My Girlfriend Lies About Being Gay! | KARAMO

In this episode of KARAMO, host Karamo mediates a volatile confrontation between long‑term partners Naz and Ari. Naz accuses Ari of repeatedly cheating on her with men and challenges Ari to unlock her phone to prove the allegations. The discussion reveals a pattern of secretive behavior: Ari’s phone was frequently set to Do Not Disturb, a TikTok follower named “Papi Chulo” appears in her contacts, and a deep dive into her device uncovers multiple TextNow accounts, 2,559 messages, and JPay transactions to an incarcerated ex‑partner. The episode also delves into Ari’s sexual identity—she claims to be bisexual, while Naz insists she is straight because her infidelities are only with men. Karamo interjects with therapeutic commentary, linking Naz’s attachment to her mother and her tolerance of toxic dynamics to her upbringing. The confrontation escalates as concrete evidence (texts, payment records, a hotel screenshot) is presented, leading Naz to declare the relationship over, though both parties express lingering emotional conflict. The show blends confrontational reality‑TV drama with relationship counseling, raising questions about privacy, trust, and self‑validation in queer‑identified relationships.
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So my guest Naz reached out because she has one question. She needs her girlfriend Ari to answer, do you want to be with men or do you want to be with me? Naz and Ari have been dating on and off for the past 5 years and Naz claims they can never stay together because Ari is always cheating on her with men. Naz wanted us to unlock Ari's phone to discover the truth. Everyone, please welcome Naz to the show. From your perspective, why do you wanna unlock Ari's phone?
It's not why, it's 'cause it's always on do not disturb, you know what I'm saying? I've been with her for like 5 years. So within the 5 years, you know what I'm saying, the phone haven't been on do not disturb. And if y'all know why the phone go on do not disturb, it's because you're hiding something, you know what I'm saying? It's not like you at work. If you at work, your phone could go on do not disturb. But when you with me, why is your phone on do not disturb?
Makes sense. Maybe to play devil's advocate, is there a way that maybe she just wants to show you that she wants to be with you, that she wants to share time with you?
No, absolutely not. It's not about that. Absolutely not.
I'm just playing devil's advocate, trying to get both sides. You know, so you feel like there's something suspicious.
It's something suspicious or you're hiding something.
Got it. Has she cheated on you before in the past?
Absolutely. Multiple times.
Okay. So when did you first start noticing her cheating on you?
It's not when I first, it's actually I caught it and actually she told me, but let me put y'all on. She's not gay, she's not with the LGB community, she's a straight woman and she grew up in a Christian home.
Does she identify as a straight woman?
Yes, she does.
So she says, even though she's been in a 5-year relationship with you, she still says, I am straight.
Yes, 'cause I'm the only female she been with.
Okay, but why not identify as bi? Why not identify as?
I say that, but then I also say, 'cause you know the LGBT community, you can't say that you're bi if you, I'm the only female. She don't go, when she cheats, she don't go to a female, she goes to a man. So I say, don't call yourself bi, you're straight. You know what I'm saying? 'Cause when you cheat, you don't go to a female. If I would cheat, I'm going to a female. I like females, I don't like men. I will go to a female. She goes straight to men, not a female.
So you're telling her to call herself straight? That's what you just said. You just said, I'm telling her to call herself straight.
Yes. Okay. Yes.
So when did you start noticing red flags in your relationship?
We've been together for 5 years. She asked me out, 2 days after I met her. 2 days after that, she comes to my face and tells me, "I'm about to go with my ex," and walks straight out the house.
What do you think happened between her and the TikTok follower?
What I think? I know what happened.
Okay, what happened?
