Our 4-Month-Old Needs Us to Be Together | KARAMO

Welcome to the show. My guest Zakira says she is sick and tired of her boyfriend Jaquan accusing her of cheating. Zakira and Jaquan have been together for almost 3 years and recently welcomed their first child together. Zakira called the show because she wanted me to unlock her phone and finally prove the truth to Jaquan. We are going to meet Zakira in a minute, but first take a look at what she has to say about her relationship.

I have been with my boyfriend Jaquan for the last 4 years, but his family has been trying to tear us apart. His family accused me of having multiple affairs. I have never cheated on Jaquan, but I also caught Jaquan cheating on me with numerous women, and it's unacceptable. Jaquan's family member called my daughter a bitch the day before I gave birth to her. The stress had me so mad I had to go into labor 3 days early before my daughter's original due date. The doctor told Jaquan that my blood pressure was so high, they didn't know if I can make it or not. Jaquan's family members even threatened to beat me up the day that I came home from the hospital. Jaquan has put me through hell and back for the last 2 years, and I'm sick of it. Jaquan is always listening to his family members, but what he needs to realize is that me and his daughter are family as well. Jaquan, I've been telling the truth. Believe me, please, I beg of you.

Everyone, welcome 22-year-old Zakira to the show. Zakira, how are you doing, love? Hi, Drew. Good to meet you. Thank you for being here. So Zakira, I wanna know first of all, 'cause I heard something shocking in that. What happened the day that your child was born?

It's hard for me to talk about 'cause I get really emotional when I talk about it. So my daughter was called a bitch the day before I gave birth to her. And the doctor was telling him that they don't know if I was gonna make it or not. So they had to do emergency C-section and I was scared for my life and especially for my daughter's life. So that was something that I was bothered and mentally tragically upset about. Yeah. So.

So I'm very sorry to hear that. So you say it all comes down to the family. Yes. That's dealing with causing these issues. Why?

Well, this has happened way before I was pregnant. His family never liked me. I don't know why. I haven't did anything to them for them not to like me. I never disrespected them. I never disrespected Jaquan. It just constantly disrespect. And now it's disrespect going towards my daughter and that's unacceptable. Any parent would not allow someone to disrespect their child.

Yeah.

My producers told me that the family members threatened to beat you up the day you got out the hospital.

Yes.

What happened?

So from my understanding, his family members called him and told him, "Where your girlfriend at? I'm trying to beat her up." And Jaquan said, "Well, that's not gonna happen." And he told his family members, "You hanging onto a situation that is dead." So I was confused. So at the time I wanted to break up because I was sick of the threats. I'm just sick of it.

I can't imagine a young woman having a child and hearing that the child's father wants to fight you. Was he the one who conveyed that information to you?

Yes.

Why did he convey that information to you?

Because he doesn't care. It's been plenty of times where he actually called people to physically touch me, fight me, the mother of his child. What type of man does that? I'm the mother of your first child.

So tell me, what happened with Jaquan's ex-girlfriend?

So we were in the bed and his phone constantly keep going off. I'm like, what the hell was that? I'm trying to sleep. I gotta work in a few hours. Come to find out it was his ex-girlfriend. FaceTiming him. Why are you and your ex still keeping in contact with each other? If that was the case, then you should have never started a relationship if you were still in love with her. You're wasting my time.

So my producers told me that when you saw that he was still communicating with the ex-girlfriend, you said, you know what, to solve this, I'm gonna get you a new phone with a brand new number.

Yes.

And so you did that, but what happened to that new phone?

I shattered it. You wanna shatter me? I'm gonna shatter something that I bought for you. I pay your phone bill. You don't do anything. I clean up after you. I cook for you. I send you money when you want to.

Mm-hmm. So let me get this straight. You got him a new phone and a new number so that he would not have communication with the ex. And then he gave the ex the new number.

Yes. Then he said, "Oh, I thought it was you." First of all, all the phones that I had that I bought him, my number is saved in his phone.

So you're sending some screenshots. I wanna see those.

Yes.

Of what you found on the phone. So.

So.

So is this your number, the 240?

No, this is an ex-girlfriend number. Hey handsome. I'm the only one that should be calling you handsome. Hey beautiful, where you at? Why does it matter where she's at? I'm outside waiting in the car, waiting for you. First of all, you shouldn't be going outside seeing her.

Okay, give me 6 minutes. I got my daughter getting, her ready and she's going over her mom's. So he clearly knows this is not you 'cause he's saying, I'm gonna take her to the mom's house. Okay, is there any other texts that we have? When are you gonna have my second child? I told you me and her has been off, so stop playing with your sexy ass. Take me out on a date. You send me some money. So he's saying to this girl, is saying to him, send me some money.

Yes.

Just take it out of her bank account.

My bank account.

"Okay, that's good. Don't tell her either. Okay, sounds good. Meet me tonight at 8:30.

