“She Played Me": Lesbian Lovers Exposed | KARAMO

It's not a two-way street, right? No, it's just me, right? That's what you're saying, it's just me? Because I'm not saying it's just you. I've got to the point where it's tit for tat. When you hurt me, I can't help but lash out. I have nothing left. All I do is lash back out at you. When you hurt my feelings, I go after you in every way I can think of, 'cause I want you to see how bad you hurt me. I want you to hurt as bad as me. So you saying, so you telling me that when you say, oh, I wanna go fuck this person, you not satisfying me, I wanna go fuck that man, I wanna go fuck that woman. We never have sex with that man. How can you say anything about a man when you're with a whole female? How? Because it bothers you? You need to choose what you want. This is real life, please. I want you. This is real life. You are the first person in my whole life I have ever been faithful to. And you're right, you are a female. And we don't have sex. And I am still faithful. I'm gonna come over here with you a little bit 'cause I already know she's gonna get a little aggressive. I'm not.

Shay, did you feel more free in jail than you feel now?

Do I feel more free in jail?

Yeah. Than you do in this house? Oh yeah.

Because it's something, I feel like I'm isolated. I'm from the city. She's from the country. It's a difference. We come from two different environments. I want to go travel and work. I'm used to traveling. I can't even go travel 'cause this girl be like, I be like, "Babe, you know I'm not making the money that I'm supposed to be making here 'cause this is a low economy, like a low income environment we live at. So therefore I wanna branch out and go somewhere else and make a higher income for not only me, but to provide for you and the kids. But how am I supposed to do that when you all, you tell me if you go, you don't even have to come back." Do you say that? I do. Okay. If she wants to leave me, she can leave, but she—

I got it. Okay, I got it. Shay, Heather also turned over her phone to our unlock the phone investigator. And Shay, you want to know a couple things as well. Has Heather been communicating with a specific list of men? If Heather has been using any apps to communicate with other men and women? And if Heather has been communicating with your brother, his name is Trevon? Yes. Trevon?

Yes, Trevon.

And if Heather has any explicit photos on her phone? What's on the line for you if any of that stuff comes out?

We're done. I can't deal with that because of the simple fact that I'm not finna keep putting these kids in an unhealthy situation. I love those kids to death, but at the end of the day, I can't go to courthouse for them kids. I go to courthouse with my son, but I can't go to courthouse for them kids. Don't matter how much I love you.

Before we get to the emotional results, Shay's brother Trey is here. Please welcome Trey to the show.

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Hey, Karamo. Can I talk my shit right quick? This relationship toxic as fuck. Shay, you could do way better than her. And I'm going ahead and correct you, bro, about that shit, bro. I don't give a fuck about no camera right now. I'm going ahead and correct that shit, bro. At the end of the day, underneath this skin, bro, we bleed the same thing. We got the same vessels. We got all that shit, bro. Whether you man or female, real shit, bro. On God, bro. And first of all, let me go ahead and tell you something. I would never, ever, ever Look, what looks good in the inside doesn't mean it look good on the outside to me, baby. Let's go ahead and correct that right now. I would never, ever, ever in my life sleep with you. And second of all, Shay, lemme go ahead and tell you something. Hold up, what? What you about to say? I seen pictures of bitches he bein' with.

Yeah, they some fuck all that.

Are you kidding me? What you got to say about that? You too good of a girl to be with some shit like this. That's trash. You too good of a person to be with somebody that's like, that's gonna belittle you and treat you like shit. And you think I just started doing it for no fucking reason? Man, you a piece of shit. You a piece of shit. My sister helped got your kids back. My sister got a job, she take care of you, she take care of your shit. I could give a fuck. You started controlling me, I can't wear makeup no more, I can't wear what I wanna wear no more. I can't even speak to no man anymore.

I don't care if they're 79, 70 years old.

I can't even speak to a man without you pressing on me, even at my job.

Okay, Trey, I'm gonna say this, Trey. Trey, what I do appreciate is what you've told and shared that lets me know is that your conduct when she's not around. And I think that's one of the most important things.

Says the one who's been hooking him up with girls in the background in the first place.

She toxic, bro. Well, listen, Trey, I appreciate your perspective. I appreciate what you shared with me. And I think it's time to unlock the phone.

Unlock, unlock, unlock, unlock.

Heather, we unlocked your phone.

Never had a lock on it.

Okay. Shay wants to know if Heather has been communicating with a specific list of men. Heather says she has not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her phone and found that Heather is telling the truth. Shay, you wanna know if Heather has been using any apps to communicate with other men and women. Heather says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her apps and found that Heather is not communicating with anyone, but she has had visited 4 different hardcore porn sites in the past couple of weeks. Now this is specific Based on, girl, it's on your phone. It's on yours.

What you been watching? I've watched porn one time in the last 2 years. One time.

Well, the sites have been visited. We find all of it. Okay, then the ones who are watching porn, stop. What was specific about it, I guess, is that the fact that it's male porn.

I don't watch porn on your phone. Then why is it there? I don't watch porn on your phone. I watch porn on my own phone when it's needed.

Yeah, male and female. I got it.

I told you I watched porn before.

I think, well, the reason that my investigator pointed that out is just because of the fact that the sites were there and that it was female and male porn that was watched. And I know that was one of the insecurities.

Is that the thing you— No, I don't watch female and male porn no more. I watch—

That's just what we found. That's just what we found. That's not what I watch. That's what we found. Shay, you wanna know if Heather has any explicit photos on her phone. Heather says she does not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her photos and found that she is not telling the truth. My investigator found 2 suspicious photos of Heather on her phone of men. Can I see these? Yeah, of course you do. Hold on, it says they're not explicit in nature, so I'm not sure what it is. So let me see what this is.

Hey, smartphones don't lie.

Smartphones don't. Now you know why we unlock phones. They don't lie. All right, here we go. Let me see this.

Who's this? That's my dad.

Okay, got it. Okay.

That's my dad.

That's your dad too?

That's my dad.

Oh my God. Okay, we just gotta ask. Makes sense. Now we understand. All right, so you have this. Shay, now it's time to unlock your phone. All right, here we go. All right, Heather, you wanna know if Shay has sent any explicit photos and videos to other women on her phone. Shay says she has not. She has not. My unlock the phone. Investigator searched her phone and found that Shay is not telling the truth. My investigator found over 17,000 photos, 391 videos, and found.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Can we see those? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Whoa, whoa.

So 17,000 photos. Not all explained, they're explicit in nature, but they're enough to flag my investigation. He said that she—

You can't see the pictures?

You think I'm gonna print up 17,000 photos?

No. Are they recent?

I'm not gonna print up that much.

Are they recent?

What happened?

Are they recent?

It's all in her phone. Yeah. There was one suspicious video she made with the caption, "This how I ride ya." What is that about?

Oh, that's just a video of me dancing. That's not, that's nothing explicit with no female or nothing. It's me dancing.

Got it, okay then, cool. Okay, perfect. Heather, you wanna know secondly if Shay has been communicating with specific women. Shay says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched Shay's phone and found that she's not telling the truth. He found 3 female names in her contacts that were recently deleted. Heather, you wanna know if Shay has specific apps on her phone to communicate with other women. Shay says she does not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched Shay's apps and found that she is not telling the truth. My investigator found two different apps, WhatsApp and Telegram. Do you communicate with other people on those?

Yeah, she knows about both of those apps. I don't talk to any females on those apps.

Okay. Now what I've noticed in this moment is, like I said before from the beginning, neither one of you have ever been able to really communicate your wants or desires. You both came from a fragile state and got into another state where it became codependent. And this codependent relationship has turned completely toxic. I can tell you where this is gonna go. And I say this professionally. In another year, your brother is right. If y'all stick in this relationship, it is gonna turn violent. It is going, so there is gonna be someone who's gonna react and that reaction is going to be bad. She, you're still in this place right now where you're dealing with your emotions, especially your emotions and your anxiety after dealing with years of addiction. And she still has to handle that. Are you seeing counseling still? Okay, good. So I'm glad that you have that. So that allows you to be able to monitor your feelings and try to manage them. But y'all not doing a good job. You met in jail, but you're still policing each other right now. And if I could give y'all any advice right now, it's for you. To end this and then you have to take the steps to move on. Why did you want another girlfriend?

She was lacking in some areas, but not enough to where like I wanted to leave her.

What are the areas that you felt like she was lacking?

Probably like sexually. Like I was her first girlfriend, you know? So like I felt like, you know, she didn't really, you know, wanna give me, you know, any pleasure in that way. So like, it was kind of hard. It was like one-sided.

Have you ever heard this? Did you know this?

I did.

Key, was another girlfriend just an excuse to cheat?

I'm not a cheater. I don't like to cheat, you know? So I like to be honest.

I like how Kayla, when I asked that question, started smiling. Right.

I like to be honest. So, you know, I was like, you know, maybe we should open the relationship 'cause maybe we could find a girl that is like not like you. You, you know. So, you know, I have the—

what did you ask her how she felt about an open relationship before you started it?

Um, I feel like I did ask her and she wasn't really okay with it unless it was like a girl that she—

did they, did they ask?

Um, no, she brought it up like on a public forum that she wanted two girlfriends. That's how I found out. There's a lot of women in in the world, you know, and she, you know, she likes women too. So I was like, why not, you know, try?

Kayla, so you're the third in this?

Yeah.

Well, not anymore. You're kind of— I saw how y'all walked out. You're kind of the first in this now. So what was it like for you when they asked you to be in this relationship?

Um, well, they both approached me and it seemed like it was supposed to be a relationship. Like, I got claimed right away. And I didn't know that Jenna thought it was just gonna be a fling that was temporary.

So Key had told you that this was a relationship, but you were under the impression that we were just having a fling.

