In this episode of the daytime talk show KARAMO, host Karamo mediates a heated confrontation between DeAndrea, a married woman, and her husband Melvin, after DeAndrea discovers that Melvin has been pursuing a sexual relationship with her twin sister. The discussion begins with DeAndrea recounting how she caught Melvin kissing her sister at a party and how he later denied it. She describes a pattern of infidelity, including finding a condom in her drawer, Melvin’s frequent weekend trips to his mother’s house, and his habit of talking to other women. DeAndrea admits to self‑soothing through heavy drinking and overeating, noting a decline in her self‑esteem. Karamo probes Melvin, who admits to talking to other women and confirms he is “passionately infatuated” with DeAndrea’s twin, even requesting a threesome, citing a desire to experience “twins” and referencing pornography influences. The show then brings in a live “Unlock the Phone” investigation. Evidence from both phones reveals numerous secret messages: DeAndrea’s texts to other men for emotional support, Melvin’s deleted screenshots asking the sister for sex, and over a hundred messages between Melvin and multiple women, including explicit content. Melvin also confesses to sleeping with an ex for two months. Karamo confronts both parties, highlighting the toxic, gaslighting nature of the relationship, the impact on DeAndrea’s self‑esteem, and the incest‑flavored nature of Melvin’s request. He advises DeAndrea to rebuild her self‑esteem, consider ending the marriage, and reconnect with her sister, promising to follow up in a few months. The episode ends with DeAndrea affirming her independence and intent to leave the toxic relationship.
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So girl, you gotta tell me, when you found out your man was interested in your twin sister?
Oh God. We had a party.
Yeah.
Alcohol was involved.
Uh-huh.
I went to the bathroom and I caught 'em kissing.
You caught them kissing?
Yes. And I didn't wanna ruin the party. I didn't. I just—
She was talking about she didn't wanna ruin it. We would've wrecked shop. What, no party? Wasn't gonna be no house? Nothing. Nothing. But I get it. I get it. In the moment, we all react in certain ways. So I understand.
I didn't wanna ruin the party, so I asked him about it. He denied it.
After you saw him?
Yes, denied it. After I saw him.
What'd you say to your sister?
We almost got into it. Clock that, almost got into it. Almost got into it. 'Cause she said that his money ain't long enough, thing ain't long enough, you know.
This is what your twin sister said?
Yes, twin sister.
Okay, what kind of things has Melvin done around your sister?
Shirt off, cooking, cleaning. He don't cook. He don't clean.
But he do what?
So why are you cooking and cleaning while he come around?
Oh. Yeah. What has Melvin asked you to do with your sister?
A threesome.
Oh! Let me tell y'all something. I'm from a different generation. And I'm not gonna judge 'cause I wanna hear Melvin's side of the story. So what reason has Melvin given you for liking your sister and asking for a threesome?
Because she's to that 50 Shades of Grey type of shit.
Oh.
Yes.
Okay.
And I'm not into that. I'm a queen, I like to be nurtured. I don't want nobody choking me, trying to have a, you know, all that type of stuff. No, I'm not doing that.
So what does your sister say about all this? That's what I need to hear.
She said that I don't want him. I mean, his money ain't long enough, his thing ain't long enough. "But you kissed him though." But you kissed him. Yeah, clock that.
And she never gave you an explanation for that kiss?
No, she never.
Okay, so when did you first start to suspect Melvin was cheating? And I'm not just talking about with your sister, period.
I went on a vacation. I came home to the house clean and I found a condom.
Mm.
We don't use condoms.
Yeah.
So why were condoms in my drawer missing?
Mm, mm. And how often does Melvin leave the house at nighttime?
Every other weekend.
Every other weekend. And where did you say you're going?
His mom's house.
Okay. Are y'all married?
Yes, we are.
You're married. Okay, how long you been married for?
3 years now.
Married for 3 years. So after that first year of marriage, that was bliss for you.
Yeah, it was like, he was like the most nice guy. But then when she came, he switched.
Have you, by she?
My twin sister.
Your sister. Okay. Have you ever caught Melvin talking to another woman?
Oh yeah. Got into an argument, y'all. Clock this. He called a woman in my face telling the woman, "Oh, I'm a baby, I'm coming." And she said, "Well, come on like you usually do." So this been happening.
Why are you staying?
I guess love is blind.
Love ain't blind in this case. Love is just, love is dysfunctional. Love is toxic. Love is unhealthy. Would you agree that this is affecting your self-esteem?
It has. I eatin' a lot. I eat a lot.
Yeah.
And I drink a lot. My drinking got heavy, heavier, 'cause I have to have alcohol every day dealing with him.
Yeah.
And I have not done that since before I met him.
Yeah.
So my alcohol has been heavy. Food has been heavy. I just wanna get drunk.
So you're self-soothing to disassociate?
Yeah.
Got it. And this, how long have you been doing that? Self-soothing to dissociate?
Ever since I've been here with him.
So for 6 years? 6 years. So that means that in those beginning years, there was times that it wasn't healthy then?
Yeah.
Okay. Do you ever remember having a healthy relationship?
