No Kisses Until You Unlocked Your Phone! | KARAMO

Oh, so tell me, girl, you won't kiss your wife?

No.

Why? What is going on? Why won't you kiss her?

Who wants to kiss somebody and they kissing on their ex?

Oh.

Who wants to do that? I mean, that's just too much. I don't wanna go through that.

That's what I'm talking about.

I don't wanna go through that. I don't wanna go through that.

So what happened 2 months ago?

My wife, she received a message from her ex saying that she needed her to come up to the hospital. Yeah. And pick up her child because she's so sick. All of a sudden she's dying, internally bleeding. I talked to my wife and I was like, okay, red flag because that's your ex. You're supposed to be leaving your ex in the past. We just got married as you see and I don't wanna deal with that so I allowed her to go.

So was she a co-parent for that child?

No.

She was not?

At all. She trusts her. She's like, oh, I trust you so I feel like you can I can take care of this child if that's okay with you and your wife. Me? No, that's not. Her? It should be no as well, so.

So she went to the hospital. Did you try to reach out to her when she's at the hospital?

I did. I contacted her like 20 times.

20 times?

20 times.

And there was no communication?

There was none. I'm pacing back and forth. I'm like, okay, she better pick up this damn phone before it be something else, you feel me? I got this damn phone. I'm like, okay, let me calm down. Let me get a little cigarette, you know? Ooh, I'm shaking.

Yeah, you upset.

I'm shaking.

So you told my producers that you received a text message from somebody while you was at the hospital. Tell me about that.

Okay, so the messages were saying that my wife was hugging on her ex, kissing on her. Oh. Yes. Kissing on her, hugging on her, saying that she wanted to be back with her. And I'm like, "Hold on, we just got married November 3rd. You wanna go back to trash? That's what you wanna go back to?" Wow. We're dealing with a stalker. A stalker.

So what has changed in your relationship since the hospital incident?

We haven't really been intimate.

And what signs have you seen that make you believe she's cheating?

First of all, it'll be the side texting. She'll be texting, we'll be watching TV and she's texting and she's like this. Turning her back, texting. We're asleep at 4 o'clock in the morning and you're getting no caller ID phone calls. So who's calling your phone? It's no business. It seriously triggers me because my past relationships, they done that.

How long y'all been together?

We've been together for 5 years.

5 years.

Okay.

So this is a long-term relationship. And does she accuse you of cheating?

She has.

She has accused you of cheating?

She has.

Do you wanna save the marriage?

I really do.

You do wanna save it?

Because I love her.

Okay.

I really do.

You do wanna stay there. Well, listen, I think it's time to meet your wife Janelle and hear her side of the story. So everyone please welcome Janelle to the show.

Uh-uh. What we not gonna do— No, no, no, no, no. What we not gonna do is sit here and paint this picture like I'm some type of messed up person. We not gonna do that. Uh-uh.

But you lying.

No, I'm not. You are. No. You are. You are. What about them men?

We'll see. We'll see when he unlock the door.

What about them men though?

Well, what men?

At work. They said that I was beautiful. What?

I mean, I can't help the fact that I'm beautiful.

Are you supposed to be talking to 'em though?

I mean, they're my coworkers.

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

So do you have some bound— First of all, welcome to the show. Thank you for being here. Thank you. Take a seat for me.

Thank you, Karamo.

Yeah, thank you. So do you all have some boundary where you're like, she can't talk to men at work?

No, she can talk to men at work. It's just when you too friendly.

Okay.

That's the problem.

So you feel her actions go a little bit further than just saying thank you?

Yes, I do.

Okay, in what ways? Gimme some examples.

So.

And don't sit here and lie.

It's more of her body language. Hey, how you doing?

I'm me, I'm Karamo.

That's too much for me. Too much.

That sounds like an insecurity and not really an action on her part.

She's very insecure.

Oh, you think she's insecure?

I believe so.

I am not insecure, it's just too much.

How many of y'all think that that is an issue? If the person just saying hi in a body language, do y'all think that's, if you think it's an issue, raise your hand. There's a couple people. There's like 3 people here that said—

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

My cousin here in orange said if you shit me a little too much, she on your side, she on your side. So I gotta ask you point blank, did you cheat on your wife?

No, I did not cheat on her, but she do think I did.

Well, you got a whole smile on your face when I ask you that.

Right, you smiling way too hard.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You smiling way too hard. Let me tell you why I'm smiling. It's because we've been going through this for too long. I literally brought her here so I can show her that I'm not doing nothing.

Got it, okay, great.

Like what?

So why did you have to go see her in the hospital then? Huh? Why did you have to go see her in the hospital? Talk about huh?

Yeah, you shaking too much.

You heard the question, talk about huh?

We wanna hear it.

Okay, so I went to go see her because it was a serious matter as she put it to me.

You call your ex a stalker, so why still go?

That's your ex, you're supposed to be leaving her in the past.