Yeah, Key told me that it was a relationship. They both told me that it was a relationship. They found me together.

Okay.

Yeah. Yeah, we were doing things with her like we would in a relationship and Jenna was like trying to, you know, like put up walls like, "Let's not fall in love." But like, I'm a lover, so like I'm like, how do we How can you really do everything in a relationship with this girl and then not fall in love with her? I feel like you pressured me to love her so fast because you guys were in love.

So Kayla, how do you feel about your relationship now?

Well, I definitely have been hurt about it 'cause I did go in loving, wanting to love both of them, and then everything got strewn out through the summer, and then Yeah. Like then it was just me and Key, but then Key was like seeing Jen behind my back and lying and both of them lying, not talking to me about it. But now I'm still open to loving her because that's how I came into it.

I wanna hear what my audience has to say about this. Anybody have a comment on this? Okay. Okay, what are your thoughts on the subject?

Hi, so I'm polyamorous myself, actually. I think there's a lot of love between all of you, but there's also a lot of confusion.

And I think that you all started out opening up your relationship and maybe went a little bit too fast. You know, I think that you could have been communicated with better, right? Jenna?

Yeah. Yeah. And you as well, coming into this relationship, thought that, you know, it would be open, that that both of you would be ready.

So it sounds like if you're saying Jenna should have been communicated with more, she should have known that they were ready, it sounds like you're saying Key's at fault here.

I don't wanna place blame on everyone because polyamorous relationships are very complicated, but I think communication between the three of you, like knowing that in a polyamorous throuple, there's a relationship between person A and person B, person B and person C, person C and person A, and then there's a relationship between the three of you. Yes. And all of those need to be treated with respect and with communication and trust. Super good perspective. Thank you so much.

I'm gonna be honest with you, polyamorous relationships are new for me. Key, I'll ask you, do you think that each of those have been handled properly?

Yes, I felt like that was the main thing I was trying to do.

But it sounds like from Jenna's point of view, the relationship you didn't focus on was you two.

Yes, that right there.

That's what it is.

Nail on the head. I don't agree. I just felt like me and you took a pause while we focused on Kayla.

Okay, what's your point of view?

I got a question for Key. So you said earlier that maybe we need to bring someone else in that's not Jenna, correct? So if you are a person that loves to love, how do you think that's making Jenna feel? Number one. That was there first? I mean, I felt like me being honest was better than stepping out.

But do you feel like that's a part, a little bit of betrayal? Taking Kayla out for a second, if my partner communicates they want something, then great, yes. But then it's like, without proper time to really figure it out, to communicate, to understand, I would feel like, dang, like, wow. I don't know, that's just me.

No, I agree. And I feel like I could definitely feel the love from Jenna to Key because clearly you're doing something in order to make Key happy, you done entered a whole can of worms that you really wasn't beat for. Am I correct or not? Correct. I was not prepared, yeah. Yeah, you was unprepared, rightfully so. So.

Thank you. All right, let's talk about this. So Jenna, I wanna know, do you feel like you can stay in this relationship?

I love them both more than I've ever loved anyone else. In my life. If we could come to an agreement all together, that's different, but I don't like being told one thing and then just imagining that she's being told something else.

Yeah.

I don't feel like I tell them anything different. I want them to both feel like they're wanted in life. Like the baby thing, she wants a child, so like I don't feel like she should settle and not want to not be able to have a kid because— but that conversation should have been all three of us. I do, I do believe that should have been, you know, but she was just so stuck up to like, no, she— I don't want her to have that with you. I don't want her to, you know, have all that. You know, she never gave me the security that I was your number one. You were telling me that, but you were showing— your actions were showing different. But you were pulling yourself away from me. I was watching you guys fall in love. Exactly. And it was making me want to pull myself away. Exactly. And you weren't putting yourself in a situation. Why do I have to fight for your love? You didn't have to fight for it. You don't— you're the one that took yourself from the situation. I don't like the way you react to me and yell at me and call me names. That's not a normal basic— well, you, you don't listen to me. You are like— but I've seen you do the same thing to her. Yeah, she does. So does she not listen to you? She does, right? Yeah. She does exactly that.

I'm not gonna chase after them because they're the one who set this in motion and then are deciding to leave. So what I'm gonna do to you ladies is just say this. That's very sweet. That's very sweet.

Very sweet.

I actually, it really is sweet because at the end of the day, I do believe that there was love. I think you were uncomfortable and it just wasn't patient enough. You didn't get the proper communication you needed. Communication just was off there. You gotta start to figure out how to move on, which you already are. They're engaged, they're in love. And so you have to start making your decisions based on the facts, not based on what could be. Because I think a lot of times in relationship we make these decisions on like, well, I think they could be, I think this could be, It could be, but the fact of the matter is they don't live with you anymore. They are engaged and they are happy. And part of them still wants to control something that they can't control anymore. And you just said you saw it as well. And also I would say to you, you're young, you're beautiful, and I'm not telling you to leave your fiancé by any means, but I am also gonna say watch behavior. Pattern behavior doesn't switch until someone decides that they want to actually take the steps to do the work to grow and to heal themselves. And a response like walking off isn't someone who's taking the steps to grow.

No accountability.

No accountability there, yeah. So you as a young person, younger than two of them, watch yourself. Just watch it. Make sure you don't find yourself in a situation where now, because now you're talking about marriage, now you're talking about kids, You're talking about a lot of stuff and this is your first relationship, okay? Again, I'm not telling you to leave, but I'm telling you to watch it and understand that if things get to a place where you see it mimicking what you saw here, and I just heard you say, "Yeah, that's what they do with me too. That's what they do with me." So you're already picking it up.

Start to say to yourself, "Maybe I need to go." I did tell Jenna when we first started talking again, I do feel like I feel bad that I wasn't there for her during things. 'Cause she did tell me a lot of stuff that she was going through with he. And then I went through it and I didn't have, I wished I had her next to me. So I do understand why she wanted me there.

Got it. So you're both experiencing the same things. Yeah. Well, I'm glad that there is at least a support system that you all have for each other. And again, I'm not going to bash Key's character. That's never my intention here. I just hope that Key can grow and be a better partner for you, can be a better person to help you to have the relationship end in a positive way so that the kids can feel healthy. And I hope that they start to do the work on themselves. So I wish you all the best of luck.

Thank you.

What'd you do?

I done cheated a lot, done lied a lot. I lie to cover it up 'cause I honestly don't wanna hurt her. And cheating, it was a choice for me. I did it. Not saying I can't stop, I can't. That's why I'm here.

How did Audriana find out about the cheating?

Well, when we lived together, we started living together like 2 months in our relationship. She always go through my phone a lot.

Okay. Somebody said lesbians. Y'all move in quick, I ain't gonna lie. My sisters, I love y'all. Okay, so y'all moved in 2 months after being together?

Yeah, 2 months after being together. You know, she always go, she always say it's suspicious.

So how many times have you cheated? What's the exact number?

I can't give you an exact number, but—

It's that high?

But I can count it on 2 hands.

It's that high? In all sincerity, what do you suspect?

Really, I just, I don't want this no more. Like the life is, It's childish, it's over with. Like, I see I wanna be with her. This is the one, she brings me peace. You know, she brought me outta a real dark place when I was in that dark place.

Okay, so she supported you at your hardest moment. So what happens when Audriana finds out that you're cheating and she gets angry? What happens?

She tends to get physical a lot.

So when you say gotten physical, do you mean you two are fighting like with fists?

Yes, sir.

Okay, and how often does that happen?

It happens every time like we argue. Or like she find out I cheat, she wants to get physical.

Every time y'all argue, every time you cheat. You just said you cheated more than two hands. So y'all have gotten in more than 10 fist fights?

Yes, sir.

Okay. And how long have y'all been together? 'Cause I know you moved in after two months. How long y'all been together?

It'll be two years in April.

You told my producers that you describe your relationship as clingy.

Yes, sir.

Why?

'Cause it's always just been us two. Yeah. Two P's and a P.

So I'm gonna ask you, why do you wanna say this relationship?

'Cause I love her. I really do. Like, she, she's my, she really my peace, like my happiness. Like I said, she brought me out of that dark place.

I think it's time to meet Adriana, don't y'all? Yeah. Everyone, please welcome Adriana to the show so we get her side of the story. Hi, Adriana. You look beautiful.

Thank you.

You look really beautiful.

Thank you.

I want to know, how do you feel about everything you just heard?

If she She love me and I'm her piece. Why continue to do what you do?

My producers told me that when y'all two got together, you had a girlfriend.

Yes, sir, I did. Oh yeah, so about the girlfriend, I seen it on Facebook. First she didn't tell me something, I seen it.

So she didn't tell you that she had a girlfriend?

She was like, "Ain't nothing like that, I don't want her for real." So the trust was broken from day one? Mm-hmm.

From day one. Do you agree? Yeah, I agree. That's the smoothness, y'all see it.

Yeah, yeah, okay.

Smoothness and a little bit toxicity, we gonna be real, okay, but. All right, so how did you find out she was cheating on you?

Well, I get her phone, of course.

I know I go through phones, but you do know that's toxic.

Yeah, I'm gonna do it. Yeah, I know it's toxic.

Okay, good, good, good. 'Cause I do it for proof, all parties know what's happening. When you do it and the other party doesn't know, that's when it becomes toxic behavior. But you did it for a reason.

So when I go through it, I don't say nothing right then. I kind of like, kind of ask. It, you know, these things.

Do you contact the other woman?

No, I didn't. At first I didn't.

At first you didn't?

Yeah, at first I didn't 'cause—

Nyana, what you gotta say about that?

I gotta say I lie to cover it up 'cause the hurt, I don't wanna hurt her.

