My Girl Goes On Girls Trips to Act Like a Bopper! | KARAMO

How long have you two been together?

Altogether, 6 years.

Nice. And how's it been during that time?

We have our good times.

Okay.

We have rough times.

So why did you break up?

He thought that I was texting other men. I wasn't. I have multiple friends. I am adopted, so I have multiple brothers and sisters. I have a big family. So he's constantly always asking questions. Who's this? Who's that? I've never heard you talk about this person. You haven't hung out with this person. I'm not gonna hang out with everybody.

Yeah.

I don't like everybody.

Was it hard having him break up with you? You and I heard that he did it through your mother?

Listen.

Because I can't imagine my mother getting involved in any of my breakups.

That is so embarrassing.

Yeah.

First of all, Karamo, so I'm gonna break it down to you.

Okay.

So it's 10:30 at night. We're arguing, we're in the kitchen. He's telling me, oh, you're texting this person, you're sneaky, you're this, you're that. I don't have time to do any of this. I'm too wrapped up into our relationship. He calls my mother, "Come get her, she has to go. I don't wanna be with her anymore." At this point, we're in the kitchen. So he grabs my Crock-Pot and throws it outside. My Crock-Pot. My baby Crock-Pot.

Not the dog, the Crock-Pot.

My baby Crock-Pot.

I'm so sorry.

I'm so sorry. But he grabs my Crock-Pot.

I don't mind reenacting it, girl. My art department gonna come and get you, girl. They gonna be mad.

Oh, I'm sorry, art department. So he throws my crockpot outside. So now I have my mom walking past the crockpot. Why is your crockpot outside? She's on one end of me telling me, let's go get your shit, let's go. He's on the other end, yeah, get her, get her, let's go, get her out. I don't want her anymore. So you're willing to throw away at this time 4 years of a relationship that I've been totally and completely invested in. And you as my mother are gonna allow this grown-ass man to disrespect me like that. So at that point, I had no choice but to leave and move out. So I went back to my parents' house.

Got it, okay. So that's what caused it, that night. Okay then. So you moved out and how did your life change at that point?

It changed drastically. I was very depressed. I couldn't do anything.

'Cause it was a hard moment.

Yeah, it was very, very depressing for me. I ended up—

Don't cry now, girl. You threw my tissues. Don't cry now, girl. Let me, don't cry now. Let me grab it, okay? Here we go.

I'm sorry. Here's these, it's okay, girl.

I'm sorry.

I'm prepared again, I'm prepared again. Okay, now I got you just in case. So it just got toxic through these suspicions?

It really did. It got really toxic and we both knew that it was getting toxic and after him throwing me out, calling my mom and everything, I did come to the conclusion that I did have to leave. Got it. It wasn't healthy for either one of us.

So then how did you both end up getting back together?

He initiated it.

He initiated it.

We were on the phone and he was like, you're my girlfriend again. Yeah, yeah.

Just like that?

Just like that.

Any explanation? Any apology for accusing you? Any of that stuff?

No.

Okay, so what rules did he have for you in the relationship? 'Cause my producers told me he gave you rules at that point.

I had to change my number. No social media, so I'm not on social media. I started a new job. I cannot talk to any males at my job. I can't have any friends. So it was just me, my best friend, and him.

Wow. So how's your intimacy since you've been back together?

It's rough.

When's the last time y'all had sex?

I don't remember.

Okay. So, well, I think it's time to hear Alex's side of the story because there's two sides to every story. Please welcome Alex to the show.

I really, first and foremost, I wanna start off by saying I really do love her.

Yeah.

But I don't trust her.

Got it. What do you see that makes you not trust her?

Text messages of unsaved numbers in her phone. Just things.

That shit.

This thing. That shit. Can you please stop cutting me off?

No.

You had to cut me off.

Because that shit, even if it's unsaved, what is the messages? Is there anything that indicates that I'm talking to somebody else or indicates that I'm sleeping with somebody or anything like that just because they're unsaved? That's another stipulation.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

With the relationship and the breakup.

Since we're gonna talk about text messages. Karamo, she goes on this trip to North Carolina.

Yeah.

And she comes back, you know, I go through her phone just outta my suspicion, you know, 'cause after we got back to being together, it just never really felt, it felt like she was holding stuff back from me.

Yeah.

