No Marriage Until You Unlocked Your Phone! | KARAMO

So tell me something, you won't marry your man Tony until you unlock his phone?

That's right, Karamo.

Why, what's going on?

Cheating, cheating, cheating.

Really?

Yes, Karamo.

Oh my gosh. Okay, tell me some details.

So first and foremost, his birthday came, right? Uh-huh. I baked him a cake.

Okay.

I bought him food.

Okay.

I bought him an outfit and everything. I invited my friends and everything to come over.

Yeah.

And celebrate with us. And he disappeared for a week. He didn't even show up.

For a week?

For a week. We didn't argue, we didn't fight or anything.

Mm-hmm.

There was nothing wrong and he left for a week and then disappeared the next month for another week after that. And then the next month, another week.

Okay, that's suspicious pattern.

Yeah.

Where does he say he's going?

The second time it was his uncle's— Thank you. It was his uncle's funeral or his granddad's.

If he left to a funeral, why would he not say, "Hey, you my girl, come and support me." Exactly. Meet my family.

Exactly, exactly.

FaceTime me from the funeral.

Exactly.

None of that happened?

Thank you. No, nothing.

Okay then. Nope. Second thing is, if he disappeared 3 times, usually it's 3 strikes you out. Thank you.

He's back? Yes.

Why you let him come back?

Because I really love him so much, Karamo. We've been together for 6 and a half years. I have gave my time. I love, and one thing about me, when I love, I love very hard. I love unconditionally.

Yeah.

So like Whitney Houston, so I have nothing, I have nothing left to give anymore.

Yeah.

So if he's gonna be a cheater, then I'm done.

Okay, okay. Yes. So how has Tony's phone been a big issue for you?

It's affecting my work, my job, my mental state, my emotional state and everything, you know?

Got it, got it.

I don't have a peace at home.

What did you want to do when you read the message in this text?

I got very upset. I woke him up outta sleep and I let him know, hey, it's a husband saying that you're texting somebody's wife. You're supposed to be my husband. You're supposed to be, I'm supposed to be your wife. Are you serious?

So another man text him saying, hey, you talking to my wife?

Yes, my wife. Yes.

I don't know if that's worse than hearing, seeing a, a text from a woman saying I mess with? Because there's something about like the husband saying, no, I know my girl. Like it gives it an extra layer.

Yes, that part, that part.

I mean they're both bad, but like. So what did Tony say about the married woman?

Oh, that's somebody that got the wrong number. That's not for me. You know, that has nothing to do with me. Just me.

I ain't messing with no married woman.

Yes, yes.

Got it. So what else are you concerned about in his phone?

Facebook is one of the biggest issues that I have too. So like while I was asleep, I did get like my woman's intuition clicked in. Yeah. All right. That's really wrong. Let's block that. And with that being said, I seen Messenger, like, and we've been together for 7 years almost. He never had a Facebook. So I goes and I see Messenger, something says, oh, well, to have Messenger, you gotta have Facebook. So I scrolls over, there's Facebook. What? Cut it out. So I go sitting in Facebook, all I see is females, females, females. I said, oh no. So I had to delete it.

So you deleted it?

Yes, I did. I deleted it. I sure did. Thank you.

Thank you.

Yes, I did. Yes, I did.

You said, "Jaleeta, is he banned from Facebook?" Hopefully. He's banned from Facebook.

Hopefully, he should be.

How else have you caught Tony cheating?

So he went to work out of town for 6 months. And while he was out of town for 6 months, he came back home. And I see these numbers, like multiple numbers from some random number and multiple text messages.

Yeah.

So here I go, let me just go ahead and call. I call, it's a lady, she's like, "Hey, I've been dating him for over 6 months." He's been staying and living with me while he lives with me. Okay, hold on, receiving mail. She done bought him clothes. What do you?

So let me ask you this, and I do want to hear Tony's side of this 'cause we only getting one side, by the way. Let's be clear. So why would you take Tony back after finding out, and let me go down the list, him disappearing 3 different times, him having another man text and say he messing with her wife, him after the Facebook, and him after this woman marrying. Why would you take it back?

I agree. I agree. Because Karamo, one thing about me, I do love. And like I said, I love hard earlier. And I do have unconditional love. And I've been with him for a while. I don't know.

At some point, there got to be some conditions.

I'm trying to let go. I don't know.

There got to be some conditions.

No, you're right.

Listen, unconditional love works until we got a list. And now one of these got to be a condition of like, let me choose myself.

No, you're right. I do need to learn to let go.