You really think you lying to cover it up 'cause you don't wanna hurt her or is it that you're afraid of you being seen in a certain light? Yeah. Yeah, 'cause it's not really about her while you lying, it's about yourself. You don't wanna be seen a certain way so you wanna be saying, Well, let me try to keep this persona up. And then because once she catches you, she gotta see the real you, right?

Yes, sir.

Okay, I just wanna make sure. When was the most recent time that you learned she was unfaithful?

Last May, her birthday was last May. At the beginning of December we were separated, but we were still together.

So last month she cheated?

Mm-hmm.

Last month?

Yeah, so we were separated, so.

So from your perspective, what number does that make? Cuz she said more than— she said more than two hands. She couldn't give me an exact number. Was that number 20?

I don't think it was that much, Karamo.

I don't think it was that much. 15? I'm just trying to go. I'm just trying to go. What number?

How about 6 or 7? Okay. The most. Yeah, cuz it got bad, um, last kind of last year.

Okay, well, she said over 10 already.

I went— well, I don't know what you consider cheating. Well, it ain't really like— I don't I said everything she do cheating, but for me, for me, like 5, 6, or 7.

Mm-hmm. You heard what everybody just did. They said what? You don't consider everything she done cheating?

No, like—

When she's telling you that it was cheating?

I ain't never catch the other time. That's what I say. I put like that.

So if you don't see it, then you don't count those other times?

Yeah, if I don't, you know, see, of course.

Okay, so we gotta get something big. She said you put your hands on her, you get physical. Tell me about that. Why?

Not every time, but when she lies to me, I said, of course she a liar. And I hit her, I slap her a couple times.

Where are those anger issues coming from?

Well, my mama, she went through the same thing. I grew up around it.

So your mama does the same thing? So it's learned behavior?

Yeah.

Got it. How old are y'all, if you don't mind me asking? Nyonna, how old are you?

21.

You're 21. Okay, how old are you?

I'm 19.

You're 19. Okay, okay. So I wanna ask you, do you think you and Nyonna should to stay in this relationship?

Honestly, I already know what you're gonna say.

You already know what I'm gonna say? What am I gonna say?

You gonna be like, no, no, we need to break up. But I feel like it could be worked out.

I'm gonna ask you this 'cause you're 19, so you're young. What is your definition of love?

I don't know how to explain it, but—

You don't know what the definition of love is. Just say that. You don't know. You 19, I understand that. Do you know the definition of love?

Real love.

That's the honest and most realist thing. Right, you like, uh-uh. And the reason I asked that question to both of you is because it's easy when you're young and you fall in love to be in these relationships and you move fast. And listen, as part of the member of the LGBT community, we move sometimes even quicker. It's like, you know, we didn't have the love or support at home, So it's like you meet somebody and it's like, oh, we in love in 2 days, we moving in. It's like everything's going down and it's like you didn't have the time to process of like, what does love mean to me? Let me tell you something. Y'all are staying together because y'all are afraid of heartbreak. And I get it. Young love, 19, 20, 21. That's the worst. When heartbreak happens then it's like, oh my gosh, world is devastated. But you cannot be afraid of heartbreak and stay in this codependent, unhealthy relationship. You already, you just said you knew I was gonna say it. You already know it. It started off with trust issues from day one. I know you said she was with you in your darkest moments and I believe that. But that even in your darkest moments, you couldn't find the respect to treat her how she needed to be treated. So I'm gonna be real with you. I love you, Nyonna. I just met you, but you gotta stop using that as an excuse, that she was there for me in my darkest moments. Because there's gonna be other people who are gonna be there for you in darkest moments. They're gonna be there for you when it's hard. I don't think you're gonna have a problem finding that. Obviously you can find women with no problem. And then for you, come on now. You're a young woman who is modeling behavior. You just told me my mama used to fight, so I'm fighting. But now the work you have to do is you have to challenge that narrative of what you witness in the house and ask yourself, why am I modeling this behavior?

I know I deserve better, I do.

Then why are you staying? Why are you getting physical? If you knew better, then why have you been in this for 2 years? So there is an unconscious part of you that thinks this is what life has to be because you didn't have a healthy relationship modeled for you and you need to do the work to fight against that. Y'all have been codependent for 2 years. If you are courageous enough, I would like you all to maybe break up today. You know, are you courageous enough?

It won't happen today.

Exactly. Go home and do the work. I have clearly pinpointed for both of y'all where the work starts. So you ain't got no excuse. Karamo done gave y'all the starting point. You know exactly where it starts. Self-respect for you, it starts with you. And for you, it starts with understanding why you're mimicking your mother's behavior and why you don't feel I feel like you deserve more. Good luck, y'all, all right? Yes, sir. All right, everyone.

She told me from the very beginning that I wasn't her type. Oh. That I wasn't her type, I needed to gain weight. So it got to the point where if I'm not your type and I'm not who you messing with, then what are we even doing right now?

Okay.

I'm supposed to trust and believe that you love me and I'm for the long haul and this is what you want, then you tell me I'm not your type.

Yeah.

So what is it?

And how long have y'all been together?

4 years, but let her tell it, we've only been official for 2.

Uh-huh. But that's still a long time whether it's 2 or 4. Y'all have been engaged in a long-term relationship. What do you think we'll find in her phone?

I think that you're gonna find her talking to her ex, if not that chick from around the corner.

Got it. Well, you asked my unlock phone investigator to unlock Lex's phone 'cause you want to know if Lex has been texting You want to know if Lex has been secretly meeting with other women. And you want to know if Lex has been communicating with her ex on social media. What happens to this relationship if we discover that your suspicions are true?

She gotta get outta my house.

Got it, got it, okay.

We have kids in, oh, I have my children who have literally gotten to the point where they love her on the same, almost the same level. She has earned that right with them. So there's a lot at stake. You can't just play with my emotions 'cause you're playing with theirs too.

Got it. Well, I think it's time to hear what Lex has to say about all this and I wanna hear her side of the story. So everyone, welcome back to the show. Hey Lex, how you doing?

Hi Karamo.

Thank you for being here.

Thank you for having me.

Yes, of course. So what do you think about what you just heard?

I don't agree. I agree with majority of it.

Okay, what parts you don't agree with?

I've never shamed you on your weight. I help you with your weight every day. You don't eat, I make sure you eat. I cook 3 meals a day for you. And if we're in an argument, that's her biggest thing. She will refuse to eat. When we first met, I came from a place where I was just leaving a 7-year relationship. I was single as a dollar bill. I didn't wanna be in a relationship. I was still trying to find myself and be me, love me. I started babysitting her kids. I got attached to them. Them. Uh, I love those kids. Those is my babies. And moving forward, we just continue to build.

Why do you answer your ex's calls late at night?

I've answered her calls twice since I've been with Maritza. One time was in regards to a dog.

Okay.

Um, and that was a dog that we shared together. Um, that dog was getting sick and getting ready to pass. When was the second time? Um, when I was at your mother's house in Brunswick. Oh yeah, caused a fight. My mother did not speak to me for over a year. And that was me being petty. I didn't know my ex was going to call me. It was me, it was me She being petty.

Okay. Where did you go after the argument?

To the neighbor's house in the back.

To the neighbor's house. Okay. And what happened there?

I was over there hanging out and then I ended up going to the store for her with the neighbor and the said girl that she's talking about.

My producer told me that y'all got into an argument at the airport coming here.

Sure did.

At the hotel yesterday, right?

We did 'cause she tried to leave me in the airport. That's not what she said. She took off off the plane in front of me and took off. Now I'm standing in the airport by myself. I lost my damn shit. I started following her through, where the fuck You think you're going? You left me on my shit. And that's not what she said. She said, let's take a picture with me. And I told her, we're not about to sit here and take a picture. We're not, we don't vacation. She said, I wanna know. We here to fuck with Karamo, cuz we got problems. This is not vacation, baby. And I'm not about to play with you. Her exact words was, I said, I wanted a picture for the kids. They don't know what's going on. They know everything that's going on. Our 13-year-old son, he wants to be here. She knows what's going on. And that's the thing about her, she keeps sugarcoating it when it's just us. No, it's not just us anymore. I don't fuck with you like that. You're right. That wasn't your responsibility. I don't give a fuck. So then why did you bring me out here? Because I'm tired of being accused and I wanna clear my name.

So I have a question for both of you. Have you attempted to leave this relationship?

I have.

You have? What happened?

Every time I try to leave, either something gets broken or the kids, I get threatened with the kids.

Oh.

It's not that I threaten her with the kids. She has this unrealistic idea that if we split up, we're still gonna live in the same house and co-parent. Like I'm not gonna see her and like she said, I'm not gonna pretend and play house with you. Like I'm the type of person, if the relationship is done, it's done. I'm dead. I wash my hands with it and there's no staying friends after that.

But if you said that the kids are like getting, your kids are getting attached, why wouldn't you want some type of co-parenting?

'Cause she's immature. She don't know how to like be real. If we're not gonna work, if we're not gonna work, she don't know how to do that. She don't know how to just let me be. She don't know how to just let it go. If we're not gonna be a thing, she— So you don't antagonize me when we're at odds? She can't understand that this isn't healthy. I can't keep forcing myself to make you believe that I love you. I can't do that to you. So if I'm not the type of woman— She's doing it, that's what you're doing. Yo, I love her.

What you doing?

Period. Period. What are you holding on to? I love her. For what? If I don't love you for who you say that you are, what do you love me for? What am I doing? What about me? This is the thing. I rode for her in the beginning too when it was the back and forth and my character was attacked. Time and time again. And now I'm at the point where my walls are up. And now that she decided now she's ready, I'm supposed to just crumble them down. But those walls got built up for a reason. Karamo, she promised me when I first met her, she said transparency. She promised me, I will wait for you. I see you. That's what she wanted. I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it. Cry? This is real life, bro. This is my feelings. This is real life. Who playing what victim? If anybody's playing the victim, it's you because I said I was done with you. How, as a grown woman, 35 years old, you can't allow somebody to tell you I'm done with you? 'Cause you don't want me, but you wanna stay in my house. It's not gonna happen. We live together. My name is on that lease too, baby. I've been paying on that too.