You know, the thing was when we come back, we be honest. Have I slept with people? Absolutely. Have you slept with people? She told me no.

Got it, okay.

She told me no, but something in my stomach wasn't sitting right with me. She goes to the bathroom one night, I go through her phone, there's a text message from a guy in North Carolina texting her coordinates to meet her. And you telling me that you didn't have sex with anybody and you're telling me that what I'm viewing is, but this number wasn't saved, number one, that's my biggest stipulation. Number two, he gave you the address, you said I'm 5 minutes away and you said I was here and get this, Not only did you say I was here, after that you said I can't wait to see you again. So what was so great that you couldn't see him again? I don't understand. If you didn't do anything with somebody, then—

Anyways.

Oh no, no, answer the question.

I already told you I never saw him. I already told you I never saw him.

So you mean to tell me you gave a guy from a whole nother state your number.

But you don't know everything about a guy.

Hold up, hold up.

Wait, wait, wait.

That don't make sense. We were not together, so what? Why do I have to tell you any of this? We weren't together. So none of that means nothing.

Oh, so this was all during the time when y'all were not together?

Right.

But Karamo, granted we were not together, but before we came back to the relationship—

He chose honesty. He chose that he wanted to tell everything. Again, we were not together, so I'm not telling you nothing.

I get that. I get that. Hence why it's so hard for me to trust you again.

So I heard you play detective.

Yes.

Okay, tell me about that.

I had like 10 numbers in my phone that I took from her phone. I go to Cash App, I put the number in, and it automatically pops up with the face and the name. So now, so now, and again, again, she's saying that I chose honesty.

You never told me that.

I don't have to tell you nothing.

I'm gonna let y'all know something.

You just exposed me.

I'm gonna expose one of our secrets here that we do. That's how we find a lot of stuff right here. We go through Cash App all the time. There's a number that says unknown, we pop it in the Cash App real quick and a name, a face will pop up and then we cross-reference.

And then again, I get it. You saying I chose honesty, right? But I feel like if I'm coming back to the table after not being in a relationship with you for a year, bearing myself, putting me on the table, Why can't I get that reciprocation?

Again, we were not together. I don't know how many times I have to say that to you, but we were not together. So for you to feel like you had to take numbers and put them in your outside—

We weren't together, but I was still having sex with you though. Can I talk?

No.

No.

No.

So how could I ever get a solution? How could I ever feel like you trust me?

Because there is not gonna be any.

How?

You don't trust me.

Why don't I?

You don't trust me. I put all my trust in you. Whether or not you slept with a Tom, Dick, Harry, Jane Doe or not. We were not together, so if you wanna do that, do you, boo. Do you. But when we get back together, all of that has to go. Which is what I did. And you can't respect that.

I didn't think you—

I didn't, okay.

It wasn't enough.

It's never gonna be enough.

It wasn't enough.

It's never gonna be enough. So when is enough going to be enough?

I don't know, you tell me.

I'm so stuck on stupid for you, who, when do I have time to be with anybody else?

Are you still attracted to her?

Absolutely.

Yeah, right.

Absolutely.

What drove you to the point of breaking up the first time and why tell her mother?

Well, first and foremost, I'm very connected to her mother. My brother dates her sister.

Okay, got it.

So I wanted her to know how serious I was with her. So I said, I'm gonna call your mom.

But my mother.

I'm gonna call your mom. Karamo, listen, it's better than me screaming, yelling, somebody mistakenly push somebody and I'm in jail.

So you could've sat down as a man. We are grown, bro.

You asking me to sit down. You asking me to sit down, but we're sitting down right now and I can't even get a word in. I can't even get a word in. We're sitting down right now, but I can't even get a word in. Can I get a word? A word.

A word. A word.

A word.

Karamo, these women today, they're sneaky, bro. They know how to hide stuff. They know how to hide stuff without anything being found. They know that and y'all know it's true. That's why y'all saying that. Them girl trips, them girl trips to Jamaica and Las Vegas, those ain't really girls trips. Those is hoe trips. Those is what those are.

So.

Karamo. I got. I gave y'all my phone 'cause we need to figure this out today. 'Cause I'm not gonna be dealing with this no longer.

I got it. I got it before I.

At all.

Because I'm about to unlock the phone. I'm about to unlock your phone so that we can get to the clear of this. But I wanna know something because I wrote down here and I want you to see this. I wrote down past trust issues. Has your heart been broken before?