Okay, Daddy." I'm the only one that should be calling him Daddy.

Why does he wanna unlock your phone?

Because every time he gets caught into the middle of cheating, he wants to throw the blame on me. And I did it because I want him to feel comfortable that I'm loyal to him.

All right, I know we are all ready to meet Jaquan, right? All right, well everyone, help me welcome Jaquan to the show. Well, hold on, we still have to hear Jaquan's side of the story. Y'all know, both sides. How you doing, Jaquan?

How you doing?

Nice to meet you. Nice to come on. Jaquan, I always start off by asking a simple point-blank question. Have you cheated on Zakirah?

No, I have not. And she thinking I'm cheating, but she won't show me her phone, but she like to go to my phone.

I always show you my phone.

No, you don't.

Yes, you do.

No, you don't.

Yes, I do.

You like to go to my phone, but you won't show me your phone.

Yes, I always do.

Okay, maybe you cheating.

I never cheated a day in my life when we was in a relationship, so lie again.

So you haven't?

No, I have not.

My family actually caught you cheating.

What?

Yes.

First of all, why is your family worried about what I'm doing? They don't like me. They never have liked me. Even before I retired, they never liked me.

Because they love me and they gonna tell me the truth.

You don't love me.

Yes, I do.

Okay, whatever.

So J'Quan, I need to go back to this 'cause this is a big revelation. You're saying that your family has actually caught Zakirah cheating before?

Yes. She going out to date, she leave my daughter in the house with her mother, I mean with her family member.

What proof do you have? You listen to he say, she say. What proof do you have?

Okay, well if my family tell me this, of course I'm gonna believe them because they love me.

What pictures, what videos, what messages?

Come on, mama, you see what I'm dealing with? I deal with this every day. She wanna argue, she wanna fuck with me, but she never wanna deal with the stuff that she doing.

But the thing is, is that she is asking a valid question because do you have any proof other than just what your family has said?

No, I do not have no proof.

Have they done anything?

No, I do not have no proof.

You don't have any proof of her or what your family has said, but we do have proof of your text messages with other women.

Mm-hmm.

So can you tell me what's going on with these screenshots with these women that you have showed me? She's calling you handsome.

I thought that was her because she text me off multiple numbers or multiple apps just to see if I'm cheating on her or not. But she can be doing the same thing.

Hold on, so have you texted him on multiple apps before to trick him into being another woman?

Absolutely not.

Yes, he has.

Why she call me handsome? I'm the only one that text him. That should be calling you handsome. That don't make sense.

And I know I'm handsome.

But you having the other female call you handsome. She calling you daddy. I'm the only one that should be calling you daddy.

She don't never want me to tell my side of the story, but she always wanna play the victim.

Well, I'm listening to your side of the story. I don't know yet. I don't feel yet that she's playing the victim. What I hear is her giving actual complaints to things that I'm seeing. So I don't wanna label you as a victim or any of that stuff. But you are in a sense, not giving us any explanation other than I thought it was her to you clearly saying I'm gonna go on a date with another woman.

Okay, but if you breaking up with me on multiple occasions, of course I'm gonna go out and do me.

Why you coming to my house?

Because my daughter there.

So you're saying you two argue a lot like this?

Yes.

But I know there's a 4-month baby that you just had. Do you sometimes think that maybe that part of like having a brand new baby, the stress of everything could be causing friction in your relationship? Wow, that is a beautiful baby.

Thank you.

And you could clearly see, Karamo, that I love my daughter.

I believe that.

So you should not be questioning about me, what I'm doing or what I'm doing. What I'm doing when I go out, I go to work, I take care of my business.

So we heard on the day that your baby was born that your family member had called your child the B-word and also had also said the next day that they want to, your family member said they wanna fight her.

Yes, but I was there for her and my daughter. When my family member said that, I defended her, but she gotta understand.

I absolutely did. You gotta understand. Because your family member called her more B-I-T-C-H on multiple occasions.

Every time.

Is that true though? Is that true?

Yes, it is. But I was the one that was defending her, okay? I was the one that was by your side. I was there for you. I love you and I love our daughter. She's beautiful just like you. I don't cheat on you. I would never wanna cheat on you.

All right everyone, before the break we heard from Shakira and Jaquan. We will unlock Zakirah's phone in a second. But first, Jaquan, what do you think I'm gonna find on Zakirah's phone?

Well, to be honest, I think you're gonna find different things. She might be texting some other people.

Like who?

Other men.

Name, name, name.

You tell me on multiple occasions that you gonna text other men while I'm at work. And you gonna tell 'em come over.

What's their name?

I don't know their names 'cause you don't tell me their names.

Have you ever said that, that you're gonna text multiple men?

Nope, nope, not at all.

Never said that?

No.

