Stop Gaslighting Me & Move Out! | KARAMO

Karamo mediates between Anthony and Kima, who have a one-year-old son together. Anthony suspects the baby isn't his and accuses Kima of cheating. A DNA test proves he's the father, and a phone investigation finds no evidence of infidelity, but Anthony refuses to accept he's been gaslighting her.
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How long have you and Kima been together?
We've been together for 2 and a half years.
Okay then. And why do you feel like the baby's not yours?
Well, first the baby came out looking Spanish.
Okay.
And if y'all can see me, I'm Black.
Okay.
Listen, she flirts and talks to a lot of—
She flirts and talks to a lot of men?
Yeah.
So you feel like the combination of how the baby looks plus her actions?
Yes.
So the producers say that she flirts with your friends?
Yes.
Okay, so tell me about that.
Okay, so I introduced her, you know what I'm saying? Like when we first started talking, I was hanging out with like 2 dudes or whatever. Like we pulled up to her house, I introduced her to my friends or whatever. You know, she had her little group of friends. We was all, you know, chilling, hanging out. Basically it came from her not knowing them to her looking at one of them in googly eyes, licking her lips. You know how you could tell if you a man, When a female looks at you, you know it's something up.
Mm-hmm, okay. Has Kima cheated before?
I personally, I never caught her cheating before, but I was real close one night. Me and her was arguing, we was talking, and she asked me like, am I coming over during the argument? I'm like, no, I'm not coming over. Meanwhile, I'm already en route coming to her house still, you feel me? That's how you catch 'em, you feel me? But I'm pulling up on the block, I see my bro car. Her friend was messing with my other friend. Like, car pulls up in the block and then a car stops in front of her building. So I'm like, what the heck? Then I see a dude get out. Mind you, it's 3:30, 4 o'clock in the morning. This is, y'all know what type time this is. Like, this is—
Demon time.
Yeah, it's booty. Listen, booty call hours.
Got it.
He turned right, he seen me, and then he sped walked to the building. In my mind, I'm thinking he went inside the crib, like her house or whatever, but— Apparently he didn't, so.
So there is no proof there, but you think that's, you almost caught it, I get it. Who's kitchen boy?
Kitchen boy is him.
That's kitchen boy?
The dude that pulled up, yes.
Got it, and why you call him kitchen boy?
'Cause, okay, a situation earlier before that was when we was at her house, we was all chilling. I'm in her room playing Call of Duty on the system or whatever, and she said she was gonna make my plate. While she's making my plate, he's in the kitchen, you know. She took 20 minutes to make mac and cheese, little baked chicken, and put that on my plate, you feel me? She took so long, I finished a Call of Duty match. So when I got up, I came in the kitchen, I'm like, yo, what are you doing? And seen them in there talking.
Got it, okay.
So then when I come back to the room, we all back in the room now, I'm back playing the game, she's on the side of me.
You know how to cook?
Yes, I know how to cook.
'Cause 20 minutes sound like a decent amount of time to get some mac and cheese.
No, no, see, The food was already made.
You think that she made it talking to Kitchen Boy?
No, no, the food was already made. Oh. The food was made already. All she had to do was just put it on my plate and bring it to me. That's not taking 20 minutes.
Okay, so do you think she's talking, it's only Kitchen Boy she's talking to, or you think she's talking to other people?
I think it's like people around her area too, to be honest.
All right, so what are some of the red flags of your relationship?
We broke up, like we had a little break. When we took a break, it only took her about a day or two to start talking to all her exes.
Oh, how do you know she talked to her exes?
We got back together in December. I went through her phone. She thought she deleted everything, but I'm fake like the FBI.
Yeah.
Like, you feel me? So when I see the call log, it's some, one of her exes that they've been on phone for days in, days out for like 5 hours on the phone.
But y'all are broken up at this point.
Yeah.
So that's not really a red flag if you're broken up and she decides she wants to talk to somebody and communicate. Isn't she free to do so?
No, no, she can't do that.
Okay, so that's not a red flag?
It's not really a red flag, but 2 days? If you claim you love me and all this, 2 days to go write an ex?
Okay. How you doing? How's this making you feel hearing all this?
Upset because he just be extra.
Mm-hmm. In what ways?
Like, so for example, with the thing with his friend in the kitchen, Kitchen boy. Yeah, kitchen boy, as he call him. Kitchen boy. He was in there doing something and I'm telling him, he was about to take, first of all, everybody ate. It's a house full of people, you know? So it was only a little bit of macaroni and cheese left. He was about to take it and I'm like, yo, did, you know, did or whatever. He like, oh, that's how, you know, we start talking. I'm like, all right, move. Like I started making a plate. Then he's talking about, oh, you in there talking to him for mad long, you looking at this person. But that ain't true.
