Our Relationship Is Too Good To Be True, I Just Know She's Lying! | KARAMO

Hey friends. So my guest Antonio says there is no such thing as a loyal woman. Well, his girlfriend Avianca reached out desperate for my help in clearing her name and we are going to unlock her phone and let the truth set them free. All right. Avianca and Antonio have been together for the past 9 months and she says it has been nothing but chaos. Let's watch this message. From Antonio.

Women are like PlayStation. All they're good for is games. And I'm sick of it. It's hard to find a trustworthy woman these days when you got a million other people and options at your fingertips every day, every morning when you wake up. I'm a no-nonsense kind of guy, OK? I've been cheated on in the past countless times, so I know all the signs. You won't catch me ignoring not one red flag. Not one. I've always been a free spirit, and I'm good with being dolo. You know, I just don't want the games anymore. I wanna know if this relationship with A'Bianca is too good to be true. It's time I get some peace of mind and I wanna find out if there is a virtuous woman out here. Karamo, you know, I would dedicate myself to her and make this relationship work if she is being faithful like she say she is. But Karamo, if you unlock her phone and she turns out like all these other hoes, it's game over.

I know. Well, listen, before we meet him, Let's meet his girlfriend. Everyone, welcome A'Bianca to the show. Hey, A'Bianca. How you doing? May I have a hug?

Hello.

Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Girl.

Tell me about it, okay?

What do you think about what you just saw?

I don't like it. Like, I don't like it at all. Like, my feelings are hurt. How y'all feel about it? Like, if you was hearing that every day, you wouldn't like it either.

So why did you agree to unlock your phone?

To prove my point, to prove that I'm not out to sabotage this man or hurt this man.

So I gotta go back because I need to know how you met Antonio.

Okay, so we met online, you know, this day and age. And we started off as casual. It wasn't nothing serious. I kind of seen his ways. So I let him do his thing and he came back around like he was serious. So that's why I gave it a chance.

Got it.

So, and we're here.

So he moved all the way to California, my producer told me, without you.

So he was in Virginia where we're from and then he, said that yeah, he wanted to try to make it work, things like that. And I didn't hear from him for about 2 weeks and I called him again and he's in California.

And so what was his explanation of like?

Job.

Job.

Work.

Okay, so he says, I wanna commit, I wanna go further. He ghosts you and then when he reappears, he's in another state. Okay, so I gotta go back because he said no woman's loyal. He said, He needs to see if there's a virtuous woman out here in this world.

Right.

So what are the things he accuses you of?

What doesn't he accuse me of? Okay, like, I can go to the store and I'm accused of shit, okay? Like, sorry, sorry.

At the store?

At the store, at the store, at my job. So I'm an esthetician, so I work with people's body parts and stuff like that. That's the problem sometimes. Like, I come home, oh, I'm getting accused of shit. Oh, I took literally 10 minutes too long for him. And that's what I'm sick of. Like, I'm tired of it.

Okay, so I have my own opinion on this. I'm not gonna make my judgment until I meet him, but do you feel that he has trust issues when it comes to women? Oh, yes. Because trust issues will show up in the most toxic ways. Come on now. Listen, listen. You think Antonio's been faithful to you?

No, at all.

Wow.

Like, because I feel like the person that's pointing the fingers is the one that's doing it. So if you're constantly telling me that I'm doing this, I'm doing that, every time I step out the door, you're doing it.

Yeah.

So.

Have you ever had proof? Have you ever caught him?

I personally reached out to someone I thought, but we'll see.

Yes or no?

We'll see.

'Cause I'm unlocking his phone too.

Yeah, I know. That's why I said we'll see. Like, we'll see.

Are y'all ready to meet Abiyaka's man? Well everyone, I think it's time to unlock the truth by meeting Antonio. Welcome Antonio to the show, right?

Which way you coming out?

What's up? What's up? Nice to meet you. Hi. Okay, listen, we heard you had a lot to say about unfaithful women. Yeah, yeah. So why do you think Abianca is a unicorn?

Because she got everything that I was out there looking for in a woman, you know? Like, and one woman.

But still steady accusing me.

Hold on, but in one woman, you know what I mean? And I'm content with being out there in the streets and just getting what I need from multiple women. These days, they just listen. If anybody out there think that it's okay for their girlfriend, any man anyway, to go to the bar by herself, you're wrong. No, no, no, no.

No, first of all, your woman is working hard.

There's no reason.

And she has multiple hustles.

It still ain't no reason.

Okay, and she's going out once maybe every 2 months or something like that, you call that a problem?

Yeah, listen.

Like.

I'm only saying that because, I'm only saying that, Karamo, because I was the guy, okay, in the bars.

In the parking lot.

Me and my guys, we got it down to a science.

'Cause y'all was hoes, I gotta come out.

We stopped going to the bars and just went right before they closed and catch 'em as they coming out the door. And I wasn't trying to be with nobody like that.

Well, she just said something that's real and you didn't answer that. She said just because you was a hoe, she ought to be labeled a hoe?

No, but it keeps me, it keeps my eyes open.