Tell me. So I'm gonna tell you this story. So how I found out was we had a hotel party with a group of friends, you know? We get drunk and you know, we get drunk, everybody fall out. You know, I don't really care. It's my time to lurk. You know what I'm saying? It's my time to lurk. She been acting funny and junk. Drunk, she was acting too sweet that night. And the thing is, we played a game, truth or dare game. One of the questions was, um, Ari, unlock your phone and let's see your text messages. She ain't unlock it. She took 3 shots to the face and she ain't wanna unlock it. So yeah, she went to sleep. I unlocked that phone, but first before I unlocked it, I'm on my phone, her phone was like, it was on do not disturb. So I went to my phone and I went through Facebook, TikTok, Snapchat, and I just went through all her followers and stuff. So then I go to her phone, I take do not disturb off. And y'all know once y'all take Do Not Disturb off, all the messages pop up. I see somebody named Poppy Chulo.
Not Poppy Chulo.
My name not Poppy Chulo.
Okay, not Poppy Chulo.
My name is not Poppy Chulo.
Okay, yeah.
My name is Nas. My name not Poppy Chulo. So I was confused, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So, hey Siri, the phone locked, but you can ask Siri to FaceTime me. The same person that popped up from her TikTok followers is the same man that is on this phone right now as we speak. And he's just telling it all. Like, he's telling it all. I'm like, yo, if this your girl, you gotta come get her, you gotta come get her, bro. Like, you really gotta come get her. So then—
You reacted that calmly when you was on the phone with Papi Chulo?
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Okay.
Yes, sir. So then I wake, so then she wakes up an hour later and I already took a picture of him, you know what I'm saying? So I asked her and I show him like, yo, "you know him?" "No." "You did anything with him?" "No, why you going through my phone?" "How you know he in your phone though if you don't know him?" You know what I'm saying? We had a big argument about that and that was like, broke us off. That broke us off until a couple months later I just axed her out.
[Speaker] So why do you say that Ari doesn't claim you?
[Speaker] She doesn't claim me because, lemme show you. I'm about to show you.
[Speaker] Not single.
[Speaker] S-I-N-G-L-E. [Speaker] Is this on her social media right now? [Speaker] Yes, yes it is. Yes, it is, sir.
So currently she says—
And mind you, I'm blocked off of there.
She's blocked you from social media?
Yes, sir, I'm blocked. Yes, sir.
When did you all get back together?
17 days ago.
17 days ago?
Yeah.
And it still says single?
Yes, sir.
Okay. Well, listen everyone, I want to hear what Ari thinks about all of this situation. So everyone, welcome Ari to the show. Have you cheated on Nas?
Yes.
Okay.
It was one time we first started dating and I wasn't gay. And by the way, I'm bi. You can't tell me what I am or not.
So you dated multiple females?
It don't matter if I date men or female or not, I am bi.
No, you can't be bisexual, bro.
You don't like females.
How you gonna tell me what I can't be? I'm telling you what you can't be, but you're not gonna sleep in, you're gonna lie. You don't like females. But you don't like females.
How you gonna tell me what I don't like?
I lie, girl?
I got a question for you. So why are we only unlocking her phone?
Nobody asked for my phone.
Oh. Why don't you wanna see what's in her phone?
I do.
She never lets me touch her phone.
Mm. Okay, is there anything that you'd wanna see on her phone?
I mean, it's Nas, so I know what to look forward to. She's portraying how she is to you guys, but I know how she is in real life, so.
So you already know she's cheating on you?
Yeah, I've been in that.
So you don't need to see because you know she's cheating?
Oh yeah, I already know.
Okay.
Yeah, she doesn't—
So if I'm cheating on you, why are we together right now then?
Well, listen, Nas wanted me to unlock your phone today, Ari., but specifically only wanted me to look for March 6th when you two got back together. So it's ironic that you didn't ask for like a whole lot of time. You really just wanted March 6th. Right. From then thereon. Are you ready to see what we found?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Are you sure?
Yes, sir. What do you think we found?
I don't know. You're scaring me now. Am I scaring you?
Is there anything that you think that we found in your phone? Yeah. Yes.
Yeah. That from when I first asked you out, that's what you're saying? Yeah. But you just said you was never texting nobody, correct?