So I think it's time that we see what we found on Takira's phone. Are you ready for this? Okay, let's go. So on your phone, we checked apps, texts, and photos. We scrubbed all of them and we found zero suspicious activity. We then went through text messages to see if there was any text messages with anyone, any guys, anything from work, anyone that could possibly say, well, she's having some interaction. We found zero text messages. And when it came to photos, we looked through photos, there were zero photos on the phone. So there was no sexual activity.

Can I get an apology?

Okay, so as a man, I apologize for accusing you. Okay. Okay, I was wrong at that time. But you cannot keep accusing me when I love you and I love my daughter.

Well, hold on, hold on. I'm gonna stop you because this is where I know how to handle this. So the thing is, is that you can't say you stop accusing me because I've heard this right here on this show. You have not addressed the fact honestly that in the beginning you broke the trust. I don't know what you've been doing since, but I read the messages where you were talking to somebody else. What needs to happen if you wanna have healthy communication and build this family like you said you want to, you gotta own up now and say, "Yes, I did that and I will be better." Because the thing is, the more that you try to make her feel crazy, the more you gaslight her and be like, "Oh no, you're not seeing what you're seeing." It's only causing more issues. She was hurt by the fact that she saw something. You wanted us to go through her phone. We didn't find a single thing. So from what we know and from what you all have shared, she has not done anything. So then all we know is that you broke the trust because you did something. So it doesn't matter if y'all on a break, it doesn't matter if she pissed you off, it doesn't matter about any of that. All that matters is that the trust was broken and she needs a sincere apology without anything else. Can you give her that sincere apology?

Okay, yes, I done cheated and I apologize and I know you was hurt, but I just want things to work out with me and you, not just because I love you, but because we have a beautiful daughter.

So I know you want things to work out. So what actions are you gonna take to show her, yes, I can actually show you that I can trust you?

By being a better man and showing you that I can be a better man.

What does being a better man mean?

Being there for you and my daughter.

What does being a better man mean?

I won't do it no more and I apologize.

So if you say I wanna be a better man, it's saying, hey, I'm gonna communicate with you. So if you text me, even if I'm on my lunch break and I'm busy, I'm just gonna say I received it. Let me call you back later. Can you do that to be a better man?

Yes.

What else do you need from him to be a better man for you?

Just respecting me and my daughter. Put boundaries between his family and me.

So if you have family that contacts you, Don't pass that on to her. And if they do continue the behavior, you gotta be clear and say, this is my family. You respect it and you respect me and my lady. And that's what you have to do. Can you do that?

Yes.

I believe that. But just because I gave him some lessons, girl, I'm on you too. Let me be very clear, okay? I'm gonna ask you one simple question before I tell you my thoughts. You kept saying, You hurt me, I'm gonna hurt you. You stomp me, I'm gonna stomp you. You tore me up, I'm gonna tear you up. Who taught you that?

I'm gonna be honest. My mom. My mom. Mm-hmm. Well, I can admit I have a very, very bad temper. I have an attitude.

I know, I already know all that, girl. You ain't gotta explain what, you don't gotta explain the obvious. Thank you for being honest. I don't know your mother, but I appreciate you saying that that's where you picked up that behavior. 'Cause that learned behavior is not healthy. And the reason I asked you where do you pick that up is because the same way you pick that up, your daughter's gonna pick that up.

Yes.

And you don't want that for your child.

I want my daughter to be the best she can be. I don't want her to follow in the same footsteps that I was growing up.

I know what strength it has taken for you as a Black woman in this world to stand tall, to continue on, to love yourself, to still be thriving and do what you gotta do. Don't make your daughter's life harder by making her feel like if someone hurts her, she gotta hurt them back. There's other ways for her to protect herself and love herself. And it starts by her mom showing her, I love you and I protect you. So if something happens, you communicate with me. Because the reason that you don't do it is because I'm sure you don't feel like you can communicate with your mom, right?

Yes.

Y'all don't have a good relationship?

No, I usually talk to my sister.

What would happen if your daughter said one day she don't wanna have a relationship with you because of your attitude?

That's gonna break me to pieces.

Well, the change starts now.

Okay.

So for you as a family unit, that's how you resolve the issues y'all are having when y'all start arguing. Y'all are young parents and there's a little girl that I believe needs y'all and knows needs y'all. And I believe y'all can be better. But if y'all don't stop this communication stuff right now and this tit for tat and all these things, You controlling his life. This is gonna get worse and worse. Get that boy a phone. Yeah, actually not get that boy a phone. You get your own damn phone. Okay? You get your own phone.

Yeah.

How do you feel now that you got results and you know she's not cheating?

I feel much better now and I do apologize and I do want you to know that I love you and I want things to work out. Not just for us, but just for our daughter.

I apologize too.

Here we go. Give each other a hug. Y'all gonna be all right. Y'all gonna be all right. Hold on, where you going? I'll tell you where you're going. Right here to subscribe and right here to watch more.

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