Okay, so I went because I wanted to see if it was true.

But if you call her a stalker.

Because it was something involved.

Okay.

A child. So I was like, let me see if this is real.

Okay, so tell me something. How is she a stalker?

Baby, I have been getting stalked.

She's making random posts, making different names on platforms. She using family as, so basically what it means.

Bait.

Yeah, as bait basically. And you're taking it.

Yeah, 'cause if she— So you shoulda talked to her. Okay, let me ask you this then, 'cause I understand about the ex. From your opinion, 'cause your wife said something, are you two still intimate?

No.

No. And how does that make you feel?

It makes me feel real.

Yeah.

Excuse my language, but it's—

It's your wife, I get it, I get it. Yeah. Do you wish the intimacy was back?

I do wish it was back and I do wanna fix whatever that she got in her head.

Well, unlock that phone.

Are we unlocking her phone too?

We are unlocking her phone.

Mm.

Do that.

She's like, do it.

I got nothing to hide.

But so you said you have nothing to hide.

I don't.

Okay. Well, this is my question. Going back to the intimacy and you saying that the reason it's affected is because it's all in her head. What she said was there is a direct action of you turning your back when you're on your phone. Why are you hiding your phone from her? 'Cause that is what she's saying affects the intimacy as well.

Okay.

She can't even tell it. She can't even tell it.

I do it because sometimes it's not meant for her to be in my business when it come down to me talking to my family.

Okay.

You are my business. I mean, just like I'm your business, you're my business. We one.

I understand that you might want to set a boundary of privacy. Listen, that's something that y'all can talk about. But what I'm asking you is why turn your back? Because when you turn your back, now it just becomes, not only am I being secretive, but I'm also shutting you out. You see how that action is like, so imagine if I'm your wife and we together and I say, I'm giving the whole time like this, I'm talking to you, so yeah. How you gonna feel?

I will fuck.

You see what I'm saying? My whole back's to you. It's not just the act of me not wanting you in my business, but now my whole back's to you. I'm like shutting you out.

And that makes me feel some type of way. It really does. It really hurts me.

By the way, I'm not accusing you of cheating. I don't know. We gonna unlock both of y'all phones to figure out what y'all doing. But I'm just hoping, because she said, I'm hoping y'all not. But what happens is, the reason I'm pointing this out is because I don't want y'all to leave this stage and not have some tools because you are married. Well, I think it's time to unlock the phone. China, we unlocked your phone. And you said we ain't got nothing to hide, right?

We don't.

Amen. All right, Janelle wants to know if Chyna has been calling other women or men. Chyna says she has not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched her calls and found that Chyna is telling the truth.

Clock, clock that tea, clocky.

Janelle, you wanna know if Chyna has any dating apps. Chyna says she does not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched her apps and found that Chyna China is telling the truth.

Period, period.

I told you. Janelle, you wanna know China has been texting other women or men. China says she has not. My locked phone investigator searched her texts and found that China is not telling the truth. We found 3,840 texts.

Get it, get it.

3,840 texts with 4 different people all within the past year. "And my investigator told me there is something in this evidence bag I gotta see. Can I see this, Ralph?" Oh. "Next time you gonna be my naughty girl." Thank you, Ralph.

Oh.

Hold on.

I remember that.

I don't know.

That's on March of 2025. Let me see this one. It says, this one says, "It's all fun and games until my a certain part of your body and your arms are pulled behind your back." And this one says, "I can't wait to do more intimate stuff with you." This one says, "You're lucky your son's there right now upstairs 'cause I would come over there and," oh.

So what's going on here?

Hold on, no, no, no, no, no. What's going on? No, no, no, no, this one.

What's this? Can I just, no, no, no.

You can't see this one, Karamo.

Let him finish reading.

This one is from—

Yeah.

A male because it says, "I would've come over there right now and fucked you." Mm-hmm.

Can I see that?

No, you can't see that. You know.

So—

Right, somebody said, "You know who it is." So, huh. Who is it? Shut up. Who is it? Who is it? Who is it?

So you are having affairs with men? You are having affairs with some men?

Mm, so what is that? No, no, no.

This is not about me.

This is not about me. This ain't about you.

This ain't about me.

This about you. This is about you.

Not the gaslighting, girl.

This is about you. Wait, no.

This is about you.

Not me.

This about you.

But yet, it still came out $3,000.

Um—

So what's up?

But you're also saying— You've requested them to have sex.

5 years, baby.

You have said here, "Hey sexy, I want it." You're saying, you're requesting it. So this ain't just like they're soliciting you. You are also saying, "I'ma talk nasty to you the whole time you moaning." So I'm saying, what's up?

I don't know because somebody probably had my phone.

Oh, somebody had your phone? Somebody probably had my phone. 5 years. For 5 years? Somebody had your phone 5 years? Somebody had your phone 5 years? Okay.

I don't know.

Janelle, before we unlock your phone, is there anything you wanna say about your ex?

