She SLEPT With My 70-YEAR-OLD Relative! | KARAMO

My girlfriend is pregnant and I can't get excited because I don't know if this child is mine. I'm convinced Ayanna is cheating on me. She been sneaking out our room late at night. I don't know where she going. I've been trying to catch her, so I put things by the door just to see if they gonna be moved the next morning. Cases of water, clothes, whatever I can find. I think she's moving it before she's coming back in bed. And the next morning they been moved just a little. I caught her flashing lights in my face to see if I'm sleeping or not. Why would she do that unless she was trying to be with someone else? I think she slept with one of my family members. I don't care if he's over 70. Why the hell is he looking at her legs? I need Ayonna phone unlocked to finally see what's going on.

Listen, y'all, we will talk to Stephan a little later, but first let's talk to Ayonna.

Hi.

So I gotta ask you point blank, have you been sleeping with Stephon's 70-year-old relative?

No, do it look like I sleep with his 70-year-old relative? This man is too old, like, come on now, like you can't be for real.

When did Stephon start accusing you of cheating on him?

Like the beginning of our relationship when we decided to be in a relationship and he was incarcerated before we decided to be in a relationship. Official relationship, like we was talking on and off before that, but once we jumped into the relationship, I'm talking like last October, he just started accusing me of cheating.

Does he accuse you of cheating in front of other people?

Yes, he will say that I'm getting and say that, he'll say it to his family, like he'll say it to his cousins, like, "Yeah, she sleeping with your man." And just this weekend he just said to his cousin like, "I'm just a bitch and—" How'd that make you feel?

Emotional.

Like, you straight really think these things about me? Like, he really think 'em. Like, he would swear up and down his baby mother is deceased. He would swear up and down on his baby mother. That you are the one. And I'd be like, you straight burning up your baby mama. Like, you straight dead serious. He like, "Yeah, I'm dead serious." I'm like, "Oh my God. Like, you for real." Yeah.

How old are you? I'm 22. 22. And y'all been together for 3 years, so you are—

3 years in a relationship for like a year now. Yeah, 3 years.

And how old is he? He 33. Okay, 33. How did y'all first get together?

I live next door to him and he wanted to talk to me. And so that's how y'all got together? And we just started talking, yeah, texting.

Were you faithful to Stephon?

No, I was not faithful to Stephon at the beginning. He was doing him, he had other females. Females I knew about, and I was talking to somebody and he knew.

Tell me about your first pregnancy.

I'm young, so me, this being my first pregnancy, I didn't know how pregnancy worked. Like, I didn't know it go days and all that. Then, then when I started going to the doctor, I was like already like 2 months ahead, and my mom was like, you sure he the baby father? And I'm like, I, yeah, like I thought he was, because when I found out, he was already out. So she was like, "I don't think that's his baby and I think you should get a DNA test." But she told me to wait until I had the baby. And I'm like, "No," 'cause the person that I was pregnant by didn't want kids. And I wasn't finna just have no kid and this man don't want no kids. The man I was pregnant by, he was older than me too. But I'm not finna put no baby on nobody. Like, no. Like, if it ain't his baby, I'm not finna just have a baby by somebody that don't want a kid. When I was dealing with him, we already made it clear that we was not gonna have no kids together or anything like that. So, I was telling my mama like, I can't keep that from him. It made me real emotional, I was crying about it and stuff. And when I broke it to him, he already, him knowing me, he already knew that I had something to tell him. So, I had ended up telling him like, the baby might not be yours. And when I told him, I got real emotional and stuff. 'Cause it was just crazy to me, like he was not the baby father. It made me think like he probably wasn't the baby father if the timing was wrong or whatever like that. He was like, we'll work through it, we'll figure it out. Okay, so he was— But yeah, yeah, he was with it. He was like, we'll work through it, we'll figure it out and stuff like that. Got it. By him being a man and him being way older than me, I feel like you just wanna do you. And I told him that, I'm like, I understand that you fresh outta jail and I'm not expecting you to be loyal to me or give me no type of commitment because I know how men are. Okay.

Well, I think it's time to hear Stephon's side of the story. So everyone please welcome Stephon to the show. How you doing, Stephon? How you doing?

What's up?

I'm good, man. I'm blessed. Yeah, you blessed, man. So why do you think Ayonna is cheating on you with your 70-year-old relative?

