My Wife Says The Kids Aren't Mine! 😲😮| KARAMO

Be careful what you look for because you might just find it.

Yes.

So you went searching through her phone and you found a lot of things. What did you find?

I did. I was actually the, what they call the, when you lose your phone, I'm the number that they give the little code to.

Yes.

For Gmail. And I was like, hmm, I wonder. Open up her Gmail. It said enter password. I don't remember. It goes ahead and dings my phone. I get the information. All of a sudden it was like, Oh.

What did you find?

Oh, everything from Craigslist ads to looking for affection, 420 friendly, looking for that orgasm. You name it, it was just all out there. And then I see nude pictures of my wife, I see these guys I don't know, Snapchat, I mean, all these things. I mean, yeah, but there was worse. I mean, it was insane.

You believe Casey's being catfished? Your wife is being catfished?

Oh, definitely, definitely.

Yeah, why do you think she's being catfished?

When I seen the guy, I mean, I'm sorry, but the guy is a handsome, handsome guy. I was like, damn, you know? It doesn't really show his picture there, but this guy is actually really, really good looking. His eyes is like—

So you feel like he's catfishing your wife?

Yeah, definitely.

Because they've never met in person?

No, not at all.

So my producers told me that there's a camera in your bedroom. Why?

Actually, I was playing around. I got one of those dingbells for your door in front.

Yeah.

And it's like $49 if you get the other thing. So we got this little thing, me and my son did. We made it where it worked. And I was like, I wonder. And I stuck it on, stuck it right there. She could see it if she looked, but she never looked there, so. We leave 'cause she told me, she goes, "I need an hour to pack my stuff." And I was like, 'cause she was actually leaving. So she's actually packing her stuff and all of a sudden she pulls out this drawer and pulls out, I never play in my wife's drawers. You're not supposed to play in your wife's drawers, you know? So she opens up this drawer and here comes all this laundry that I ain't never seen before in my life.

So did your wife know there was a camera there? No. She did not know?

No.

Why didn't you tell her?

Just, I wanted to make sure. Trust issues?

Yeah.

One of the things that really hurt my heart is that I heard from my producers that your son caught your wife with another man recently.

He went, it was, yeah. He goes up the stairs, he says, Dad, I heard something and I thought Mom was in trouble. I knew that Mom went upstairs with this guy and she said they were friends. And when I get up there, Dad, this guy's naked between Mom's naked legs and the guy turns around and slams the door shut. And he says, I don't know what they're doing, Dad, but Mom says they were just playing. And I was like, yeah, they was playing all right. And that set off something. We were at a certain stage in our lives where everything was going great. And then I heard that. I mean—

And did you ever get a chance to talk to your child about that?

I talked to him. I said, you got to— there's trust. You got to have trust. I said, in a predicament like that, that just means that your mom pretty much gave up on us right there at that point. But I said, Yeah. I got your back.

Yeah. Is there drug issues in the marriage?

Yes, there was.

There was, for how long?

On and off throughout pretty much our whole marriage.

Got it.

We had, you know, the big turning event was we kinda, we lost our kids to CPS. We ended up moving, chasing 'em. She went to rehab.

Why is that making you emotional? What's going on?

Because I was stuck at home. 6 months, pretty much. I took a house, it wasn't livable. I made it livable. I got my kids back. I got 'em back, not her. It was me. I mean, she's a good woman. When she's not around, influences. Like this guy that I'm saying catfishing, you know, he's like, the thing now is divorce him and you'll get to see more of me. I mean, it's like—

That's what he's saying to her, that if you divorce him, you can see more of me. Do you wanna save your marriage?

Yeah, I do. She was like the love of my life when I first met her. Like, you're gonna assault me?

Yeah.

I felt love, stuff I haven't felt before.

Do you feel the same way about Casey today?

Yeah. 'Cause honestly, I think a lot of it, she's trying to push me away.

Push you away? Have you ever done anything bad in the relationship that would hurt her?

Yes.

Did you cheat?

I did once. I kept that from her for a few years. And then finally when she said, you know, okay, I cheated. And I was like, good, I'm glad you could say it 'cause so did I. And then she went ahead and she continued to do so.

But one of the big things that I heard as well that I need to address before I bring your wife out is that you said she keeps telling you that the children are not yours.

Yes.

So your kids are still teenagers.

Yeah.

And so do they know that their mother has said that you might not be their father?

Yeah, they both wanna know for sure now.

Wow. Okay.

It's not gonna kill me because another man did something that I couldn't do. What's gonna kill me is if she rips these kids away from me.

It's time to meet Casey and hear what she has to say and hear her side of the story. Everyone please welcome Casey to the show.

You are the reason why we're toxic. You are a liar and you sat up here just badmouthing me and saying I started, you're the one that said they ain't your kids. 'cause you racked your nuts when you were a kid. They are yours. My mother even told you that those are your kids. Your mother told you that. Your aunt told you that.