OK. I think it's time to meet Tony and hear his side of all this. Everyone, please welcome Tony to the show.

Yes. OK. Thank you.

They trying to set up here, accuse me. I ain't do nothing wrong. You know? Got more men than I got females.

Oh.

Yeah, yeah, tell your side of the story though.

Oh no, please take a seat for me, Thomaso.

Yes sir, yes sir.

So you think, nice meeting you first of all.

Nice to meet you too.

So yeah, so you saying she has more men? So she's cheating?

From A to Z. Oh.

So when did you learn that she might be cheating?

Uh, regular day basis.

Uh-uh, okay.

Yeah.

So before we get into the cheating, my producer told me that you blame her for a lot of your problems. Why?

I'm not blaming her for a lot of my problems. I blame myself.

You blame yourself for the problems?

For allowing that to even occur.

Okay. So you blame yourself for putting your, staying in a position that you think, that you know is not healthy?

Yes.

Okay then. So you believe she's cheating. So what proof do you have?

It's not about me. I mean, it's not about me. It's really about him. That's what we're here for. It's not about me. It's about his cheating ass. It's about his cheating ass. Well, no, it would be about you too.

It would definitely be about you too.

There's two in a relationship, so.

It ain't three though, so you the third one, I guess.

Okay, yeah, I'm the third.

It's mainly between us two.

Yeah, so what proof do you have that she's cheating?

Yeah, what proof? Late night phone calls.

Okay.

Going in the bathroom downstairs. Leaving the house. Yeah.

I'm at work, I'm at work.

Okay then.

I work hard.

So you've never caught her with another man?

Oh, I caught her plenty of times.

No, you haven't.

You caught her with him plenty of times.

No, you haven't, no, you haven't, no, you haven't.

Okay.

No, no, no. Oh, fabrication.

Fabrication. No, no.

So if you caught her, why not walk away from the relationship?

That's really a lie.

If you caught her, why not walk away from the relationship?

Thank you. If you caught me, why you still here? What you here for?

So I heard that y'all have been on and off sometimes, and now you've been back together for 4 and a half months.

Yes.

Okay. And so that's really the time y'all wanna see if, since y'all come back together, if things are solid.

Yes, we do. Yes, I do. So I can move forward. If not, I'm exiting to the stage left.

Oh yeah, I'm gonna go left, right, shit.

So question, let me go back. Oh yeah, so you like, if you find something in these 4 months since y'all got back together, you're done. Okay, so why does Jaleah want you off, doesn't want you on social media from your opinion?

Why? I don't see why.

Booty, booty, booty rocking everywhere. That's why, that's why. Booty's everywhere.

I see a lot of—

Booty from A to Z, top to the bottom.

I see a lot of shit there too. So what are you talking about? I see a lot of booty on yours too.

Hell yeah.

You see a lot of ass, you see a lot of boobs.

Do you feel your phone is a big problem in your relationship?

Yes.

Yeah.

It is?

The biggest.

Biggest.

The largest.

And why do you think it's a big problem?

The largest.

Every time I go through there, it's something different.

Something different, okay.

Every time.

So what's been going on between you and this woman, [MASKED]? Let's start there.

Please don't.

Oh, [MASKED] is a girl from back—

From where?

Before I met her.

Back before you met her.

That's a lie. That's a lie. So that's, oh, that's when you met her?

That's not a lie.

Okay, 'cause the messages say otherwise though.

I'm making messages.

Okay, so you started talking to her after again. So you met her before me and then you talked to her during me.

Hold on, let me talk.

Go ahead.

Thank you, please.

You're welcome.

So, there's a girl from back in the day before I met her, you know, she really a good girl, you know what I'm saying? Like, she really don't do half of the shit that I've been going through with this one right here.

So, like, you ain't be with her? Why don't you go be with her then? Why is you with me? Wasting my time.

My time working out.

Wasting my shit. Wasting my resources.

So, stop calling my phone.

What you mean?

Stop calling my phone.

You live with me.

You calling me.

You with me. What are you talking about? I do everything.

It don't make sense.

Don't ever forget that.

It don't make sense.

Oh, okay. Now, do everything more.

That part.

Are you still seeing this one?

Are you still seeing this woman?

No, I'm not.

Not at all? Okay.

I don't know, I'm leaving.

Where do you go when you disappear for weeks at a time?

Please.

Work.

Work. Work.

Yeah.

You is not at work. Why is you lying to these people? Don't lie to Karamo, 'cause we gonna get onto the bottom.