So speaking of the house you're in right now, my producers told me that y'all shared pictures because there's been damage in your house.

Yeah.

So it's a window that's broken?

Yeah, I broke that window.

You broke it?

I broke that window.

What happened?

I tried to lock her out the house. I came back from the ops where I was at. She started getting crazy and I seen the damage in my truck and I instantly got pissed. That's my baby, like that's all I got. My truck was smashed. So I tried to get in the house and she locked the door.

So these are, oh, so she broke the window?

Every single, yeah. So I did, listen, this is what happened. First of all, let me clarify, I bought her that truck. So I felt like if I had an issue with the truck, I could do that. That was when the whole, she went over to the neighbor's house or whatever. I packed nothin', I caught her with the ops and that's when I ran up on her. I fought you and you still ain't gonna come to the house? Well, I sure did take that Louisville Slugger to the truck.

So Lex, why do you stay?

The kids.

The kids.

I love the kids. You love the kids. I've built the relationship with her. I love her too, but I don't love this. This is the problem. I can't trust and believe that though. I can't trust and believe that. When did we even become official? Like you stringing me along for so long made it to the point where once you were ready, I couldn't even believe that.

She said that you said that you would wait for her. Is that true?

I would, but at what extent? Like while I waited?

While I was waiting? Have you clarified this?

No, she did not. No, she did not. My last relationship was all I knew, and I was in that relationship. I didn't end that relationship, I got broken up with. So I wasn't ready to be done. So then it was unfair for her to even start anything with me, period. And if you were confused, then you didn't know. I told her I wasn't ready.

She did.

And she continued to have— You ain't ready, but then you show up and you— No, she seen me with other girls, Karamo. She seen me with other girls, and she couldn't handle that. Every night we're together.

Listen, I think it's time to unlock the phone.

Period.

Next, we unlocked your phone. Red, you wanna know if Lex has been texting other women.

Yes.

Lex says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her texts and found that Lex is telling the truth.

Period. Period. Come on.

Red wants to know if Lex has been secretly meeting with other women. Lex says she is not.

I'm at home with the kids every day. Every day.

My unlock the phone investigator searched her GPS. And found that Lex is telling the truth.

Period. I'm done, bro. You good? Come on, DMs.

You wanna know Lex has been communicating with her ex on social media.

What this one is?

Lex says she is not.

What this one is?

Maya locked the phone up. Ask her to search her DMs and found she's telling the truth.

Come on, bro. Come on, bro. What they say? I told her, I said I was gonna say this on the show, Karamo. Studs don't cheat, bro. This one, don't cheat. If I'm gonna be with you, I'm gonna be with you. I'm not gonna raise 3 kids that I didn't push out my shit. That I ain't got no reason to take care of. And cheat on you? What the fuck am I doing? That's stupid. Well then you gotta stop. You gotta stop. You need to get the help that you need. You just see, look again, turn around. 0, 0, 0. Since I've been with you. All right, then I was wrong. I'm not a cheater. You've been wrong. You wrong. And I'm sorry that you had to come out here for this, but you told me Karamo was the only one that could fix your mess. You told me that. We here, baby. 0, 0, 0. Again. Again. Period. I was wrong. Period.

Now I'm gonna tell you this.

I know you was.

If you came here, I appreciate you giving the apology. I think that's great. If you came here for my advice 'cause you trust me, I appreciate that. And the one thing I would say to you is this relationship is this is done and unhealthy. I gotta tell y'all. And the reason it's done unhealthy is because neither of you have healed. She was upfront, she never healed, and you know you didn't heal. And y'all got into something and tried to create a codependency bond, but she doesn't want that and she's trying to break it. So what I'm telling you is that this is unhealthy. So yes, y'all both on the lease, be in the house together and let her be the co-parent that your kids deserve. Y'all don't have to be in there sleeping around playing house. She's being upfront with you. Both of you need to heal, but allow her to be the co-parent because your children deserve that.

Please.

Can you allow her to be that co-parent?

Yes.

You can? Tell her, tell her.

You're not gonna take them from me. My issue with you was never with the kids. My kids love you and I know that you take care of them.

So can you allow her to be that co-parent? You wanna be a parent?

Yes.

Okay, good. I think y'all both know this gotta done, it's done. But what I think y'all can have healthy communication on now that you know she hasn't been cheating is remembering those kids, all right? I really do wish y'all the best of luck 'cause I hate seeing people who actually can be on that journey of healing not being on that journey. But y'all took a good first step today and that's all that matters, all right? I wish y'all the best of luck, I sincerely do.

She stopped, she said something slick, and I said, "Get away from my tent, big back." And she walked away. She walked away. And then on Saturday, we were in a whole nother state. We were in New Jersey and we were with a couple of friends and we went out to a bar. And Tatiana started, like she tried to start an argument with me and I was trying to figure out what was wrong, but I literally laughed it off. And about, I'm gonna say 30 minutes later, guess who walks in this club?

There wasn't a big—

Big Back. It was Big Back in the club. Big Back.

Okay, I gotta tell y'all, I don't know how it's happened, but my audience has literally picked up my personality. Whereas one minute y'all are all compassionate, y'all are in it, and then y'all get messy.

Everything.

Don't bring a Big Mac with her.

Listen.

They gonna say Big Mac for you. Okay, so Big Mac came in.

Yeah, Big Mac came into the club in New Jersey.

Yeah. When y'all in a different state. So like how do you know we were here?

The very next day. That is not a coincidence.

Okay.

It's just not.

Do you ever go through her phone?

She don't let me go through that phone.

She doesn't let you go through it?

I sneak and go through it from time to time, but she always has mine.

Got it. Well, it's time to meet Tatiana and hear her side of this story. So everyone please welcome Tatiana to the show. Hey Tatiana, how you doing? Nice to meet you. So I need to know from your perspective, From your perspective, why did you call off the engagement?

'Cause it was annoying. She was being annoying. Like, it was like once she got the ring, it was more stressful.

It was stressful for you?

Yeah.

Okay then.

What, me being more submissive to you was stressful? No, it was like, it was just more aggravating. Like, it was like a lot going on at the time. What is more aggravating? Like, I made you do more? What you—

I made you grow up?

It was being messy. It was a lot of messy stuff going on.

So did your relationship change once you got engaged?

Not changed, but a little different, you know?

In what way?

Like the way she be talking. Like act like, she more act like, she was more acting like she was my mom. Well, if you don't act like I'm your mom, I won't treat you like I am.

Got it. So why did you cheat then?

I felt like I would— It's my fault. She cheated 'cause it's my fault. 'Cause I said she cheated, so she cheated.

Is that what you said? I'm gonna let you finish your statement. Why did you cheat?

'Cause it was like she kept saying constantly that I was cheating. So I was like, I might well go cheat. Like you saying I'm cheating, I might well go. But if you cheated, then you cheated.

So why not make a healthier choice and say, Well, if you're accusing me of cheating and I'm not cheating, I'm just gonna end this relationship. Why then stay and cheat?

I don't know. Well, you could have left and cheated and then came back.

She even gave you another path.

She didn't like that path. That was too much.

Are you cheating now?

No.

You're not cheating now. Okay then. So what bothers you the most about this relationship? About this relationship?

How she's just like, she's mad insecure, but I meet her that way though. Oh, I'm glad you acknowledged that in front of everybody.

Yeah, I mean, it's glad you acknowledged that you had a part in playing her insecurities. Okay then. Does it upset you that she doesn't trust you?

Yeah, a little bit.

Okay.

If you don't lie about everything, then I would trust you. You literally will lie about the sky.

What just made you emotional?

She cry about everything. Every time I say anything to her, she's attacked. I'm attacking her. She would rather cry and be a baby. So I have to treat her like my baby.

Is that what you feel?

Mommy. No.

Do you feel stuck in this relationship?

Not, no, not stuck. 'Cause if she wanna leave, she can leave. She has every opportunity. I will help her pack, go. I will help her find a house. I will help her move in it. Matter of fact, she has her own home and I have my own. She just never goes home. She only goes home when she wants to cheat.

Okay.

So you're only going home to cheat? That don't mean cheating. Where you at then? Where you at if you're not at home? If I'm not in the house, I'm somewhere. You just said you went home. At somebody else's house. You was going home to go home. So if you going home to go home, be home.

Do you still like, do you still love her?

Yeah, of course. It's my everything.

This is your everything?

I don't feel that.

Okay. You don't feel that?

No.

Okay, got it. Is this the first long-term relationship you ever been in? Yeah. Okay, and y'all been together 6 years?

Yeah.

Okay, so what do you do to make up to her when you cheat?

Like I take her, try to take her places or cook or— Or try to have sex. She thinks sex solves everything.

Well listen, I think it's time to unlock the truth.

Hold that card.

So we unlocked Tatiana's phone. So let's get to these results. Maya wants to know if Tatiana was texting an ex-fling. Tatiana says she is not. Maya unlocked the phone, investigator searched her texts, and she is not telling the truth. He found 3 suspicious text messages. Maya, you also want to know if Tatiana was messaging people on social media. Tatiana says she's not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her apps and there were no social media apps on her phone. Now the reason I bring that up, because my unlock the phone investigator made sure that he said this note for me that he needed me to repeat to you all. He feels as if my unlock the phone investigator found this to be very suspicious suspicious for a 24-year-old woman to not have apps on her phone and believes he did not unlock her main phone after going through it.

