My Man Is Texting 39 DIFFERENT Women Then Changed His Password! | KARAMO

All right, so what made you wanna go through Crystal's phone in the first place?

Basically, we was on a little split. Okay. He ended up losing his phone and we had to do the Find My Phone. He called me from his work phone and was like, "Track my phone." Okay. "Because I think I left it in the Lyft." So I tracked the phone and it ended up being at an apartment complex. So I went there, got the phone. The manager said that the maintenance guy had found it in the parking lot. So I took the phone. I don't know if it was my woman's intuition, my inner voice. Go through the phone.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, for him to show up in a parking lot of an apartment complex, apparently y'all don't stay in.

We don't stay in apartment complexes, but I wasn't too on it only because his homeboys stay over there, like his friends stay over there.

Okay, so his friends stay over there. Okay, so maybe. But then, so your intuition said go through it, and that's when?

I found the text messages. It was like 39 women. I did write 'em down. I wrote the names down, the numbers down, everything. I contacted mostly all of 'em, but I ended up only talking to 2.

Okay.

The first one, the young lady, she was telling me things I didn't even know about myself. He took her out to eat, was telling me how he sat down, told about our relationship and—

So he telling these girls about you?

That's what I'm getting from it, yeah. So I was mad. I went to his job and we was exchanging words. It didn't get heated 'cause he was like, I'm on my job, I'm gonna lose my job. I didn't want him to lose his job, so I left. But we gonna continue this conversation.

Yes, of course.

It ain't over. So we finally talked when he got home, we finally talked. And he denied it for the longest.

Even though he know you talked to the girl?

Yeah. He told me, "Yeah, we went out to eat, but I didn't tell her all that. I wasn't talking to her about you and all that." But I knew he did because she was too detailed.

Too detailed, yeah.

So Karamo, if he don't get it together, he gonna have to get gone.

So was there a video? That makes sense. So was there a video and what was of the video of?

Yes, I actually found a video. The video was of him and another young lady. Been intimate or anything. They was in her room. She was sitting on her bed talking and he was sitting across from her talking. But at some point in the video, he got up and I seen his hand go onto her and then the video ended.

So how did he explain the video?

He really didn't explain the video. He was just like, we was over there talking, you know, it didn't nothing happen. We weren't intimate or anything.

I was conversating with other women at the time.

A lot of women at the time.

But we was going through a lot of things at that time.

We were. Like what?

Just fussing about different financial things, trust, different like in the house things.

Got it. Everyday, day-to-day couple things. Yeah. Learning each other.

Yeah.

Okay.

I didn't never learn.

It was mainly the trust, I think. I was done.

You think? Yeah.

It would be the trust for us.

But the trust issues got broken from him or?

From me.

Because it was 2 months in.

2 months in.

That you sent the text you said. Okay. So once she did that 2 months in, text the guy, even though nothing happened, that broke your trust?

Yeah, it did 'cause at the time, you know, I was smitten by her when I first met her. And I was like—

I was intrigued by you as well. I never went out to no club. That was my first time ever going anywhere like that.

Is there an age difference between y'all?

Yes.

Yeah.

Well, how much?

I think he's 11. 10 or 11.

Yeah. Okay.

Yeah.

So do you feel like she's still being sneaky since that's what broke the trust issues in the beginning?

Somewhat. Like, you know, she be on her phone a lot. She have her back turned.

I have my back turned, but I don't be like, I'm sneaking on the phone. Yeah. It's the way our bed is positioned. So I'll be sitting on side the bed. I don't know.

Okay.

'Cause she be carrying that phone everywhere.

But I'm also confused about that.

But you know the password to my phone. I don't have no password. I have no problem puttin' my password in front of you. I tell you, babe, go on my phone, do this, you need to get in my phone, put the password in.

But you don't know the password to his.

No, and when I did finally figure out the password to his phone.

Oh, you had to figure it out though?

'Cause I seen him puttin' it in one day, and I'm like, I got your ass now. I know that password. So I went, I'm sorry, he went and got in the shower, and he left the phone on the bed, I went through the phone and that's when I seen a text message from a young lady he stated that he met at a store. He was just getting her information to promote what he do. He, you know, he's bringing his business up.

So this is after the 39 women?

This was after that.

Wow. So then, Chris, let's be real.

But he changed it right after that. He changed the password again.

So you changed the password again? So you say that she gave you the mistrust in the beginning, but then you did 39 women She clearly forgave you and you stayed together and then she finds another woman and you change the password.