So you told my producers that Avianca and her friends are like the same city girls. Now don't come for the city girls, okay?

She told me her friend was like that out in the bars. She don't never go with none of her friends to no restaurants.

Going to a bar is a city.

They don't go shopping. They always in the bar, man. What is the purpose of going to the bar?

That's her purpose.

To socialize.

To socialize. What can you do at the bar you can't do at home?

Okay, somebody said turn up. But like, well sometimes people just wanna not be in their house and be able to go out.

What's the core of it? The core of it is—

I'm not sure.

To be with my girlfriends. To chill with them, to have me drink after I've been at work all day.

So we have a beautiful pic of you. Is this how you go to the bar?

Look, I ain't even got that in my phone.

You look gorgeous. Thank you.

Yes, you look gorgeous.

Jeans and a t-shirt.

I'm just saying there's no reason to go to no bars if you're in a relationship because when I was going to the bars, it was just for that one sole purpose. I'm just saying, look, I brought it up to her before. Look, we can just be cool. We don't have to be in a relationship. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, he wanna still be cool and still come over and still get all the benefits. Like, no.

Okay. Listen, in the video we just watched, you said if Avionca was faithful to you, you would dedicate yourself.

For sure though, yeah, I'd cut it off. I'd cut all my road running and my, you know, I can cut all that stuff off. And I know y'all saying, listen.

So are you going out there cheating? Are you doing stuff?

No, I'm not cheating. But what I will say, I'm a chess playing man, okay? And listen, I apply everything in chess to life, okay? So I know I can't control her, but the only thing I can control is how I counter. Got it.

All right, listen, Will, I know that my audience has a lot of comments on what y'all just heard. Y'all got something to say? All right, let's take it to the comments. All right, what's your name?

Hi, I'm Rachel.

Hey Rachel, so what's your comment?

I just gotta say, man, like, this is all on you. You know, like, if you can't trust her, you're gonna be alone forever. Yeah, that's what it is.

Well, I was cool with being alone.

Okay, then why are you saying you're gonna commit to her?

Because she said—

If you actually love her, then you trust her.

So, well, you know, one of the main things is trust issues.

Yeah, I said that though.

They're deep. So why, if you have these trust issues, why would you commit? You just said I was happy to be alone.

Because if I'm gonna commit, it gotta be to somebody that, you know what I mean? Like, it's a unicorn, like I said, that ain't cheating, man.

All right, whatever.

What she got?

Hello, hi.

Hi.

Hi. I'm Bianca, nice to meet you. Do you have any concrete proof besides your own suspicions?

No, all I got is my experience.

Yeah, exactly, but it's not with her.

It's not?

But it's not with her, so then why are you putting it on her?

Can I ask you a question?

But if she had her— No, you can't. But if she had—

You asking me one?

Yeah.

'Cause I'm not gonna answer it.

But I can.

No.

I'm not gonna answer it.

But the thing is, if she were to say—

I'm not gonna answer it.

Let me finish.

If she were to say— I'm not gonna answer it.

Okay, you're not gonna, but I'm still gonna ask.

Well, would you mind if I would sit it down?

You gonna let me talk? Thank you.

Why, 'cause of Karamo?

No, because I'm talking, that's it. I'm not your girl, so you're not gonna disrespect me.

Well, who are you?

I'm Bianca, like I said.

Well, I'm Bianca, I don't wanna talk to you.

Who are you?

You don't have to talk to me, but you're gonna listen because he gave me the mic.

I wasn't finished speaking, did I say I was?

So you gonna ask her my question after you finish?

Yeah, I could.

It's up to you.

Okay, I'm listening.

You're holding your past or whatever against her, Say if she was dating somebody else, she's dealing with her hurt and everything like that. Say she's like, okay, well this guy slept with my best friend, this guy did this, whatever. So you must be doing it too because I felt that.

If you said that she says those same things, do you feel it's fair to you? 'Cause you're a man.

If I know it's not true, I'd just be like, man, that's crazy. 'Cause that's not true. I feel like it's fair for people to learn from their past experiences and not make the same stupid mistakes.

Okay, learn from it, but don't treat somebody that you're currently dealing with wrong. We'll see. Yeah, we'll see.

You wouldn't wanna hear no? Nah.

I understand that you've been hurt. I do, I get it.

Hey look, this ain't even about me in the sense of— Say it one more time.

This is about you because you're the one that has trust issues. You're the one that's been hurting.

Yeah, yeah, I'm the one who went through all the, and I took a vow like I ain't doing that again.

I get it.

I'll dip before I let something like that happen. You are amazing, Avey, I swear. But I'm not gonna get like played with. No more.

I never tried to play with you and I tried to show you that I'm great.

That's all it be. Like that's all it is for me.

But I still got all of that no matter what I did.

Yeah.

That's all it is for me.

Okay.

It ain't nothing else.

