Stop Calling Me Your Baby Mama, I'm Your Girlfriend! | KARAMO

In this Karamou‑hosted talk‑show segment, Shawntel and Brooklyn, a couple who have been together on and off for six years and share a five‑year‑old daughter, discuss deep relationship problems. Shawntel complains that Brooklyn never calls her his girlfriend, only “baby mama,” and accuses him of disrespect, daily fights, and possible infidelity. She admits to checking his phone in the past and now wants the phone unlocked for definitive answers. Brooklyn defends himself, claiming no cheating and questioning Shawntel’s trust. The host, Karamo, mediates, probes the couple’s history, and eventually brings in an “Unlock the Phone” investigation. The investigation reveals that Brooklyn has been messaging seven women, possesses two explicit photos, and made 17 calls to a specific female in the past nine days—contradicting his denials. Shawntel reacts with anger, hurt, and a resolve to demand respect and self‑love. Karamo offers counseling‑style advice, emphasizing self‑respect, the importance of titles, and the impact on their daughter, urging Shawntel to consider her own well‑being and possibly end the relationship. The segment ends with Shawntel acknowledging the need to love herself and move forward.
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Shawntel and Brooklyn have been together for 6 years and have a 5-year-old daughter, but Shawntel fears Brooklyn is cheating on her. On top of that, she says he refuses to call her his girlfriend and only refers to her as his baby mama. Shawntel wants Brooklyn's phone unlocked. So let's welcome Shawntel to the show so we can hear her side of the story.
Hi.
Hey, Karamo.
How you doing?
May I have a hug? Good, yes. How you doing?
Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you.
I've been waiting to see you.
So my producer tell me that y'all have been fighting a lot in these past couple of days.
Yes, it has been crazy.
It has been? What's been going on?
Pretty much just like him talking to other women.
Got it. How long y'all been together?
We've been off and on about 6 years, 5, 6 years.
6 years. Okay then. And he doesn't refer to you as his girlfriend?
No, baby mama.
That's it?
Yes.
Even when y'all are on? 'Cause I know you said y'all are on.
Even when we're on, yes sir. He feels like that is just like a girlfriend material. To me it's not. Like if I'm your girlfriend, I'm your girlfriend.
I'm your girlfriend, yeah.
We have, he has other kids as well. So I feel like you have two other baby mamas, like no, that's not what we're doing here. I'm your girlfriend.
How often would you say you get into fights?
Almost daily. He disrespects me for sure. You know, he disrespects me and then I feel like I get so mad I can't control it sometimes where I have to disrespect him because I get tired of getting called nothing this, nothing that.
Oh, he calls you nothing?
Yeah, he says I ain't nothing and all this. I call him pathetic and he hates that.
And you have one child together?
We have one kid together. We got pregnant so quick and it's just like it went from there. Like I would say within the first month or so.
Okay, so you didn't have any time to establish a foundation of what this was because you got pregnant?
Yeah, and we tried but it didn't work out. We broke up a couple times and this time it's been about 8 months since we've been back together.
Have there been any cases of infidelity?
I'm not sure. I know how to check the delete on his phone.
You check his phone too?
Yeah. Okay. It hasn't been months. I quit checking it months ago though because I got tired of seeing the same thing.
I love how you whispered that like you had a mic on.
Yeah.
Oh! Talk about, "I check the phone too." Yeah, girl, we all heard you.
You can't tell your secrets, man.
'Cause then he gonna be like, "Uh-oh." Well, everybody, let's hear Brooklyn's side of this story. So everyone please welcome Brooklyn to the show.
I don't know why you out here dry lining, bro.
Hey Brooklyn, thank you for being here. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. How you doing, sir? Nice to meet you. Good, nice to meet you too.
You out here just draw a line, huh?
So how do you feel about everything that was said?
Half of it is really a lot, but the argument and the thing, yes, that's true for the fact that one, the trust went away when you opened my phone and you speak on that saying that I'm cheating on you. How can I, when is the last time I cheated on you?
I didn't say you were cheating on me.
But you said you don't trust me.
I don't because like when I go through your phone—
What do you find?
I always see him like telling other women like, "Let me show you better. Give me the time to show you better." And I'm right here and you don't even show me better.
But that message went through when the whole little argument talk about you telling me to go find somebody that gonna make me happy. One, that's not even funny because if you telling me to go find someone happy and I'm with you, what that tells you?
That's just 'cause he's always—
It doesn't mean you have to make the choice to actually go do that. Right.
Yeah. But action, what doesn't they say? Action speaks louder than words.
Yeah, and your action said that you wanted to go find somebody else.
Yeah.
Because—
And I feel like this is the thing with him. This is the thing with him that I cannot respect. And that's why I say like as a man, I feel like you do talk to a lot of women and stuff like that. And I know, but you also throw in people that I know that you have messed with. When he gets mad, he'll be like, that's why I mess with her and her.
Oh, 'cause my producer told me you messed with her cousin and her sister?
Yeah. Yeah, but that, look, okay, can I clear that up? Look, look, look, look, no, no, no. Can I clear it up? It's like this. All right, like you said, before we found out she was pregnant, like you said, we met, boom, and then we did things, she got pregnant.