Yeah.
When?
My 20s. No, 20s.
20s, okay.
Like that.
And at that time you felt confident and beautiful?
Yeah, I felt beautiful and confident.
Do you feel confident and beautiful now?
Kind of, kind of not.
Got it, okay, got it. Was that hard for you to say?
It was, very.
Here you go, love.
You are beautiful.
There you go. So when was the last time you and Melvin had sex?
Ooh, 3 years, I mean not 3 years, 3 months ago.
3 months ago.
3 months ago.
3 months ago, okay. And was there intimacy? Was it like—
'Cause he's liking it, but it's not for me.
You're not liking it?
I'm not liking it.
Do you tell him that you're not enjoying the sex?
Yes.
And what does he say?
He said, "Well, I got mine." Oh, wow.
Got it. Has he ever admitted to cheating?
Yeah, back then. But I was like, forgave him. I was like, "Well, he told me he was a man about it, so I'm gonna forgive him." All right.
Well, you told our Unlock the Phone investigators that you want to know if Melvin has been talking to your sister, if Melvin's talking to any other women, and if Melvin has been messaging any other women, correct? Well, what will happen if you find out today that something is on Melvin's phone?
Oh, I'm done.
You're done? I'm done. I'm done. What is the difference between, hold on, 'cause I gotta ask this question, 'cause it's all nice, we can all clap and say, oh girl, okay great, you got your strength, but girl, we've already seen 6 years. You've said he's broken you down. So what's gonna change today that was different from yesterday when you had this information?
I'm very, very independent now. Back in the day, I depended on him.
But you have independence now?
I got independence now.
Beautiful. Okay then, listen, I think it's time to hear Melvin's side of the story and hear what he has to say about all this. So Melvin, please come on out. Not the slow clap. Not the slow clap. Y'all was like. How y'all doing? How you doing, Melvin?
How you doing?
I'm good. How do you feel about what was just said?
Basically on the basically part, it's just like some half true, half not true. I mean, I like to party or whatever.
Okay.
Have fun, hang out.
Okay, so true or not that you have talked to other women?
Yeah, I talked to other women.
Is it true or not that you have tried to engage with her twin sister?
Yes, it's true. I mean, I like her sister. I mean, I'm passionately infatuated with her sister.
Oh, you obsessed. This ain't no fascinated. You obsessed with her.
I do have feelings for her sister, I do. Me and her sister have a lot in common that me and her that don't have in common.
It ain't a lot. It's just dumb shit. That's not a lot.
Have you told her sister how you feel about her?
Yes, I have.
And what did she say?
Well, her sister just gave me the cold shoulder or whatever, but at the same time, I kind of do know that her sister have feelings for me like I got feelings for her.
So let me ask you this. Okay, this also says—
Y'all sick.
I know that the way that pornography has had access into people's lives, it has gotten people skewed, especially men, when it comes to what intimacy is in sex, and I'm almost sure that you have watched some type of pornography that has informed you that maybe two sisters would wanna have sex with one man. And I'm assuming that's why you would ask two sisters to have sex with you. Do you understand that's incest and you're asking them to be incestual for you?
Yes, I'm the type—
Because you asked them for a threesome.
Yes, yes. I'm the type that like to party or whatever. I like threesomes, I like doing different things.
But there's a difference between wanting to engage in a threesome with two strangers, but you're asking two women, one being your wife, to be in an incestual relationship with her sister. Why would you do that?
Because, I mean, both of 'em look the same to me. They're twin sisters. I mean, I wanna see what twins was about.
This what I mean when I say pornography got people's heads screwed up. Y'all be watching that and think that that's reality.
Yeah, I want to see what it was like.
But let's be real, this is your, 'cause let's be clear, this is your wife you're asking.
Yes, wife. Wife.
But at the same time, I mean, I feel like that she be talking to other men too or whatever because she be on phones and stuff with other men. She be on little apps with other men or whatever.
I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't.
And when I'm not around, she talk to all kind of men too or whatever. So, I feel like it's the same.
So you feel like she's cheating?
I feel like she cheated on me too, so.
Okay then, so you feel like this is tit for tat?
Yeah, I mean, it's not. That is narcissism. With me, I mean, it's not cheating with me.
That's family love.
I just like talking to other females. Females. It's not like cheating.
So why did you get married?
I just like talking.
Why did you marry me if you knew that you was a hoe? Why did you marry me?
It's not like— it's not like that. I'm trying to— I'm not trying to go out and mess with other females. I just like talking and partying. That's all I like to do.
Are you committed to this marriage?
Yes, I'm committed. I'm committed. I love her to death.
No, you're not.
I do. I love her to death.
You heard when you were backstage, she said that her self-esteem Her self-esteem is being affected. How does that make you feel knowing that your wife's self-esteem is being affected?
I mean, I feel bad about it, but at the same time, I know she doing something too, but she acting all Miss Innocent, but I know she's doing something too.
Okay, okay.
I'm not.
Melvin, you told my unlock the phone investigator that you wanted her phone unlocked and you want to know if she's talking to other men, if she is messaging with other men on social media, and if she's she is texting any other men, period. Correct?