It is time to unlock their phones. All right, so, hey Bianca, I'm gonna start because we're gonna unlock his phone, Antonio's phone first. Well, I'm gonna be quick with yours because the only thing I already know about your phone, the only thing that we found in your phone was these conversations with the woman. I didn't find anything suspicious in apps. I didn't find any suspicious photos, but we did find the conversations between you and this young woman, but there has been no recent conversations. And I also was searching for sexual stuff, which I was gonna see if you was gonna admit to something, but I didn't say they had sex. It was exactly, I think, what you already found out.

Exactly.

Did you find out something else?

With applause.

So I can send a good morning hello, but he can get an ass pic sent to him? No.

All right, so.

Let's get to that one.

Now we have your phone that we unlocked there, Bianca. And Bianca, I wanna, Antonio, I wanna know what do you think we're gonna find in this?

Something, 'cause you did her second.

That's why?

Yeah.

You think because I did her second, you think we're gonna find something?

For sure.

Okay. Well listen, I unlocked your phone and I did the same search that we did on his phone as well. And I'm gonna tell you that when going through apps, texts, photos, going through locations, there was not a single thing.

Come on now, talk about it. Talk about it.

Come on, Karamo Brown. Talk about it. 1-0-0-0.

Thank you very much.

Okay.

0 was found in there.

Talk about it. So nothing else in there. Look, still looking for stuff.

Nothing. Nothing.

Damn.

Damn.

Nothing.

I do want to apologize. Let me apologize. That's crazy. Appreciate that, man.

No worries. But you're not going to appreciate what I'm going to say next. I'm going to tell you.

This is wild. Can I say something first?

No, you already said it. This ain't a healthy relationship.

Come on now. This is not healthy. I've been saying that.

There is nothing that will happen in this relationship except for you being in a toxic relationship because he has to heal. I'm not telling you that you're gonna need to leave today. That has to be a decision. My advice to you would be that you need to separate from this relationship because if you said you have not been in a past relationship that was unhealthy, don't get yourself in one now. And it's only been 9 months y'all been together? 9 months. And even prior to that, he had ghosted you, went to California and whatever the reasons may be, this is unhealthy. You don't deserve this unhealthy relationship. But at the same rate, brother, I will tell you, you deserve to heal because what it is is that I saw how you interacted with this woman. I saw how you interacted with Bianca. I see your interaction with women and the way that you react with women is from a place of hurt and you are deeply hurt.

Okay.

No, I'm gonna ask, you know, in all sincerity, how many women have hurt you?

Good 5.

Yeah, good 5.

Yeah.

That's a lot. Just one is a lot.

Can't have 6.

Yeah, I get it.

And that's the reason why I've been dealing with this.

I know, but that's not your job. I have a show, I'm trained in this. I'll be sensitive for him. You can't be in a space where you keep getting yourself sucked into this. I get it's your friend. What you crying about right now? Tell me what's happening.

I love him, he knows that.

I love this girl too. Like I'm not here to hurt her.

I didn't do nothing wrong. I know, I know, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it.

Besides, listen, hey, besides, listen, besides all the abuse and everything.

You can't be his friend and support him from a distance.

You can if that's, I'm just saying, you know how I am, man. Like, you know how I am. I'm not gonna change 'cause we here or none of that.

Hold on, but see what I wanna do and this is the hope I want, hold on. I want hope because, well, it can seem like a red flag and we've already seen all his red flags. He put 'em out there. But I do believe this for you. I actually do believe that there's a space in you to grow. I do believe it. And I believe that this woman, the reason she says she loves you so much that she's crying is because there is a piece of you that has to be a good man.

He is, like, he's not bad at all. It's just all the stuff that he's been through, he's projected it on me and it's like I did not go into the relationship with any of that. You know, like I've been hurt before too. Like, yeah.

All right, you can change though.

I am going to, I guess. Yeah, I mean, you ain't find nothing. Obviously I'm wrong.

Yeah, listen, would you have to just—

No, I don't need no guess though. I said I really can't go off with no guess.

You already know.

I want to say the same thing I'd say to a female guest. You did not You did not deserve to be cheated on. You did not deserve to be cheated on.

Point blank.

But the problem is, is that until you heal these past trust issues, until you deal with the core, y'all are gonna run into this issue again because it's gonna be one thing you do where you're too late, where you talk to somebody too much and it's gonna trigger his emotions. Until you heal, and this is what it comes down to in a relationship, if both people come in healed, that's when you see a healthy relationship. When you see somebody who's not healed and the other person trying to say, let me fix you, I'm gonna fix you, it ain't ever gonna work.

Yeah, all right.

And that's what you're doing right now. You said, I know you're not healed, but I love you so much, I'm gonna fix you, I'm gonna fix you. But he gotta fix himself.

For sure.

He gotta fix himself. And you can be his friend and love him from a distance. And if you really want help to fix yourself, I can give you the resources to figure out how to trust again.

Okay.

When he's ready, that's when you say, okay, we can try this again. But not a minute before. All right? And I'mma got you. I'mma give you some stuff so you can get over this. All right?

I appreciate that.

'Cause I feel like if we can get you back to that place, ooh, you gonna be a good guy. But right now it is clouded and red flags.

I am a good guy. I'm a good guy.

Yeah. All right, but good luck, y'all. All right?

Appreciate that. No worries.

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