Stay Sober For Your Son! | KARAMO

So tell me, why is getting the DNA test so important to you?

So I'm trying to get Ty to do child support. I've gave him 3 times to do it. He does not wanna do it. So at this point I had to take him here to do a DNA test when he should have been done the DNA test.

Perfect, makes sense.

'Cause at this point he needs to pay something 'cause $170 is nothing.

And how old is your child again?

5 months. He just turned 5 months.

Oh my gosh. You're in the thick of this. This is like, I mean, anytime you have a child it's always expensive, but.

Oh yes.

Oh, how adorable.

He's a flirt.

Yeah, he's adorable.

Thank you.

But 5 months, I mean, you're going through diapers like crazy.

Yes.

You're going through like things.

Formula, everything's expensive when it comes to babies.

Has Ty made any efforts to be involved in your son's life?

Yes and no. The reason I say yes is because he'll go ghost for 2 weeks, come back and be like, oh, how's my son? Send me pictures. Like, I'm gonna send you pictures so you can post them on Facebook? No.

And what was Ty's reaction to your pregnancy?

So I took 2 pregnancy tests. With my mom and she was like, you have to tell Ty. And I'm like, yeah, I know. And so I text him and was like, hey, we need to talk, it's important. And he's like, what? I'm like, I'm not mad, we need to just sit down and have a conversation. And he was like, you're pregnant? I was like, yes. And then he was like, oh, just take another one tomorrow. So I took 6 pregnancy tests to prove to him I'm pregnant. And so the next day I told him, I'm like, they're not lying, I'm pregnant. And he said, have an abortion. He didn't give me no option like, oh, we can talk about this. He was like, I already have two other kids. I don't want to have a baby with you. And he constantly says it to this day. I didn't want to have a baby with you. But it takes two to have a baby, not just one.

It does. But also, let's be real, the emotional toll that takes on you because you're telling me that there's a history. You were supporting him when he was down.

Yes.

You're clearly intimate because there's feelings there.

Yeah.

He's coming to you because he knows he can count on you, depend on you. And then in the moment when you feel like, You need, you want to depend on him.

Yeah, he wasn't there. Tylen is like the person that will use women when he doesn't have nothing. So he uses women till he can't use them no more or he gets them pregnant and then he's like, I don't want nothing to do with you guys.

Got it, okay. Got it. How did you first find out about Ty's current girlfriend, Liz?

So I was 2 months pregnant, just found out. And I called him, I'm like, "What are you doing?" And he was like, "Oh, I'm with my cousin's girlfriend." And I'm like, "Yeah, okay." So then I let it go. A week later goes by, he's at his apartment. I call him, I'm like, "What are you doing? I hear a female in the background." So I get emotional, I'm like, "Who is that 'cause I'm pregnant?" And he's like, "Oh, that's my cousin's girlfriend." So I get on Facebook and she's like reacting to everything. So I confront her. And it didn't go well. She blocked me and that's how I found out about her. And then he said I couldn't come over no more. To find out she moved in with him.

Got it. And so when y'all were, were you two dating?

No, Tylan does not date females. It's, oh, you're my best friend, but we can have sex every day, but I don't want nothing to do with you.

Okay, so he won't commit?

No, he won't, but he'll use you.

Okay, got it. Well listen, I think it's time to hear from Ty. So everyone please welcome Ty to the show. Hey Ty. Hi. How do you feel about what was just said?

I never said just off the rip, just get an abortion, no.

Yes you did. You told me I can't have no more kids. There's no way I can have a third child.

No, I said, were you sure?

It's because you couldn't take care of your other two, that's why.

Were you sure about having this child?

No, you said get an abortion.

You said you wanted to go to school, right? You told me all these things.

Okay, and what single mother can't go to school and have a kid? A lot of people do it.

I was just making sure if she was sure about having a child.

You weren't worried about me at the end of the day. You were worried about another kid that you can't take care of.

I really was.

That's the problem.

So why do you want this DNA test?

Because I feel like she's really like just trying to keep me. She's trying to find any reason to keep me away from my child.

No, he wanted the DNA test because I asked him for a drug test, so he said, oh, I want a DNA test.

Oh, so she asked you for a drug test, so this is retaliation?

Yeah.

No, actually she brung that up first and then I brung up the DNA test as retaliation.

5 minutes later.

It's like she keeps switching it up. I don't know, it's all right.

You don't wanna take no court fight.

There's always two sides to the story, so it's like she can make me look like this bad person, but really I am a trying dad and I'm still trying to be in my kids' life.

You're not, you're trying on Facebook.

But I need to know, why did you ask for a drug test?

Do you feel like he has an issue with drugs?