Nancy, take a seat for me, please.

Hi, Karamo.

Hi, nice to meet you. Let me give you a hug. I can see that you're very angry and I'm hearing some things right there that are a little bit different than the story. So tell me, you can sit on the couch.

I don't wanna sit next to him.

You don't wanna sit next to him? You don't wanna sit next to him? I understand that. You say Marvin hacked your phone.

He hacked my email, didn't I find out? 'Cause my device, my phone itself said, is this you or is this not you? And the phone that came up saying it hacked it, it's his phone.

Well, he's admitting that. He's saying that he did go through it.

And he went through, he got my pictures and he started putting the nude pictures of me online.

Oh.

He did that.

Is that true?

No, not true. Never? Never.

The hell is not true?

I wanna know, in the 20 years y'all been together, has your marriage always been this toxic?

No, it didn't get toxic until somebody went back to work, started going out to the bars every single night. That's where you met the bitch and you fucked her. Sorry, that's where you met the wet chick and you fucked her. I found out by washing your pants and pulling the receipt out that said condoms and beer. Outside of all nights.

So when did the cheating begin?

When my daughter just got into preschool, Head Start. That's when he went and cheated on me and he lied about it for about 5, 10 years.

So you said that you cheated and then you found out that he cheated. What made you feel like you wanted to cheat in that moment?

To get back at him.

But sleeping with another man, did that not make you feel worse?

I wasn't getting nothing from him.

My question is, did it make you feel worse?

Didn't make me feel worse, didn't make me feel better. He turned his back on our marriage. He's the one that started belittling me, treating me like crap.

What's going on sexually between you two?

Nothing.

Okay, how long has that been?

Any time at all? It's been about 6 months. And then I walk in the laundry room. The one time we actually had really good sex is I walked in the laundry room, she's playing with a vibrator on her phone. And it woke me up 'cause I heard mm, mm, mm, mm.

For one, it wasn't a vibrator. For two, you're damn right I did because I was watching some porn.

So how long have y'all not been having a good sexual relationship? Is that from the beginning?

That's been almost 10 years, I'd say.

10 years of relationship problems.

He's the one that gets satisfied, I don't. You gotta have a big dick to make me happy.

Marvin says you've been living a double life. Do you feel like you've been living a double life?

Double life my ass. Everybody knows what I do, when I do it, and how I do it. And I talk to everybody about my life. I have no secrets about my life. In my life. None. He's the one that's living a double life. He goes out to the bar all the time, every single night practically.

Are you sending money to other men?

Nope. It's not no man. It's not going to him. You know what, you really need to lay off that.

It is.

You need to lay off that. No, it's not. You don't know.

Once you get a divorce, you're gonna go be with him, right? He's gonna go farther with the relationship, right?

You know what, we are getting divorced because I hate you.

That's good. Thank God.

I want you gone. I want you to sign the divorce papers.

That's fine.

I'm only here to I'm only here to get the baby back. I hate you. I will raise the kids properly.

Basically, you're done.

You are a piece of crap.

You are a liar.

You need to take your crock lying ass and go to hell. Nice.

Okay, hold on. Your wife just said she hates you.

Yeah.

And I see the way you all communicate with each other. If your wife's saying she hates you, why are you holding on?

First of all, because of my son. My son is a big picture of this. He says, Dad, I've been with you, I've seen everything, you know? My daughter takes my wife's side because they're best friends.

Your wife is coming back out. I wanna, please come back out. All right. So you just said some very strong words.

Do me a favor, don't refer to me as his wife. I'm his ex-wife. I want nothing to do with him.

I will.

I don't wear my ring and no, I didn't get rid of it. You can have that back too. Go pawn it since you're so hard up.

So you know what? I think the first thing, 'cause I'm not gonna go, I'm just gonna get to the DNA test because one of the things that I've heard over and over again is that You've said, and you've said, or one of you have said that these children aren't yours.

And to answer his, what he said.

Who started that? Who's the one who started saying that the children aren't his? He said that.

Actually my mother.

So is she? It was from him 'cause his mom's another reason why we always got in fights. When we were together, when his mom had our kids, yes, we got our kids back 'cause yes, he did do it 'cause I was going to treatment. I was sent there by CPS, yes I was. And I'm proud to say it because I'm clean and sober to this day. Yeah, good, good, good for you. And I can say it with pride. Recently. Can you? Recently. Can you?

How many months?

How many months? How many months Marvin have you sober? You're not. Are you high or have drunk brain down?

Neither above.

Okay.

I'm glad you hate me anyway.

I hate you.

I like to hate you. So this came from—

To forget you.

So this came from—

I already forgot you.

So this came from the mother.

His mom.

And then it sort of rabbled outta control.

Yeah.

I understand.

What's really sad is that my mother was the one that said she put you through every kind of hell there possibly could be.

And I still stood around because I thought you were worth it until you Until you started doing the shit. And that's when I said, "I hate you." And I walked away.

