She R*ped Me, That's Not My Baby! | KARAMO

I'm laying down in the bed like this. And I wake up with you on top of me.

I think LaToya is a liar. She had another man in the hospital when the baby was born instead of me, so I really didn't know how to take it. He could be the dad, I could be the dad. She wouldn't let me in the hospital at all. Like, I saw like a few different dudes around when the baby was born. If it ain't mine, then it's one of theirs, but I told LaToya that I didn't want no relationships, I wasn't ready for a kid. I was very adamant. About telling LaToya that, but she ended up, I ended up waking up with her on top of me while I was asleep.

Yeah, she did rape me.

I was asleep when she got on top of me. There's no consensual in that. When you're asleep, how the hell you know what's going on? You don't know what's going on. Time went by, she ended up saying she was pregnant. I'll be honest, she really didn't let me see Honesty for like the first 6 to 8 months of her life. And then after I did get to see Honesty, like I had to take the initiative to come to her. Well, I wanna find out if she's mine, but if y'all really want me to be honest, I really don't care if she is or she isn't.

Well, everyone help me please welcome LaToya to the show so we can hear her side of the story. Okay, how you doing, LaToya?

How you doing, Karamo?

I'm all right, but I gotta say, the first allegation he made in this is that you raped him. That's a very serious allegation. How do you feel about that?

Excuse my French.

Did you rape him?

No, he's full of shit. First and foremost. He's correct about we weren't in a relationship. He was working, I was working. It was just, to be honest with you, just, it was for entertainment purposes.

Yeah. Since you said that you did not rape him, how did you find out that he was, he's been telling people that you raped him?

It was a guy that came into my place of business where I worked at and he asked me, he's like, aren't you such and such as Raymond's are you the mother of his child? And I said, unfortunately, yes, I am. So he was like, well, when you get a second, could you step outside so I could tell you what he's been saying? So I step outside my place of business and he was like, yeah, I just wanna let you know, he's going around telling everybody that you raped him and that's how you got pregnant.

Were you sleeping with other men when you got pregnant?

No.

Okay, so it was just him?

Yes.

So you were sleeping with other men?

That's one thing, listen, Karamo, this is one thing. Yes, we weren't in a relationship, but if I'm only messing with you, I'm only messing with you. You understand what I'm saying?

But in that tape, he's made allegations that you had another man in the delivery room.

Oh, I did.

Okay.

Oh, I did. It was one of my friends.

One of your friends, okay.

It was one of my friends.

He said, I did.

I did, I did.

Yeah, I'm not gonna lie about it. Listen, I'm 41 years old. What am I gonna lie for?

Yeah.

Yes, there was someone else in the delivery room because Raymond, prior to that, Raymond, he threatened me, said he was gonna have people come to my house, jump on me. He said he was gonna shoot me.

What?

So yes, prior to that, me and Raymond had went to one of my doctor's appointments where they told me, once I had Honesty, I was gonna have to have a hysterectomy. So she was gonna be my last child. You know, I cried about it until they told me no more periods.

And then I was like, okay, all right, let's go.

So yes, I did have another person in the room because I'm like this. I didn't know, I was scared. I didn't know what was gonna happen. And he thought I really wanted him in the room and I'm scared. I don't know what's gonna go on.

Yeah, you wanna make sure you're safe and your baby's safe.

I didn't want him in there anyway, even if it didn't go on because he would've been the one to tell them don't resuscitate.

Yeah. So you changed Honesty's name?

Yes, I did.

And why?

Yes, I did. Okay, me and Raymond, at the point when me and Raymond was actually conversating cordial, we were gonna name her Rayla because it's Raymond and LaToya put together.

Okay.

So I changed it to Honesty because honesty is honestly the best thing I got from him. So she's a very smart kid.

Did he see your daughter after she was born?

He's only seen her 4 times in her life.

And how old is she?

She is about to be 5 in November. Oh.

What do you want from him if he is the father?

I want him to acknowledge her. I want him to stop saying he doesn't know or if maybe or I don't, you know, I want him to acknowledge her. It's not about me, it's not about him, it's about her. I feel like this, you don't need to be together with anyone to help raise your child.

Listen, that's it.

So at the end of the day.

You just do what's right for the kid.

Listen, she, Get to know her so she can know you.

All right, well listen everyone, help me welcome Raymond to the show so we can get his side of the story.

Jerome.

Hey Raymond, nice to meet you.

What up Karamo?

So I got a little camera, I can see you backstage and I saw you mouthing liar, liar, liar backstage.

So that's what we doing today? I just asked the question, you can say yes or no. That's what we doing today?

It's not about you.

It's not about, it's about the baby.

That part.

So at the end of the day, let's get it. So at the end of the day, why is it taking 5 years for this? This and I only see my daughter 4 times? First of all, when I was living in Pittsburgh after the baby was born, the first 6 to 8 months I wasn't allowed to see her.

Then after that, I may— but then after that, I'mma get to that. But then after that, but then after that, but then after that, didn't I come see the baby? I had people bring me to come see the baby.