Just read that then.

"You do pop perks, not every day, only 1 or 2 days a week 'cause I do it by a little. I don't do a whole perk, so stop it. Good luck on finding it in my system." Okay, and then this one says, "What you got for sale? Pills and weed. I have $25 KDs and $50 8s. Everything for the low." This is you, right?

That's your name right there, right? Yeah, that's your name right there. Or is that a fake account?

That couldn't have been me.

You never take acid, Karamo.

That could be fake.

Come on now, come on.

That could be fake.

All right, well, we have one of your social media posts. I'm gonna do whatever it takes to get y'all back in my life. I don't care if I gotta put my life on the line for y'all. At least I'll die trying to keep supporting myself. Okay, so these are you and your other kids.

Yeah.

And so how you've written that, it sounds like you're having an issue with seeing all of your kids.

Yeah.

Okay, okay.

'Cause he don't help the other one out either and he was trying to make us—

Oh, she said he did and I got receipts on that, so don't worry about it. I'm gonna clear up all this stuff.

Because he wants to be better.

I do the best I can. I can't do it all.

No, you don't do nothing. You don't even help. You don't buy food. Do you even know what your son eats? What type of formula? No, none.

It looks like we have a ping. My producer's telling me the ping is from your other children's mother, Autumn. Okay, what does she have to say?

I'm Ty's other baby mother and he does the same thing to me as he does to Amber. He doesn't do anything for my kids and then tries to act like he's father of the year on social media. When in reality, he is a liar and a deadbeat and I'm sick of it. He's nothing but a Facebook dad.

She's not lying. He'll argue with us all day and not one time ask about, oh, how's my son? How's my son? He will not ask about that.

So do you think you're a deadbeat?

I mean, they can make it that way easy. Just keep—

I asked, do you think?

I don't think I'm a deadbeat 'cause there's people really out here not trying. You're not even doing half the things on there.

Okay, name all the stuff you bought. Name all the stuff you bought.

Stop acting like I ain't spent like $150 on clothes on Temu.

Oh, clothes that don't fit.

I said get 6 to 7 months old stuff and you got winter stuff and summer stuff. I bought my sons a bunch of outfits and everything.

I don't want my son in daddy clothing.

You're not even doing that. Sent it to her crib and everything. They was about to send it back. You bought Gucci and thinking they was gonna fit. I buy diapers and wipes every time she asks. Every time she asks for formula, I'll put on. But then look, it's just one time. It's just one time. Every time is that one time when I say I don't have it. You should say you don't have it. Can you give me till like tomorrow? I'll say, can you give me till like tomorrow? She won't listen. But she talking about something I told her to figure out on her own. I never told her that. I never told her that. I told her, give me till tomorrow, I don't have it right now.

Okay.

And then it's, oh, and then you don't have it.

So let's just clarify. Do you use drugs? Let me ask you, do you use drugs?

No. I'm actually withdrawing right now.

You're withdrawn right now. Yeah, I'm fed up.

And you see why I don't let my son around that, because what if my son's at his house and he gets raided? Not only will he get in trouble, but I will. I'm not losing my son over your dumbass decisions.

Ain't nobody finna raid.

Nor am I gonna let my son be next to you and you're falling asleep like this, or itching. It's embarrassing. I need a break as a single mother. I'm in college for CNA class and I work. I barely have time for myself.

That's why she wasn't able to come to my crib, 'cause I worked a job.

Because Liz was living there.

No, she was not.

Yes, she was.

She was like, "You switch girlfriends like this?" This makes more sense to me, this drug thing. Does it? 'Cause I walked by the back. Your girlfriend was supposed to be here today. And when I was walking out, she's here, but she's passed out.

Yeah, 'cause she's high. She's high.

Okay. What did Amber's mother promise when you had a conversation with her?

This wouldn't happen. Like, it wouldn't be no feud, wouldn't be no like getting in between, like her using my son against me to like get at me. When none of this would be able to happen.

So do you feel like she's using your son against you?

No, I'm not. If he would get off the drugs and stop selling drugs, he could have every part of rights to his son. Get it together.

I think it's time that we meet Amber's mother, Angie, and see what she has to say about this. Angie, come on out, please.

First of all, Tynlyn, you've done one thing, one thing. I asked you, can you buy a bottle? You said, oh, I have $20. That was the last time when I asked you for something.

You don't ask me for much.

I asked you, but you don't do that.

Y'all be telling me y'all got it covered.

Because why would we ask you?

You don't got it. It ain't much I can do. Y'all got it covered.

Mine? Not mine. That's y'all's. I didn't lay down with either one of you to have this baby, but I take care of it. I'm there. I'm there 24/7 with that baby while she's at work, while she's at school.