My question for you, do your kids see you two argue like this?

Yes.

Yeah. So your kids see this behavior. Have they heard you all say that this might not be their father? Have they heard that?

No, they've never heard me say that. They hear him say it all the time. I don't live with them and they, my daughter has heard her dad say, on the plane ride here, he looked at our son and said, "I know you're mine, but I don't think she, I know she's not." And looked and pointed at my daughter.

Did you say that to your daughter?

No, I didn't.

And she's the one that told me that when we were here.

So because of your relationship, your kids have essentially had to choose sides.

He chose a side because he's around him all the time, listening to what he has to say, hasn't heard nothing from me.

Have you ever served him with divorce papers?

I sure did.

And what happened? He won't sign?

Ask him. He got served last Friday.

Will you sign them?

The whole thing is that we don't have to sign 'em. After 21 days, it's just done.

What do you think of him saying that he doesn't want to divorce you because he's scared that your son is gonna disown you. It sounds like he's—

My son already said he disowned me and I told him when he's old enough and ready to come back and be my son, I'm open arms. I will never close my door to him. To him, I want nothing to do with. My daughter, once we get divorced, I am gonna fight for my daughter.

Well, this is the thing. I'm gonna get to these DNA results. Please do. These DNA results are very clear about one fact. Usually I'd give these to you all, but I'm gonna go ahead and answer these myself. When it comes to Lorenzo, your son, Marvin, he is your son, okay? I wanna make sure that's clear.

Told you. Every time you said that you were not the father, you were calling me a liar.

And when it comes to your daughter Marciana, she is your daughter, okay?

Now I'm done. Can I have those?

You may have them.

These are going to court with me. You're gone. We are divorced. Don't ever call me. Don't ever have nothing to do with me 'cause I hate you.

Casey, I wanna ask one thing before you leave. If you could take a seat for me, 'cause there is one thing. I understand that you're finished. But before you leave here, I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't say to you, I understand that you're angry and I understand that you two have been in a dysfunctional relationship. And even through this pain and hurt, I do understand that at the end of the day, you still are a mother. And in you, there's something that has to still hurt when you hear things about your son saying he wants to disown you.

It kills me 'cause my son's my firstborn.

I know, but at the end of the day, what I'm saying to you is that by bringing your kids in to validate what you've experienced, this experience is only hurting them. And I would just encourage you as you're leaving here, we know that you want to end this relationship, but I would encourage you to try to find moments to talk to your son, talk to your daughter about the fact that mommy and daddy did wrong, that we didn't have the healthiest relationship, but that you want to take the first steps to be better for them.

The one thing I gotta do is I gotta talk to my son. He's the one I gotta work on. My daughter, when I started talking to her, I was asking her.

She took your side.

Well, I was asking her and I asked her what she would like, if she wants me to try and work on it with him or if she wants me to separate. And she looked at me and said, mom, you get back with dad, then I will stop talking to you.

The thing is, is that I understand, but even those conversations of if I should get back with dad, should I stay with mom? Those are conversations that should never happen with kids.

I will work on talking to my daughter, my son, and I'll work on being a better mom.

So what I'm saying to you is the next time your kids come to you and they say things about dad did this, dad did that, I'm asking you right now to commit to not engaging and saying, I know your dad did this, I know this. Just say, hey, I'm gonna be here to love you. Now for you as well, because I understand you're hurting and I understand you have your own things and I see how this has bled into, but you as well as a father, if you really love those kids like you say you do, it is up to you to take a stand as a man and to not talk about their mother in front of them.

Exactly, exactly.

I'm gonna tell you that.

Exactly.

Point blank. The same way I would tell her not to talk about you, the same way. Because at the end of the day, the kids are getting hurt by your actions. Your actions. And I don't want your kids to get hurt because I do believe that you can be the best father for them, but the actions and things you're doing now are not doing that. So what I'm asking you to commit to is not saying things bad about their mother or screaming to their mother around your kids. Can you at least make that commitment?

Oh yeah, beyond, yeah.

Yes?

We're gonna continue going to counseling too.

Good.

That's one of the parts of the parenting plan and stuff you're supposed to do.

I'm glad, yeah, I get it, I get it. I'm glad and I'm glad you're going to counseling and I support and I applaud you for doing that. You have to stop them and say, "Hey, don't talk about mom and dad. That's our stuff. Y'all just learn to love each other as sister and brother." I need you to look at each other and if you could for me say, "I commit to not talking about you negatively to our children." Can you do that? Can you look at your soon-to-be ex-wife and say that?

I commit to not talking about you negative to our children as I hope you do the same.

Can you?

I commit also to never talking about you negative or period. To our children. I will talk to them about them and me and them only.

Listen, a win is a win and I'm gonna take that. At least you got that. I respect you. Good luck. Hold on, where you going? I'll tell you where you're going. Right here to subscribe and right here to watch more. Period.