I was pregnant with both of 'em, so they knew. All three of 'em knew, and they all three need they little tail butt whooped because at the end of the day, they all knew, you know what I mean?
So when we talked about messing around, did you sleep with her sister?
Tell the truth, shame the devil.
Did you sleep with her sister? Yes.
Yeah.
Did you sleep with her cousin?
No.
You didn't sleep with her cousin? I ain't sleep with her cousin. But no, you just talked?
Not even that, we didn't do nothing. Like literally not even a conversation.
Well, at the end of the day, you brought him here because you want to unlock his phone to see what is really going on. You wanted answers and clarity and you agreed, right?
Yeah.
Well, it's time to unlock the phone. Brooklyn, Brooklyn. We unlocked your phone. Are you ready? Shawntel, you wanna know if Brooklyn has been direct messaging with any other women. Brooklyn says he is not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched his DMs and found that Brooklyn is not telling the truth. He has been messaging with 7 different females from the last 2 months. All right, Shawntel, you wanna know if Brooklyn has any explicit photos on his phone. Brooklyn says he does not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched his photos and found that Brooklyn is not telling the truth. He has 2 photos of his private parts from the last 2 months.
Look.
All right, Shawntel, you wanna know if Brooklyn has been making phone calls to a specific female. Brooklyn says he is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his apps and found that Brooklyn is not telling the truth. He has made 17 calls to this specific female 9 days ago.
Okay, does it say who it is?
It's the person that you were interested in.
Yeah, let me find out because I'm gonna hurt you first of all. I told you to tell me everything before we got up here, correct? Do not play with me, don't. Period.
So that's the person you were questioning?
Yes.
Yeah, so this is him sending you?
Well, that's one of 'em.
So he's sending us?
Well, I have actually seen that one. Like, that is just crazy to me though, that you lie about it and can't ever tell the truth.
Let's go more. These are all the ones.
Oh, can I see that?
Yeah.
It's funny to me 'cause when they ask you for that Cash App, you quit hitting them up. Like still, that's just crazy to me that you do that kind of stuff.
But look, but this is—
I speak Spanish and these messages are in Spanish, so I'm reading Spanish. That's what I'm trying to figure out. That's why I'm like, this is in Spanish as well, so that's why I'm like—
That right there, I don't even know. That could have been her.
I don't speak Spanish.
That's not me, trust me.
That could have been her. I don't even know who that is.
Okay, well you see that there's the tons of the calls. We can keep showing these to you.
Why don't you just be honest? Is it that hard?
Is it hard for you to be honest?
I mean, it's really not. Like the thing is, I be honest with you about everything. That's why I can't respect, that's why I call you pathetic and stuff. True enough, it's not true. But this right here, you got enough balls to talk to them. You don't have enough balls to tell me anything.
Hey, I ain't gotta hear that shit, okay?
Bye. Bye. It don't matter. Like I just don't respect it.
Bye-bye.
I don't care.
So you got your answers. How do you feel about this? I saw that it hurt you and got you upset.
Yeah.
Because it looks like you asked him to tell me if anything's gonna be found. He said no. And then clearly these things are found.
I ask him and he constantly fibbin'. It don't make any sense.
Can I ask you something? Because I wanna repeat something. This is something you said to me a little bit when you first got on the stage. You said it's not that hard to respect somebody you want to be with.
Yeah, it's really not.
So I'm gonna ask you this because you are with yourself. So is it hard to respect yourself?
No, it's really not.
Are you sure?
Yeah.
Because I'm looking at a woman right now that is deciding to continue to be with a man who she has known has cheated on her, who has consistently disrespected you by not even being willing to give you a title. So when you talk about respect, the respect that you want has to start with you.
Yes, it really does. Honestly.
Seriously?
Yeah. I guess I just keep on expecting him to change. And that's what it is, 'cause I'm always riding with him and I expect him to do the same for me.
What's making you emotional right now? I see your eyes watering up.
I just get tired of the lies. I get tired of people lying to me, period. And then especially a man that I love and lay down with, like.
I understand that you are tired of people lying to you. People lying to you. But again, I'm gonna say this out of kindness and love. Everything that happens in the world and the way the world treats us starts with ourselves. So when you're gonna stop lying to yourself? You said you constantly look at him to change. You think he's gonna do better. If in 6 years from the very beginning he's shown you who he is, would you want your daughter in a relationship like this?
I really wouldn't. I would probably go to war finding out if, if she called me and told me her man was treating her like this.
So are you ready to go to war for yourself?
Yes, I am. I love myself enough. Sorry.
And I do believe there's love in there for yourself, but I do believe there needs to be more of a practice of putting that into play in the world. Because until you put that in play, the rest of the world's gonna keep playing you. You hear me?
I like how you put that. Yes, that makes me really look at it a lot different.
Listen, you have your information. I wish you the best of luck.
Thank you.
I know what you deserve and it's not this, okay?
I appreciate that.
All right, good luck to you, okay? Everyone, thank you so much for being with us. Make sure to come back next time, friends, so we can keep talking and growing. I love you all.
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