Absolutely.

Did someone break your trust?

Absolutely.

What was your last relationship like before this?

I was cheated on, I was lied to, and I tried to overlook certain situations that I just couldn't overlook anymore. And it just pushed me to be by myself. I never really healed.

I can tell.

You know what I'm saying?

I don't say that like in a rude way, but I can, you know, like I can just—

I never really healed.

But like I said, I love love, so I felt like being around her Her, when we first got together, it was like a breath of fresh air.

Yeah.

You know, I really love her. You know, she made me forget about everything that I was going through.

Got it.

And I love her now.

Got it.

But I'm not stupid.

Got it. Okay.

I'm not doing anything.

Right.

Right is right.

All right, well it's time to unlock the phone. All right, so Alex wanted to search Janiyah's GPS to see if there was any suspicious activity. Janiyah said there is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her GPS and found 2 suspicious pins. She was pinned at 2 different hotels in the state where you live. Alex, you want to know if Janiyah had any social media apps on her phone. She said she deleted them all. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched Janiyah's apps. And she is not telling the truth. She has Snapchat, TikTok, and Twitter download on her phone.

Come on. I'm overreacting though, right?

Absolutely.

Alex wanted to know if Jania was communicating with any other men. She said she is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched Jania's texts and she is not telling the truth. We found over 1,000 interactions With someone named that were deleted from the phone.

No, no, no, no, no.

Okay.

No, no, no.

So let me be clear. We found, Alex, 'cause I need you to be clear on this. We found over 1,000 interactions with deleted from her phone.

Shut up.

Oh, now I gotta shut up?

So is actually a female at my job. Her name is.

So why is it deleted though?

It's not deleted. If it was deleted, how could they find it?

They just said they— Yeah, they were deleted, Tyra.

So what are you talking about?

But anyways. If you click on the message.

It could be anybody.

If you click on that text message.

Like, get outta here. You said it wasn't nothing. Look at that.

Oh my gosh.

There's 2 there, there's 3 there, there's 1,000 there. What are you talking about?

Do we have the GPS and do we have the apps?

Who's the person who I am suspecting her of cheating on me with? And the reason why I say cheating is because even though we wasn't in a relationship, we was still in each other's face. You came to all my performances. We were still sexually active. You was cheating on me, period.

Is there any way that this— Is there any way that this could be—

No, that is a female. And we talk all the time. We actually have a group chat with two other people that he actually had a problem with because it was new numbers from people from my job. Actually, the that he's talking about was with an old phone number on an old phone. Karamo, I have a confession.

Okay.

So before finding out that you guys were cousins, I did sleep with.

And this is the person that you had questions about?

The person I had questions about? This like my cousin.

You wanna know and you asking me who I'm having sex with? I don't know the many people you had sex with. So what's the truth?

Why do I have to ask? When you had sex with [MASKED], you were not together. No. But it was an insecurity of yours.

No, we were not.

If you're broken up in a relationship, that means broken. No communication, no sex, no nothing. She was still sleeping in my bed. She was still in my face. She was still driving my car. And we were still having sex.

In that same bed.

She knew I was having sex though.

Okay, so what? I didn't have you in my bed, in the bed that I was having sex in. You had me in your bed, in the bed that you were having sex with.

It's my house!

Wow, and we not broken up!

So what?

What the fuck matters?

Can I tell y'all something? Can I tell y'all something right now?

You goin' so up and down.

Can I tell y'all something?

Let him talk.

Y'all both said each other, y'all don't have to deal with this. And it's the truth. Y'all don't have to deal with it. Y'all kept saying that.

You don't have to deal with this. You don't have to deal with this.

You don't have to deal with this. You both know right now that this is unhealthy and needs to end. And that's what the truth of this matter is. So are you ready to break up for your breakthrough?

I didn't come here to break up with her. I didn't come here to do that. I just came here to get answers. And this is not what I wanna do, man.

I'm gonna ask you to choose your own sanity. I'm gonna ask you to choose your own mental health. I'm gonna ask you to choose your own heart and sanity, okay? Because at this point, if he doesn't want to break up, that's him. But you know that this is not right.

No, it's not healthy.

What do you wanna do?

I'm not staying in this cycle.

So you're deciding to break up. Listen, it's the healthiest choice for you. Okay?

Wish you the best of luck.

Thank you.