Stop Playing With Me, You're My Baby Daddy! | KARAMO

So your boyfriend Noel has doubts about your baby.

I'm not gonna keep playing with him. He need to get it together because I told him I made the baby, you made the baby, you gonna step up and he need to get it together.

You're 21 years old, this is your first child?

Yes.

This is your first child?

Yes.

How has it been?

It's a journey, oh my gosh.

I can imagine.

She's a handful.

So does Noel contribute financially?

That boy is broke, okay? I be trying to help him out, get a job. He need to get it together, step up, but he wanna go skating and some other shit.

Okay. And how old is he?

22.

Okay, so y'all both babies. I understand why he wanna skate, but also if he got a child, I understand he need to step it up.

Yes.

I get it, I get it, I get it. So how would you describe your relationship with Noel?

On a deeper level, I love him. He's the one for me. That's the one I wanna build a future with.

Okay.

On a practical level, it's toxic, it's on and off. I'm not finna keep doing it. He need to stop. He need to get a job. Otherwise I'm gonna leave him 'cause I'm tired of it.

So you're leaning more towards your practical side?

I'm leaning more towards my deeper side. Don't get it wrong.

Yeah, okay, okay, okay. Do you two live together?

Yes.

How long have you lived together?

Forever.

Forever. And so does he live with you or do you live with him? Do you have a place together?

He live with me.

Okay, he lives with you. Okay then. And my producers told me that Noel once ghosted you for 11 hours. Explain what happened.

Oh my gosh. So he wanna go, we went to church together, right? Y'all tell me why this man decided that he was gonna go out and skate with some bitch in Dallas. Not answer the calls, text, none of that. Blocked my best friend's number as well after I text him off of her.

So was he being romantic with this girl or was it just like, I'm skating? But either way—

He said he was just skating, but I don't like bitches no way. Mm-mm.

Mm, hold on, so what made you insecure about that? Did he have a history of cheating?

Yeah.

Okay, so that makes sense.

Texting sexually, but I cheated on him first, honestly, 'cause I was in high school.

When you were in high school?

Yeah.

Okay.

I was a kid, so what?

Did he forgive you?

Yes.

Yeah, he forgave you?

Yes.

And so then if he was texting sexually, I guess you couldn't forgive him 'cause he continued on?

Yeah, I forgave him, but he keeps doing it and I'm gonna slap the shit outta him.

Okay. Okay. How often do you and Noel break up? 'Cause I feel like y'all probably go back and forth.

It's on and off, y'all. I'm so sick of it, but I love this man. That's why I'm not going nowhere.

Uh-huh. There's like a 20-year-old, 21-year-old in there, and then there's also like this, I don't know what other age. Y'all see the two different personalities? Y'all see 'em both? Okay. So is there a possibility, and I gotta ask this, that someone else could be your daughter's father?

Whew, yes, y'all, oh my gosh.

There is a possibility.

So embarrassing, but yes, there is a possibility. 'Cause in that timeline, you know, I was with someone else when he was with someone else and we were broken up at the time part.

So this is the timeline. So August, you and Noel were together. September 5th, you slept with a mystery man.

Yeah.

September 7th, you slept with Noel.

Yep.

September 4th, slept with him, slept with the mystery man. So you were going in between these two guys. Mm-hmm. Okay then.

Yeah, I was a hoe. Shut up. Don't do it.

I don't know if I wanna label you a hoe. I mean, you're a young woman, you're deciding what you wanna do. You're learning yourself sexually. I mean, you get permission to do that. You know what I mean? And it sounds for me that because you're very upfront, it sounds like you were being very honest with them.

Oh, I am.

See, so like, I mean, if you're being upfront and you're young, you get to do with your body what you wanna do with your body.

Thank you.

Yeah, so we're not gonna label you a hoe right now. We're not gonna label you a hoe. Because also, and also the reason I'm not gonna label you a hoe and I don't want you labeling yourself a hoe is because you have a daughter now. And I want you to make sure that you're understanding how to call, what you call yourself and what you will allow to be called.

In the past I was a hoe.

Okay. Okay. Yeah, but now.

Now I'm a mother.

Good.

And I got my shit together.

Good, okay.

He needs to get his shit together.

Good. So we see this timeline. So does the other mystery man know that he could potentially be the father?

Yeah, he could potentially be the father.

And why don't you want him?

That man wants to do polygamy with me. I don't even like that.

