My Husband's A Cheater, And So Am I! | KARAMO

Candace and Henry have been married ten years and both admit to cheating multiple times. Candace claims Henry cheated with eight women including a family member; Henry says Candace cheated with four men. Phone forensics reveal Candace lied about texting other men, while Henry's claims about contacting a family member don't check out.
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So Candace, I gotta ask you just point blank, how often has he cheated on you?
Oh, that I know of, I wanna say about 5 times.
5 times. 5 times.
Unfortunately.
And so why are you convinced that he's cheating on you with a family member?
Just they, by them being in cahoots, I mean it's just the things that has happened over the years.
Oh, lemme see, I got a little timeline here.
Oh.
You got a timeline? Lemme see it.
Oh, but I love when a messy producer just put, he cheated, he cheated, he cheated, he cheated, he cheated. My producer be nasty for that.
That part, let me tell you.
So 2018.
2018 is when I first realized that he ever done anything. He was up there walking down the street, coming from work with a lunch bag, called me to come pick him up. And I said, you smell like a woman. He got in the car like, you smell just like a woman. He claimed that he ain't cheat, but he did, 'cause I ended up seeing the pictures and the scratches on his back, so. That's clarified. 2019, I felt like he cheated too, which he did with a couple of women.
A couple?
Yes, between 2019, sorry, and 2024, it was like 3 women.
Okay.
Obviously this year I felt like it was with my family member, which is sad to say, but yeah, the proof is in the pudding right there.
So you got about like almost 8 women, almost 10 women that you saying that he cheated with?
That I know of. I don't know all of 'em, but Name by name or verbatim, but yes, it's sad because we married and this ain't no joke.
How long y'all been married?
10 years this year.
10 years. Okay then. So let's get to this phone 'cause I like to unlock phones here. So is he sick of his phone?
We both are. We a little messy.
Okay.
You know, I ain't even gonna stunt.
Okay.
When he lock it, I lock it. You lead, I follow. You cheat, I cheat.
Oh, we all clocked that, right? All right, okay. She said, okay. So what do you need from him to feel secure in this marriage?
I need my husband to be honest. And to stop living a life like he's single, like date me.
Got it. Okay then. And when do you feel like that he stopped dating you?
2020.
2020. So during the pandemic you feel like the dating stopped?
Yeah.
Like he stopped courting you?
Yeah.
Okay then. So about 5 years ago?
Yeah.
Understand. You said he cheats on you, so you cheat. Don't think I missed that. How many times have you cheated?
Probably like 3.
3? You said probably like.
I mean, you gonna count the times with one person. Like you can't, that's just, if I'm cheating with one person and I had sex with 'em more than once, that's still one time.
Oh, okay. So we clear. Ooh, I love girl math. Let me tell you something, I love girl math. She said, she said, well, if it's the same person, Any person, it's really just, you know, that's why it's just one. Okay, okay, I got you. Okay, so why did you move out for 2 months?
Hmm, 'cause my husband wasn't coming home.
Okay.
And he definitely was cheating.
And how long ago was this?
This was in 2023.
2023, okay. And then when you moved out, who'd you move with?
Oh, when they say the grass ain't greener on the other side, it really not. It was a bad move I did. Shouldn't have been doing it at all. It was this guy. He had tattoos and all of that, you know, like one of them.
What you gotta say about guys with tattoos? Hold on, you see I'm sleeved up and all over my neck.
You was tattooed up.
What you gotta say about dudes with tattoos?
I mean, he just caught my eye like, what's popping? And we—
You trying to say we toxic?
Y'all can be for sure. That part.
Okay.
So you moved in with another man during that time?
He moved in with me. I got my apartment and I ain't had nothing but my bedroom bought my own suit, clothes and stuff, got me new furniture and everything like that. But this guy ended up going to jail, so me and my husband was talking. He done had a chick move into our crib.
Your husband had?
Yeah, the chick he was messing with at the time. And so we was talking, you know, wanting to get back with each other. So we ditched the people we was with and we got back together and I moved back home.
Okay. Well, listen, I think it's time to hear Henry's side of the story. So everyone, please welcome Henry to the show. What's up, Henry? Nice to meet you, sir.
Nice to meet you.
Thank you for being here. Okay, so how often has she cheated on you?
