My Wife Is An "Unstable Creature" & Her Baby Is My Brother's! | KARAMO
In this episode of Karamo, host Karamo mediates a heated confrontation between Hope, her husband Xavier, and Xavier’s brother William. Hope and Xavier have been married for four months after a four‑year relationship, and they share a child, Malik. Xavier accuses Hope of having an affair with his brother William and claims Malik might be William’s son. Hope denies any sexual relationship with William and insists Malik is Xavier’s child. The couple also argues over financial contributions, with Hope stating she pays all bills and bought a home without Xavier’s help. Both parties exchange verbal abuse, with Xavier repeatedly calling Hope an “unstable creature” and a “hoe,” while Hope calls Xavier “broke‑ass husband.” William denies any involvement with Hope. The discussion reveals a pattern of mistrust, alleged cheating, and lack of communication. Karamo introduces a DNA test result on stage, which is meant to resolve paternity, but the outcome is not explicitly stated. Throughout, Karamo emphasizes the toxicity of the relationship, advises respect, discourages name‑calling, and suggests counseling, though Xavier expresses a desire for divorce if the child is not his. The episode ends with Karamo urging both parties to break the cycle of abuse and wishing them luck, while highlighting the need for parental respect in front of their child.
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So please tell me about this situation. What is going on?
Well, he accused me of sleeping with his brother when we was in California for Christmas break.
This is your husband, Xavier?
Yes.
How long have you two been married?
Since 4 months.
So in the early parts of your relationship of being married, but y'all been together for a while, right?
Yeah.
How long?
4 years.
4 years. He's already thinking that you would sleep with his brother?
Yeah.
I never had sex with Will.
So what is the situation that causes Xavier to think that you slept with his brother then?
He hallucinate, he makes up things and like he just goes along. Like it's like he make things up in his head, he goes along with it.
So once he says this is true to me, it's true for everybody else?
Yeah.
Okay.
Regardless if it's the truth or it's a lie.
Is there a pattern or history in the back that may have led him to this? Like have you cheated before in the past?
No, he have.
He's cheated?
Yes.
Okay. But you've never cheated?
No.
Okay.
I mean, recently, like, I texted a guy, he was like, "Well, you cheated on me." I was like, "Well, no, I didn't." Yes. Like, you know, I never had like sexual intercourse with anyone since we've been together the last 4 years.
Got it. Okay then. So how does it make you feel to be accused of cheating with your husband's brother?
It makes me feel bad. Like, I mean, why are you with me? Why did you go along with the wedding if you thought that?
Yeah, makes sense. So why do you believe he's, Xavier is constantly accusing you of cheating?
'Cause he's cheating. He's probably, it's just probably like, I'm not like the type to keep on looking for stuff. So the first time I looked for it and found it. So I mean, he probably think like, hey, I'm doing this and that, so I'm gonna keep on accusing her of doing it.
What happened at the Airbnb in California when you all saw William?
It was just nothing, family, friends. We all was drinking, the kids was playing and stuff. And like everybody went to bed. But Xavier did go to bed before me. But I'm like, that's 'cause you, like, he's really not up to like the party person, so.
Is there any chance that Malik, your child, could be anyone else's child other than Xavier?
No, sir.
No possible way?
No.
Okay, just making sure. Are you happy in this marriage?
No, 'cause it's like I'm always getting torn down and accused.
Got it, okay. So what do you think about what Hope just said?
Unstable creatures lie.
Okay, so what has she done where she's lied to you that you've caught her?
Text another man, tell a man about me, all that weird stuff.
Okay.
No, that was not the thing. And I mean like the thing about with the texting the other man, of course, I mean it wasn't like attention, it's like a guy friend and I basically went off.
If she tell a man all your business, ain't that talking down on the next man? Right now you tell him what I'm going through as a man, but I'm trying to better myself. Ain't that talking down about your husband? This man has a wife.
No.
And this is the thing.
You said man.
I got the texts.
You said you said man, but at the same time act like one. You want to be treated like a king, act like one.
You're right. But why would I be a king to an unstable creature? I'm supposed to be a king to a queen.
And why would I be—
A real woman.