Wow. So you didn't bring your real phone? I did, that was the phone. So you switched the phones? No, that was the phone.

Well, when it comes to phones, both, Tatiana, you both told my Unlock the Phone investigator that you have had 3 new phones in the last month.

Yeah.

Which also adds to his suspicion that he didn't get the right phone because as he was going through it, it seemed like it was almost a brand new phone.

I just know I'm not crazy.

So what phone was this that we unlocked? Because we did find the 3 messages that were suspicious in nature, but we, our Unlock the Phone investigator, he keeps going back and he doesn't feel like this could be the phone. We go through a lot of phones here and so we can tell when a phone's been used, when it has things on it.

But this is the, The one that I use, it's the one that I got on the phone.

So why would you need 3 new phones though?

So my first one broke.

Okay.

And then the second one just got smashed.

All of them broke.

She broke all of 'em on purpose. She broke them.

Okay, okay. What was your point of view? You said what?

I didn't break 'em on purpose. She broke them.

I gotta tell you this right here. So you know that she was talking to somebody 'cause we got 3 suspicious messages that you should talk to. My investigator has said that he doesn't feel as if this was the right phone. But what I'll tell you this from me and point this out, y'all kept saying about this mom thing. And the first thing that shocked me were when you said that I make you grow up. You know you're in a relationship with someone who is young. I believe you love her dearly, but I don't think you're ready to be in this type of committed relationship, which is fine. And I think what is the problem is that you're playing house and you're playing house with an older woman who is really ready to be in a house with someone and you're not. And I think this relationship about the kid and everything has got y'all together, but y'all are unhealthy together. And I don't think she's gonna be able to give you what you need. Also, I would say this, from your point of view, you do act like a mom and you shut her down at every chance that she has lost her voice. So I understand why she talks to other people. She has not been able to communicate.

That is not completely true though.

I can only go by what I, listen, I'm only going by what I say. Nothing that I say can dictate or can paint a full picture of who y'all are outside of this. I think y'all are both lovely people, but from what I've witnessed here, every time she's tried to say something, you've cut her off immediately.

I didn't ask her to marry me. She asked me to marry her.

I get that.

I told her to go, she won't go.

And that goes to my first place. She's trying to play house with a grown woman.

Right, right.

She's not ready to play house.

But she won't allow me to be a grown woman on my own.

Hold on, but this is the thing you just said about her. You said that I will help her pack, I will help her move. So why don't you help yourself pack and help yourself move?

It has nothing to do with her.

It has nothing to do with her. Any woman that can sit in front of me and tell me that they are holding down 2 jobs with no issues, going to work 16 hours on a Friday, a Saturday, a Sunday, you are doing all of this while maintaining your bills and still trying to maintain a relationship. You don't need permission from her to grow. You need permission to tell yourself to get outta this. And I'm not saying you're not a lovely person. I think that you can grow into the most amazing person. Right now, you are not ready to be in this type of relationship and you know it. You know it. You know you love each other, but you know it. And if y'all can be honest with yourselves, y'all will save yourself a lot of heartache because we all see it. I wish y'all the best of luck, God, honestly, I really do. Because I think you're both beautiful and intelligent human beings. And I just know that this is not gonna get any healthier right now. I know this. It's not gonna get us any help.

I mean, it was over anyway.

That's what I'm saying to you.

So clearly you are cheating. Clearly you are. That's why the walk away. That's why you walking away.

'Cause she going, yeah.

Either way.

And she been cheating. She been cheating. When it comes to your sexual orientation, how do you identify? Is it as a lesbian? Is it a bisexual? Is it heterosexual?

Bisexual.

So there's some insecurities there.

Maybe. And I think a lot, some of it stems from like how she grew up, you know, like, that she battles with like family-wise and stuff like that, you know?

Has she accused you of sleeping with her family member?

Well, that has came up. That has came up, but—

What family member does she think you slept with?

It was an uncle.

So she thinks you slept with her uncle?

Yeah.

So I have to ask you point blank, are you cheating?

No.

Have you slept with any men?

No.

Got it.

Or a woman.

My producer said that when you're at parties, she embarrasses you. How?

Well, it's not that she, no, we don't really, We don't really go out. We don't go out. It's more of the, it's more of the when we are out, I feel like I'm constantly being watched and I feel like other people can see that. So I feel embarrassed.

Got it. So what would you want to happen today?

I wanna be able to be comfortable. I wanna be able to be in a social setting social setting and I'd have to walk with my head down.

Here you go, love.

That's what I want.

Yeah, okay. Well, you told my Unlock the Phone investigators you wanted to prove that you're not talking to men on social media, you're not texting men, and Kim would like to know if Bernadette is still communicating with someone by the name of.

Okay? He's like a brother to me. I grew up with this guy. Like, I've known him all my life. There's never nothing been going on with me and him. Okay. Ever. He's like another brother.

Got it. Okay. Well listen, it's time to meet Kimberly and hear her side of this story. So everyone please welcome Kimberly to the show. How you doing Kimberly? Nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you.

How do you feel about what she just said?

I have mixed feelings about it. I can sympathize with her in a lot of situations. I don't want her to be having to have her head down or be in another room when we have company over or anything like that. Like, no one should have to live their life like that. It's not normal, it's not fair, you know what I mean? I wanna get to a point as well as she does where we can be around other people and interact with people and it be okay.

Are you on guard during her social situations?

—constantly.

—Constantly?

So you're admitting you are that way? Yeah, I am that way, but I have good reason to be.

What is the reason?

You know, in past situations where men have come onto her or have hit on her, she'll laugh it off or she'll, you know, blow it off and make it seem like it's not a big deal. And to me, I felt so disrespected. I don't care. And if I'm telling you I feel disrespected and you keep doing it and you keep doing it, then what does that tell me? That you don't care. Men have never come on to me by themselves. If they've done, it's happened twice and they've come to her. They've said inappropriate things to her. Got it. So I feel like if they came to her and said 'em, that she needs to shut it down. Got it.

Okay, but at the same time. Has she ever cheated on you?

I don't know for sure or not, but I feel like she has. She's disappeared for a night. She's called for a ride and has got picked up by a guy. And you know, the reason why I'm so insecure is because she's not a very affectionate person at all, period. Whether we're in public or private, you know what I mean? So if I feel like I'm not wanted by you, how is that supposed to add to my confidence? How am I supposed to feel secure in a relationship where I feel like you don't want me? You know, so if I'm scrutinizing every situation and I see you give somebody some kind of attention that I feel like I should be getting, you know, how does that add to my confidence, you know?

And what happens on TikTok?

We share social medias and whatnot, but I've noticed— You share social medias? Like I have access to hers and vice versa. Okay. But I've noticed when I get on there, like if I wanna watch videos, the notifications automatically pop up and there's two particular men that have like constantly been viewing her profile like every single day. And she doesn't have much on her profile, one picture and a few videos she's reposted that she thought was funny from other people's pages, whatever. But there's nothing significant on her page. Why are they looking at your page every single day and who are they and for what?

Well, Bernadette brought her 3 phones here for me to unlock to prove to you that she is not doing anything. Let me explain the 3 phones though, okay?

'Cause I was confused.

I said 3 phones.

Well, since we've been together, when we first got together, I had, I had came in with a phone, right? And then I have a problem. I always break my phones and I shatter my screens. So— So when you get upset, you shatter your screens? No, no, no, not upset. I just have a problem. Like I'll drop, I'm clumsy. Oh, got it. Okay. So I drop 'em and so two of the phones were not working anymore. They were just shattered. But it's two phones that I have had since I've been with her.

So you wanna bring all the phones?

So I just, let's go through all of 'em.

Okay. Listen, transparency, I like it. All right, well listen, time to go through each of these phones. So let's unlock the first phone. All right, Kim wants to know if Bernadette was communicating with men on social media. She says she's not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched her DMs and she is telling the truth. Kim wants to know if Bernadette was communicating with men on text. She says she's not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched her texts and She is telling the truth. Kim wants to know if Bernadette was communicating with specific men. She says she's not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her phone and she is telling the truth. So we also went through the second phone. You want to know if she was communicating with other men. We looked at the phone, but we could not because it was tampered with, which means it was broken. And then the third phone, again, had been tampered with because it was broken, so it cannot be unlocked. Well, something that was interesting about this though, oh, that I'm reading here, is that my producers are telling me that to get into these phones, we need to go, we need to get the password from you. From the broken phones? Yes, or from the new phone. For her phone that she has right now.

I gave him all the passwords.

What I'm saying is that you have the passwords to get into the phone. Right. Got it, okay. Okay, so this makes more sense. We need to do this. This is a waste of time, honestly. Because I understand why you did it. I understand why you're doing this. You're doing this because you're like, I wanna just prove to you in transparency. But this is not about unlocking phones. This is not about men. This is about you building your insecurities I mean, you tackling the insecurities you have. And it's unfortunate because I feel like I could have had more time to dive deeper into the fact of there's probably something in your past where the women you've dated have probably cheated on you.

Am I right? Oh, that's correct. Okay. And also her infidelity in all her past relationships as well, 'cause she has been.

Yeah, but her past has nothing to do with your own feelings. 'Cause in this relationship, she's proven now through unlocking her phone that she has not done anything.

My concern wasn't the phones really, really at all.

My concern is this relationship. I understand, like I just said, I wish that I could have had more time to dive deeper into the insecurities you're experiencing. Right. Because that's the real issue of this relationship. It is, it is. Is it's not about the affection she's giving you or not. It's about the fact that you're unable in this place in your life right now to trust the woman you're with, to trust your partner.

I'm not completely agreeable with that because I feel like if she instilled that in me and I knew that she wanted me, I would feel more secure. Insecure.