Well, what she was saying is not the truth. It's not just one person.
Okay.
So it can't be just with one person a few times. It's been at least 4.
At least 4 different men?
Yeah, at least 4 that I know of.
4 people?
Yeah.
Nah.
At least 4. You got 2.
Don't tell her husband.
Well, you said probably 3, so 4 ain't that far.
She forgot to count on the other hand, I guess.
Ain't no other hand, it's only, quit playing.
It's only 4.
No, I said probably 3.
Well, I just heard the Freudian slip of probably 4.
No, my husband said it was 4. I said it was probably 3.
At least 4 that I know of.
Why would this cat get 3? Why we always gotta add the probably? We're playing. Okay, I'm gonna ask you directly because I know this is the one that's really affecting her. Have you cheated on her with a family member?
No, I did not.
You did not, okay. No, I did not. Clear about that. And when was the last time you were in contact with this family member?
The last time we went over for dinner and a movie.
Okay, okay.
Do you think I want you to mess with a family member of mine?
I would never.
Well, I don't know.
So you're saying you would never either?
I would never.
Okay then.
And I'm not sure if she messed with a family man.
Well, let me ask you this. What are the reasons you cheated before?
Just feeling like I don't have a voice. Like she don't listen to nothing that I say. And it's just like, damn if I do, damn if I don't. The invite don't be all the way there all the time.
Because when you messing with other women, the invite ain't gonna be there.
Oh, okay.
When you not at home, like what do you mean? Don't do that to me.
Do you fight a lot from your point of view?
Don't do that to me.
Yeah, we do.
You fight a lot?
Too much for a married couple.
Did she bust your lip?
Yeah.
She did.
Have you hit me before?
Yeah. Have you broke a bottle on my head?
Are you serious?
So why do you believe that she is currently cheating?
Because she got messages in her phone that I found.
Okay.
That's old. I think, no, it's not old.
You think I'm currently cheating on your husband?
You just stopped over the dude that you let move in with you to see how he was doing.
This was—
How many times did you step out since we've been back together?
What you mean how many times I stepped out?
You stepped out with somebody when we got back together. Yeah, and that's when I stepped out. And when the time that she said I was over this family member's house, I was honest and truthful when I told her I wasn't there over that family member's house. I never been over there by myself. I told her where I was and I was at another woman's house.
Lies.
Do you wanna save this marriage?
I do.
You do wanna save this marriage? I really do. What about this marriage do you love so much that you wanna save?
I just love her.
You love her? Oh, that's a beautiful thing. I love her. Candace, I'm gonna ask you the same question. Do you wanna save this marriage?
Absolutely. I love my husband. I pray for him.
Yeah, okay. What are you willing to do to make it work?
Be honest and open. We came here to be transparent and just put it all out there on the line. Just start a new chapter in our life. We reaching 10 years of marriage and I don't want to keep having this feeling or making him feel any kind of way. And I don't want him to feel no type of way towards me.
Got it. Okay. Well, the first way to get that transparency so y'all can be open and honest is to unlock the phones. So it's time to unlock the phones. We unlocked your phone first. All right, Henry, you want to know if Candace is calling other men. She says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her calls and found that Candace is telling the truth. Henry, you want to know if Candace is texting other men. She says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her texts and found that Candace Candace is telling the truth.
I don't text nobody.
Remember on our show, we also, we look at deleted and present, okay? Henry, you want to know if Candace is messaging men on social media. She says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her phone and found that Candace is not telling the truth. My investigator found the exact two things that Henry had found when he went through your phone. Henry brought up the screenshots and wants an explanation. So these are the things that you said you found as well. What's the explanation you got?
Okay.
That's not an explanation.
Okay, so. This person was when I had cheated on you and I told you that he wasn't nobody. He wasn't a nobody.
Okay.
He wasn't nobody.
So this is somebody you already talked about that you cheated with?
Yeah, this person, like that's when I had went when you was doing the yard work and I went to his family member's house to see if he was there, but he wasn't there. And I haven't spoke to him. So.
Well, there's one more thing that Candace, you did confess to my producers that when you're gonna go play cards, I guess you think she's going with her girlfriends and she's actually saying she's playing cards with another man.
That time you told me, you asked me.
You already knew it.
But I didn't mess with him, babe. I just played cards with him and his family. I swear to God I didn't sleep with him.