Because the way he look at her legs and stuff and he do these type of things and then she act like she don't see him. She act like it don't exist and I'm looking dead into myself.

I caught that man looking at me one time.

Well, I caught several times.

If you caught him, why don't you check him instead of assuming that she's doing something?

I did, I did that.

You did do it? You did do that? Okay.

He ain't do it when it's actually happening though. No, because I let it play out. When I called it out, when I had on some shorts and the man, he looked and he looked like, dang, I never seen that before. I told Steph, I'm like, look how he looking at me. He like, how he looking at you? You like that? Like, I like it?

When you confronted him, what did he say about this?

He'll say, I don't want Ayonna, but I done seen several times where she go to the bathroom, he end up at the bathroom door. Why did you standing by the bathroom door, folks? I'm like, what is you doing?

I don't think he tripping off me though.

Got it. What do your other family say about all this?

They really don't know, you know what I'm saying? These my eyes, so they can't tell me what I'm seeing, you know what I'm saying? They not thirsty, but they'll say like, "Stephon, you tripping, man." They like, "You tripping," you know what I'm saying?

[Speaker:KARAMO] Yeah. All right, tell me what you think is going on with Ayonna after you fall asleep.

[Speaker:STEPHON] One night I caught her flashing lights in my eyes. Lights while I was asleep. So I'm laying there asleep and she like this, like, you know what I'm saying? Trying to see if I'm woke or not.

What were you doing that with the lights? What were you doing with them?

I don't be putting no lights up in that man face. What for? What?

Have you ever been able to catch her sneaking out? No.

Um, I just catch her like the times I had set my little traps. I can tell they was moving.

He is lying. He is lying.

So, got it. I done put cases of water by the door, you know what I'm saying, stuff like that, she know.

He is lying.

No, I'm not. He is lying.

So why don't you think that this baby Ayonna is carrying is not yours? Because the first situation when she said the baby—

The first situation, that's where you go.

You should never bring that up. I gotta bring it up because—

You don't have to bring that up 'cause the crazy part about that, my big sister that the same age as him told me Ain't nothing gonna change, Iyana. He's still gonna try to accuse you. No, I'm not bringing it up to make her look bad. Oh, that's the first situation. Oh, that's the first situation. Oh, you had the baby daddy the first situation. You can't blame that because I got pregnant before you even came home. I was pregnant. It's not my fault that I didn't know that I was pregnant. It's not my fault that I did not know for sure that you was the baby father. We was not dealing with each other when you was locked up.

But you handled it. Yeah, I handled it. I went to the doctor's appointment with her.

He went to the doctor with me and everything.

I went to the abortion clinic with her and everything, you know what I'm saying? I took it like, 'cause I know how it go.

So why are you still convinced that she's cheating?

Because the things that's going on around me that I'm catching, you know what I'm saying, that I'm seeing, and the things that she acting like she not seeing, so.

So can I ask you directly, have you ever cheated on her?

Yeah, I cheated. He was just cheating on me. He was just talking to other females, right? No, I'm saying, listen, man. And stuff, like you texting your exes and saying it's okay.

That's what she called you.

With one of his exes, I did say it was okay 'cause she like, they got some type of friendship they wanna have or whatever. I'm not no insecure girl.

It's no sexual thing though.

I'm not jealous, I'm not none of that. And I know she has nothing on me for me to care about him talking to her. So I was accepting him talking to her and I'm like, y'all friends, y'all can continue to be friends. You wanna have her pull up and bring her ass bring you some money for your kids, you wanna have her pull up and bring some money or whatever, for us or whatever, go ahead, do your thing, player. But that was the only situation I allowed. But no, he texted her every day.

I ain't did nothing sexual though with 'em though, that's all. It was just texting, that's it.

Telling them to pull up, his baby mamas, he threatening me with his baby mamas. He just threatened me the other night talking about, I finna have my baby mama come over and straighten your ass out.

So when was the last time you had sex with another woman?

I went with her, we went together.

Okay, so it was like 6 months ago? Probably a year. A year, okay. Since you've been officially together, have either of you trusted the other person or has this been like this since?

He said he don't trust me. And you don't trust him? I trust him 'cause he not doing nothing. I know he ain't doing nothing. Like I see him every day. We together all day, 24/7. His granny even be like, "How she doing this and y'all up under each other? Y'all need to get away from each other." So I know he not doing nothing. But for you to say that I'm doing this and that every day, all day and night.