Why would I—
Not a woman that—
Why would I respect someone who been with me for 4 years and haven't done shit? I pay every bill by myself. He don't help me financially at all. He feel like, hey, if you can kick me out, I can do this and that. I just bought a home. I don't want, like, he didn't help with the mortgage, so why would I put your name on the deed? Yes, we are married, but at the same time, like, everything that goes, he don't help. So he feel like he don't have to help with anything.
I will say this 'cause I wanna go back. So this man you're texting, he has a wife.
He want two wives.
Did he tell you that he want two wives?
Yes, he did.
He did. So why were you engaging in a conversation with him?
And talking down on your husband?
Because basically he gave me advice.
He gave you advice.
How can another man give you advice if I'm willing to sit here and talk to you about the problems, but you wanna go talk to other people?
He's not gonna talk. He's gonna get angry.
That's an unstable creature. That's one that just wanna be for the streets.
He get angry.
I'm old school.
He get angry. We cannot communication. That's one thing that we lack of. No communication.
Okay.
He lacking communication.
But can you see, and this is not to justify any of your other actions, because I don't like you calling her an unstable creature. That's your wife there. But so that type of stuff. But I will say this, let me say this, let me say this one thing though. I do understand your point of view. If a man has said to you, I have a wife and I want a second wife, and then you go to him and are seeking advice from him, I do understand why you would feel like she's talking down to me and that there could be some cheating. Because now it's not like he said, well, I'm happily married, I'm just trying to advise you. He's telling you he wants another wife in the picture.
Yes, he told her, I can wait 10 years, 5 years, a month. Matter of fact, leave him now. I'm ready now.
Did he say that? No, he did not say that.
In the message she said, I am tired of my broke-ass husband. I come from a different type of lifestyle.
Did he say that?
No, I did not.
I have the message in my phone.
Okay, okay. So why do you believe, 'cause this is a jump here, why do you believe that Malik is your brother's child?
I'm sleep, I'm old school. I'm sleep, you supposed to be sleep with me. Am I right?
I don't know about that.
It's 11 o'clock. They downstairs drinking.
But it's your brother.
My brother.
I went to sleep before I had my partner outside with my sister.
My brother is a full-fledged hoe. He'll fuck anything. If she open her legs, he'll jump in it. So why you downstairs drinking with my brothers if you know they sleep with each other women and they sleep with each other women?
My mom was downstairs.
My mom could never walk from upstairs to get downstairs.
So then why aren't you, 'cause your wife said that you're mad with her but not your brothers. So why aren't you mad with your brothers if you think that this about your brother?
This is why, 'cause I know my brother's a hoe. I expect more from my wife.
Did he believe the entire time you were pregnant it was someone else's baby?
Yes.
The entire time.
And then she used to tell me, I was like, "Hey, I wanna go to the doctor's appointment." "I don't want you to go." "It's not my baby then." Yeah, 'cause I was like, "What's the use of going now?
I'm halfway through my pregnancy.
Why go now?" I tried to go in the beginning and you pushed me away.
No, it wasn't.
It wasn't in the beginning that you pushed him away?
She pushed me away. I said I went like my other child. I went to all the appointments and I was there.
He didn't wanna go.
She told me no.
So from your perspective, weren't you and him intimate from the time that the child was conceived?
No.
You weren't intimate during that time?
She don't deserve my sex.
Wow. Oh.
I'd rather, like I said, I'd rather walk through that door like she walked through that door.
No, like, I mean, I don't know.
I'd rather walk through that door.
The problem with the thing is like, Me and Xavier, we did have sex before I got pregnant. That's why I thought, like, you know, when I found out, I thought I got pregnant in November. Found out it wasn't November, it was December. That's what made him, I guess, think like, this don't add up. Like, we just left California, that don't add up. I'm like, okay, Xavier. And I was like, we had sex when we made it home from California. He was like, no, we didn't, no, we didn't. So it's like he put these things in his head and he hallucinated.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful, you know how we did it? I went out that night.
You didn't, you don't even go out.
I hope he, I was with somebody else.
He lying.
Out with who? She opened that door for me to walk through, so I walked through it.
So what you mad for if it was your brother baby? Why you so mad?
I just wanna know if the baby mine or not.
So you are admitting that in these, in this recently, like within the past year, you cheated and you're blaming her for, you said she was cheating.