Ah, yes.
Yes. All right then. Well, I think it's time to unlock both of y'all phones. DeAndrea, we unlocked your phone. Here we go. All right, Melvin, you wanna know if DeAndrea is talking to any other men. She says she's not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her calls and found she's telling the truth.
I told you. I told you. I told you. Read his, read his.
We gotta keep going with yours. Melvin, you wanna know if Deanondria is messaging with other men on social media. She says she's not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her apps and found she's not telling the truth. We found—
Yes, yeah, yeah, told her.
We found 62 messages between her and 2 other men where she's confiding to them about not having sex with you and your unhealthy relationship.
Yeah.
Thank you.
No, no, no clap. Don't clap. Because I was telling the truth. And I was clocking your teeth. 'Cause you wasn't doing what you supposed to do as a man.
No, man, come on. Come on with that. Come on with that.
All right, Melvin, you wanna know if DeAndria is texting any other men. She says she's not. I unlocked the phone of Esketa to search her texts and found she is not telling the truth. We found 9 messages between her and another man where he was supporting her.
Thank you.
Through your bad relationship.
Thank you.
And she did say at one point, like, I could see myself having feelings and falling in love with you.
Plot twist.
Plot twist.
That's why I was trying to get—
I mean, at the same time— I wanna know these.
Hold on, I wanna say, I wanna be very clear. There was nothing we found in there where she was having sex with any other man, meeting up with any other man. It was more so about finding emotional support.
But at the same time, I mean, but I know she was talking about the relationship at the same time.
I told you, don't let this wig come off.
Don't let my wig come off.
And then again.
Don't let my wig come off.
Come on.
Melvin, we unlocked your phone, so here we go.
Yeah, I'm gonna hit it.
I mean, I'm.
All right, Denondria, you wanna know if Melvin has been talking to your sister. Melvin says he is not. My Lock the Phone investigators searched his photos and found that Melvin is not telling the truth. We found 11 deleted screenshots of Melvin asking her for sex recently.
I know, I knew it, I knew it.
Yeah. You're fucked. Asking her for sex, she's saying no. He's saying, why are you scared? Try to video chat her. Her response is usually like, "Go to sleep, LOL, LOL, go to sleep." He said, "Please can you give me some oral sex?" We are done. Yeah.
We're done.
I mean, it's not nothing like that. I mean, it's really not nothing like that at the end of the day.
He sent her this pornography and said, "Imagine me thinking of you while I go to sleep." That's nasty. All right, you wanna know, all right, Deanadria, you wanna know if Melvin has been talking to other women. He says he is not. My life of a phone investigator searched his texts and found that Melvin is not telling the truth. We found 112 messages between Melvin and multiple women.
Oh, we done.
Look, man, it's not like we are talking to— I'm not talking to—
No, you were completely talking to other women.
Oh, you completely talking to other women.
You weren't getting emotional support, you were talking to other women. All right, DeAndrea, you wanna know if Melvin has been messaging any other women. He says he is not. You can guess what I'm about to say, right?
I know.
We searched his apps and found that Melvin is not telling the truth. We found 116 messages between Melvin and other women, including sexually explicit messages. Explicit photos of himself that he sent to them.
We're done. When we get back home, I'm packing my shit, I'm done.
I mean, it's not like that we had the most, that we had the most.
Hold on, my producer told me you had something to say before the show that they want me to see. Let me take a listen. What did you have to say before the show?
DeNadra, I have a confession to make. I've been sleeping with my ex for the last 2 months. Oh man, no, come on. I mean, it's not nothing like that. I mean, we was like just—
You deserve that. Take him off the stage. Take him off the stage.
Are you serious?
Are you serious? Now, it's very funny. I don't condone violence. I literally do not condone it. If that would happen anywhere else, but when I just heard that, I want to jump up and— He is He is disgusting. He is less than a man. I mean, the fact that he's, I mean, one thing to cheat, but trying to engage. Your sister didn't respond to it, by the way. In every message, you'll see the message. She just, she's saying LOL. So you do know that, okay. She's saying like, LOL, no, go to sleep. She's like trying to like, whatever. But the fact that he continuously is texting her those type of things. And I'm glad that you said that you have the independence now. I really do. Because all this man is gonna do is keep breaking you down and he's gonna keep gaslighting you and keep doing things. He's not worth it. He's not worth it. What you deserve is to rebuild your self-esteem, to get back to loving yourself, to reconnect with your sister. It sounds like there's possibility you can. It sound like she messed up once, but it doesn't look like she re-engaged. And so she should probably apologize. Y'all mend that, but then y'all can move forward. But it's time for you to start getting out of this toxic relationship. 'Cause Lord knows anybody who wants to be with your sister should not be your mister, okay?
[Speaker] Right.
[APPLAUSE] [Speaker] So please, I'm gonna check up on you in a couple months. And when I check up on you, you better be out that house. You better not be talking to him.
I am.
And you better be saying, Karamo, give me some advice so I can rebuild this relationship with my sister.
