“My Psychic Said It Would Be In The Apps!” | KARAMO

All right, our guest Tiffany looks through her boyfriend's phone every single day and she says lately it has been looking a little too clean to her. She said too clean.

Hmm.

She feels the only way she will trust him is if we unlock his phone. Everyone, please welcome Tiffany to the show. Hi Tiffany. Hi. How are you doing?

I'm good, how are you?

Good, may I have a hug?

Yeah, of course.

Nice to meet you. Okay, so I heard you say You say that you looked through your man's phone, but right now it's looking a little too clean for you.

It is looking too clean for me.

What does that mean?

Well, when I met him, there was a lot of activity going on in that phone.

Got it.

And I started busting and finding things that I wasn't comfortable with finding.

So that's why you don't trust him?

Yeah, and then there's some things that happened and just— What is? In the beginning, there was another woman involved and I didn't know about her. She didn't know about me. But every day that I met him, I said, "Look, do you have someone you're involved with?" And he said, "No, you know, there's nothing going on." And so we would see each other every Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. And so things start getting shady. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, sometimes disappearing. I didn't hear from him. And so I said, "What happened?" "Oh, water went through my phone." I said, "But it works on Monday when it's time for you to go to work." So.

[Speaker:KARAMO] And it's because he was with this other woman?

[Speaker] Yeah, yeah.

[Speaker] So how long did it take you into the relationship to find out that he's with this other woman?

2 and a half months. It's just like something my gut feeling said, let me see your phone. And I found old messages from those times that was disappearing from her.

So then why didn't you leave the relationship at that? They're 2 months in, you're not together a long time. What was it that made you stay?

He told me, oh, this was the beginning stage. Now where I'm at now in the relationship, I'll never do that again. So I believed it and I, you know, and put my trust into that. Like, okay, maybe that was the beginning.

How long ago did you meet him?

I met him 13 months ago.

13 months ago. So it's a relatively new relationship.

Yeah.

Beautiful couple.

Thank you.

So how did you meet him?

We met online on an online dating app.

Okay.

But then he went back on Tinder and I found that the app was deleted.

He deleted and then put it back on.

Exactly.

And did he delete it again?

Yes.

So he deleted it again to prove to you that he could be honest.

Exactly.

Okay.

Exactly.

Do you believe him?

I don't know.

Does he run away from you when y'all have arguments?

Yes. He said it's stress and it gets his anxiety up and things like that.

And— That's why you were concerned about him because I was in the hallway. I'm gonna be transparent with you. I was in the hallway and you were rushing through our security to go see him.

Yeah.

And I didn't understand what was going on.

Yeah.

And so, and my producer said it's because you were worried about his anxiety.

I was.

Got it.

'Cause like, yeah, he'll get, like he gets it. He says that that's the reason why like, He says that I accuse him of stuff that he's not doing.

Were y'all fighting all day yesterday or all day today?

Yeah, all day today.

What were y'all fighting about?

Yeah, about accusations and things that I was uncomfortable with.

I know y'all missed two flights yesterday.

Yeah.

Y'all had some issues today on the original flight. What was going on?

We were arguing and getting into it. We were not in a good place.

Everyone, I think it's time to hear Amin's side of the story, correct?

Yeah.

All right, so everyone, please welcome Amin to the show. Hey Amin, how are you doing?

Hey, how are you?

Nice to meet you, man.

Hi.

So I'm gonna ask you just point blank, have you cheated on Tiffany in the past?

When we first met, I was kind of out and partying and stuff and I said some things to her when I first met her and it's not like I didn't mean it. The things that I said to her were true and I do love her with all my heart. She's obviously, Hurt by that, rightfully so.

Her trust was broken, rightfully so.

Right. I didn't realize there was some old messages. The girl had reached out again. It's not like we were still talking or anything. And I didn't realize that was still in there. So we had to go through that at that point. She's the love of my life. So it made me feel so low and so guilty. I heard—

So I'm a little confused. Okay. And 'cause I'm gonna, I want to get specifics right now because I do really do want to figure out how I can help you all. I just asked you transparently, and I already know from my producers, y'all were fighting in the hallways. Y'all were fighting before you got here. That's why you missed flights. From your point of view, it seems as if everything is like, oh well, I know this happened and we're fine. So there's a reality that I'm missing here.

There is an internet number, different one every week that keeps hitting him up. Hey, the other day, was that yesterday or last night?

How do you know it's an internet number?

Because I called in and it says the text mail number is not responding or something like that. So whoever it is, it's the same person that hits him up every single week from a fake number, out-of-state number. I don't know who this person is, but they send something like, "Hey, I'm Karamo and I'm in Los Angeles," blah, blah, blah, little heart messages. And I'm like, "Who is this?" And he says he doesn't have a clue who that is. And I'm just like, "How do you not know? And who is this person?" Okay.

I have no idea who that is.

Got it.

And that's why, That's why I'm fully—

So you think it's spam?

It's spam or it's somebody just messing around or something, but—

Okay, 'cause I wanna go back to two different things.

I spent all my time with her.

I wanna go back to two different things that I heard because I need clarity on it. The first one is that you said that he goes away. So where do you go when you disappear?

Oh, so like, you know, sometimes—

'Cause she said you disappear at times. Where do you go?

Yeah, so I just go out with my friends and that's it.