No, no, this is how it happened. We talking, she talking to another man on the phone in front of me. So I'm thinking, you want an open relationship. Let me walk through that door.
That was years ago.
Do you two love each other?
I love— How can I love an unstable creature if I can't trust you?
I don't love him.
You don't love him?
I have love for him, but I'm not in love with him. Okay, okay.
Do you like each other?
Huh?
Do you like each other?
I can't stand this heifer.
No. You can't stand her?
Man, I wanna throw the ring at her head.
Like— Wow.
Unstable creature is for the streets.
No, you fucked up.
They unstable.
Well, I wanna hear what your brother William has to say about all this. Everyone please welcome William to the show. How you doing, William?
How you doing?
Good to meet you. Y'all both fly. So what did you think about what you just heard?
I don't see why he accuse me. She's not my type. This my brother's wife.
When did you first learn that your brother believed that you were his son's biological father?
Man, probably—
I probably don't even look like him.
Probably 2 weeks ago.
2 weeks ago you heard that?
From my mom, to be honest with you.
Oh, so this has not been something where he's been accusing you—
No.
He's been accusing me.
He's been accusing you of saying that somebody else did it, and then 2 weeks ago you decided that it was Will.
No, I really think it's Will.
Why?
I asked him for his brother to tell my truth.
Will walking around with his shirt off. I'm gone, Will in the house. What the fuck y'all doing? The camera's off and all that. What are y'all doing?
Did you ever sleep with women that he dated in the past?
No.
Never?
No.
You never did? Who?
Will.
Exactly. Do you have a toxic relationship with women?
Yes.
Who, me?
No, I don't got no toxic relationship with women.
Yes, he does. Have women broke your heart? I heard your first love.
Now, I'm gonna tell you, the first person that broke my heart was my mother.
I didn't heal from it.
It's just the stuff they been doing.
If I show you the text messages— And what did the lady do to break your heart?
She took care of you. You fed every day, weren't you?
You ate, you did everything.
So what broke your heart?
How'd she break my heart?
She didn't give me the love as a mother. Certain things I needed from her as a mother. And I guess that would crush Karamo.
Like he really wanted that.
I guess he don't wanna skip him 'cause his father I wanna fight you still.
What do you hope for Xavier and Hope's marriage?
I hope they get counseling.
I want a divorce.
'Cause they need it.
You want a divorce?
Yeah, if the baby not mine, I don't wanna work with no unstable creature. She for the streets, throw that bitch back.
And if the baby's yours?
Yeah, if the baby didn't even want to be on child support, not apologize to y'all, then yeah.
He said this, hold on, 'cause I'm gonna ask this.
He said if the baby is not his, he wants a divorce, but he's calling you an unstable creature. He's doing all these things. If the baby is his, do you want a divorce?
Yes.
I hope she do, 'cause I'm gonna sign them damn papers.
I have already issued the papers to him, he didn't wanna sign them.
Because there's a lot going on here, it's back and forth with the way that—
And I have gave him divorce papers, like I don't like what it say about my child.
I don't want the divorce papers 'cause I say look, let's go make sure the child's mine first. If it's mine, I'm gonna sign the papers. But the papers say if the child's yours, you have no right to see the child.
Got it. So if this is his child, are you willing to walk away? Yeah.
I'm damn near walking away still.
Oh, okay.
I'm going back to the streets.
'Cause this has been toxic. You can see it.
That's what it is.
And I'm thrown in the middle of it for no reason.
For no reason. 'Cause you only got thrown in the middle of this two weeks ago.
I'm not about to be downstairs at 11 o'clock, you and her.
I can drink with somebody, me and this bitch.
How many times I drink with y'all women at 11 o'clock at night?
He real insecure around us.
How many times I drink with y'all women at 11 o'clock?
Don't be around him.
You know why?
Don't be around insecure.
'Cause that's your woman. Rule one, I should not be in my brother woman face.
Why?
It's not me being insecure, it's me respecting you as a man. 'Cause I should not be in your friend's face. I don't want them to think they can get some sex from me.
It sound good, it sound good.
But I hope when your friends come over, they don't talk about it.
At the same time you saying that though, you have her do stuff for people though.
Thank you.
So you gotta get— I'm right.