How many times?

Even though you had men in the house.

How many times?

You had, you had Men in the house.

How many times?

It doesn't matter who's in the house. I seen honesty more than 4 times with me living in Pittsburgh.

Lies.

What are you talking about?

Lies, you're motherfucker.

So she's saying you're lying, but you were saying backstage she was lying. What was she lying about?

Yes, the condom broke.

Yes, that happened. But then she's not gonna bring up the fact that while I'm sitting there asleep after a 3-night binge trying to get some money, mind you though, we gonna keep it 100, you was my best friend, shorty. Right or wrong?

Right.

Right.

So when I came to your house that night and said, yo, I've been out for three nights making money, I need somewhere to lay my head. You told me, go upstairs and lay down. I went upstairs and laid down. When I woke up, you was on top of me.

Shorty, hold up.

Don't don't, don't you ask me to come upstairs.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Cause we're not about to argue. We not about to argue.

We about to get this.

We're not about to argue.

We about to get this all out. Don't even worry about it.

So we. So we not about to say that. But at the end of the day, Karamo, let's, let's. Let's take the subject off of me. We gonna flip it. Now she's asleep. I want some. I get on top of her and she wake up and I'm on top of her and her. What that mean to me? I'm going to jail.

Lies.

I'm going to jail. Lies.

So you're saying that she did rape you from what you're saying?

Shorty, I'm laying down in the bed like this and I wake up with you on top of me. Come on.

Who asked me to come upstairs?

I didn't ask you to come upstairs.

Oh, oh, oh.

Like, what are you talking about?

Stop playing with me, stop playing with me. Like I said, at the end of the day, skirt, cut that. It's about honesty, let's get it.

So, but at the end of the day, 5 years I've been asking you for a DNA test.

Did you threaten, 'cause she told me earlier that you threatened to beat her up, to even shoot her, is that true?

Never said I would shoot her.

But you did threaten to beat her up.

I told her she put her hands on me, I slap the bitch down.

But at the end of the day, at the end of the day, you're not, You're not gonna put your hands on me.

First of all, I've never put my hands on you.

Never until you tried to take my keys and we walked into the 7-Eleven and you tried to choke me and what happened? I punched you all in your face.

Make it make sense.

That's the only time anything came involved about a shooting was when you threw that speaker at me and I wasn't even gonna do nothing to you. I've never put my hands on you, nothing.

Lies.

I put my hands on you before? Why? I put my hands on you before?

You spoke to me.

What are you talking about? And what did you do, snatch me? I punched you all in your face. You snatched me up by the neck. What do you mean? Yeah, but what happened?

What are we talking about? We're talking about Honesty. Bro, this is not about us.

Let me ask you this.

How many times have you seen the baby from your point of view?

I've seen Honesty about 6 times in Pittsburgh. 4. And then since I've been out of Pittsburgh, I've contacted her.

How did she become—

Hey, are you gonna shut up and let me talk?

How did she get down to North Carolina?

Why you had to come down to North Carolina? Are you gonna shut up and let me talk? No, answer the question. They sat there and heard your story. They sat there and heard your story, Kiki.

You paid for it, did you?

Look, I'm not about to— I'm not about to— Okay. Okay. It ain't my job to pay for— I don't know if this kid's mine or not. They've been 5 years. You only gave me $35. I didn't give you nothing.

Make it make sense.

I didn't give you nothing.

Your mom gave it to me.

I didn't give you shit.

Your mother gave it to me.

So you're admitting, you're saying you have not given any support to the child?

Not at all.

Okay.

Would I say, all right, we can try this relationship? And we tried it. And it didn't work.

No, you didn't. No, you didn't say that.

You got one more time to cut me off and walk off stage and let you have it.

Because I obviously—

I'm done with you. It's nothing.

Obviously, you want your 15 minutes of fame.

No, I want this to be about you stop saying that you're not Honesty's father.

I'm not.

Raymond, I wanna know from you.

Ask the man that was in the hospital with you.

So is that why you have doubts? Because of the man that was in the hospital?

That's probably why I wasn't allowed in there. In the hospital because she knew I was gonna get a DNA test.

You are not in the hospital because you threatened me.

Shorty, I wanna— What do you mean? Shorty, I wanna—

Make it make sense, Traci.

Do you have feelings for LaToya?

I still got love for her. Of course.

She sure have feelings.

Of course.

Like at the end of the day, she was my best friend, dog. Like I was homeless, I was the first—

You know what her favorite color is?

Shut up. You know what her favorite color is?

Shut up. Do you know what she eats every day?

Can you shut up? You know she know how to count diamonds? Can you shut up? You know she know how to spell her name? Yes, I do.

First, last, and how you call her. Yes, I do.

But can you shut up so I can talk to Karamo? Then that's my fault.

That's not how you talk to a grown-ass woman that takes care of her child every day.