So you believe your child is his?
Yes, I do.
Okay.
I know my child is his.
Okay.
And then you wanna bring up this when we was on a break thing. What was you doing?
Oh my God.
Yeah, what was you doing? You done had threesomes, you done slept with your baby mother. What was you doing?
Hold on, so when you were on the break, you had a threesome?
Yeah.
So when y'all broke up, you had a threesome. Right.
But you wanna be talking about, and all you seen was me having conversations with people.
The difference in that, but the difference in that, she took 2 days and all that to write the next man and all that. That ain't happen for another 3 weeks, 4 weeks.
So it took her 2 days to talk about it, but it took you 3 weeks to have a threesome?
Writing the next man, this, that, and the third. You know what I'm saying?
I'll be out there. He had a threesome with two different people that slept with his baby mother.
Did you also sleep with your baby mother during the break?
Yeah, that was—
Yeah, that was why.
That's the complication still making it look—
So what is your version of when the friend was trying to come over that night?
Oh, she claims she don't know who that was.
We was arguing, he said he wasn't coming over. I was already pregnant. I went to sleep. When I woke up, I woke up to him flashing his, flashlight on the phone in my face. And he started packing his stuff. But we already been arguing so much that when I saw him packing his stuff, like sneak packing his stuff, 'cause this is what he do, he be like, "Oh, my stuff is there." And then next thing you know, he act like he taking out the garbage and throw his stuff outside in the hallway. And then next thing you know, all his stuff is gone. So I got up and I started helping him, not knowing what the problem was, but I started helping him pack his stuff.
Why do you sneak pack? Because if I pack regularly, she gonna try to take an item and do all that little weird, you know what I'm saying?
Okay, so how many times have you tried to sneak pack and get outta this relationship? 'Cause how long y'all been together again?
2 and a half years.
2 and a half years, okay. And how many times you trying to sneak pack?
I mean, it's a few times, but I don't never really get all my items, to be honest.
Okay, okay. Have you ever cheated on him, just to be clear?
No. Ever?
Never. Mm-hmm. So what is he paranoid about then?
I don't know, this is the thing, right? I never cheated on him, but when we first got together, his BM was sending him nudes talking about he love her, love him. Then he had people calling him from private phone calls all the time and he's telling me it was his cousin. Come to find out it was a baby mother, another baby mother.
Was it true that you were getting nudes from your children's mothers?
It was bra and panties, I guess, but.
Okay, so you did get explicit photos from women?
Yeah, but it's not like I'm sleeping next to her, we waking up to the same thing. I'm waking up to the stuff she's waking up to.
So why you don't tell her that you have a girlfriend and that's unacceptable? He like, oh, that's how she is.
That's just how she is.
You got Keema's name tattooed on your neck?
Yeah.
When did you get that?
That had to have been, A few months ago.
A few months ago. And what was that a declaration of? Why did you get that?
So I mean, I really do love her, like, you feel me? I care about her.
Mm-hmm.
I just gotta know the truth, like, for me.
Well, what was the declaration when you got that for her? What were you trying to show her?
That I really care about her.
Uh-huh, that you love her by getting her name tattooed on you. How did that make you feel when you did that?
Rather what?
I don't know, 'cause I had it first and I had it already for like a year before.
Got it, okay.
You know?
Yeah.
So it was like—
I'm not judging, by the way. When I was 24, I got somebody's name tattooed right here. We not together no more. But I've been there before. I just was wondering what declaration you were trying to make because there seems like there's a lot of paranoia that's going on right now.
It's not paranoia.
You don't think so?
Nah, it's just—
Okay, I mean, we haven't unlocked the phones. We're here for a DNA test and we're also here to unlock your phone. So do you feel like y'all are a happy family?
I feel like we could be better. Uh-huh. A lot better.
Yeah.
But when we good, we good. It's when—
But when you're bad, you're bad.
Yeah, basically.
And how often are you bad?
When he start accusing me of stuff, like.
Okay then. So because this is a big accusation, you're telling her that the child that you all are raising, I know you're pregnant right now, so congratulations. But the child that you have, how old is your child?
One.
One. So the child that you all raised, you're claiming that it's not yours because you think that it looks Spanish?
First of all, he don't even look like that no more. That's when he first was born. You know how some kids when you first have them, they light and then they get dark?
Yeah, the pigment, yeah.
And I keep telling him that. My baby is brown skin.
Okay, so you came here to find out if you are Bless' father by taking a DNA test, right?
Mm-hmm.
Well listen, there's no better time than to find out. So in this envelope is the DNA proof to show if Bless is your son. Is your child.