What's polygamy?

He wants 2 other women plus me.

Oh, oh, got it. Got it, okay.

I don't share nothing. Nothing.

Okay.

What's mine is mine. I'm not sharing you.

So you're not into polygamous relationships?

Uh-uh, you need to stop that.

Okay then, I understand.

Shut that down right now.

I understand that. Okay then. Does Noel know about this timeline?

Yes.

And so was Noel around for your pregnancy?

No, this man was locked up.

Oh, he was locked up?

Yes.

So what do you want the DNA results to be?

Believe it or not, I want it to be Noel. And don't say ooh, 'cause I don't care. I love him, that's who I wanna spend the rest of my life with. Get over it.

Well, I think it's time to hear Noel's side of this story. So everyone please welcome Noel to the show. Hey Noel, how you doing? How you doing? Karamo. Nice to meet you. So how do you feel about what you just heard?

It's the truth.

It's the truth.

The reason why I'm having struggle even finding a job is because I still gotta get my ID because I was stupid by giving my ID to a phone company. Me not having a job, okay, it's my fault.

Yeah.

Okay, that's not an excuse. You need to get it together. You need to step up.

But at the, you don't get it.

No, you need to step up. That's what you need to do.

Oh, I'm gonna step up, just so you know that.

Eventually? When? Let me know.

Today.

Oh, okay. It better be today.

Man, 'cause guess what? At the end of the day, you gotta understand the things that you do and the things that you say to me ain't even really about a lot of things.

Okay, you do the same thing to me. When you wanna come at me like that? Really?

Yeah.

You wanna come at me like that? Okay, that's fine.

I'm not even trying to come at you sideways, but it's not even all me because guess what? Who was the one that decided to come back to you after you cheated on me the first time and I gave you a second chance? And I had a job at the time, you didn't have nothing. When we first got together, you didn't have a car, you didn't have an apartment. We lived with our parents, right?

Okay, yeah, we did, we did. But now I'm on my shit, okay? So don't come for me.

Well, you might be on your shit at the same time you leaving jobs.

And I'm still taking care of you.

You constantly.

No, but you still leaving jobs though, right?

Okay, I need it back. I need some more money. Don't be coming at me like that.

Of course everybody needs more money.

I need more, making more money.

And to be honest with you, I have a job, but it's more like a side hustle.

We need to get a permanent job.

But guess what? The money that I make with that is always spending on her or her daughter.

So he is supporting you?

Sometimes, sometimes he support me.

I'm doing the best I can.

But he need to get an actual job because I've been paying everything by myself and I mean everything.

So you all are living together?

Yes.

And how do you feel about the relationship?

So it's an on and off. It's more like when we argue, it's something about something small. I get the fact that you want me home, but it's just, I didn't have a childhood. My childhood was more like I was in juvie for 2 years and it just sucked because like me being 15 years old, getting in trouble. Me being around the wrong crowds.

Yeah.

Me still feeling like a child inside, even though I'm a grown-ass man, and I do need to get my shit together. I'mma man up to that. But at the same time, she gots to understand, whenever she was a hoe in high school.

Don't be shocked you called yourself that.

And you even said it before I came out.

We had a lesson, don't be shocked. Don't act surprised. Tell me, tell me.

At the same time, I just, I love her to death, don't get me wrong. Because I'm the one that changed her to make her the way she is today.

Okay.

Regardless if she cheated on me at the very, very beginning, I've been trying to make with her since day one.

Okay, so I'm gonna teach you some man-to-man, and this is a way so that you don't start picking up toxic habits. When you're able to support support a woman you love, you didn't make her, you were supporting her. And that's what it was.

That part, that part.

So I don't want you to ever use language about I made her the woman she is because you should be honored for the support you gave her, especially if y'all were growing together. But when you grow up and you start thinking I made a woman that way, it can become toxic. It's just a little less man-to-man.

He did change me, y'all.

Yeah, y'all supported each other in growth. Just like right now, even though it gets misguided sometimes, you're trying to tell him I need you to step up and be better with the children. Good job. I get it, I hear it. So you say Nyla keeps you on house arrest? Explain.

It feels like it because she treats me like she's my mom. Like I can't go nowhere. Even if I were to ask her somewhere, she'd be like, nah, you have to stay home. You have to do this and do that. And I literally, I'm a clean freak.

Yeah.

Okay, well that's priorities. First of all, you have priorities.