If you at work, why not just tell her, you know, like, "Hey, I'm at work." FaceTime her, show her you at work. Where do you work, by the way?

Flooring company.

A flooring company?

Yeah, we travel.

That makes you go away?

We travel.

Yeah, now you know, you know.

We travel.

Yeah.

So the thing earlier is that she told me that when you are gone, that you told her you were at funerals.

No, that was just one time.

Okay. She said it was two different funerals.

Yeah, no, 'cause he was cheating, Karamo. That's what it was about. He was cheating and he lied.

Okay.

'Cause there was no obituary. He didn't come back with no— If that's your granddad and your uncle, when you think he would come back with an obituary or something? Like seriously though, this is like near and dear to your heart.

Do you wanna save this engagement?

Yes, I do.

Why?

I just wanna work on myself, you know, get better.

So you wanna save the engagement to work on yourself?

Yeah.

Hmm.

I wanna work on myself too as well, but I just want us—

But why would saving the engagement help you two to work on yourselves?

It's like a more independent, I would say co-independent thing. That's first and foremost that is taking place as we speaking now, but getting to unlock this phone is a big step in issues so that I can feel more trust and secure and as well as, you know.

Got it.

Thank you.

Well, you said it's to lock the phone, so I guess it's time to unlock the phone.

Yeah. Unlock the phone. Yeah.

Well, hold on. Before we unlock the phone, my producer tell me we have a ping. I'm getting a ping and it's from Tony's brother Edwin, I guess Robin. So let's hear what he gotta say.

Not Robin.

My name is Edwin and I'm Tony's brother. I know for a fact that he's catching her other people in the house while he's home. She's not, and I feel like he shouldn't really, but I understand you got to do what he got to do. Either she, she stopped cheating and people on them and they just, you know, work it out and be a couple. But if it's not gonna work, my advice would be for him to figure out how he can move on from it.

Oh wow.

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Wow.

Okay, so your brother has said a lot there that also confirms on the thing you're saying. He's saying that you are cheating and that you cheated at the house, but he also just said that the reason you're staying without saying it is that because you're basically using her. Is that true?

No, definitely not using her.

Okay. 'Cause your brother just said, "Well, I know why he doing it.

He gotta do what he gotta do." Yeah, it's sounding like that, but that's not the case. I got plenty other more places 2 years ago.

Oh, okay, okay. But so, but the biggest thing is that there's an accusation now that even his brother is saying you are cheating as well.

Yeah, no, that's a lie. I feel like that's a deflection. Okay, that's definitely a deflection.

But that's why we're both unlocking both your phones because you both want that transparency. You want that transparency, you want that transparency. Okay, so Jaleel, let's get to it. We unlocked your phone. Why are you smiling?

Oh no, I'm sorry.

You unlocked her phone? Y'all unlocked her phone too?

Oh, now I know why she was smiling, 'cause Jaleah refused for me to unlock her phone.

It's about his cheating ass. It's about his cheating ass.

I ain't here for him.

But if there is a, if your partner is saying he's questioning it too, and if you're in the clear, why not just say, hey, look at it, like show us everything so that way you walk away saying, you know I didn't do anything.

You right, you right, you right.

Then why you ain't do it? 'Cause I see that smile.

Yeah, because Karamo, we're here for him.

We're here for you as well.

It's a couple.

I know, you right.

You hot now.

Yeah, I'm hot flashing.

I don't know how it was that.

But you know, we do take our breaks and stuff, so I'm working on that.

So something on your break happened?

Oh, well I do, I wanna make this confession really clear that I do have a friend, a male friend that I am talking to. Not sleeping with her, anything like that, but I am talking to just in case this doesn't work. I have a plan A, and plan A don't work out, I got a plan B, and plan B don't work out, I got a plan C, and plan C don't work out.

Put an S on that.

Yes.

Put an S on the end of that.

So she's saying that she has other options that she's holding off on.

Yeah, if it doesn't work out, then see, I'm outta here.

How do you feel about that?

I don't feel good about that at all.

Okay, well it's time to unlock your phone, Tony.

Yeah. Go.

Thank you, that's good for us. Thank you, Karamo.

Okay.

No problem.

Jaleah, you want to know if Tony is on any dating sites. Tony says he's not. When I unlocked the phone, investigators searched his phone and found that Tony— Are you ready to unlock your best self? Key is my new wellness app made for you. Fitness, nutrition, meditation, sobriety, Better relationships, self-love, 6 keys, 1 app. Change starts today. It's not telling the truth. My investigator found that [MASKED] visited a dating site called Partners in Private 3 days ago.