Yeah, so where I say to that is no one can make me feel secure. I can, in the sense of I have to either trust my gut to say she's doing something and leave, or I have to allow them to then show me that they're doing something wrong. And right now she's showing you she's not doing anything wrong to the point where it's affecting her self-esteem and she's walking around with her head down.

Okay, that's her decision though. And like I said, the phones really don't have anything to do with it. Y'all aren't there to see situations that take place. And I feel like I have every right to feel how I feel and I'm not gonna sit here and let somebody talk down to me or condescending and tell me it's because of this and this when you don't know.

I'm definitely not talking down to you. So is this how she responds when you two are together?

Most of the time I'm the one that walks away and I don't want her to feel the way she's feeling right now.

Well, the thing is that, no, I'm not talking to her down. What I was trying to help her to understand is that it's not about your actions. She has some issues. There's insecurities issues that she has there. And I could spot it. I just asked, has people cheated on you in the past? And she said yes. And I'm sure if I went deep into it, I'm sure a lot of those people who cheated on her cheated on her with men. Yeah. Am I right? Yeah. Good. Look, see, I didn't even need to know this. I could have put the two and two together. Put two and two together. And so now she's in a relationship with you where now you have a bubbly personality, you're friendly, and so she got triggered by that. And so now I'm triggered by you because it's reminding me of the people who cheated on me. And even though, and then she takes now the story of you being honest and vulnerable with her and saying, in my past I cheated. And now she's like, well look, you remind me of these women and you're also telling me you did this and now you are that woman. And now it causes you to spend the rest of your life with your head down, trying to prove to her that you're not that woman. And that's not fair to you. And that's what I was trying to help her to see. It doesn't mean she's a bad person. It just means she needs to— She's not actually a bad person. I believe it. I saw her so. I'm sad that she even got up from this because if she would've actually taken some time to listen to this, she would've known that I could see that she wants the love. She's craving the love. But the thing is, is that until she does this self-work to heal from her past, it's always gonna come up. I wish you the best of luck, though.

She took my phone when I was asleep. And I woke up, I went in her son's room. I'm like looking around like nobody's here. You know what I'm saying? So then I get his iPad, I call my phone, I keep calling. So she declined the call, kept declining it. I called again and she finally answered. Now she's raging in the phone, screaming or whatever, so. And all you're saying is, can I get my phone back? Can I get my phone back? No, you can't get your phone back. It doesn't matter. You still took my phone phone and you shouldn't have touched my phone. You're still in the house cheating though. You was just talking to a whole female the night prior before I took your phone. You was. You was telling the girl she looked good and all that. Yes, you was.

Is that true? That was true. Okay. So where did you end up going when she kicked you out?

I went to stay at my mom's house for a couple days. Okay. I was at my brother's.

Why y'all ain't believe her?

No, no, no, no, no. I went to stay at my mom's house. I went to stay at my mom's house over there. But you said you went to your brother's house.

All I heard when you said, I stayed at my mom's, all I heard was, everybody was sucking their teeth, talking about nah.

No, 'cause at first I went to my brother's house and I went and stayed at my mom's house. I was at my brother's house 'cause he has a phone and I was trying to get in contact with other people. 'Cause I had the iPad. They so untrusted, you see this?

Like, I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt 'cause I know better.

So why were you willing to come here today then? For my relationship. Stay in my relationship. See what, you know, we wouldn't have to prove my phone that there's nothing in my damn phone. We wouldn't have to be here though. We wouldn't have to be here though if you wouldn't, if you would stop doing the shit that you're doing. It's not the first time. I'm just tired of it. It's not the first time, not the second time, not the third time. You have done it so many times. Of course not. If you keep doing it over and over and over and over again, how can I get over it? No. I'm already showing you that I'm doing better than I'm doing. No, I'm not doing nothing. There's nothing in my phone. So how long have you just stopped talking to any other female besides me? How long? What's the longest that you went while you've been with me that you have not talked to no other female? Can you tell me that? Couple months. Couple months? Yeah.

Couple months. That wasn't no good defense. Not a couple months.

Shit, she's always on my phone. There's always something. Why would I not? But like some situations is like—

But you said that you have been showing her, Your exact words were, I've been showing you that I've been doing better, but you can't get over it. And then your explanation is a couple of months.

I'm saying a couple months because if you're going through my, I don't know, certain situations she's getting upset about it. It might be a conversation, you feel me? It's not like, oh, you're talking to this female. If I'm having a conversation, I'm just having a conversation with a girl. I can have girlfriends. You don't know how to just have conversations. I can have friends. You can have friends. You don't know how to have friends though. Yes, I do. Yes, I do. You get mad about everything. You don't know how to be friends with somebody. No, besides your annoying ass best friend because she's not cute.

Why do you two stay?

What is that? It don't matter if she's cute or not.

Who's the recurring girl? Wait, the recurring girl?

Well, I can't say. But that's the same girl that you said she's just a little ass girl. You don't gotta worry about her. Why are you worried about this little ass girl? But you talk to the little ass girl. Yeah, she's just a friend. Did nothing or whatever, nothing, nothing like that. I just talked to her on the phone and that. Have you kissed her before? No.

Have you had sex with her before? No. Have you held her hand before?

No. Have you kissed her before?

No. Have you told her nice things in messages?

We don't even text like that. We literally, like, it's talking on the phone, like a 3-hour conversation. How do you have a 3-hour conversation with a female and not have sex or not kiss, but you're on the phone with them all the time? How? And why don't you go be with her? Be with her if that's the case. I don't wanna be with her. We don't even sit on the phone for 3 hours and 2 hours. You can't sit on the phone for 2 hours and 3 hours. Because you're always doing something because you're always talking to another woman. I don't understand.

And 2 weeks ago y'all got physical? Yeah. Like physically fought? Yeah. And what was that like for you?

It was a lot.

Have you ever been in situations where your relationship has gotten physical? Yeah. You have?

But it's just a lot 'cause it's coming from her. You know, like I'm not expecting like, her to get like that? Because I try to hold my composure.

Have you ever been in relationships with a woman?

No, it's my first one. First one.

You told my producers that you're afraid to lose this relationship.

Why? Just 'cause she's somebody different. I actually love her. I actually value the relationship I have. But the whole fighting and the whole nine, going through my phone, I feel like that's intrusive privacy anyway. The first time it happened, I just felt like I have no privacy. You don't got no privacy. So that's what. What do you mean I don't have social medias? Just 'cause I delete them. 'Cause I delete them. Not because you don't want them, because you don't know how to act on your social medias. You're always telling somebody they look good or don't be a stranger. Yeah, what do you mean? That's why. And you know that.

Do you believe in monogamy?

Her last relationship, she was with 2 people at a time. That's why she thinks I'm gonna be. That don't matter. That don't matter. That's not her and she's not them, so that don't matter.

So why you trying to like to be with one person You prefer to be in a polygamist or open relationship where there's one multiple person where you can have sex with other people?

No, no, no, no, no, not like that.

So I read body language, so I can already tell you I know when you're lying, when you do things, because one of your tells, I'm gonna let you know, one of your tells, I'm gonna tell you this now just in case you're ever in a situation, you, every time you're about to say something that makes you uncomfortable or lie.

It makes me uncomfortable, but it's not like it's something I want. You know? Right. What do you guys think?

So I think there is a part of you, you're only 26. I think you've probably never been presented with the opportunity to be honest with somebody about what you really like. And I think you have gotten to a situation where you like to play home. And I don't know what's in your phone, but advice to you is that you should start being more honest because it becomes chaotic. And it becomes toxic when the honesty is not there and people don't have a choice. That's my only advice. But we're here for one thing, to unlock the phone. So it's time to unlock the phone. Let's do it. All right, Shay, we unlocked your phone. All right, Leigh wants to know if Shay has any inappropriate photos of other females in her phone. Shay says she does not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched her photos and found Shay is telling the truth. [APPLAUSE] Leigh, you wanna know if Shay has downloaded Instagram or Snapchat on her phone, two apps that you have specifically said you didn't want her to have. Shay says she has not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched her apps and found Shay is not telling the truth. Shay logged onto Instagram on November 2nd My birthday girl, you was over there acting up. On Instagram? And on Snapchat in October. So how does October—

October you deleted, that's when that happened. Okay, but how do you want me— Well, November you downloaded again and logged in. No, it's banned from my phone.

No, it's not. October, November 2nd, you stayed, you logged into Instagram. How do you say you're in this relationship but you keep on deleting it? At 10:30 at night, you logged into Instagram. Instagram. Don't make that face, I'm giving you specifics.

No, no, no, no, I know that time, but I'm saying that's the time that you had my phone, so that's— No, it couldn't have been, 'cause I would've seen Instagram. I would've been setting something up. Snapchat. No, I'm talking about Instagram.

Yeah, Instagram. Instagram. You logged on.

How do you say you wanna be in this relationship, but you keep doing shit to lose me? Like you keep doing shit to put yourself in a situation to lose me and my child. But you say you love me. How is any relationship like that? 'Cause you don't know how to act. You don't know how to act. You don't know how to— put like set boundaries or be like, I'm in a relationship. No. Okay. If you wanna be single, be single. I didn't get on there, I just logged on. You didn't get on there, but you just logged on? Like I didn't search or message nobody, I just logged on. Okay.

Lay wants to know if Shay has text to specific women. Shay says she has not. My Lock Phone Investigator searched her text and found Shay is not telling the truth. Specifically, there's one specific woman There's one specific thing that we wanna pull out, my investigator wanna pull out, which is on October 12th, there was a text exchange between Shay and the best friend revealing that, "I'm in the car with y'all. So hello, get on the phone. If the shoe don't fit, don't wear it. And pull it up to my last apartment with the big ass." I'm done with you.