That's priorities? You ain't clean yourself half the time.

Hey, don't be coming for me 'cause I do clean. I do clean.

Oh, so you clean your panties, right?

Boy, I will slap the shit outta you. Do not play with me.

Okay, so this is what we gonna do. We gonna go ahead and find out whose child this is.

That's my best friend.

Do her. No, 'cause if your best friend gonna do some same you was just doing, I don't wanna talk to your best friend because lemme tell you what the problem is for me is that there's a child here and the thing is you got this character that's going on where one moment I see a mother that's actually drowning and trying to figure out as a young mother and the next minute I see this caricature of yourself and I don't know which one to trust. So though they're here for entertainment, I'm here for you. And so if I can't get a read on your personality, this doesn't help me. I'm getting a read on your personality. You've come from a home and a broken life where you don't understand what's going on. You're trying, you're also young, you're misguided, but at the end of the day, you want a relationship, you wanna be better. I see it. I can get a read on you. Look at me. You're a mother now. And so all of this games, you can play it all you want right now, but all of this is not gonna help you be better. And that's just the reality of it. That's the reality of it. Somebody else might find this amusing. I don't. I don't. Because at the end of the day, and I can tell you're intelligent. I've heard some of the things you said. There's an intelligence in there. I also know there's hardworking because I hear you saying, "I'm trying to work and still raise the baby." So you have all these amazing qualities that for some reason you're trying to overshadow with this behavior. And I don't know why. Let's get to this so that we can help you to figure out where you're at in your life. Because at the end of the day, you showed me a timeline and again, I gave you grace. You're allowed to do what you want with your body, but you also need to have answers because right now you're not clear who the father of your child is.

No, I'm not.

And that's an issue. So here we go. We got the DNA truth right here. Are you ready for this? That's your baby. Okay. This is your truth right here. You ready? 'Cause you're the one in the question.

Yes, sir.

This is your truth to open, not mine.

Nyla, I wanna say something real quick. If I find out she's not mine, I still wanna stay with you, but at the same time, you gotta change your attitude.

Well, let's figure out if this is your child or not.

So, Alaysia is not your biological daughter.

Okay, you knew this. You're hurt. It hurt, I know. So again, like I said before, we can play all the games and do all this, but you two are two young people and this is real for both of y'all. I know you're hurt. I know you're hurt. And I know you're hurt too. What's going on in your head? What's going on in your head? So the other gentleman that you know, that it sounds like because of whatever it was, you don't want him to be the father. Yeah. Noel, you said before that if these results came back that you weren't the father, you'd still be there.

I wanna be, but she gotta change that shit, bro. She gotta change her ways. And I'm gonna change my ways as well. Like I need to.

I hear you. Let me tell you what the beauty of this situation is, and I appreciate this. I appreciate both of you being silent and present in this moment and understanding there's something greater. But also he's saying that he'll still be here for you. He's saying he'll be there for you and your daughter. Do you want to hold him? Do you want to talk to him?

I just need to be left alone right now. I need to think.

I get it. I understand. I know this is hard right now, but I promise you it will work out. But I think the biggest lesson here that y'all have learned is that life is coming at y'all real and fast. And sometimes with some things to change. All right? Okay? Come here. I'm sorry. Yeah, here you go. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I know that hurt.

It just—

I know. I know. I know.

I don't even know what to say right now.

I know. I know. It hurt.

Like, she put me through so much and I still I still wanted to be on her side.

Yeah, but this is why I wanna talk to you. I appreciate you wanting to step up as a young man and say I can be there, but this relationship is toxic. And if you wanna support her, it's okay to support her as a friend, but you don't have to get yourself intertwined and you have an opportunity to grow. Of course. So if you wanna be there to support her as a friend, I think that's very noble. But I think this is a good way for you, Star, those emotional attachments you have, start to realize it's time for those bonds to break.

For me to find out she's not even mine, it's like, bruh. But at the same time, honestly, I'm actually glad that she, I'm not happy that she's not, but I'm glad that I don't have a kid because at the same time I can grow.

You're not ready. You're not ready.

I'm not.

You're not ready.

I am ready to be a dad, but I'm not ready at this moment.

Exactly, exactly. I'm glad that it's starting to click now. So make right decisions in this. Don't keep yourself trapped in something. Make smart decisions and do the work to keep growing, okay? I wish you the best of luck, seriously, all right, man? Wish you the best of luck, all right? It's gonna work out.