So how would you feel?

Yeah, so the trust issue seems like it's come from your end.

Well, I wouldn't say that because it really was innocent.

He said it was innocent on his part. I don't know.

That one was innocent.

Okay, I get if it's innocent, but why change the password?

Why don't I know your password still now to this day?

If she's giving you her password, And your main issue is trust. To rebuild the trust, there has to be transparency. Trust and transparency go hand in hand. So why not be transparent with her and say, well, here's my password. I've told you there's nothing going on. You can look at it again later.

I mean, that's why I came here today. To prove you wrong.

Okay. I gotta back up a little bit 'cause you said 39 women. 39 women. How you manage that? How much time you got? Were you cutting and pasting the same message to each woman? I don't understand how you—

I wouldn't say that, 'cause a couple of numbers had already been in there. It wasn't like they were like—

He just don't save 'em, so I don't know where they went.

I don't save 'em.

Like they just numbers.

In the phone.

But I also had a friend guy named, I mean, his number in the phone, and you thought it was a woman I was talking to because you looked at the timestamp, it had 2 hours, and you was like, oh, you can't talk to no man for no 2 hours.

It ain't had no name.

Why not?

That's my best friend. You can talk to a man for 2 hours. Why his name not in your phone if that's your best friend? I can't tell you.

But it's a lot of numbers in the phone that are close friends.

Save 'em. Save 'em.

I might not save all of them.

If you got a female close friend, I need to know her.

Okay.

If you got a female close friend. At the end of the day, it's still 38 women and 1 man.

39.

Well, 38, based by what he's saying, it could be 38 and 1 guy.

1 guy.

His best friend. Right. But still, that's still a lot. Well, I think it's time to unlock the phone.

Unlock the phone.

Christopher, before I unlock this phone, is there anything you worried about? No. Anything you wanna talk about? No.

Okay, good.

He's confident.

She's confident.

He's confident. All right, well, let's get to it.

All right.

Well, Dominique, you want to know if Christopher has been texting with any other women. Christopher says he has not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his text messages texts and found that Christopher is telling the truth.

That's it.

Dominique, you want to know if Christopher has any explicit photos of other women. Christopher says he does not. My unlock the phone investigators searched through his photos and found that he is telling the truth. That's cool, that's cool. I'm saying, look, bro, Dominique wants to know if Christopher is messaging women on DMs like TikTok.

That we ain't supposed to have.

That we not supposed to have. Christopher says he is not.

Even though she had it first and didn't tell me about it.

Go ahead, Mr. Karamo. Christopher said he is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his DMs and found Christopher is telling the truth. Now my unlock the phone investigator then searched Christopher's apps and found that Christopher, you have 4 separate phone cleaning apps. And my phone investigator said he's never seen anyone with that many downloaded on their phone before. So if you don't know what phone cleaning apps are, this is where it swipes everything 1, 2, 3, 4 times over so that we would not be able to find anything. Why you got 4 cleaning apps on your phone? I didn't know nothing about the cleaning apps.

Different websites have viruses. So when the virus come up, it's there.

But you can do the viruses apps.

Yeah.

You did the ones that are cleaning your phone, so it cleans your messages, cleans your photos.

Everything, the messages, the pictures, right? Everything, all that.

So why did those? Why do those?

Especially if you ain't got nothing to hide. If you ain't got nothing to hide, you shouldn't have that many apps. 4? So it was 4? 4.

4 cleaning apps.

Wow.

So why 4 cleaning apps though?

So what you had to erase? What was that?

I mean, every time I go to a website, certain website has an antivirus and it requests you—

So you downloaded an app to clean it?

It tells you what apps to pick to clean the phone, clean space off the phone.

That's it. So I'm gonna be honest with you. When I saw that you had 4 cleaning apps, I told my producers I wanted to reach out to the 39 women that you had reached out to because I wanted to find out stuff. So we got the phone numbers and it was a fun little morning for me. I mean, the other day. 'Cause I started calling through with him 'cause I thought it would be fun. And there was one that I thought was really interesting by the name of [MASKED]. And I invited [MASKED] here today.

Oh wow.

Is there anything you would like to say before I bring— Is there anything you'd like to tell Dominique before we bring [MASKED] out?

No.

You sure?

I'm sure.

You sure about this?

Sure, sure.

What is your relationship?

What is your relationship?

Who was it?

It was somebody at the time we was in the break I had conversated with.