I never said that. When did I sit up here and say that?
You said you've been telling me that for the past couple days you haven't been texting nobody. What's up, bro? Please pull it up. It's time to unlock your phone.
Now you really playing. You have 12 TextNow accounts totaling 2,559 messages. And you paid someone in jail on March 16th.
I'm not about to play with this.
Who's it, March 16th?
On me, I'm not.
Who is this?
I mean, it's her ex that I've been talking about. Now, go ahead, keep going, keep going, go ahead, keep going. JPay, so you did make another JPay.
Yeah, you got that.
You did make another JPay, right? So you've been texting him? It's the same one, boo. You've been texting him?
No, I haven't texted anybody.
You've been texting him this month? It's the same one. You've been texting him this month? You've been texting him this month? I haven't talked to him. But it's right there, it's on JPay, bro.
Yeah, I see it.
So this is a problem for you, why?
Because— This is the same person when we first went out, is the same person she came to my face and said, "Yeah, I'm leaving you." She's in love with him. That's why I tell her, "You're not gay and you don't love me if you keep loving your ex, bro." It should be no reason. I don't text none of my exes or tell him I love him, bro. It should be no reason why you keep texting this man and he don't give a fuck about you.
So you paid him on, you gave him some money on March 16th. This is your ex. Can you explain?
No, I just, Paid to write a message back.
Okay. And why did you write a message back?
To say she love him and she miss him and he can't get out.
What did you write?
I just basically was like, how you doing?
Keep your head up. I miss you.
I hope you doing good.
So just for anyone who doesn't understand what JPay is, JPay is an app that for those of us on the outside, we can use to communicate with them, send them monies, put monies on the books. So this is someone that you've been communicating with in jail So that way you could have some type of interaction with them.
So when they get out, they could be together, run into each other's arms and stuff, that type of shit.
Do you wanna be with this person that you were communicating with?
No. I literally just did it to like see if he was good. Like, you good, you straight?
He not checking on you. And when he was out, he was never checking on you, bro.
First of all.
What are you talking about?
First of all.
He was never checking on you when he was outta jail. Okay, no. He wasn't checking on you when he in jail. Let's keep it a stack.
Okay, well let's get back to the unlocking your phone. So when it came to text messages, We went through the phone to see if there was any suspicious text messages between you and anyone else, specifically any men, any women. And when it came to text messages, we found 63 text messages between you and another man starting on March 8th until yesterday.
I'm done, I'm done, I'm done. All right, here's the— I'm done, I'm done, I'm done.
I can walk out that door. You gotta hear the highlights. Here's the highlights.
Oh no, I don't wanna hear it.
You wanna hear the highlights?
I'm good, go ahead. You tell the audience, you have a wonderful day.
You tell them. I need you to see this. Here you go because you need to see this if you really wanna have all the information.
Okay. That's yesterday, right? Yes. Okay, I'm gonna sit back down real quick. I'm gonna sit back down real quick.
So this is what, if you can read it.
Yeah, I can read that. Yo, I'm telling you, I'm not gonna do this. I really can't. This junk say, I wanna see you this weekend. I'll be back Friday for a couple days. Okay, so see me. I'm gonna be rich though. What show you gonna let me find out, babe? Well, since you watching the show, bro God, I'm right here. I'm right here. This who she been with for the past couple of months. I wanna know who is this?
Who is that?
Who is that? Who's been in my bed the past couple of months? Been in my bed. That's why she's right here like that. I don't live with you. I don't live with you. Don't lie.
Don't lie. Keep it a stack.
I do not live with you. Don't lie.
Keep it a stack.
All jokes aside, this is a text message saying that as of—
This is probably true.
You're telling them that you're coming here with your partner and then you're gonna go back.
But we in a relationship and you gonna when you get back. First of all. Damn.
First of all.
Damn, he was about to kiss me too. Damn, can I talk? Can you go back there or something?
We have one last thing. We have a graphic because you rented a hotel. And this is for the 23rd.