Yeah.
Correct?
Yes.
Let's figure it out. Here you go.
Thank you. You ready?
Is you ready? Ooh.
What?
Relax, relax.
What does it say?
What does it say? What does it say?
It says—
What does it say?
You got a big smile.
Exactly.
Exactly. It says, "He blesses your biological son." Exactly.
So she's your biological, that's your biological child, right? So you not know her? That's just so annoying.
'Cause he look like that, he's not Puerto Rican looking. He do not look Puerto Rican.
So you still, now getting that, are you still having accusations about the child that she has right now? Do you still feel like maybe there's a chance that that cannot be your child?
Yes.
You feel like that 'cause you done did something. Let's really be real, like multiple females called me and told me they slept with you and you know that.
My bad.
Multiple females called and said they slept with you?
Yes, he got his sister friend said she was pregnant by him. When we was on the break, some girl wrote me and was like, I wanna know how long you been messing with my man.
That's a girl I was talking to.
Then when I told her I was pregnant, she told me she was pregnant.
Is that true?
Yeah, but none of these girls talk about it.
Then his baby mothers done made a chat talking about they slept with him, he be having them in the air like Michael Jordan, all types of stuff.
In the air like Michael Jordan go crazy to me.
Listen, listen, that's them just trying to be devilish and trying to get me out of a relationship.
And you know what he do? He smile and be like, you hang up, hang up. You not saying that they ain't sleeping with you. You not saying nothing. It's about how I feel though when they saying this.
Have you acknowledged your feelings? I still didn't get no background check on the proof of her.
Okay, well we unlocked the phone. That wasn't the only results we wanted. All right, we went through Kima's texts, her apps, and her GPS.
Mind you this. What happened? This a new phone, I'm gonna give you a but.
Oh, so now you're giving a caveat?
This it? I mean, this is a new phone. She just had this relationship with a boy.
He should've went through his phone. He done was texting the girl, good morning for his friend. You probably would've seen something in there.
Well listen, we're not gonna do the caveat because that then it starts, We'll talk about that in a little bit. But listen, Anthony, you want to know if Kima was texting your friend. Kima says she is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched through all of her texts and she's telling the truth. We found zero suspicious texts.
She has two phones. Sometimes I—
You want to know if Kima was messaging people on social media. Thank you, Kima says she's not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her apps And she's telling the truth. She's not doing anything. Anthony, you want to know Kima's recent location. So my unlock the phone investigators searched her GPS and found there were 47 screenshots in her GPS, but those are of your locations.
Oh. Okay, we sharing locations.
Well, the reason that I'm bringing that up, we can bring it. You can let me see this envelope, please. The 47, please. Thank you. The reason that this is important is because they're saved in her phone. What I thought was interesting about this, and I had them cross-reference, it says always places that you are when you're out somewhere. And so this entire time I'm listening here, you can have it. These are all the locations you're at.
I know where I've been at.
Well, you know where you've been at. Well, we know now where you've been at. She knows where you've been at. And the thing is, is that you've been spending all your time accusing her, calling her these things, Paranoia is what you're experiencing, but it's unfair to her. This woman is not doing anything. This paranoia, but also that's mixed with this gaslighting that you have here, is that there's never gonna be anything that you can do to ever prove to him that you're not cheating. There's never gonna be anything that you can do. He's always gonna accuse you of cheating. If you have another child with this man, he's gonna probably say that this child's not his. He's always gonna accuse you. And all that time, with the behavior he's shown in the past, and with the fact that he's not willing to own it right now, is that he's probably gonna continue this behavior. And so as a woman, you have to make sure that you understand how to protect yourself and protect your children. And if you have a woman in your house, which you are, that is, that is, you're aware. I mean, at this point, he's broken down your self-esteem where you believe this is healthy behavior. And that's the sad part is, part to me of all of this is he knows that. He knows that he's got you in a place where he knows that you'll stay in this cycle with him, you'll do these things with him. And you're pregnant, so I'm not gonna be delusional and think that you're gonna leave him. But what I do want you to know is that you do have better choices and you do deserve to have someone who's not gonna do these things to you. I wish you the best and I wish you a healthy pregnancy. And I also wish that you will stop being paranoid and stop gaslighting your woman.
I'm not paranoid. You don't even understand, I grew up in there. Whatever.
I don't understand? You don't have a single fact that you've proven to me. Again, I'm not going on feelings.
What proof? What do you want me to prove to you?
What?
What you want? I haven't said anything.
We all adults, we know what proof is. So listen, wish you the best of luck. Thank you so much for being with us. Want more unlocked phones? DNA reveals and family drama? Then make sure you're subscribed to the Karamo Show YouTube.
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