She tried to say to me like that she's loyal, you know what I'm saying? I'm very loyal. She like, but ain't nobody loyal. I'm very loyal. At the moment. Don't believe that.

At the moment I'm very loyal. At the moment since we've been in the relationship, I've been very loyal, very upfront, very, Yes, I tell him everything. He really the only person I really deal with. Like, I don't deal with family members. I don't talk to friends. I don't know. It's just me.

I don't stop what I do.

I didn't say you did. He ain't controlling nothing, but I don't know.

Is this your first child? Yeah. This your first child? No. How many other children do you have? I have 5. 5 other children. Okay. Got it. And we're here to unlock a phone. Yeah, my phone. Yeah. Stephon, why do you want her phone unlocked?

Because I'm here to, you know, to see, you know what I'm saying? 'Cause I had watched the show and I know how you get down and I want to see.

Yeah. You know I'ma find it, you know I'ma find it. I'm texting my phone. So question, so question, why didn't we unlock your phone too? No, 'cause my phone broke. Okay, your phone broke. My phone broke.

But you could've still went through messages of his. Yeah, I was saying, look, all my pages, my Facebook pages, everything is on her phone. She know the code. I don't even know the password.

She know everything. Got it, got it, got it. Okay, well, Ayanna, it's time to unlock your phone.

There you go.

Ayanna, we unlocked your phone.

Okay.

Stephon, you wanna know if Ayanna is sexting with any of his family members? She says she's not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her DMs and found that Ayanna Is telling the truth. Stephon, you wanna know if Ayanna has any secret apps on her phone. She says she does not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched her phone and found that Ayanna is telling the truth. It's me. Stephon, you wanna know if Ayanna is sending men any explicit photos. She says she is not. My locked-up phone investigator searched her texts and found that Ayanna is telling the truth. We even checked to see if she was sneaking out, leaving the house at any time. Selling. She has done nothing. She's done nothing at all. This young woman is doing nothing. Okay. And not getting paid for it, I guess.

Okay.

So how do you feel knowing that? Well, it's a big release.

I'm feeling more comfortable now, you know what I'm saying? So I apologize for all the mishaps and stuff. Uh-huh. But at the end of the day, you know, it's still, it's just hard to trust people these days and stuff. You know, she young and you know I'm a little older, so. By her telling me she's loyal and things like that, you know what I'm saying? You don't really know what that is right now. Yeah.

No. So you have paranoia and you have trust issues. And I don't know where they started. But the unfortunate part is, is that two things are at play here. You're ruining your relationship with a young woman who actually loves you because of this paranoia and because of these trust issues. And so what I encourage you to do is not push her away because of these insecurities, because of this paranoia. I encourage you to see her for the woman that she's growing, who she is, and see her that she can be trusted. But secondly, I want you to know the second thing that's at play right now is that she's also a young woman. And you said some things to me that I wrote down. She said, "I know how men are. I'm not expecting anything from a man." See, what you could start doing inadvertently is turning a good girl bad. And as the older man in this relationship, you have to understand that your paranoia, your delusions, not only are gonna hurt y'all, but it could hurt her down the road, which will in fact hurt them kids. And I know I apologize, but here you go. Here you go, love.

Here you go. Ain't gonna get better.

He ain't trying to change that. So I don't know if he's gonna change or not. That's a choice you have to make.

And I'm not expecting that either.

So this is what I mean when you hear what I'm saying. This young woman believing that men are not gonna change. I'm gonna do way better than, you know what I'm saying, that I have, you know, and just, you know, 'Cause the way she talks about you on your phone is very high. She talks about you as if you are a king, as if you are a good man. So what I'm saying to you is don't break her down. Ayonna, you should expect a man to do great things. You should expect him to show up. You should expect him to be honest with you. She's about to be a first-time mother and she needs support. And I can almost assure that there was a point point in your life when you were this age that you didn't get the support you need. And you didn't. I know. And I'm gonna— I want you to look at me real quick, Stephon. I'm sorry, because I can have empathy for your experience as a young man, but that does not give you the right or mean that you have to pass that on to her. Yes, sir. Build each other up. That's right. Listen, I wish y'all both the best of luck, all right? Yes, sir. Yeah, all right, good luck. All right, you're welcome. Thank you.