are arguing?

When they did argue, I did try to get involved. I tried to intervene. But as you know, this is my mother, this is my fiancé, so—

Are you scared of me?

What?

Are you scared of me?

Scared?

No.

Okay, that's all I wanted to know.

No.

Don't we have a relationship that's all—

A very good relationship. A strong relationship as well.

So what do you wanna say about the situation?

I think that they should figure this out because it is messing with our family dynamic.

So were you discussing moving in with your ex after your engagement?

No.

Okay, just wanna make sure.

Moving in with her?

Were y'all together when me and you got together?

No, we were not in a relationship.

So you weren't having sex yet?

Mom, I was talking to several, I was talking to, I'm gonna be honest, I was single. So I was talking to several different women during that time. That's when I met Nisha while I was still talking to other women.

So why does your mom not like your fiancé in your opinion?

Because of the one night where they had the disagreement. I think that stems and nobody ever tried to communicate it. I mean, I tried to intervene, but it just wasn't working 'cause neither of them—

It was that first night?

That's the first thing.

Let's keep it real, Tiff. Right. When you came to Pennsylvania, Nisha did not speak when she came in the house. For whatever reason. I didn't speak? No.

Ma, you're right. Listen, when you walked in, we were already in. She was about to get in the shower and stuff. She did say hello to you, your husband, and Tiffany.

And my sister. Okay.

I'm gonna be honest.

I want you to be honest.

I am.

She did speak, Ma. We drove 14 hours straight. We didn't stop at a hotel, nothing.

No, that's—

she got in the shower, she did all of that there, and we had an argument prior to getting there. But that ain't got nothing to do with it. It doesn't. And she should have changed it.

Y'all relationship and your argument don't have nothing to do with me.

So can I ask you this? Why didn't you tell your mom you were engaged?

Why didn't I? I did tell my mother I was engaged. You said through a text message, so I was wrong. I said it through a text. I said, Mom, you said you married. Let's think about marrying Anisha. I had around Anisha.

You're in the car, you and Anisha had Like this, and said, you said, I am married.

I was actually looking to propose. I didn't say engaged. I said I was looking to propose to Nisha. And you was like, don't bring her around me. I didn't wanna pause being engaged to Nisha because I knew my mom wasn't gonna be on board. I want my mom on board 100%. But I still have to live for me. I can't still, I wanna be on board with you.

Have you cheated on her?

No.

Well, I think because I have enough to understand what's going on here, that it's time to unlock the phone. All right, so Nisha, we unlocked your phone. Tiff, you want to know if Nisha is on any dating apps. Nisha says she is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her apps and found she is telling the truth. Tiff, you want to know if Nisha is messaging other women on social media. Tiff says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her DMs and found she is telling the truth. Tiff, you want to know if Nisha is talking about her negatively. Nisha says she's not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her texts and found that she's telling the truth. How do you feel about that?

Good.

How do you feel about that, Miss Felicia? Hmm. How do you feel?

I don't feel—

I mean, no one—

I mean, respectfully for Tiffany, 'cause I love her.

So you're happy at least that she's in a relationship?

I'm happy that she's in a relationship, but it's still, it's toxic.

Ma, we was young, we were arguing, but it'd be about petty things though.

Most arguments we had was, you know, she bring the extra.

You want me to? Got it. Well, listen, Tiff, We unlocked your phone. Nisha, you wanna know if Tiff is communicating with her ex. Tiff says she is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her phone and found that she is telling the truth. Nisha, you wanna know if Tiff is messaging other women on social media. Tiff says she is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her DMs and found she is telling the truth. Nisha, you also wanna know where Tiff is going. Tiff says she's just going to work, that's it. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her GPS to see if she's going anywhere else, and she's not, she's telling the truth. It's just work. So from what we're seeing in your phone, and we check messages that are deleted, we check things that are in the cloud, there's no interaction between you and this ex. So what I think this relationship needs is a reset. It needs a reset in two ways. The first is for you, Tiff, to have clear boundaries with your mom and truly express what's going on. That's the first reset. Your mother loves you and cares for you, and I know that this is hurting her that there's no relationship. Relationship here. So you have to be the one to reset that first. Secondly, the second reset is with you. She still is the mother. And if you're going to have a relationship, there has to be a reset. You have to be able to say, I want to have a relationship. I'm sorry about that. I understand you was probably on the road, you was tired, you got over it, you aggravated. I understand all of that. I get it, I get it. But in her mind, that was a big moment where she wanted to be embraced. She wanted to feel like the love of a mother. She wanted to know that we were gonna be family. And she felt cold, she felt distant. So can we reset right now and you tell her what you hope for your future with her and if you apologize for that? Like, just, this is up to you.

I do apologize. I apologize a million and one times. I love Tiffany, you're her mom, so I love you too. I hope we can work past this and start over and you get to know me for me and like, I'm really not this crazy woman that you think I am. I'm not.

She's trying to say to you, I want you around. And I understand you can have this hard exterior, but the only one who's gonna end up being on the outs is you.

If that's how I gotta be.

I heard it. She did apologize. And but secondly—

And I can do— Can I sit right here? Ms. Felicia, my soon-to-be mother-in-law, I apologize. And I know it's gonna take some time for us to get to that level to where we wanna be, but could you please forgive me? Yes, I forgive you.

Thank you. Listen, this relationship, she's taking a big step and you're gonna have to meet her halfway with that step.

Mm-hmm.

You are?

Yes.

Are you sure? 'Cause I know for the longest he was like, uh-uh, uh-uh.

She apologized.

Oh, 'cause then you got your father.

She's made me, I felt it was sincere this time.

Perfect. Well listen, please do the work to let her in and be honest about what's going on. Seriously, I believe that this is the first step to y'all actually having a healthy relationship. All right, so good luck. I really do, yeah. All right everyone, thank you for being with us. Make sure to come back next time, friends, so we can keep talking and growing. I love you all.