Oh, that's for my sister.
So hold on, this is for your sister?
Yeah, her birthday.
Because my unlock the phone investigator is telling me that you sent the screenshot of this hotel to the man we were just texting with.
About.
Yeah, but that hotel room is for my sister.
So, but you got him and you a hotel though, right?
Actually, no, I did not, honey.
Oh Lord.
Can I ask you a question?
Can I ask you a question in all sincerity? And do you wanna take a seat here? Because we already know this is done. We know this is done. We don't have to pretend. I'm not gonna ask y'all if y'all wanna be together. Y'all both know this is toxic.
Yes, and I thank y'all for helping us out. And now I don't gotta move to Houston with this shit.
We can applaud, but I'm actually not convinced. That you won't continue in this relationship?
Oh no, I'm actually pretty good. I'm actually done. This is what I already said. She kept telling me that she wasn't doing anything. Literally out her mouth, kept saying she wasn't doing anything. And I guarantee you this is probably true though.
I'm good. But you have known, but you have known that she has cheated. Yeah. And just like she has known you have cheated.
Yeah.
So why would I be convinced that this is the time that's going to break the relationship?
Because I actually really did have faith in her that she wasn't, that whatever she was doing, That she wasn't doing. But then again, I also had curiosities 'cause the phone was still going on DNA.
But you just got back together a couple weeks ago. I understand that. And I understand you're thinking a restart. You're crying. What's going on?
Yeah, I'm out. I can't do this. It's kind of hard when you don't have nobody to talk to, especially your mom, 'cause that's the person you grew up with. You know what I'm saying? That's the person that know everything about you. I don't have nobody. I don't have no family and I don't have my mom. I only have her.
I appreciate you being vulnerable for me right now. Right now. Because for me, it connects dots of why you believe this relationship is something that you continue to be in. You are a woman that didn't get the validation or love from your mother. You got rejected, you were talked to negatively. You're mimicking the relationship you have with your mother in this. And you found comfort in someone you could be vulnerable with, but then you then allow the relationship to grow into this toxic behavior. Yeah. Do you see that? Mm-hmm. You healing and thinking about, first of all, is your mom's words true? Because you've been grappling with that for your entire life. Am I hitting it on the nail? Talk to me then.
It's not the things she says, like the things that when she gets angry she say. So when she say—
That's the thing she says. Like says a lot. Hold on, you hear what I just said? I said you've been grappling with the things your mom says is true. And then you said no. And he said, "It's only when she gets angry." Yeah. You're a child that's been defending your parent your entire life. When I asked you what's going on with your mom, you started defending her immediately.
'Cause I love her, you know, and I don't wanna like treat her wrong.
I get it, I get it. But see that same things of like, I love my mom even though the relationship is toxic is the same way you just said I love this woman even though things are toxic. Do you see the pattern?
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
So what I'm trying to help you to understand is that you You have to reconcile with yourself if her words are true. And let me tell you, the things that your mother has said to you when she's angry, those words are not true. Those things she said about you are not true because those things that you're believing are true is what's making you believe that you deserve to be in a relationship like this. Mm-hmm. Can you just say to me right now, the things my mother said to me aren't true?
The things my mother said to me are not true.
The things my mama said about me The things my mother said about me are not true.
I'm sorry.
It's okay. It's okay. It's all right.
We're here for you. I'm so sorry. It's all right. It's all right. It's all right.
It's all right.
The things my mother said are not true.
They're not true. This is a first step for you. Mm-hmm. The more that you can practice saying that is the more that you can get to a place where you'll make a better decision in this relationship. Right. I'm taking this moment for you because I do love you. I love you too. Seriously. And I don't wanna see either of y'all hurting. Right. If y'all need my support, I'll be here for y'all. Can you do that?
Yes.
Thank you. Hold up, hold up. Where are you going? I know you wanna watch more Karamo, so click here to subscribe and click here to watch more so we can keep talking and growing, friends. I love you.
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