And what were those conversations about?

You didn't tell me nothing about.

Yes, you did, 'cause you talked to her on the phone.

The one you took the walk on?

Yes. What's going on with you and your wife?

The one he took to dinner. Oh, the one that had the baby? Yeah, the one that was telling me more about myself than me.

Do you still have feelings for her? No. Never?

I never really did. It was just, Mm-hmm.

It was just—

It was just what?

I mean, I did—

What the fuck, Karamo?

I wanna know. I wanna know.

I was just going through something.

When was the last time you spoke with her?

Ever since she talked to her, that was it.

That was the last time?

Yeah. That was over a year ago.

Yeah.

Was it?

So there's no communication from you? Not at all. Okay.

Not at all.

I don't believe that.

Okay. I'm gonna tell you, I didn't have a not here, y'all. I would be a mess. I told you.

I told you. You was finna get your. I told you. You believe them. You choosing him over me?

I'm glad you passed that test. 'Cause I was gonna find something out for you. But I do think it's suspicious though that you do have the apps that show that you've been deleting stuff.

I admit that, but it's nothing for the stuff she think it is.

I got it. But see, the problem is, and this is all serious now, now I've been a little messy, we gotta get to the real of it, is at the end of the day, communication transparency in this relationship is broken. And the only thing that's going to rebuild is if you then do those things. And by you having apps on your phone where you are deleting stuff, where you're not able to give her your password, where you're doing these type of things, all it does is just re-triggers the issues that y'all are having.

And it doesn't make me feel secure.

It doesn't make her feel secure.

You right.

Why can't you give your woman the transparency she needs?

I can. That's why I'm here.

To talk to her.

I love you.

I love you too.

Today is a special day for us because it's our anniversary.

And I'm very thankful that we ain't fighting on the anniversary, even though.

Right.

I was searching though. I ain't going to fuck you in here. I'm fucking you in here, right?

I was going to jail.

I was going to run off the stage.

Okay, I ain't want it.

I was going to run.

Will you give her your password and not change it on your phone?

Yes.

You will?

Yeah, I will.

Tell her.

I will give you my password.

And don't change it.

All right.

And not change it because that's the biggest thing. And as well, the deleting apps, the phone cleaning apps that you have, you gotta leave those out.

Okay.

Because the thing is that having the password but having those apps on just shows her that like, oh, the minute she get your phone, it's gonna get deleted anyway.

Right, right.

So there has to be actions now.

Okay.

Now she can be able to say to you, okay, I can start to trust you because I know you're not doing anything. I know.

'Cause I want to, I want to trust him.

Yeah, totally.

I want to trust you. I don't want to accuse you of something that you're not doing and that I, in the back of my mind, know you're not doing, but it's still that insecurity in me.

And I understand that me having those apps does raise a red flag.

Mm-hmm.

But on the flip side as well, I think it's, important because as a man, I don't think there's enough times we let men make sure that their feelings and their things are heard.

Yes, and that's my thing with him. Like, but I ask him all the time, "Babe, what's wrong?" Like, I see him looking down, "What's wrong? Talk to me, tell me." So why do you feel like you can't hold on to that?

When I talk to her and she hears something she doesn't like, she gets mad. And when she get mad—

That's a problem, I do.

When she get mad—

'Cause when I get mad—

She get loud.

I don't respond well at all, but—

But see, that's a— That's work you gotta do. Because otherwise it's gonna be a cycle now where he's gonna keep shutting down, he's not gonna be transparent, you're gonna still keep feeling insecure, you're gonna feel like my man's still doing something and we're gonna be in this continuous cycle where y'all are not there for each other, hearing each other or being there for each other. And it's gonna break y'all down eventually.

And I don't want that. That's not something that I want. 'Cause I wanna be with him, I wanna spend the rest of my life too.

Tell him, tell him.

I love you, I wanna spend the rest of my life with you. I wanna spend the rest of my life with you.

And I wanna spend the rest of my life with you.

You gotta put— I don't have nothing on my hand.

So yeah, so—

Tell 'em, y'all, it's been 5 years. I ain't got nothing on my hand.

If y'all can work on these things, then maybe in a year or so, y'all can get to engagement. And then in 2 years, I can come get officiated. Hell yeah, you can do it here. I've been begging people on this show to let me marry them. I got ordained because I want somebody to let me marry them. I'm there. OK.

Done. We got it.

We got it. Y'all so much fun.