She playing with my top. Well, at least, listen, she said honest and transparency. So this is where we're trying, we're saying like everything be honest right now. Seems right now everything's coming out honest. So, all right, here we go. You got your answers for that. You know now.
Mm-hmm.
All right, so Henry, it's time to unlock your phone. Candus, you want to know if Henry was at your family member's house on June 28th. He says he was not. When I unlocked the phone, investigators searched his GPS and found that Henry is telling the truth. Candace, you wanna know if Henry is texting 3 specific women. He says he is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his texts and found that Henry is telling the truth. Candace, you wanna know if Henry is contacting women on social media. He says he is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his apps and found that Henry is not telling the truth. There were 45 app interactions. We found 11 deleted DMs from Facebook between Henry and a woman named [MASKED] between April and June. [MASKED] sent Henry money 6 times. Oh, you smiling for that one. And yeah, totaling $167. Then from 2023 to 2024, there are 18 transfers of money between Henry and [MASKED] totaling $465. But this is the big thing. Last time he communicated with your family member was on July 1st. Now you asked us to search specific timeframe this year, but we discovered 10 missed Facebook calls between Henry and your family member in 2024 from April 16th to April 18th. So there was no answer on these. But I will tell you this, we also searched all messages and there was never any messages between him and this family member at all. So we have no GPS and no messages and also missed FaceTime calls. So if there was anything nefarious happening, it wasn't on his side. So nothing has happened from there. I'm saying you said you've had a feeling about this family member, so I can't say what you're sensing with them, but I'm telling you from this point, he was not doing anything. He was not at their house. He was not communicating with them.
Well, that's good to know. I'm sorry and I wanna apologize to you for saying that because I felt like you was.
Okay.
And I do apologize. Deeply in my heart and I hope that you forgive me.
[Speaker:KARAMO] All right, I got some advice for y'all and this is real because I see that y'all wanna save this marriage. I see that y'all want to be in this. You're about to come up on your 10-year. You said earlier, I don't feel I want the invite. Not you, you. And when you said that, I wrote that down and I drew a line if you could see this because you said he doesn't date me and she says she doesn't give me a voice. Those are both invitations and you're both asking for the same thing. You're asking for an invitation to hear my feeling. And so the reason I pulled out that word invite is because I'm trying to give you a first step that you all can use to say when we are at home and you start feeling like I don't have a voice, you say, invite me. I'm inviting you in to hear me, invite me in to listen. And then if you feel like you're not getting the dates you want, you say, invite me with you, invite me into your life. This key word will be the first step in you all actually listening, being heard, and you feeling like your man is stepping up for you. Okay? But now I got another piece of advice. And this is only for y'all. So nobody at home, don't take this advice. Be in an open relationship. Now hear me out. You two have clearly cheated on each other, been in each other's relationships, know about them, and are allowing it to continue on. If you all would've be adults and set boundaries around what that would look like, all these other arguments and fights, would stop. And let me tell you this, the reason I'm giving you directly this advice is because for 13 years y'all already been doing it and you're not leaving, which means both of y'all are like, okay, well I can forgive that, I can forgive that, I can move on for that. What's bothering y'all is the dishonesty, not the sex. So if the sex is not bothering y'all, then that means y'all need to have a conversation about how we can communicate honestly about when I'm going to have sex with someone else.
I ain't about to say. Yeah, I ain't about to. We ain't about to be having sex with nobody else.
Okay, so you can continue. So let me tell y'all something. The reason that I know I'm good at what I do is because I follow the facts. I follow facts. You don't want it, but you're already in an open relationship. So either you're going to make the choice to say, let's communicate honestly, or you gonna be busting him across his lip again and he gonna be doing something to you. I've been tracking the pattern. I would not give this advice to somebody else who said, you know what, he cheated once and I was mad and I moved out. You said this is what we do. So if you wanna stop and y'all don't wanna do it, great, I support it, don't cheat. But if one of y'all end up cheating, I need y'all to remember this moment and say, before you fight, say, let's just be honest.
Right.
Because again, if you came here for honest, open and transparency. I'm trying to give you the tools to do that. So the first thing, invite each other in. And secondly, set new boundaries in your relationship. I promise y'all, you do those two things, y'all make it to another 10 years.
Understood.
All right.
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