That's what you want? You're pulling up to apartments? You pulled up to her apartment? Is that what she's saying? Yeah. You know what she's saying. October 2nd. I'm done with you. Go pull up to her house. I'm done with you. There ain't nothing else to talk about. You did.

Okay, Shay, come with me right now. Shay, come with me right now. I don't even know what that was. Shay, send the phone. So listen, no, no, no, no. Whether questioning this, let me, 'cause this is what I have for you. 'Cause let me tell you something. I have been where you been and I understand what it is like to be young, okay? You're attractive, you're handsome. I'm sure you pulling ladies left and right, but it's time for you to start being more honest. I'm telling you, the relationships you can have with yourself and with these women could be better if you can just find the truth in yourself. I know that you like to have multiple women. You enjoy it. Tell the truth, it's okay. You do, I know, I know. Live in your truth, live in your truth. This is what I'm trying to help you to see. The thing is, is there is a woman that is going to match your truth 'cause it will be her truth. But the unfortunate part for you is you causing yourself to be be in these situations where boundaries are being overstepped, where you have to feel like you're being controlled. You're 26 years old. You should be able to have Instagram on your phone, okay? And this is point blank. I understand why she doesn't want it because it's a boundary. It's about, hey, let's establish respect and trust. But the thing is, is that if you can't do that because you're not in that space, that is fine for you. No one's gonna tell you you can't be who you are, but it's about you finding the courage encouraging yourself to say, you know what, let me man up right now and say, yo, this is not what I want. Just be honest. This is done. Close it up nice. Don't go in there and argue. You understand? Lay, I know you backstage watching. I want you to go ahead and stay strong to this. There's a child that's watching. I wish you the best of luck.

One night we were supposed to be chilling and Netflix and chilling and she was getting a whole bunch of dings through her phone. I'm like, this don't sound like a normal Facebooker. You know, just emails being, so I'm like, "Who are you texting, my kid?" She like, "Oh, this is just one of my clients." And I'm thinking, "Okay, it's late and we having some us time right now. What's going on?" So I decided to take it upon myself while she's over there texting to log in and see exactly who she's texting. And she's texting Mr. Barbershop Man. So at this point in time, my heart is crushed. I'm broken. I'm sitting there and I'm just laying there like, "How could you?" Like really right up under my nose? Yeah. So I turns around and I'm just like, I wanna let it go for tonight. I didn't wanna start an argument with her. The next morning I went to work, I could barely even focus because I'm so concentrating on this girl's out here cheating on me.

Yeah.

Soon as I left the house, she called him.

'Cause you saw him when your phones are linked, you saw.

Exactly. Not only did she call him, but she turned around and left right after I went to work. So she met up with him. Got it. The whole time lying to me about where she's at. Whole time she's with him. I normally call her when I'm at work. I called, she answered, but the sound of her voice sound like she was trying to sound sexy for somebody. You don't sound like that, Mykia. You don't sound like that. Yeah. So I said, okay, what should I do? What should I do? Now I'm ready to leave work because I'm so frustrated and I'm so heartbroken. I call her and I ask her, where you at? I ask her again multiple times. She still kept lying to me. She finally made it home. I called her on FaceTime. She claimed that she wasn't with this person, she wasn't with that person. I said, "You're lying to me. You're lying to me because I know." "How do you know?" "I was at home this whole time." "No, you wasn't." She didn't wanna tell me, but I knew at this point in time, a week later, that's when I ended up confessing to her that I went through your phone. I went through your phone and this is what I found. And don't sit here and lie to me because I'm showing you right now. And I told her at this point in time, I'm ready to leave. I know she don't want me to leave and I don't wanna leave, but if that's what I gotta do, I'm gonna go. So from that point on, after me logging in and seeing that this specific number kept popping up and she's texting and calling this person every time I'm not around or even sometimes right up under my nose, that's when I took it upon myself to say, okay, today is the day you're not gonna be a dummy no more. Not today.

And when you confront her, what did she say to you?

She lie like she always do.

So it's constant lies? She's a habitual liar. Mykia handed over her phone to our investigators. What you wanted to find out is 3 things. You want to know, is she still talking to the guy she hooked up with at the barbershop, correct? You also wanna know if Mykia is meeting up with the guy from the barbershop. And you also wanna know if she's talking to any sneaky links on social media through text. Well, Janey says if today's results prove that Mykia is still cheating, the relationship Like she just said, it's over. So everyone, please welcome Mykia to the show. Yeah, bring that cheater out. How you doing? Hi. Nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you.

Can I get a hug? So you're hearing all these things. What are you feeling about that? Well, first of all. Are you still cheating?

I am not. And every time I did cheat, We have talked about that and she claimed to have forgiven me. But besides that, if anybody is untrustworthy, it's you. She's lying, Karamo. Because— She's putting on a show. For what reason? You're putting on a show. For what reason? You're putting on a show. For what reason? You're lying, you're lying. For what reason are you even searching my phone, searching my data, doing whatever you doing to get the information that you getting when you could've just asked?

How did you feel about the fact that she linked your phones?

I felt like my privacy was invaded. It's like if you keep accusing me of doing something even when I'm not doing it, you know what I mean? You accuse me, so I might as well just do what you said I did. And that's kind of how I feel with it or whatever. But also I feel like it's nothing wrong with being selfish sometimes.

You told my producers that you call yourself a self-promoter. Proclaimed cheater. What do you mean by that?

I think I might have said serial cheater. Serial cheater. Yeah, she's a liar, she's a cheater, and she's always been that. She says she—

you've known that she's been a cheater, that you knew that?

No, I mean, as I told you before, yes, she has cheated in the past before, but she got herself back together only to let me down the wrong path again. I just feel like at this point in time, I've been faithful to you, and I just want you to be faithful to me as I've been to you. And if you can't do that, then I'm gone. It's too many fish in the sea. And if you ain't pulling my way, somebody else will.

Period. Yeah. Are you still talking to the guy from the barbershop?

No, I'm not. Yes, she is. Yes, she is. No, I am not. Because after I gave her the ultimatum to stop talking to this man and block his number, she said she did. And I found her talking to him 3 months later. Is that true? No, that is not true. 3 months later. First of all, I met that man at the barbershop. Hair shop, yes, and we did exchange numbers and we did— And did the trust him to go get her hair cut? We did exchange numbers and we did have a few little conversations, but when the conversation started getting weird, I started being like, nah, you know, this ain't really what I want. And not only that, not only that, I just, like I said— I gave you 11 years of my life, there's no excuse for nothing that you have to say. It's no excuses, that's true. It's no excuses. But we have talked about this and my thing is, why do you claim to keep on, we already talked about all this stuff. So you claim to forgive me, but you keep bringing it up. So therefore, there's no way that we can get past this because you keep bringing it up. What's happening right now, Janaye? What's happening right now? What's happening right now, Janaye? Karamo, tell me what's happening. Unlock that phone. Unlock that phone. Unlock the phone.

Before we unlock this phone, Mykia, is there anything that you want Janaye to know? No. Okay.

A liar like she always been.

All right.

Let's go.

Janaye, you want to know, you want to find out if Mykia is still talking to the guy she hooked up with at the barbershop. Mykia, you denied that. My unlock the phone investigator searched Mykia's texts to see if they are still talking and she is telling the truth. She is not talking to the guy at the barbershop.

Okay. How do you feel? I mean, I feel good because I know I haven't done anything, so I don't have no reason to feel any type of way. I know that I've been faithful to her, so.

Mm-hmm, okay. Janey, you want to find out if Mykia is meeting up with the guy from the barbershop. Mykia denied it. My unlock the phone investigator went through Mykia's GPS to see if they've ever been together. And she is telling the truth.

I told you, I told you. The crazy part about it is— Why do I gotta keep, why? It's something about it that makes me feel like she's still lying. It's something about it that makes me feel like she's still lying.

We still got one more. Okay. Janay, you want to know if Mykia is talking to any sneaky links on social media or through text. My unlock the phone investigator went through Mykia's apps and found she is not telling the truth. We found two sneaky links that she was talking to.

So you still sitting up here lying to me? Girl, I said, please take a seat.

For what reason are you still lying to me? We got it. Don't put your hands on her though. Oh my God. Yeah. Well, listen, when you ask for sneaky links, we go off of what you're asking for. That means if there's any photos, any conversation that we're gonna find. My investigator found something. So what do you have to say?

The last time I did anything with anybody was the guy from the barbershop and we only met at the barbershop. Okay. But if you love me so much, for what reason was you, for what reason were you even talking to Mr. Barbershop Man? Mr. Sneaky Linker? It was really just a conversation at first and then things just went sour. So if that's who you wanted to talk to, why are you still here? Why were you here? I'm trying to figure that out. I love you and I wanna be with you.

Are you holding onto this relationship because of your daughter?

A part of me is holding onto it because of that, but another part of me is because that's where my heart is at. And I don't know how to walk away and maybe I might need some help, but I really genuinely love my kid and I wanna spend the rest of my life with her, but I don't wanna keep being hurt.

My kid, do you consider talking cheating? Yeah. So you do consider talking cheating? Yeah. So if you just talking to somebody, doesn't mean you slept with them, that you are acknowledging that would be cheating?

That is definitely cheating.

I think still. Okay, great. So you got the answers you needed. So how are you feeling in this moment?

I'm feeling like it's over. I'm done. I'm done. I keep, I gotta go. I'm done.

Do you believe this is done? 'Cause I don't. 'Cause I don't believe it's done.

She been saying it for a while and At the end of the day, if this is what it comes to for us to break up, for her to know that I really, really wanna be with her regardless of whatever mistakes I make, then it's just gonna be what it is because my feelings is hurt just as well as her feelings is hurt.

What's hurting you emotionally?

