In this episode of Karamó, host Karamó mediates a volatile confrontation between Regina (the mother) and her daughter Ashley. The dialogue spirals around accusations of emotional neglect, financial exploitation, and alleged physical abuse of Ashley’s child by Regina. Regina repeatedly refuses to acknowledge past wrongdoing, dismisses Ashley’s pleas for an apology, and claims she has supported Ashley by caring for her children while they moved between Ohio, Detroit, and Florida. Ashley counters with claims that Regina has harmed her grandchild, failed to provide promised financial help, and perpetuated intergenerational trauma stemming from Regina’s own abusive upbringing. The conversation highlights themes of accountability, the cost of caregiving, financial dependency, and the lingering impact of childhood abuse on family dynamics. Karamó attempts to clarify points, ask probing questions, and keep the discussion on track, but both participants remain entrenched in their positions, leading to an unresolved, emotionally charged exchange.
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So you said that your daughter's dead to you and you don't care. Do you really mean that?
I mean it. She just killed that relationship. She killed it all.
What did she say that would kill that relationship?
All that old shit. Girl, please.
So just because she was talking about the past.
I don't care. She ain't have to vent like that. We could've talked about this.
And we did. No, we didn't. So don't sit there and lie. You didn't cuss me out in front of my aunt on the phone and told me what you just said now?
I don't give a fuck about the past.
And what still? You still say fuck the past, Ashley. Exactly, you never apologized or take accountability. And I'm not, I'm not.
She don't care. I'm not. She don't care. And I don't, believe that, I don't.
So how do you expect for someone to think that you love them when they don't take accountability for nothing? You don't take accountability for nothing. You never said, Ashley, if you feel a certain way, I'm sorry I made you feel less than a child or less than a mother. You don't treat me like a mother, you don't treat me like an adult.
'Cause you act like one. Can I ask you this, Regina? I understand that for you, the past is not important, but if she's saying it's important to her, why aren't you able just to say, "I apologize," and—
'Cause I'm not, and it's over with, and I'm not apologizing for shit. Never have and never will. And she's not. And I'm not. And she means it. And I mean it.
I know that my producers told me that recently you've helped your daughter.
You've been helping her?
A lot. I does everything. I kept her kids while she ran around. From Ohio to Detroit.
Shut up, I'm talking. Is that me talking?
She left, went to Ohio. Then she went to Detroit. Then she ended up in Florida. Who had her kids? I did.
And you choke slammed my baby and I brought my baby daddy in. Exactly.
I was stressed out.
So you harm your grandkid 'cause you're stressed out?
Whatever. Like I said, you did.
And that's fine.
That's fine.
Do you feel like Ashley appreciates you?
Nope. How?
When I still was sending you money. I even made sure you were straight for months.
Stop, stop. Please, let's stop the lies.
I just paid for your car when I got back for the tires. You paid me for living in my house, which you should have done. I paid for your car to get bills.
I have bills.
You ain't got no bills. And I had to feed you.
I don't give a damn what you talking about.
It doesn't matter.
I don't give a damn what you talking about 'cause I done had your back.
When? It's at a cost. You tell people you keep my kids, I have to pay you. I ain't never known about that. Yeah, when you running to a club. I ain't never, I don't need a club. Why are you lying? When do I go to the club? And if you working, hell yeah, you gotta pay me.
My time ain't free.
So I wanna know, Regina, I know you accepted to come on the show today.
What was it? If I had knew she was gonna do all this, I wouldn't have came. I'm just telling you. I'm about to walk off in a minute.
What was it and why don't you want to anymore?
I'm done.
Okay.
And why? I'm done.
She can't explain to you why she let them men say that to me. She can't explain to you why that man— I can't stop nobody from what they say to you. I wasn't there. But you didn't do nothing about it either. What the fuck you want me to do? You been whooping their ass, whoop they ass again. Bitch, you sound stupid. See what I'm saying? Grown man say that to your child.
Whatever, you shouldn't have been in there fucking with him.
He was messing with us and you know that's a lie.
Ashley, bye.
I understand that you wanna ask your mother something. What did you wanna ask your mom?
Like, do she really love me? Because if you tell somebody you don't give a fuck about them and you show them.
I ain't never went through all this. My mama, hey, I love my mama.
My grandma ain't never talked to you like you talk to me.
My mama used to call me bitches 24/7.
You think because your mama I called you bitches, it's okay to call you. That's where childhood trauma come from. She spin around in a circle at my auntie house telling my grandma, you don't love me, but I'm bringing up the past. So obviously you got issues from your past where you feel my grandma don't love you.
No, my mama love me.
Okay, so why you told her she didn't at my auntie house when you spin around in a circle crying? Talking about you don't love me, you don't love me, and you don't love me.
I meant everybody in the house. I was talking to everybody. My mama wasn't even in the conversation, so.
Yes, she was.
No, she wasn't.
Now you're lying.
No, she wasn't. Okay.
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