If you felt like you need to blow some steam, why do you have to ignore me the whole entire night and why don't I hear from you until the next day? If I did that to him, him, he would lose his mind.

Well, if she disappeared for a day, what would you feel?

I would feel the same way.

You'd feel the same way. So you can acknowledge, you know how it feels.

Yeah, but it's not right.

So my second question for you is that you said with the Tinder app, you thought that you deleted it and that it was gonna be gone, but it wasn't. But she said that you brought it back.

So the arguments would basically get into threats of her talking to someone else or going out with someone else.

So because she was saying threatening that she would talk, you decided to put it back on your phone?

It went on for like an extended period of time.

So you put the app back on your phone?

Yeah, so she was—

Did you delete the app again?

Yes, of course.

Okay, and so right now y'all in a place where y'all are committed to each other, correct?

Yes.

Okay, great. I wanna talk to my audience and get y'all's point of view on this. Anybody have an opinion on this? I wanna get y'all's comments.

I think my opinion honestly is that I'm seeing some insecurity here and you're not gonna be able to keep a relationship like that. I think you're driving him away.

Oh, so you think that her insecurities are what's driving him away?

Yeah.

Oh wow. How do you feel about that?

I feel like it's not insecurities, it's just the things that I've been through.

What's your thoughts on this?

Hey Tiffany.

Hi.

It sounds like he was clear when you first met that he wasn't ready for a relationship and it sounds like you're holding past him against present him.

Do you feel like you're holding past him against present him?

I feel like, I'm not because I let a lot of that past go and then something recently happened that I didn't mention, which is he went to the bar with his friends and then he left the bar with a girl and he flirted with her actually right in my face. And then I found out later, he said, "All right, I'll tell you the truth. I left the bar with a girl and we were supposed to just go to drinks and she ended up driving to her apartment." And this was recently.

Got it, got it.

So this is why I'm feeling the way that I'm feeling now.

Makes so much sense. This makes so much sense. Because now you're telling me that there's been the beginning of the relationship, even though y'all weren't, you said you were just talking, you were trying to figure things out.

Right.

Then there's now you've put the app on your phone and then now there's a woman at a bar. The insecurities make sense.

I mean, when people show you who they are, you have to believe them.

I agree, I agree, I agree.

And checking your phone every single day and being on top of you and like the insecurity. No, he checks my phone every day. I can't send one text I can't send one text to nobody. He checks my phone every single day.

Do you check her phone as well?

He checks it every day too.

I check it, but not like that. But she's not crazy though.

I don't know.

Listen, that's—

Why y'all ganging on me? I'm not getting abused. That's not even right.

Listen, I'm on your side on this part. I'm not playing. Listen, I think it's time for us to go back to the stage so I can unlock the phone.

Uh-oh.

Okay, so we searched your phone for text messages, photos, and also apps, and also any calls. When it came to your results, when it came to text messages, we found zero text messages on your phone that can be considered shady. When it came to calls, we found zero calls, zero phone numbers. Now when it came to apps, we found two things 2 suspicious apps on your phone. Now the first thing, you logged onto Tinder in February, July, and in August of 2022.

Oh wow.

The app was still downloaded on those dates. You were interacting on the phone, on Tinder.

Oh my God.

In August of 2022. July and August of 2022.

Are you serious? He told me that it was deleted and that he never been on there since last year.

No.

And this is what I'm gonna, I went to, my mom had took me to a psychic and they told me, they said, He's manipulating you. He's a good manipulator. And the psychic said to me, she, he said, listen to me. He said, I read for all the celebrities. He said, listen, this guy is, it's not gonna be easy to find it on his phone. He's using apps to communicate with people. That's what a psychic that deals with celebrities told me.

So.

So the second thing, the second thing that we found is that I found dozens of cleavage pictures in Facebook Messenger from women to you.

Oh wow.

Yes.

That's why I knew I'm not crazy. This is terrible. Like, why would you lie to me about stuff like that?

As far as the exchanges, you could see those, right?

The thing is, it doesn't matter the conversation right now. The point, the matter is, is that your phone was unlocked and you were on Tinder these days. The point of the matter, the fact of the matter is that you were on Facebook Messenger and there were photos from women with cleavage.

She's been on dating apps herself.

The thing is, at the end of the day—

When we get in arguments, she's been on dating apps as well.

So this is what I'm gonna say. So the relationship for 13 months has been toxic from the beginning. Y'all are not working out together. It is time for you to put yourself first.

Thank you.

You seem like a woman who has said she's empowered and she's ready to say enough is enough.

Thank you.

All right? And we are here to support you.

Thank you.

So the thing is, is that at the end of the day, this is done. Because any explanation you give me is gonna just be what you've been trying to do before. This needs to end. She finally feels empowered. I'm not saying that— listen, I hope you find a relationship where you can be honest, where y'all can be together and you can have what you want. I believe there is a woman out there for you. So I want you to go find her. This just ain't the one. And I hope for you, you know, you have your proof. You might have done stuff too, I don't know. Listen, I don't know. And so I'm not gonna sit here and say I don't know because I didn't lock her phone.

That's why she didn't put her phone up.

Well listen, all I know right now is that we have the facts of this. Enough is enough. You don't deserve to be in this relationship. So move on, all right?

Thank you so much. Thank you.

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