So if that's the case, you should say no. You will call her and tell her, hey, go pick my brother up.
Hey, go get me, drop my brother off at the court.
Can you take my brother to the store?
I never told y'all to take the bill street. I never said what.
No, you talking about bill in general.
Do you have her do stuff?
Do you have her do stuff?
Do you have her do stuff for you?
Yes. Now hold on, hold on, hold on.
Have you had her drop things off to your brother?
Yeah, you tell him to go get the car. It's the lifestyle we was living. It's the lifestyle we was living. Ask the man a question.
Do you have her do stuff? You call the phone, you say, go take Will the car. Now you take Will the car.
My brother use my car.
I gotta tell you this, no matter what, at the end of the day, we need the DNA truth. And we have the DNA outcome right here that will tell you, first of all, if this is your child or not.
I wanna see it 'cause I really don't think.
Xavier, if you open that envelope, we're done.
Okay, hey look, we done no matter what 'cause I really don't think I'm the father.
Xavier, then here you go.
If you open that envelope, we're done.
I'm gonna open it. Walk away 'cause I wanna know.
What is it?
I apologize.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
But at the end of the day, you can give her this ring 'cause I don't wanna be with an unstable creature. I'm going. Go be free and go to the street. Thank you.
You the wrong one in this thing, bro.
You wrong.
That's your son.
I'm married.
You're wrong.
Now, the baby, it's mine.
I'm sorry.
I'm going tell you this. I'm.
I'm very. I don't think you should get a divorce this early.
No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't give that advice. Don't give that advice. Don't give that advice. Don't give that advice. No, no, no, no, no, no. I have witnessed this for almost 35 minutes. And when I tell you this right here, is that this is one of the unhealthiest relationships I've ever seen on this stage. Thank you. There's delusion, there's paranoia, but there's also a lot of abuse, verbal abuse. The way you all talk to each other, that's not a healthy relationship.
I'd rather call her an unstable creature than a B.
I gotta tell you this right now, both are equally bad. First of all, to call a woman a creature is just disrespectful.
Yeah.
It's synonymous with when you call somebody a B-word, you're calling them a female dog. Women are not that. She's not a creature and she's not unstable. From our point of view, the one who has been unstable because of the parent is you, unfortunately.
But look, she make me unstable. Like I said, if you read the text messages—
No one can make you unstable.
You have a choice of how— She texted and all the text she talk.
You have a choice of how to react. You have a choice of how to react.
And my reaction is I don't think the baby was mine and what, I want a divorce.
I'm gonna tell you this. I'm very happy that she wants this to be done and I'm very happy you want it to be done. But what I will tell you is that now that you have these answers, is that your son needs you to be there and be the best father, but also to respect his mother in front of him.
I do that with my other child's mother and I put myself in the child's shoes.
I'm not saying you're not. I just have to give you the advice. I just gotta give you the advice.
But I'm gonna talk to her how I talk to the other ones.
Which is respectful?
Bitches, hell no.
What the fuck?
Sorry, I'm from California. We don't respect hoes like that. Now if you're a queen, I respect you. A queen and a hoe is two different things.
But you not giving kingly behavior, so why anybody gonna respect you?
Why would I give her kingly behavior? You can't call her a hoe, you married her. You can't call her a hoe, you married her.
A real king, and I'll tell you this, because with my son's mother, I've said this a million times, we don't see eye to eye on a lot of things, but one thing I will never do is disrespect that woman in front of my child. Will never. I will never disrespect her publicly, period. I'll never disrespect her because at the end of the day, her choices are her choices. But what the choice we made together was to have a child and I need that child to see me be kingly so that he acts like a king in his own life. So you do the same.
Okay, you right.
I'm just wishing, I'm telling you, do the same.
You right, you right.
Listen, you can break the cycle. You can break the cycle. It's up to you. Anyway, I wish y'all the best of luck, all right? I wish y'all the best of luck. Please stay divorced. I mean, please keep it divorced.
Man, it's done.
Please keep it. Xavier has disrespected me for the last time. My family don't like him. I should have been let him go. No, and I'm done with him. Yeah, if he don't come pack his bags, I'm gonna pack it for him. After this, I'm single, healing, and working on myself, and worried about me and my kids.
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