No?

Nothing about your ex. Okay then, Janelle, we unlocked your phone. All right, Chyna, you wanna know if Janelle has been calling other women. Janelle says she has not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her calls and found that Janelle is telling the truth.

Yeah.

China, you wanna know if Janelle has any dating apps. Janelle says she does not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her apps and found that Janelle is not telling the truth. My unlock the phone investigator found that Janelle is active on Facebook Dating.

Facebook Dating? Who the hell you trying to date?

I'm trying to, man, I don't be on that.

You don't be on that?

Can you say you don't be on it?

Girl, y'all both crazy. So, all right.

No, I be trying to find friends though, for real. 'Cause it's boring.

On a dating site?

Right.

Go to the mall. Go find a friend. Go ask your wife to be your friend. Why you gotta go on a dating site to find a friend?

See, that's the thing though. We always together. So it's like, I want, you know, Other stuff. Not nobody different.

Well, China, you wanna know if Janelle has been texting other women, specifically an ex. Janelle says she's not. Malik the phoner investigator searched her texts and found that Janelle is not telling the truth. Malik the investigator found 981 flirtatious texts with 3 different women.

I—

The crazy part is none of them are her ex. They're just all different women. So she got options. But don't be surprised, girl, 'cause you got options too. Wait, wait, wait, Karamo. Let's not pretend here. We just unlocked yours and found out you doing the do, and you over there doing the do too.

So both parties is basically messed up.

So what do y'all wanna say to each other? Because clearly somewhere within this 5 years, you all both decided that you weren't happy, and instead of Instead of saying to each other, "I'm not happy," you decided to gaslight each other and cheat on each other. So why are y'all in this if y'all wanna shut each other out?

I'm in it. Go ahead.

I'm in it because I do feel like we have a fighting chance and—

Yeah, listen, I'm not in your marriage and one thing I'm not gonna do is break up a marriage, but I can tell you the first symptom is that you all are shutting each other out from your true desires and needs and wants. And it's creating a lot of unhealthy and unsafe behavior because if y'all over there having sex with other people and doing other things, now this is gonna affect you two as wife and wife. So the real question is, why have y'all started to shut each other out? Why are you afraid to let your wife in and tell her what you really desire?

I believe it's the communication. The communication is really off. Okay.

When do you remember it starting to be off?

Two months ago.

It couldn't have been two months ago, girl. This is, this is, two months, two months, my, 2 months might have been when you hit your breaking point and decided to start texting some dudes, but it's been going on before that. For you, when was it, when did this break? 'Cause I see you tearing up. When did this break?

Um, it have not always been like that. 2 years.

2 years ago. What happened 2 years ago?

2 years ago, I just stopped being happy.

And why is that?

It was like, and he wasn't doing the normal stuff that we was doing. Family time, it wasn't there.

So what happened 2 years ago in your mind, in your world that made you say, you know what, I don't want this family time right now?

Probably took toll on having family involved in our relationship.

Okay.

So y'all let outside parties come in between y'all?

Yes, sir.

Okay. And y'all still haven't healed from that? No. And so now it makes sense why you said to me earlier that when she turns her back, she talking to somebody and the first thing you said was, "Because I'm talking to my family and that's none of her business." So you're still allowing family to affect this relationship? I'm just connecting the dots of what y'all said on this stage. And so listen, the beauty of it is that your business out there so everybody know and everybody gonna have an opinion. So let me tell you why there's the beauty of this, 'cause everybody know everybody's gonna have an opinion. And now this is where either you allow those opinions to continue to break you more, or you all shut them out and start to do the work together. This is actually a positive reset because you know when you get home in this air, they gonna be like, "Ooh girl, we heard, we heard." And this is where y'all both say, "Uh-uh, I don't need y'all in it. Y'all heard what y'all need to heard.

Y'all not gonna hear nothing else." And that is it.

I want you to get closer to your wife and get closer to your wife. And I want you to look at each other and say, "I'm sorry for what I did." I apologize for what I did.

I'm sorry for what I did.

And I want you then to say, "When we get home." When we get home.

When we get home.

"I'm gonna lean in." I'm gonna lean in.

I'm gonna lean in.

"And it's just gonna be you and me." And it's just gonna be me and you.

And it's gonna be you and I.

There we go, all right. This ain't gonna fix all your problems. This is the first step, okay? You can give your wife a hug, I know, and a kiss, I know. I really do wish y'all the best of luck because I don't want your home to be broken up. And again, this ain't advice for everybody 'cause some people I've been like, "All this cheating, go." But clearly for them, right? I gotta always clarify that 'cause people at home be like, "What advice you giving?" This is advice specific for them. For y'all. Since I saw y'all reaction, that cheating is not the important thing. It's about the communication and rebuilding the trust and letting other people out. So I wish y'all the best of luck, okay?

Thank you.

All right, hopefully I helped a little bit. You did. Okay, good. Take care, y'all, okay?