Oh, in private, in private, so I can't see. You thought I can't see, huh?

You're damn right.

Jaleah, you wanna know if Tony is communicating with any of his exes. Tony says he is not. My locked phone investigator searched his texts and found that Tony Is not telling the truth. My investigator found 3 different text changes between 3 different women. Is this for real?

Like, are you fucking serious?

And an unnamed woman.

What?

Please, I will show your kids and your mom that I'm not leaving ever again. Please let me show them.

Oh my God.

I want to spend my life with you. Seriously. That's from you.

Karamo, sit down.

I can't even sit down.

All right, this is the next one. This one says, can I please get you in my life? For what? We belong together. We laugh together and got a great bond. You know that I'm so, don't ask me. I'm not gonna blank anymore. I'm really ready for this.

Yeah, you see it? You see that?

Yeah, we done.

Yeah, okay.

This one says, "Can't wait to wake up next to you every single day for the rest of our lives." Wow, you must have said it, man. I love what you're doing. You tripping. Just want you to know, baby, I love you.

That's who you going with.

Hell yeah.

Yeah, hell yeah, good. I can't wait.

Fuck on over there too.

Your dates are in.

Quick, fast, and in. We done. Hell yeah.

Pack that shit up.

Hell yeah.

Jaleah, we have one more. Jaleah, you wanna know if Tony is direct messaging any women? Tony says he's not. We obviously know that's not true.

Okay.

My locked phone investigator searched his apps and found that Tony is not telling the truth. My investigator discovered that, this is interesting.

I already knew, that's why I gave my phone. No problem.

Good for y'all. Well, it's funny that you say you gave your phone because my investigator discovered that 2 weeks ago Tony did search on Google asking how to delete Facebook account.

You did what?

But hold up, for real. Yeah.

I don't think that happened. But also, but what's really interesting, my investigator also discovered that You reset your phone yesterday before you handed it over.

You is so horny. You's a lame for shit.

What you forget is that when you reset, we can still get it. That's why we got this information.

Thank you. Thank you, Karamo. Thank you so much. Okay. Thank you.

So you weren't really trying to come here and be transparent 'cause you reset it yesterday.

Okay, okay. Thank you, Karamo. Oh my God.

Thank you. Well, the thing is, is that one thing that I heard in this, she already confessed that she got plan ABC and D.

Okay, that's why.

Thank you.

And you clearly already have a plan A and B because you are talking to somebody. The thing that I think is most interesting that I think we should focus on at this point is that you both said that you wanna work on yourselves.

Yeah.

And so it was very interesting to me and why you saw that face when I said, y'all wanna work on yourself? You want the engagement to work on yourselves?

Yes, ma'am.

I made that face because if you wanna work on yourselves, people don't realize that self-work, the keyword is self.

Self.

Right. It's not about being with somebody else.

Yes.

And so if you wanna work on yourself and be better, y'all can't do this together.

Together.

You're right.

Because all you're gonna do is trigger each other.

No, you're right, you're right, you're right.

And clearly now we see neither of y'all happy in this.

Yeah.

You're not happy. We not, I'm not.

You not happy?

I'm really not.

You not happy?

He not.

No.

Y'all not happy.

Not at all.

So why don't y'all just end it instead of coming back to each other?

You're right, you're right. It's time.

Yeah, we definitely gonna end it.

Tell each other.

We gonna end it. Yeah, I feel like we should separate.

Yeah.

I wish you the best of luck though.

But not separate.

It's been real.

Be done because y'all have already done the separate and then come back.

7 years, almost 7 years.

So y'all can't come back?

Yeah, I don't want to.

You don't wanna come back?

I don't want to.

No.

I don't want to.

He's not.

I don't believe you.

He not. I'm not gonna let it go, Karamo. I'm gonna go enjoy myself.

So you're gonna be actually done this time?

Yeah, I am.

Do y'all have kids together?

No. No, thank God.

Oh yeah, so good. She said thank God. Okay, listen, I think, you know, I know you said that you attended a funeral when you were missing, but I think we all just attended the funeral of this relationship.

Okay, thank you.

So listen, I pray that y'all stay apart. And that y'all find happiness with these other people because clearly y'all not happy together.

No, we not.

Okay, and y'all both deserve happiness.

And thank you for letting us see that.

Thank you for allowing us to talk about it. Yeah, of course, y'all both got y'all transparency y'all needed, so good luck, all right?

Thank you.

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