Where are you? Getting high.

With Liz.

Weed, that's it.

But you're going through withdrawals.

We all know that's a lot.

Weed is helping with withdrawals, that's the reason why.

We all know that's a lot.

No, you do perks, you crush them up and snort them.

And can you scoot that way? Yeah, because you know what? You are 20 what, 27 years old? Time to grow up.

You have 3 kids. You have 3 kids.

3 of them. She's 20.

I'm 20 years old, then you go to school.

And she works at school. She goes to work. She takes care of her son every day.

I don't even have time to study.

I'll never try to take that away, but why not let me see him a couple?

So did you promise to Ty that you would make sure he saw his child?

I did, but you know what? When I found out he was high, I have a conversation with him, he's going, mm-mm. Yes, you was.

No, I wasn't.

Yes, you was at Karamo's house. You was dozing off.

Got it. Yes, you was.

I wasn't dozing off.

I was working at the restaurant.

But I'm not gonna let my grandson.

I'm gonna be tired regardless.

Okay, what do you think?

Do you, in your opinion, um, because I, I hear all the negative, but I also want to see, do you think there's anything he does to try to be a good father?

When he does, sometimes a little.

Okay, what is that?

Like when Amber said, hey, I need a little bit of money, one time he brought it.

How has all this affected Amber from your opinion?

You know, she's sad, she's upset, she's lost a lot of her funk that she used to have, like her Bunk is gone. She's tired all the time because she has a baby, you know, all night long, gets up, goes to school at 6 o'clock in the morning, comes home at 11, studies, still has the baby, and then goes to work.

Got it. So this is, you're tired.

I'm exhausted. It'd be nice for Tylan to be like stepping up and I'd be like, oh, Tylan, you can come pick your son up and have him for the weekend. You know, have something that's going on. But you can't even trust him. 2 hours with your kid.

Got it.

It's sad. As a father, you have 3 boys and you don't take care of none of them. He hasn't seen his other 2 for 2 years, so.

Is that true?

They in another state.

That's not the reason why you don't see your kids.

That is, that is.

You don't even know how it feels to have your 2 sons taken away from you. You don't know how, what you got to apply.

You know how it feels to be a single mother?

I have the DNA truth right here. But I wanna know this. Because she did this for you, Will you take a drug test for her after this?

Yeah.

You will. Okay, good to know. Yes. All right, well listen, it's time for the DNA truth, Amber. Okay. In this envelope is the answers that will help you to understand if this is your child's father and to get the child support you need.

'Cause he needs his own thing.

But he's also saying that this would allow him, if it comes out, to take a drug test.

Well, if he doesn't pass it, he can see his son.

Okay, well, this is your DNA truth to open, not mine.

Okay. True is Tylan's biological son.

Which we all been saying for 5 months.

'Cause at the end of the day, I know who I slept with.

You have your answers, you're able to make your move. Mom, I'm glad that you, unfortunately, this is not your child, but—

It's not, but I'm happy.

Unfortunately, you're doing what a grandmother does who loves their daughter and their grandchild, and you're stepping up, and I appreciate you. You and we respect you so much for that. We respect you so much for what you're doing. I mean, as a young mother to be dealing with this, but also still trying to go to work and school. But you have your answers now. You have your answers.

Yeah, and I hope he can step up as a father, but do I think he's gonna step up? I don't. I hope. I hope.

Well, if y'all could both excuse me, I'm gonna talk to Ty just a second by myself. Now that you have the answers.

Thank you. Good, really is.

Okay. So how you feeling?

I feel like shit.

I see that you are struggling with some addiction and I appreciate you saying you're going through withdrawals. What's your relationship with your family? Huh?

It's really close. Like we have a loving family.

Really loving family.

Yeah.

So where's the addiction and this pain coming from?

I don't know if I already said it. Like, it's really just not being around. I feel like I'm not being enough.

Okay, so this is what I want to encourage you to do. You need to figure out and take some time as a young man to focus on that. Because if you don't, this is going to get worse. Do you have anybody in your life that you can talk to? My mom. So can you talk to your mom about whatever it really is that's affecting you? You sure?

Mm-hmm.

Okay, I wish you the best of luck, all right? All right, friends, stay with us. We'll be right back with more. Hey.

Hey, Mom. Karamo told me to call on a person who I can always lean on to and talk to about anything. So I called you. Just got off the phone with my mother. She just told me she loved me and that means a lot. Just keep me praying for you. Forward along this journey. I know how important it is to have a father in your life, so that's why I take it serious, and I want to be there for my kids, and I don't want to look past that, pass on that.