Because I really wanna be with her and I do make mistakes and I've been around serial cheaters my entire life and this is how I am. And even before I got in a relationship with her, she knew this.

But this is not how you are. This is a choice of how you're trying to be. This is a choice. Do you really want monogamy? I'm not sure.

I really don't know.

I'm not sure. That's the most honest thing that I've heard you say right now. Y'all got the truth, y'all got the information, and I actually honestly wish y'all the best of luck in truth and communication. You hear me? Thank you. Good luck to y'all.

I've been locked up since I was 12. You hear me? So when I got grown, I was out periodically for no longer than 35 days at a time. So that means it was a lot I didn't know. I didn't know how to cook, I didn't know how to clean, and I didn't know how to wash clothes. And I sure didn't know how to take care of 3 babies. You know what I'm saying? But I thought I could. But I never had no responsibilities. It's always been just me. So when we got out, I didn't know that she was at a motel. But if I would've knew, I could've better prepared myself to be a help for her. Yes, she had got me a job. Hold on, let me talk. You had your moment. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Because so it's like this here, hold on. That comes with the pipe change. But what I'm saying is this, I ain't never had no job. That was my first job. I was on a lot of psych meds in prison just to try to sleep away my time, you know what I'm saying? So when I got out, I cut all that out and it's like I'm sluggish because I wasn't accustomed to to, you know what I'm saying, like being out and about like that, you know what I'm saying? So by then I panicked, I got cold feet, you know what I'm saying, or whatever, and I felt like it was too much for me. I left, I did, and I was wrong, and I regret that to this day. That's why I'm here, 'cause I wanna prove to you that I'm not living like that no more. I don't use women. I ain't never needed a woman for nothing, you get what I'm saying? I'm a woman before I'm anything. I bend over and make love to myself before I need a bitch like that, you get what I'm saying? Straight up. Never. I've always came with my own. I've always held my own.

So you did run off with another woman though, just at that time when you were married?

I didn't run off with another woman, I left and went to another one.

Got it, okay.

But I didn't run off with her, I left and went there. Right? More than one time. More than one time, but listen, the first time was because I had cold feet, you know what I'm saying, or whatever, I panicked. But the other times I left, Kiesha can be a bully. You feel me? And this a lot of women. Baby, I'm a little body. Look at me, I'm a little body. But she got a big mouth. I got a mouth. She got a big mouth. Who got a mouth? I got two. So guess what? Guess what? Why I gotta downplay my mouth and shut up to let you talk? So why I gotta do it? Why you can't just compromise? You don't, but guess what though? It don't have to be, it don't have to go to that extreme all the time to where you force me to, you put my back against the wall to make me feel like I need to go because I feel bullied, you get what I'm saying? And then I sit there and hear you— That's the reason why you wanna leave it. Then I sit here and hear you talking about, oh, you felt like you were preparing for Satan. Well, won't you repent for your sins then? 'Cause you ain't no angel. I can't wait till you show whatever the hell on them phones 'cause I called. And at first they wouldn't even request her phone. I request that shit. Okay. I didn't even know. Everything I did, she nobody. You hear me? And like they said, why you accept me back? You accept me back because you love me and you know I love you. And that's what I said. But after that shit, you ain't have to do it. I ain't have to deal with it.

I could've went on with somebody else.

You said, the one that I left. That's all the time. That's the only female. Can't name another bitch. Excuse me. Woman, woman, whatever. Can never say I laid with her in no kind of way. That's your mind. And I feel like you use that as a cop out. No, I didn't. I feel like you was shimming me back. Like how many times? You're setting me back just to hold it over my head while you do what you wanna do. You act like you really care, but at the same time, don't keep taking advantage of me either. Do you sit there and go back in your mind and keep bringing up about what you was the person to do? When you doing similar things, I can like keep saying, I don't go nowhere. If I wanted to leave, I would be gone. What's keeping me? So if I wanted to be with somebody else, you would've never came back. Okay, but that's what I'm saying. Trick or treat. But why do we go through all that? I remember saying, because I have trust issues. If you're gonna be with me. But I ain't where your trust issues started at. It didn't start with me. It did start with you. Let me tell you. Man, we had this one. And he tried to warn me. But I thought he was just hating. Like, you know what I'm saying? I keep talking about, I thought he was hating. You feel me? When he tried to tell me, I'm like, man, he don't know what he talking about. But then I be down. But that's another story.

Did one of you send the other audio of you having sex while you're cheating?

She tried to say me. What she did was, sent me a voice clipping of her moaning, and I know sex wasn't for real, and I know when a person playing. You feel me? And then she sent me a photo sitting on a bed with a white girl saying, "I don't like black women no more. I'm dating a white girl now." When she left me, she took my money. And you could tell by the way the picture looked, I was hurt. I was hurt that she took a picture of this girl. Just to try to get back at her. But she know I'm not from Jacksonville. I have no family here. So when she make me feel intimidated and make me feel bullied and I have nowhere to go, I done slept under a bridge. You feel me? Literally, I'm talking about dead serious and she know it. She can't be goddamn lying. Just to prove to her that I wasn't gonna go back to the other girl when me and her got into it.

Is this how y'all communicate all the time? It ain't no communication.

It ain't no communication. I don't do all that. I gotta let her talk. Listen here, I need to find out what's going on, so I think it's time to unlock the phone. I wanna know what's going on. I seen her checking her phone last night like she said she might have ran into somebody. I wanna see.

All right, Savina, we unlocked your phone. Here we go. Let's go. Kyeshia, you wanna know if Savina is still talking to women she first left you for. Hell no. Savina says she is not. Uh-huh. My Lock the Phone investigators searched her texts and found she's telling the truth.

I love you. We not done yet.

We not done yet. No, Kaisha, you want to know? Kaisha, you want to know if Savina is requesting money?

Savina be on my phone talking to the people trying to holler at Baby, make sure you one of those. Huh?

Yeah. Well, no, we in yours, Kyeshia. You wanna know Savina is requesting money from other women. Savina says she's not. My Lock the Phone investigator searched her apps and found she's telling the truth. Come on, man.

So you gonna marry me now or what? What I'm talking about? I told you I ain't fucking no man. She be so, this girl got me. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

All right, hold on, we not done yet.

Hold on, we not done yet. She too hard. She too hard. When she get mad at me, I leave my phone in the room and go somewhere else. That way I ain't gotta worry about her bullying me thinking I'm on the phone doing something else.

Hold on, we're not done. Kyeshia, you wanna know if Savina is messaging any other women through social media? Savina says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her phone and found— She's telling the truth. She's telling the truth.

I got a screenshot when she was talking to the girl. All that. She sent it to me. All that. But you sent the video, the screenshot of the girl calling your phone talking about how she gonna always be a part of your life. You forgot that? What? Well, you know it ain't real, boy, 'cause my mind don't remember, my phone don't remember. Don't start, but don't start.

My phone, I can't hear you. My phone. Kiesha, we unlocked your phone.

Girl, you better pray. Girl, for what? You better pray. I ain't praying.

Savina, you wanna know if Kyeshia is sexting with a specific ex. Kyeshia says she is not. My Lock the Phone investigator searched her texts and found she's telling the truth.

She better be. She better be.

I will tell you this, Kyeshia has been communicating with this specific ex, but it's only about children. Oh, it better be. Only about children. Savina, you wanna know if Kyeshia is on any dating sites. Kyesha says she is not. My Lock the Phone investigator searched her apps and found she's telling the truth.

You seem nervous right there. She was. Girl, why you nervous right there? You know I had that dating app that second time she left me. She had to think about it. The second time she left me, I was getting hooked on somebody else 'cause I really wanted to be with a girl, man.

All right, well, Savina, you wanna know if Kyesha has been communicating with a specific male neighbor. Kyesha says she is not. My Lockdown Phone investigator searched her calls and found she's not telling the truth. My investigator found that Kyeshia has 167 calls between her and [MASKED]. The last call was as of September 7th.

I wanna know what's on though in the text. Girl, girl, you so drunk tonight. And it's really your ass. You got jokes. No, it ain't me. You got jokes. No, I wanna know what's going on. Also the dude when I put her out, or when she was leaving, giving her a bed to sleep in. And also the one you told me you were gonna cheat on me with. And the one who you also, that's why I said that, but I won't do nothing like that. I know you ain't, 'cause I ain't doing shit. You slept in your bed and you slept in mine. I sure appreciate it. And you slept on the floor. And you slept with him. And we slept on the floor. And you slept with him. Anybody throw anything around here, it's gonna be me. That's the only thing swinging is mine. That's something to do. I don't like hard legs. I like, ouch, I broke a nail. Not them, I broke my toe. They was doing all that. I'm not gay. That's gay to me. Hi. That's gay to me. I don't like men. I feel like I'm the closest thing to a man. I'm all the man I need. All a man can do is lead me to the nearest woman. But you say you're available for anything. I'm a woman.

I'm gonna give y'all a tip, okay? 'Cause I actually enjoy y'all. And I enjoy y'all. I think that there's a lot of high spirits, but also a lot of love here. And clearly y'all ain't doing nothing. Through the fun, I can see in the fun at home can turn into an argument real quick. Real quick. Yeah, 'cause she gonna take over. The thing that's not happening here is conversations and compromise. Compromise. And y'all need to compromise. Y'all are gonna have to find a way when you feel triggered, when you feel like she's bullying you and not respecting you.

I find a way, I go get in the shower. I would leave her out there by herself.

So that only reinforces the issue she having, which is that you're gonna abandon me and leave me again.

But listen, that's what I'm saying. I don't leave. It's like she'll escalate herself and she'll keep going on and make herself mad.

Because you as well have to find some space in your heart to be able to allow this to have real conversations and allow her to have her opinion heard as well.