That's not how you talk to me. But I'm not about to keep letting you cut me off. They sat here and heard what you had to say. And they're still gonna continue to hear me. You're stopping them from hearing what I have to say. So obviously what I have to say is not important, just like when you raped me. Just like when I wasn't allowed to go in the hospital. Just like when I wasn't allowed to go in the hospital. Just like all the other stuff. My G, you had two men in that crib with that baby, raising that baby for 6 to 8 months. And then you wanna put the baby on me?

Okay, Raymond.

So you said in your tape piece that you don't care if she is your daughter.

I don't, I just wanna know because if it is, I wanna do the best I can.

Then stop saying you don't care.

Like I said, at the end of the day, she wins whether she wins or loses because if I'm not the dad, I'm still gonna do what I gotta do. No kid needs to be raised without no dad.

No, you don't.

At the end of the day, what got me mad is and what got me upset is the fact that if this supposed to be my child, I don't give a damn what we going through. I went up there with all responsibility to watch this girl get born. I watched both my other kids be born. You stopped me and deprived me from watching my daughter born, supposedly. And you let another—

I did.

Hold on, I did.

This is why though.

This is why though. No, no, no, no. And then you got a whole nother man for 3 to 6 months raising my daughter, and then you got a whole nother man after you break up with him help raise my daughter. Are you tweaking?

First of all, what you ain't gonna do, another man will. stop playing with me.

And what you want to do. No, no.

So, Latoya, this is it. You named your daughter Honesty. And I think it's time that we get the truth.

Yes. Thank you. Thank you.

So, Latoya, in this envelope is a DNA truth. It has been five years that you have wanted to know.

No. Let me get that. I want to open it.

No, thank you.

I ain't get the. Hold on, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Can I ask a question?

No.

If I was. If I wasn't allowed to see my daughter get born, I should be allowed to open up the test results, right?

At the end of the day, we gonna wrap it up about this.

Let's open it together.

Oh, negative.

Let's open it together.

Negative.

Let's open it together.

Negative. Negative.

Your truth's open.

Negative.

Not mine, go for it.

It's my truth?

Your truth's open, go for it.

I'm about to go sit.

Yeah, please do. Here you go, you want me to pull out the chair for you?

No, I don't want you to touch nothing.

You still look nice though.

I don't care.

You look beautiful, I like your hair. I want the truth. Things happen, we're grown. At the end of the day, I can admit my wrongs. As you've seen, I've been admitting my wrongs. Admit it again! You are the father! You are the fucking father! Free to go, Karamo. Free to go. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Now guess what? Now guess what? I get to be a dad to my daughter. That's all I've been wanting. Do that. Do that. Do that. Do that. No, no. Can I ask one thing? Can I ask one thing? Am I gonna have to deal with this?

You're gonna have to deal with me for the rest of your life, so.

No, no, no, I'm talking about honesty.

This is where it comes in, no, this is where it comes in.

I am the dad.

You are the father. The way you co-parent is gonna be based on the way you communicate with your child.

That's what I'm asking.

Yes, but that's gonna be.

That's my question.

So the only person you can't ask her if she's gonna, is you gotta only control your own actions.

I am.

I will tell you this, you need to be honest with yourself, there's no relationship here. And even sweet talking her and saying those things.

It's not, I just wanna know if we're gonna be able to co-parent like adults.

Well, I think from this point on, From this point on, I think again, this is why this is important about your actions because for 5 years she has been the sole parent. For 5 years your mother has stepped in in a place where you have not been. And I understand that you had doubts and I understand that those doubts were not confirmed. And so therefore you felt like these are actions I gotta take. But at this point here, it's based on what you're gonna do from here on out.

Yeah, I'm gonna be a father.

She showed up, she's been there. So now you have to be honest with yourself and say, you know what, I can't involve you. I can't talk about you. Say sweet things or mean things.

At the end of the day, I didn't wanna deal with attitude, heartache, none of that. She knows what I've been through with my child's mom. She knows, and you're putting me through it again.

Negative. What's making me upset is that we were friends at first. You know what I mean? We were friends. I never lied to him about anything. I never lied to him. So why I'm not gonna sit up here and pin a baby on a man If I'm not for sure, I know who I was intimate with. Nobody else knew but me, that room, and you.

But I didn't know.

So at the end of the day. I didn't know. You gave me all the reasons to have doubts. What reasons? And I hate to say this.

We're not gonna go rehash that.

I hate to say this.

So again, this is where I mean for you, this is where like rehashing that, 'cause I understand you have your feelings, is gonna cause you to be in this cycle where you two are arguing.

I'm not arguing with her, bro.

Look.

Well, I'm watching you argue with her. I'm watching you rehash and defend actions.

Yeah, I'm gonna defend myself, Karamo. I don't care what you say. I'm going to defend myself. But at the end of the day, I want her to know that I'm still going to try to make it right.

That's all I'm asking.

That's all I want.

That's all I want.

Listen, I wish you all the best of luck. Latoya, I'm happy you got your answers. Raymond, I'm happy that you got your answers as well. And I really hope that the communication can stay in the present and not in the past. For honesty's sake.

All right?

All right, everyone, stay with us, friends.

We'll be right back with more.